The moonlighter's are basically 1915 Perfection Kerosene Heaters because they don't have the catalytic converter of the more modern Japanese (Chinese) heaters.

Lamp oil can be either a Kerosene derivative or liquid Paraffin. Paraffin turns solid at lower temperatures and is too thick for good capillary action. They are meant for Kerosene. You would not run your gas car on an alternative fuel, would you? (And I do understand that Ethanol fuel is used but at a risk of water absorption and reduced "gas" mileage due to Ethanol having less energy than gasoline per gallon.)

Are they still selling new wicks?

@@scotth9828 yes the 331-x is made by a few companies the best is the Amish made wick they still have the old machine Perfection used i think and they make about all the parts and new stoves in berne Indiana

There is a difference between the "Tall Blue" chimney burners and the Hi-Power burners. Same wick but 30% more heat from a Hi-Power burner. Also the Hi-Power chimneys flow better too so they contribute to a higher heat output.

@@greghall_The_TechEditor They use the same wick is there that much difference? Maybe there is I've never tested. The Chimneys however the different I've noticed is the width on the perfection Chimneys are fatboys and the ivanhoes I've seen are short skinny and tall Chimneys all sizes. Well it all started for me with a 750G Perfection heater and I loved it.I then found a Ivanhoe Stove that I restored with a new top grates and Chimneys .Your videos helped me restore it and learn about these wonderful stoves .I take my two burner ivanhoe camping and I have bought extra heater flame spreaders off of ebay to turn it into a emergency heater. Perfection products from the old days are the best because you can clean the wicks in seconds before every use. Thanks again for your help

@@kidglove100 The big difference is how the air is directed between the tall blue chimney burners and the Hi-Power burners. More air = better and hotter burn.

I am not aware that anybody had ever tried it before. I was curious.

@@greghall_The_TechEditor does the yellow flame not produce more co ?

@@d.m.3259 I never tested that. Might be an interesting science project!

IMO: Alcohol is too volatile.

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Shetler's Wholesale 630 High St, Geneva, IN 46740 (260) 368-1473 or direct from the manufacturer at Schwartz Manufacturing 1261 W 200 S, Berne, IN 46711

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@@greghall_The_TechEditor Still cannot find them on a search of Shelter's products online.

@@v.j.l.4073 Looks like they have dropped them. Most likely due to the Wuhan virus. Demand dropped. Lehman's still carries the 2, 3, and 5 burner here: www.lehmans.com/search?w=kerosene+stove&queryAssumption=correction. You can also order direct from the factory at Schwartz Mfg., LLC 1261 W - 200 S Berne, Ind. 46711. Amish concern so no internet. I did a video at their plant a few years back, here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apqmYK6Sns-5hac.html

Use the Shetler's Wholesale link above for their catalog where you can purchase most of the Schwartz replacement parts. Otherwise write the factory in Berne, Indiana. 1261 W 200 S Berne, IN, 46711-9779.

Parts are available from Shetler's Wholesale by either using the link above to order a catalog or their Facebook page facebook.com/pages/category/Discount-Store/Shetlers-Wholesale-469827576528577/ or call them at (260) 368-9900. Or you can call the factory in Berne, Ind. Schwartz Mfg at (260) 589-3865. Being Amish, their phone is down the road in a phone booth with an answering machine. They will get back to you. Or you can write them at 1261 W 200 S Berne, IN 46711

On start-up, there is some. Burning at temperature, almost none. Most is masked by whatever you are cooking. And again there is some during shutdown. ANd finally with the stove off and if the wicks are left wet, there is a slight Kerosene odor if standing right next to the stove. After a while, you don't even notice it.

Being more viscous than Kerosene, it will not "wick" upwards into the wick as well as kerosene, resulting in a lower flame output. Also it hardens at low temperatures. Generally any flat wick lamp with a wick wider than 3/4", liquid paraffin is not recommended. That being said, the stove wicks are far larger than that, so..........

@@greghall_The_TechEditor good to know and thanks for the reply.

In Europe yes, in the USA no. Let me explain, in Europe kerosene is known as paraffin. They are the same thing there. In the US paraffin is actually a liquid wax and is absolutely not recommended for use in heaters or lamps.

They must have shut down the site. Try this one. facebook.com/pages/category/Discount-Store/Shetlers-Wholesale-469827576528577/ or call them at (260) 368-9900. That one works, I just tested it.

I don't have a website, nor do I sell. I just collect, restore and use.

Ebay has a lot of Perfection stoves and heaters for sale and parts

Really

Two choices, restore an old one or purchase a new Schwartz stove from Lehman's, in Kidron, Ohio, here: www.lehmans.com/product/perfection-kerosene-cookstove-two-burner?shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiAnO2MBhApEiwA8q0HYdUPyrYzQTQEETmauD0JVUKJFZEJbip7p4SpfFlCx64705dOvM7vOxoCcEAQAvD_BwE#

@@greghall_The_TechEditor morning Greg, its morning in UK. I've looked at the Lehman's one, i need a table top one preferably. I'm struggling all one week looking over online everywhere. You did a video on a butterfly single stove heavy duty aluminium one, but i can't buy one anywhere for delivery to UK. I really sad and panicking.

@@rosemensah5959 Rose, I never did a review on a Butterfly stove. As to a tabletop Schwartz Perfection 2-burneer stove, they are hard to find but Shetler's Wholesale used to catalog them, # 620-WQ. You can contact them thru their Facebook page here: facebook.com/pages/category/Discount-Store/Shetlers-Wholesale-469827576528577/. If that doesn't work out, contact Elmer Schwartz directly at the factory: Schwartz Manufacturing Inc 1261 W 200 S Berne, IN 46711 (260) 589-3865 Be aware that because Elmer is Amish, their phone is down on the corner in a phone booth with a recorder taking messages. That is how I contact Elmer.

@@greghall_The_TechEditor I've ended up buying an Alpaca brand now, for my prepping. Thanks all the same

I personally have never heard of operating a Perfection Stove on Diesel. People have asked me if you can operate a kerosene heater on diesel and I have always said, it burns dirtier and you are burning fuel injector lubricant. I prefer clean burning Kerosene!

Just tried it and it works???

Not sure what happened to Shetlers website. They were primarily a catalog Amish store. But the catalog request is still hot. See here: shetlerswholesale.wixsite.com/catalogrequest

​@@greghall_The_TechEditor that link is dead on my end sadly

Apparently their online presents is gone. See their address and phone number above to contact them.

Thank you for the info By the way I just recently found an Aspen Thermoelectric downdraft fan in perfect condition with the case for 100 Canadian Ever since watching your vid and discovering that device I have been wanting one. They are hard ti find but I now have one and will b using Thanks again

Congratulations! That is $500 less than you can currently find one, even if you COULD find one!

Those stoves are designed for Coleman White Gas or unleaded gasoline. Kerosene is thicker and harder to get lit. If it did run, it may well smoke or burn poorely. But I am no expert of the Coleman dual fuel stoves.

If you search hard, there is a video on KZfaq of somebody getting a Coleman to run on kerosene, it ran well, but they had a hard time getting it started.

@@johnwyman6126 Coleman Fuel (White Gas) is far more volatile than Kerosene, so it lights easier. Downside is it goes bad much faster than Kerosene.

@@greghall_The_TechEditor agreed.

You have to preheat the fuel pipe go get the kerosense to pressureize properly i have personally used alit 425 by kerosene dad had it figured out

I just tried Shetler's website and it worked??

@@greghall_The_TechEditor when I click on "visit official site" it then says Looks like this domain isn't connected to a website yet.

It is possible they never set up their website. It took them years to just get the catalog request site, being an Amish concern.

I NEVER use Diesel! I do not care to burn fuel injector lubricant. Kerosene can turn from clear with exposure to heat and light. My jug sits in the Kitchen on the stove jug mount and it slowly turns color. Still burns the same. I don't get scammed when it comes to Kerosene or Kerosene devices. My Kerosene has been verified by Jefferson County, NY. Weights & Measures as Canadian #1 Stove Oil imported by Valero. The locked pump can't say K1 Clear Kerosene because it is not! It is #1 Canadian Stove oil with only 15 ppm of Sulfur. That is why the pump states " Un-Dyed, Un-Taxed, Clear Kerosene"