Episode 3 - “Long, Long Time” | The Last of Us Podcast

Episode 3 - “Long, Long Time” | The Last of Us Podcast | Max

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Host Troy Baker and Showrunners Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann talk about the departure the series took into the story of Bill and Frank. Craig and Neil also reveal the thinking behind casting Nick Offerman and Murray Bartlett to portray this middle-aged love and reveal an easter egg reference to the game that shows up at the end of the episode. HBO’s The Last of Us podcast is produced by HBO and Pineapple Street Studios.
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@alexlazzerly3677 Жыл бұрын

Casting Nick Offerman who is known for being super manly and masculine as Bill was a stroke of genius. Especially after we get to see the more vulnerable and intimate sides to him in this episode. He was perfect in the role.

@PeriodDrama Жыл бұрын

Is he known for being super manly and masculine?

@malmaller2375 Жыл бұрын

@@PeriodDrama Have you never heard of Nick Offerman before?

@trib22 Жыл бұрын

Manly and masculine, for sure. But also well known for being a profoundly thoughtful, progressive, considered man whose masculinity doesn't get in the way of his humanity. As someone around the same age as Nick, I aspire to his human excellence in all things. He is an ideal casting for Bill, and not just on the way he looks.

@PeriodDrama Жыл бұрын

@@malmaller2375 Ive only seen him in Devs and he wasn’t very masculine in that, I don’t watch the US version of the office, I think it sucks.

@BrokenNoah Жыл бұрын

@@PeriodDrama He was in Parks and Rec, not The Office

@MrCaoilan Жыл бұрын

These guys just continue to prove that they know how to expand upon the story and not ruin the source material. Bravo guys.

@pickledparsleyparty Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's fun that there are major differences between the two. It makes it fun both to watch the show and to play the game.

@Evilshtt353 Жыл бұрын

Well Neil is heavily involved so of course that'd be the case.

@harrydubois6619 Жыл бұрын

I will never understand people who think the last of us 2 was good

@mattewmock9366 Жыл бұрын

I will never understand people who don't life it. See it works both ways. People need to get over it. If you don't like that's fine, just stop bringing it up.

@Wolfsburge Жыл бұрын

Sincerely.. I was so worried about this show .. but this just proves that games can be on the screen besides cutscenes.

@Pradatiz Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable that many people still don’t believe that bill was indeed gay within the game. Bill referring to Frank as his “partner”, as well as Ellie commenting on the male pornography she found, both allude to this conclusion. “Why are all the pages stuck together ?”

@str8upndown856 Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t an automatic thought for me to be honest.. cause a ‘partner’ could have been somebody he was just surviving with and the magazine could have just been a random in a pile. I didn’t automatically assume.. but I guess this is confirmation

@Joeah89 Жыл бұрын

@@str8upndown856 I’m pretty sure that’s why they made Bill pause or hesitate when he says “partner” but Ellie holding up the gay magazine probably should have made it more obvious, haha.

@deadfisher0000 Жыл бұрын

They don't want to believe, because it's uncomfortable. Uncomfortable to admit that the people who made this work of art they love are people who support and support gay/trans rights. I'm glad we have such brilliant creators championing stories like this.

@boomshine87 Жыл бұрын

Bill was not originally written as gay, but the mocap actor made illusions and suggestions to that nature. They then changed the line from "bye bye ladies!" to "bye bye dudes!" when Ellie threw the magazine out the window.

@MatiZ815 Жыл бұрын

@@boomshine87 The actor had the impression that Bill is gay so he asked Neil about it. To which Neil asked him "What do you think?" and he answered that he thinks he's gay and they ran with it.

@xikaryo6735 Жыл бұрын

Nick Offerman absolutely killed it. My wife was crying like a kid during the strawberry scene. It’s impressive how little action there was in that episode and the hour flew by faster than the previous two episodes for me. Just another perfect example of how masterful storytelling can really elevate a show more than action could, and I say that as an action fanboy who has Mad Max: Fury Road, The Raid 1 + 2, and the John Wick trilogy as his favorite movies in the last 10 years lol. Brilliant, brilliant episode. I recognized the other guy from White Lotus, who did great too, but Nick Offerman really deserves an Emmy here or something. 👍

@ShonuffDaMasta Жыл бұрын

Sir I just wanted to say you have great taste in action movies. P.S. I’ll throw you a ladder if you fall in my hole.

@ashleyhoughton8592 Жыл бұрын

"Not on the strawberries"

@megalodonenthusiasts3991 Жыл бұрын

Rest in peace Annie Wersching, my condolences to her friends and family. Another brilliant and beautiful episode. I can't wait for season 2.

@lawbinson Жыл бұрын

This is crazy… Rest in peace

@liamstanley5599 Жыл бұрын

RIP

@Shaun72 Жыл бұрын

Episode 2 hurts a lot more now. 😔💔

@Oregonduck09 Жыл бұрын

Let's finish this season. Why are you all so obsessed with getting to season 2 so quickly.

@MisterK-YT Жыл бұрын

Who’s that? What happened?

@mycattypedthis2827 Жыл бұрын

Knowing Frank's fate in the game I started sobbing immediately and didn't stop till the end of the episode. But when they turned their story around and removed the falling out, it made everything hurt ten thousand times more. Now Bill isn't just another tool to help Ellie and Joel on their quest, he's an important thematic linchpin to tie the story together

@nickv1212 Жыл бұрын

A big part of the game and themes are literally "the last of US". This series isn't just about any two characters, it's about all of us, humanity. That's what all the notes scattered around the game world are there for, to give context and tell the stories of all that have come and gone. The fact the first major note left from someone we got to see was from Bill, just makes it all come together. I hope with this, we're able to see Ish's story. The fact we're jumping between characters like this this much will also make season 2 much less jarring.

@dreamcoyote Жыл бұрын

@@nickv1212 I agree. I didn't expect it, and only 3 episodes in it may not go further that way, but we see the deeper levels of "The Last of Us" inside Tess and Bill. It's a phrase that can be taken a lot of different ways but I really, *really* like these character pieces. Doesn't hurt that the actors are knocking it out of the park as well ;).

@Nornwoo.inline Жыл бұрын

@@nickv1212 you said it BEST!!! its The las of US ('us' all humans, not only the main characters. like how the rest of the world is doing, how is humanity working, how is something as simple love and care works in the worlds end... ) man.. i wish i would have found your comment sooner! thank you!

@stevenseufert2520 Жыл бұрын

@mycattypedthis I'm surprised your cat knows about a character from a game, let alone was so moved by what would happen to human characters. I can't blame it though. It really was a very moving episode, and a well-done deviation from the game.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓🥺💕💕😭💕😍💕💕

@michellewang3270 Жыл бұрын

This show not only raised the bar for video game adaptations, it raised the bar for television. Congrats to the team.

@deebee4575 Жыл бұрын

Raised the bar for pushing a political agenda that affects about 10% of the population on 90% of the population.

@machomancake Жыл бұрын

There a full length movies with less emotional impact than this episode packed. I had literal tears - no, not the turn of phrase - LITERAL tears. These two actors absolutely nailed it. It’s one of the most powerful emotional moments in ANY show or movie. Very, very well done. Hats off to everyone who worked on this episode. My god.

@milosav7314 Жыл бұрын

Are you literally also gay by chance

@machomancake Жыл бұрын

@@milosav7314 I am not no. Not even bi-curious. Lol it was just well told compelling story-telling that was acted beautifully. The story between Bill and Frank was told in a way that transcended the relatability of my heterosexuality. It was simply beautiful for what it was and it was done really well

@milosav7314 Жыл бұрын

@@machomancake nice

@josfur1977 Жыл бұрын

IT WAS GAyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyEEEEEEEE ASF mate... hated it! boring and GAY.... 2 deadly nono combo!

@daniellaniganohara2456 Жыл бұрын

@@milosav7314 I mean, I'm sure gay people also cry at straight movies

@ClueFinderDirtDigger Жыл бұрын

I was a wreck the entire episode. Absolutely beautiful, completely tragic. Both actors brought Bill and Frank to life in such a believable way. Wow. This one will be on my mind for a long, long time.

@bretwilliams249 Жыл бұрын

I cried way more than is reasonable for the run time. So well done

@JordonTheo Жыл бұрын

Thus. That's such a big, memorable, and enjoyable part. It's not really even Bill. What was his purpose here?

@jedmosely6423 Жыл бұрын

I think I cried for most of the episode. It was really so good.

@TheWindsofWonder Жыл бұрын

@Amy while that’s true, I think I’m okay with having that be something for the game and then the show give us this masterpiece. Both stories serve the same purpose for Joel’s development, but this take is truly beautiful.

@traviscue2099 Жыл бұрын

@Amy I was like that at first.. But then we have the game, which is perfect.. I think we're going to see a lot more character stories like this.. Which makes sense, you can't just follow Joel and Ellie for a TV show for 75 minutes each episode.. It works amazingly in the game, but it wouldn't adapt well to a series.. I think we might even get a Sam and Henry story too.. as well as perhaps a Tommy/Maria.

@PastelN01r Жыл бұрын

"Save who you can save" is such a beautiful running theme for this show. I'm so excited for the next episode!

@ThePokestopPapi Жыл бұрын

As good of a theme or phrase as "When lost in the darkness, look for the light" and "Endure and survive"

@TheFreshTrumpet Жыл бұрын

@@ThePokestopPapi shoutout “you keep finding something (/someone) to fight for” and “you’re my people”. I’m so excited to see these stories brought to life with such a great cast and crew, what a treat man

@machodgdon Жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw that final dinner scene playing out I realized just how different and beautiful this adaptation is, and this makes Joel as a character hit even more because first he lost Sarah, then Tess, and now Bill without those final interactions. It makes you think what else is he gonna lose?

@rupertpumpkin4877 Жыл бұрын

It will hit 100x more when u realize how long Tess and Joel had been together

@OsaculnenolajO Жыл бұрын

@@rupertpumpkin4877 That's what really got me. They were together for over 13 years. Pedro is killing it as Joel. And I'm so glad they have changed the story and the relationships around, as it allows us to get attached to a different Joel all over again. It's reeling me in all over again.

@rupertpumpkin4877 Жыл бұрын

@@OsaculnenolajO my only gripe is not seeing the Joel Ellie Bill banters and also wished the Frank Bill story wasn't that long so we can get more main story because remember we only get 8 or 9 episodes this season. BUT that said, this is still a great episode.

@OsaculnenolajO Жыл бұрын

@@rupertpumpkin4877 Yeah I was sad not to see Joel and Ellie get to interact with Bill as well. But honestly, most of Bill's section in the game was exploration gameplay, and we had basically an entire episode of that last week. This was a really smart and honestly heartbreaking way to do Bills character justice. It was also a perfect way to depart from the game and give fans something new and expanded to enjoy. I know we will get LOTS of time with Joel and Ellie going forward. We already know that's going to be great. I'm really interested in the side stories we never got to fully explore in the games. And this was an amazing way to do that.

@rupertpumpkin4877 Жыл бұрын

@@OsaculnenolajO agreed. If they did this on Bill Frank's arc we're in for another rollercoaster next time with Sam's story

@Ren_Davis0531 Жыл бұрын

This episode combined with Annie Wersching’s death made for such a bittersweet day. R.I.P. Annie

@MisterK-YT Жыл бұрын

Who’s that? What happened?

@PeriodDrama Жыл бұрын

@@MisterK-YT She played Tess in the game.

@ChristianVillamil Жыл бұрын

@@MisterK-YT She played and voiced Tess in the game. She died of cancer.

@MisterK-YT Жыл бұрын

@@ChristianVillamil 😢

@tonycutty598 Жыл бұрын

What I love so much about these podcasts is that they explain things for me. I am Autistic, and, as such, I completely miss out on the significance of all the interpersonal details and subtle interactions between the characters. What this means; what that means. Why 'he' feels like that about 'her'; why Bill is relating to Joel even though he doesn't like him. Because I can't read body language or 'read between the lines', I miss out on all that richness and detail. So these podcasts fill me in on all these things, and make the experience so much richer for me too. The podcasts, if you like, make things so much more 'accessible' for a person with what is really a disability: the inability to understand human interactions. So I want to thank you for them. Thank you Troy, Craig and Neil for making this rich content so much more accessible to me ❤

@patrickcabanillas4282 Жыл бұрын

If we all remember carefuly, in Frank's letter in the OG game he said that he was so mad with him because "he wanted so much more from life and that Bill never understood that". I like to think that the amazing love story we've just seen in episode 3 is like an alternative universe where Bill actually understood Frank and let him love their town the way he wanted to for both of them. How freaking poetic god damn it. The game and the series rime like a f*cking beautiful poem. I love this universe.

@_M41KU_ Жыл бұрын

I really liked this episode. Usually gay characters are written in such a lazy way, they want you to like the character for what they stand for rather than for their personality. Refreshing to see a show depict same gender relationships in such authentic way.

@rottingroll Жыл бұрын

right! this was simply a love story between two people and they did it perfectly

@soggyscarecrow Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@mossyteethbones Жыл бұрын

beautifully said

@elderrusty541 Жыл бұрын

Because simply put, it’s just a love story, you could swap out Frank with a woman and it’s the same story

@williammccormick984 Жыл бұрын

Nah, this was pretty lazy

@packerkats7578 Жыл бұрын

Using the woman’s dress as the transition/through-line from Joel/Ellie’s story to Frank/Bill’s was a genius bit of storytelling.

@joeokabayashi8669 Жыл бұрын

"I was never aftraid unitl...: is truly a core concept of love for another. Well done!

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭🤧❤️❤️🥺💕💕🍓🍓

@Ren_Davis0531 Жыл бұрын

At first, I was hesitant on how they would handle Frank still being alive in the show as that dramatically changes Bill’s narrative purpose. After watching this episode, I have to say that they re-contextualized how Bill fits into the narrative in a way that I think works just as well. I think it’s another example of a well thought out deviation from the game that dug into the characters a little more, while also still serving the main characters’ arcs. Quite lovely episode.

@Alpha_beef Жыл бұрын

You described it perfectly. Very elegant and beautiful way of bringing new ideas into the narrative. This episode gave me a lot of faith in the writers and directors

@SidPhoenix2211 Жыл бұрын

Exactly!! In the game, Bill is a cautionary tale about living without love. Here, Bill is a reminder of the beauty of love, and the lengths one would go to protect it.

@chand911 Жыл бұрын

lol, "Bill's narrative purpose" Yeah, how would the writers ever divine another way to get a truck.

@Ren_Davis0531 Жыл бұрын

@@chand911 That’s the point A to point B purpose. The actual narrative purpose is to serve as a cautionary tale to Joel about only focusing on survival at the expense of living. Bill is Joel’s extreme. He is a good survivalist, but he’s fighting to simply exist in a town full of Infected as opposed to any meaningful human connection. In the show they opted to have Bill start as that cold-hearted survivalist who learns to open his heart to experience what life has to offer, having that ultimately underpin Joel’s story. So yeah Bill’s narrative purpose is much more substantial than “give Joel a truck.”

@Nornwoo.inline Жыл бұрын

@@chand911 bills narrative purpose for this episode is not only to get the car and load up for drive, it was to show us and show Joel the burden, the fear and the responsabily of protecting someone else more than himself.. as Bill said "i was never afraid, until you showed up" : )

@TwilitVoyager Жыл бұрын

I cannot believe how beautifully the film team took a blip in time from the game and turned it into a fully fleshed story of loneliness leading to deep love then release. As a gay man, this is the angle of representation I have sorely been unable find in modern media. I don’t really feel like any of the gay people I see in film. Seeing Nick Offerman and Murray Bartlett play out the story of these two characters was nothing short of breathtaking. It made me feel good to be me just as I am, regardless of adversity faced, inner-community included. Thank HBO for allowing this story to make it off the writing table, thank you for casting Bill and Frank perfectly, thank you to the whole film crew for making this perfect. Thank you for giving us (even us gays) a reason to observe hope in such a bleak setting.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓💕💕🥺🤧😭💓💓❤️❤️❤️

@AlexRN Жыл бұрын

Can we take a moment to praise Craig’s imitation of Nick at @6:50 ? Uncanny!

@kybercrow Жыл бұрын

God, when "On the Nature of Daylight" kicked in I was in tears 😭 Not just that music combined with what happened in the scene, but on the back of Annie passing away as well...I'm a wreck this evening.

@Rashomon00 Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. That song paired with such a beautiful story is devastating.

@LaMancha958 Жыл бұрын

@@Rashomon00 Absolutely!

@flecks_piano Жыл бұрын

I'm so familiar with that piece I recognized it on the first note. I was so glad they used it for the whole montage of their final day. Truly a beautiful episode.

@Wildo87112 Жыл бұрын

Ugh same... I'm coming to the conclusion that it's not the "sad" scenes that make me cry much, it's when there's overwhelming beauty and joy. It was the same case at the very end of Schindler's List when the film goes from black and white to colors

@finntrew9184 Жыл бұрын

By god, I’m an emotional woman generally, but I was a wreck as a result of this episode. I cried through two thirds of it, I’m still crying twenty minutes later! Seeing the look on Joel’s face as he realised he’s lost people he loves again… pfffft I sobbed like a child. The changes made to adapt this to TV have been done so beautifully, it brings back the same emotions felt while playing the game, but elevates them to a whole new level. I feel so much connection with every character shown so far which wasn’t possible with the game and the sole focus on Ellie and Joel. I felt connected to Tess even, and I feel that the way she was brought into this episode gave such an insight into how truly lovely she was. How poetic that on the day her original, incredible actress passes from this world, her character is shown in such a beautiful light, and given so much weight in Joel’s heart. I love this show.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

Amazing episode I cried 😭💖🥺🍓🍓💕💓💓😭

@RealJustinCrow Жыл бұрын

As a Gay man, can I just say a huge THANK YOU to everyone on this episode and the show. For years, Gay on TV was camp, feminine and skinny. It was drag race, it was Will and Grace etc and for years I looked for me and never found me... Until Bill. I am such a Bill and this show showed me that I can be a gay guy who is also the handy man, the stocky man, the wild man. I finally found me and as such an emotional roller-coaster this series is, the emotional and mental boost that episode, and 5, has given me is priceless. Thank you cast, thank you creative, thank you production. I AM WHO I AM, AND NOW I KNOW I'M VALID ❤️🏳️‍🌈

@blakedubey3868 Жыл бұрын

I love that little window detail. Now every time I open the game, that window will always remind me of bill and Frank’s end. Even though that’s not the way it happens in the game, that’s the way I’ll think of it from now on.

@thehoopman88 Жыл бұрын

Deep af

@shumayelkhan8154 Жыл бұрын

The window when they’re in the shop (Joel and Ellie, and Ellie sees the clicker) looks EXACTLY like that window from the game opening menu

@blakedubey3868 Жыл бұрын

@@shumayelkhan8154 just rewatched and I see what you mean. Only thing it’s missing are the drapes lol.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

💖💖😭💖💖

@Tulku Жыл бұрын

I was really skeptical about Frank being a living person but filling in the backstory, and altering the end in a respectful way to how you just told the story was good.

@chand911 Жыл бұрын

What a dumb thing to worry about.

@williammccormick984 Жыл бұрын

It was very meh

@LuigiTheItalian Жыл бұрын

Why were really skeptical about Frank being a living person? Because he's dead when we meet him in the game? Is that why?

@LuigiTheItalian Жыл бұрын

@@williammccormick984 Are you telling yourself that, or trying to convince others to think the same way as you?

@williammccormick984 Жыл бұрын

@@LuigiTheItalian I took two seconds to comment on a random Last of Us video to say I thought the episode was alright. Two days ago. I don't really care what people think. I'm pretty sure how I feel about it. We done?

@cristiancarpio1814 Жыл бұрын

I have not cried over movie in a very long time, and virtually have never cried over a TV show. This hour episode was enough to have me sobbing alone late at night. As a long-time TLOU fan, this was a perfect episode.

@jeffreyesguitar5129 Жыл бұрын

It would be a crime if no one wins an award for this episode.

@smittyvanbonjohnson Жыл бұрын

I didn’t expect the episode to move me the way it did. The moment they play that piece of music that I’ve also heard in the closing moments of Arrival, I was a mess. This was the best example of a deviation done right…done perfectly. RIP Annie Wersching

@mossyteethbones Жыл бұрын

I'm glad other people recognize it from arrival as well. It is one of my favorite movies and pieces of music. The fact that they played it here as well breaks my heart. I couldn't stop bawling.

@mr.l6332 Жыл бұрын

for those reading this thread, the piece is On The Nature of Daylight by Max Richter. Also recognized it and was quite pleasantly surprised.

@smittyvanbonjohnson Жыл бұрын

@@alejandromangieri1495 Great taste ☺️ Arrival is a wonderful movie.

@smittyvanbonjohnson Жыл бұрын

@@mossyteethbones I also keep forgetting this was also used frequently in Shutter Island! But that example leads to dread 😟 This episode crushed me. The second I heard this and saw Bill and Frank at that piano exchanging rings, I ugly cried. I’m usually stone faced during most sad scenes. Not the case here lol 😭

@smittyvanbonjohnson Жыл бұрын

@@mr.l6332 Had to look up more of Max Richter after this. I keep forgetting this piece was in Shutter Island as well!

@RenegadeLK Жыл бұрын

I love how the show develops on characters you won't spend many episodes on but still connect on the same level as the main characters. Truly amazing work from the writers!

@Mandy_Moo Жыл бұрын

This episode was the first time as an adult I cried at something I watched in a movie or on TV. Not just some tears down my cheek, no, full on crying. I don't know how anyone who's ever been in or felt love wouldn't fall apart at this episode. That scene with Frank in the wheelchair telling Bill today is the day he's going to die was the most impactful piece of media I've seen in a very long time. I literally still think about it weeks later. I've been recommending this show to everyone ever since.

@HZDAloyRules Жыл бұрын

You know they’ve done a good job when you bawl your eyes out more at Bill and Franks story than Sarah’s death. As someone who played the game I expected losing Sarah. Still cried but I sobbed uncontrollably at the beautiful love story between these two human beings.

@franciscojavier8326 Жыл бұрын

I like the strawberry detail. Frank trades an instrument of death for a tool for life - the seeds-. That's Frank. He represents the protection of life and the preservation of love. That can also be seen when they get raided: Bill goes guns blazing, while Frank is only worried about Bill and makes him go inside and tend his hounds. Brilliant episode, 10/10.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭❤️❤️🍓🍓🤧💖💖🥺💖💖💖

@jessicacolgrave4082 Жыл бұрын

The lighting during the strawberry scene was a great nod too, Bill finding the light in his darkness.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓😭💖💖🤧

@daisyp3748 Жыл бұрын

I loved last week’s podcast so much that I rushed over here to tune in. It is now officially a part of my weekly ritual after each episode viewing. The Last of Us universe is so damn interesting and I love hearing insight from those involved in production. This week’s episode is another testament on how comedic actors nail dramatic roles. It’s nice to see Nick Offerman in the leagues of Adam Sandler, Tom Hanks, Bryan Cranston, and Bob Odenkirk. Also, Troy! You are such an intuitive host; you were the best choice to carry this podcast.

@MaryamofShomal Жыл бұрын

ALL HAIL NEIL DRUCKMANN 🤗🥰

@Snarkysean Жыл бұрын

My husband and I were sobbing. Fantastic work - knowing when to stray from the original story to improve on it.

@khimaros Жыл бұрын

Tell me about it. Our daughter spent the last 30 minutes consoling her mum, "it's okay". So sweet but quite amusing role reversal! I was in bits for most of it.

@str1xt Жыл бұрын

@@khimaros So sweet.x

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🥺😭🤧❤️❤️🍓🍓

@PlasticPanorama Жыл бұрын

I think "Long, Long Time" will go down as one of the best episodes in television history.

@fernando88811 Жыл бұрын

You're delusional.

@TheKevsquirrel Жыл бұрын

I do not understand how a heartbreakingly beautifully story of two people falling in love, and sharing a life, has caused some people to react so negatively. So much so, that they had to comment due to their discomfort. And yet not speak on the overwhelming pain of seeing the remains of a murdered mother and child.

@joeracer302 Жыл бұрын

Lots of people have unfortunate circumstances, never know love, become hardened and bitter people, and I think they look at a love story like this and it just serves to remind them that they’ll never know a tenth of the love Bill and Frank had. They’ll never be able to love and express themselves, and they are afraid that no one will ever love them. I honestly feel sad for them.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

@@joeracer302 💕💕💕💕

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

💓💓❤️🍓🍓❤️

@gothgirlhours7927 Жыл бұрын

What a beautiful, bittersweet love story. They created in an hour what some seasons-long shows fail to achieve. Bill and Frank demonstrate how love is a human emotion, beyond any arbitrary boundaries we draw in the sand. It doesn't matter who you love, and how you love them. What matters is love itself. And it made me cry like a child.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓🥺🤧😭💕💓💓

@IHamilton9320 Жыл бұрын

This episode has given me a massive sense of relief, as much as I was confident in the first two episodes this one really impressed me. Showed how much thought has gone into the actual underlying themes of the show and what they want to tell through their story. Bill and Frank’s relationship was real and beautiful and I feel that it fit into the story very well because of its execution. I can go into the rest of this season with zero worries about the quality

@Decide.Conquer Жыл бұрын

Well put.

@MaryamofShomal Жыл бұрын

Yup. Neil Druckmann is one of the greatest living storytellers, without question. It’s been such an honor to watch his masterpiece transformed in another medium, and I absolutely LOVE the change to the Bill and Frank story.

@Mariusgabben Жыл бұрын

Rest in Peace, Annie Wersching! This was an brilliant episode both in the series and podcast :)

@armitage1950 Жыл бұрын

This episode broke me. I have never shed a tear for a freaking TV show. Mind you, the episode is kind of personal for me, still though… bravo to everyone involved!

@thedude_-_ Жыл бұрын

I never shed a tear for a game until The Last of Us. Awesome to hear you have such a connection with the show too!

@samantharodriguez2283 Жыл бұрын

Yeah Seriously I shed Two Tears when they Drunk the wine 😢

@williammccormick984 Жыл бұрын

Watch more TV. This wasn't anything special

@TheCaliforniaHP Жыл бұрын

@@williammccormick984 It was special but they still should watch more TV

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭💓💓🍓🍓🥺💕💕😭

@mariejae Жыл бұрын

In-game Bill reminds me of my stubborn ex. I love that they made HBO Bill more open and compromising, he actually loves and is kinder. Very in tune with his partner and decides not to live without him 💞

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓💕💕🥺💕💕

@charlottelouise6433 Жыл бұрын

For me this show has been a massive love letter to the source and the fans, old and new. As someone who first played the game at 13 when it came out to now a decade later, just amazing. How lucky are we to fall in love with this story again? We'll never be able to play tlou for the first time ever again but this show is giving me that exact same feeling I got 10 years ago

@alejomiranda95 Жыл бұрын

Having played the game, I didn’t cry with the first episode, I was expecting “that” moment. But I did cry (quite a bit, to be honest) with this episode, I wasn’t expecting this. Well done.

@pickledparsleyparty Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm going to be debating with myself which version of Bill is more emotional forever. The show gives us a Romeo/Juliet story. The game's version of Bill's story is way more bitter and uncomfortable. I'm not sure which affected me more.

@alejomiranda95 Жыл бұрын

@@pickledparsleyparty I like how the show is exploring a more emotional side of the story, I like both versions but this episode hits a very emotional note where as the game is more depressing and ambiguous. I personally like the show’s portrayal better.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🤧🥺😭🍓🍓💕💖💕

@UniversalLevelThreat Жыл бұрын

RIP Annie Wersching your performance will stay with me forever!

@phillyjackson45 Жыл бұрын

Now I see why they said ep 3 was one of if not the best episode yet, loved the changes with Bill and Frank P.S. R.I.P. Annie

@LeeEverett1 Жыл бұрын

Bruh that gay love story was better than the first 2 episodes? Lmao this show isn't for you then 🤣

@Alpha_beef Жыл бұрын

@@LeeEverett1 What exactly is bad about a gay love story?

@dereksimons1525 Жыл бұрын

@@LeeEverett1 actually I think this show might not be for YOU

@megalodonenthusiasts3991 Жыл бұрын

@@LeeEverett1 the show is for Fans of the game/newcomers that understand and are mature enough for an ADAPTATION, be a big boy and cope harder 🥱

@mathewmcfool Жыл бұрын

Be truthful, ep 1 was super slow and boring. I finally decided to fast forward through all the dialogue on ep2.

@ParUhDroyd Жыл бұрын

As a fan of the game series, this episode feels like a big twist like the red wedding because I was so excited for this episode to see how the comedic dynamic between Ellie and Bill play out on TV as that's one of the high moments in the first game for me but then when i saw what we got here and how we wouldn't see that dynamic be shown at all, it just felt like a huge twist from the filmmakers to the gamers and I'm here for it. It's like what Neil said in the BTS, if a change plays better than the source material, go with it. This is one of the best episodes in TV history in my opinion, definitely deserves to be on the top list with Ozymandias of Breaking Bad, The Rains of Castemere of GoT and the 407 Proxy Authentication Required of Mr Robot. I'm not only excited to see where the show goes in general but to also see what more changes for the better have been done.

@ssotkow Жыл бұрын

Great interview Troy Baker. Love it when the host interviewer lead off with insightful questions and just let creators talk without interruptions.

@jonathanbooker281 Жыл бұрын

Frank having MS or ALS makes so much sense. My girlfriend has MS and fears the condition that Frank was in. It was literally what popped in my head as I was watching. Great scene

@RandyReviews1990 Жыл бұрын

iam sorry about gf having that i assumed frank had cancer!

@reignwarner Жыл бұрын

16 Years of Bill and Frank. Oh the beautiful years.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓😭😭❤️❤️❤️

@stardust6840 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love how this podcast adds so much information to every episode. As I am not at that age yet and didn't have the luck to see my parents have such relationship, I can now look at some things in the episode from another side after listening to Craig. And the episode itself was beautiful, absolutely beautiful. You know how when sometimes there is some (even moderate) hype around something, you are afraid to be let down (and I was afraid quite a lot due to their story in the game too), but it was perfect. No wonder the reviews were telling us to anticipate this episode.

@thedarkknight2221 Жыл бұрын

I cried once every 15 minutes this entire episode. This is one of the most beautiful and emotionally powerful episodes of tv I’ve ever seen. This felt like a movie that I guarantee would be on every critic’s shortlist for best picture at the Oscars. Neil Druckman said in the BTS video after the episode that he and Craig Mazin had this philosophy on the show was “when should we deviate and when should we come back, if it’s kinda the same or worse then they stay (completely faithful to the game), if it’s better we deviate”. I’m SO DAMN HAPPY THEY DEVIATED! And I’m so happy that it ended with them dying together instead of Bill just forever living alone like in the game. Also I loved the Mortal Kombat 2 cameo. And of course Ellie’s favorite character would be Mileena. Tragically yesterday Annie Wershing who played Tess in the game passed away at 45 due to cancer. So when they showed the flashback with Tess and Joel I cried. Rest In Peace Annie Wershing.❤❤

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭😭🍓🍓💓❤️💓❤️

@junjiito6298 Жыл бұрын

This show is getting better and better. The “changes” they have made still fit great with the characters of the game. What an episode. RIP to Annie as well. An overall sad day but let’s remember there is something to live for.

@MichelliFR Жыл бұрын

It warms my heart to see the people running the show being so thoughtful about the characters, the storyline, the fans and the representation! I am enjoying every decision and am excited and hopeful that you will make a huge improvement in industry standards! Thank you! 💙👏

@Kickstop_ Жыл бұрын

Why'd you do this to me??? I was bawling my eyes out. It was so well done hats off to Murray and Offerman!

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭🥺🤧❤️🍓🍓❤️❤️

@themegjake4000 Жыл бұрын

This was the episode for me. The first 2, I had my reservations. I didn’t know how I felt about not staying 100% true to the game that I hold so near and dear to my heart. But this episode I finally was like “this IS The Last of Us”. It told us a somewhat new story while still having the same emotional depth that the game has. That same Raw core feeling I get when I play as Joel and Ellie. This sorta beautiful sorrow. Seeing Bill take Frank back to their bed somehow felt both new and fresh, but also could have been straight from one of the games. It strikes that balance so incredibly well. I can’t wait to watch next week.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

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@MinersLoveGames Жыл бұрын

Arguably one of the best episodes of modern television I've seen since Ozymandias.

@liamstanley5599 Жыл бұрын

Absolute facts

@khateleesi Жыл бұрын

I'm so grateful for this podcast, because it truly does help me fall in love with the story even MORE, and see it in the amazing light as the ones who poured their hearts out into the show.

@noizetrauma242 Жыл бұрын

"They seem fully healthy until the heart attack staggers them out of nowhere." This rings so true. My 82 year old father in law, two years ago, was re-reoofing his grandson's house in the 110 degree heat. Picture of health. Worked out. Walked his dog miles every night until the dog was tired. Then when winter came, he stumbled a few too many times to dismiss. Turns out he had a brain tumor. Fast-forward a year and a half, they were able to remove the tumor, but now he can barely walk without aid. He has anomia and struggles to speak in complete sentences. He's frail. And he's extremely depressed because this weakness came over him so suddenly and his self-sufficiency was one of his points of pride. It came so suddenly and was so life-changing. It made my partner really depressed and she now feels her own mortality. My father struggled with cancer and it fallout for 20 years before passing, so I was used to those feelings. But for her it's crippling.

@bretwilliams249 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making me weep for 30 minutes straight.

@sanneannelies843 Жыл бұрын

I love that it was there own choice to go out the way they did. In this series, a lot of people's lives get taken from them. It is so powerful in this dangerous world that they had a different choice. That people got to have a life and have love. It makes it more powerful to me. That the human side to all of us is never really gone. ❤️

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

💕🍓🍓😭💕💕

@Dcramer710 Жыл бұрын

Troy is such a fantastic host. I love that the care and attention and love for the game is translating to the show. So happy that Bill got a MUCH better ending than in the game. And honestly, Ellie has the ability to be snarky with so many other characters, so I really did not miss her and Bill meeting. I think this is a moment where the show is so much better than the game. Though, I lost my mom to ALS, so this episode hit so dang hard. Hit very close to home.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🤧🍓🍓😭😭💓🥺💓❤️❤️❤️

@cocoacoconuts24 Жыл бұрын

It was like “Up” in the apocalypse. Also, I was not prepared for that tender, bittersweet piano performance from Bill of all people. It reminded me of “I Will Always Think of You” from Bojack Horseman. And their final scene, I was like “Oh, it’s the giraffe song!” 😭

@jessipeculiar Жыл бұрын

When I heard the giraffe song I was just like "Noooo! Not this song too 😭😭😭" the proceded to really ugly cry. It was just too much, taking a song that was so serene and happy and putting it in that scene just killed me. That was really powerful

@spacechannelg6843 Жыл бұрын

This episode was one for the books! a 10/10 honestly

@kellenmarlin8150 Жыл бұрын

This episode made Joel and Ellie’s story even better. The letter and Pedro’s reaction was one of the best moments of the series so far. Joel is a protector who has failed to protect, but we can clearly tell that this won’t be true for very much longer.

@vinbarrientos2778 Жыл бұрын

I have not listened to the podcast yet, but i just want to say how beautiful this episode was and congratulation to the cast, crew and directors. Ironically, in the end i was crying because i was happy for Bill and Frank rather than being sad with the outcome. They went out on their own terms and almost lived a full life with the person they love - and that is a luxury in the TLoU world.

@lillianesquivel5077 Жыл бұрын

Omg! This is one of the loveliest love stories I've seen in A long time...I cried so many times. These two deserve an award for their portrail of a wonderful love story!!!

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓🥺🤧😭😭💕💕💕

@sammijane Жыл бұрын

I was crying from start to end, happy tears, sad, happy again. I’ve never seen such a beautiful piece of film in my life as a film studies educated person and just as a human being more importantly. It’s technically perfect, and it’s emotionally beyond perfection. Perfectly displaying imperfection in the world. The way it was started and then tied up with Joel and Ellie too… when Joel started mouthing the song in the car in the end… I just couldn’t cope I cried some more, and then the window, again.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓😭😭💓❤️💓❤️

@devin_the_dude_3 Жыл бұрын

This episode felt like a love letter to the fans. Great from beginning to end. Thank you for elevating this wonderful story.

@mattt6201 Жыл бұрын

How? There was no interaction between Bill and Ellie like in the game (which was great) and most of the episode was backstory romance that was only vaguely mentioned in the game. It was a major departure, not a love letter.

@lucilavi137 Жыл бұрын

@@mattt6201 Well, the letter was the connection between Bill and Ellie. If you know what happens in the near future, surely that letter will come back to remind Joel what he can do.

@najtrows Жыл бұрын

I like that they deviate in the just right ways. As a big fan of the games I am glad that there are stuff that can surprise me and that it's not just shot for shot of all the cutscenes. I have cried every episode

@cookieface80 Жыл бұрын

One of the few episodes of television to make me tear up.

@SunLollyandRainbows Жыл бұрын

Beautiful episode. Nick Offerman and Murray Bartlett were amazing. Beautiful to see the growth of Bills's character and Bartlett's portrayal of Frank who just was the sunshine that shone into Bill's hidden self and brought him out to the light. If you've seen Bartlett in White Lotus and then watch him here, I'm with the creators, Bartlett can pretty much play anything. Superb storytelling.

@mikethemosher Жыл бұрын

Love that Troy is running these episodes.

@mastpg Жыл бұрын

The saying that the only true journeys of discovery come not from seeking new landscapes but gaining new eyes is about as true of this series as of anything else I can remember in the creative space. Certainly surpasses both attempts to adapting The Stand and already seems to be a match for Lonesome Dove. Having through played the game most every year since it came out, I can't imagine seeing it the same way after this series. There is now more context and character in the game and two new eyes seeing it. Thanks, guys.

@VicTheFigGuy Жыл бұрын

This one episode alone got more emotional punch than many full blown 2-3 hours movies I have watched. Just beautifully done. Phenomenal.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓😭💓❤️💓❤️🥺❤️❤️

@thenorseguy2495 Жыл бұрын

This episode hit extra hard with the horrible sad news we got this Sunday. Rest in peace Annie ❤

@thehoopman88 Жыл бұрын

Yeah such a tragedy 😢

@harrar8 Жыл бұрын

I was very skeptical, but I gotta admit, they knocked it out of the park with this one. Had a little something in my eye at the end.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭🍓🍓💕💕

@HorrorGeek9 Жыл бұрын

What a masterclass in story telling. Nick Offerman and Murray Bartlett deserve awards for their performances here. Definitely my favorite episode so far. In my eyes Bill's story on the show was way better than what happened in the game. This is how you expand and deviate from the source material 🙌🏽

@jonahnichols1 Жыл бұрын

This episode was so beautifully sad, and it is sadder with the passing of Annie Wersching happing the same day. My condolences to her family and friends. This episode really shows the beauty of life and that is what we should take away from it.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🤧😭💓💓

@jessicafuimaono3046 Жыл бұрын

This episode made me so happy that Bill and Frank had a happy ending! That strawberry patch scene was just so cute. I couldn’t stop crying it was a beautiful episode.

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

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@StereoDreams385 Жыл бұрын

My only complaint is that we got exactly zero Bill and Ellie moments. Their banter was golden and I was really looking forward to seeing that.

@kavid8120 Жыл бұрын

get over it man. It’s just banter. It’s not so important that it needed to be in the show

@brendenziede9058 Жыл бұрын

Woulda been great to see! However, we never got any bill and frank scenes in the game, I think it’s a fair trade

@HeyoChris Жыл бұрын

@@kavid8120 He said his “only” complaint. Meaning he liked everything else. So relax. He’s allowed to express his views. I agree, I’m sad we won’t get to see that, but I’m happier with this Bill story than the original.

@viral4983 Жыл бұрын

@@kavid8120 i was looking forwards to it too, as well as the chance at “hows he walk around with that thing, why are the pages stuck together” but i loved every second of this episode despite that, as i still get to see that in the game already anyways. this was way better

@Comatosedpeanut Жыл бұрын

@@kavid8120 nothing in this episode was important or needed in the show

@thegirlonfiredolls Жыл бұрын

i watched it back to back with 2 different friends and cried both times! soo good, wasnt expectin what happened (ive watched the games) only right at the end did i start thinkin what might be happening.. it was beautiful and sad. i liked how the story was still similar to the game and more profound by showing us things we didnt know and also different by doing other things differently! cant wait for ep4

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🥺💕💕🍓🍓🤧😭💓💓

@limnakama Жыл бұрын

Great job guys. Sobbed throughout the entire last third of the episode. Been loving this series

@perseusjones9464 Жыл бұрын

Oh man, this was such a special episode. It broke me multiple times on several different occasions. It was tragic, beautiful, romantic and heavy. Loved every second of it. 🙏🏼

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭🍓🍓😭💓❤️💓❤️🥺

@a_lot5163 Жыл бұрын

The window idea is amazing!!!! I am sure it would have been hard to implement but it would have been an awesome callback to the game and such an enabler of the atmosphere you are trying to push in each episode.

@elen_jaxx Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, having this podcast is like making the best episode of THE WORLD even longer. I needed this.

@snoopdoggydogg94 Жыл бұрын

12:02 This is why This is NOT a filler episode. Didnt know how to word it. But the creater himself knows, and this is AGAIN a fantastic way to adapt video games to other storytelling medias! Neil man…. Thank god you are there.

@CaBobProductions Жыл бұрын

My heart is still pounding from the pure emotion, an incredible episode. Thank you so much for this show, guys.

@alejomiranda95 Жыл бұрын

@@zestorychannel1000 They were already gay in the game, you would know if you cared to play it.

@SC-stonerconstruction Жыл бұрын

@@zestorychannel1000 gay people need to realize they're not the whole world

@personofpinterest4281 Жыл бұрын

Me and my friend watched this episode almost in complete silence. It was great.

@Luke101 Жыл бұрын

One of the best single episodes of tv I’ve ever watched. Felt like a short film.

@atogodless Жыл бұрын

Yeap. Like a short film that has nothing to do with last of us.

@joel5956 Жыл бұрын

I like the idea that even though we see a love story in the episode, Bill and Frank probably would have hated each other if they met pre-apocalypse. Thanks, apocalypse! 👍

@SilverInterpolFire Жыл бұрын

This is cinema. This episode was so sad but so good 😭

@mindofinception3991 Жыл бұрын

This was such a beautifully told story of bill and frank, I wasn’t expecting to be chocked up by the end, Speechless…

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓😭😭❤️💖❤️💖🤧

@joyanna9433 Жыл бұрын

Just watched the episode for the second time, and i cried again. What a powerful, honest, heartbreaking and heartwarming portrait of love and interpersonal relationships. As a game player I'm so, so happy with the direction you guys took and Bill didn't end up bitter and miserable, but had a full life and a happy end. 10/10 writing

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

😭🍓🍓🤧💓💓❤️❤️

@jessicarakowicz1627 Жыл бұрын

I think this episode should be nominated for awards. It’s going on my list of best love stories.

@wakandaforever616 Жыл бұрын

I agree one of the best love stories I've seen to date.

@caioleonel6909 Жыл бұрын

i cried at the strawberry scene, not because it was sad or anything, but because it's something so beautiful in a environment so bleak

@Hechicera86 Жыл бұрын

🍓🍓😭🍓🍓❤️🤧❤️❤️❤️

@HiFiAwardTour Жыл бұрын

This was a great podcast. I felt like I enjoyed this episode the least so far but after listening I did get a new appreciation for it. I also didn’t realize Troy was the interviewer before listening. Great touch, great job, and loved the podcast.