Ahmer Naqvi - "Mera pura mulk duniya bhar mein Katora lekar ghoom Raha hai. IMF alag Fadda kar raha hai ab India ka naam lekar views bhi na lu Mai"

for sure

hhahahah

Dono ke dono poore chum@₹tiye hai. This Naqvi did a podcast where they literally beeped the word India. Yeh Osman toh pichle world cup mein bhi muh mein lekar ghoom Raha tha babar ka.

I feel we in cricket love the idea of a draw, but esp in knockout/tournament events I think you need results. think of penalty shootouts or overtime periods.

@@BattaFast yes that is exactly what I am saying that super over is great for knockout games but potentially detrimental in group games

great names, but all were quite washed, esp Ws and Saeed bhai. Inzi was horribly out of form, MYK was never an ODI great.

tangible haal

Well I guess you knew something we didnt part 1 done

thank you for the kind words. To provide some nuance, we aren't saying those two are infallible or perfect. But the way they bat, their approach and ability, is how white-ball cricket, especially T20s are being played now. We have a long history of cricket which shows that backing players and giving them stability gives them the best chance to succeed. With a WT20 in the Caribbean, it would be bonkers to drop two guys who have succeeded in T20 competitions there. there is no denying that Saim in particular hasn't played well in an extended (by Pakistani standards) run, but it's not like Pakistan is overflowing with batting talent. Perhaps most importantly, opening with Rizwan and Babar definitely puts a ceiling on your potential score, as does the tactic of not giving your best hitters the most time to bat. i've mentioned on the show before, but to me the debate in T20 batting was settled in the 2016 WT20 when the Windies showed that having six-hitters from 1-11 was the most efficient way to approach the format. they used that to beat far more diverse and versatile batting lineups and remain the most successful nursery for T20 talent. Saim and Azam can *potentially* be that for Pakistan in meaningful, tournament games. Dropping them and condemning them to purgatory (like with MHaris) only decreases your chances of success in the long run.

Ahmer bhai on 🔥 fire 😂

yes that's a very fair point. that era had a lot of disruptions in captains and coaches so its perhaps not a very coherent era but you are completely right that in raw numbers they were more successful.

@@BattaFast - thanks for clarifying.Also pertinent to note is that Pak players of early 2000’s were ahead of the time and had lot of T20 experience before 2007 (based on explanation from Misbah in some show) and Sialkot Stallions.Credit to them that inspite of so many disruptions till about 2012 they were super competitive.The bowling for sure was more talented than current lot-Asif, Gul, Ajmal,Afridi,Tanveer, Amir, Wahab even Hafeez would be counted as the GOAT T20 bowling line up (on similar line to WI of early 2010’s having GOAT batting) if not for the disruptions.

this is the real tragedy, which I was reminded of from your comment. Pakistan was waaaay ahead of the T20 game, partly because of the popularity of the domestic T20 tournaments and successful teams like Faisalabad Wolves and Stallions, but I think also because everyone had grown up playing tape-ball which is so close to T20s. I think because of that till 2012 we were well ahead of the game.