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Episode 47 Inverter ANL fuse install and load test

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Chris Edwards Restoration

Chris Edwards Restoration

6 жыл бұрын

Adding ANL Fuses to the Tigerclaw 1500w pure sine wave inverter, and also a load test on a 1500 watt quartz heater. i toss a 300 a fuse into a 2 gauge wire (pos) to TEST a load . the proper fuse/wire for this test should be about 200-250A fuse. for the batteries.My battery Red power wire is a 0AWG rated at 300amps according to its printing on the casing. Please use the chart below to figure out your rating/wire size for your loads.
my peak load on the inverter is 3000 watt, thus this max rating test with a300 amp fuse.
The fuse rating is "generally" (watts/volts) x 1.25, example: lets say 1500 watts normal run usage, so 1500 divided by the volts (12v dc in my case) is 125, now x1.25 = 156.25 ,
I Personally just use a 10:1 rule of thumb ratio so 100 watt 1 amp fuse etc.. so 3000 watt load on my peak is 300 amp, give or take a few. i tested it with a 150 on a 1500watt load and the moment it went over 1500 watts the fuse popped, so it calculates close enough for me. but for those that need official charts, scroll down below the links.
here is some science and data..
The fuse size should be based upon the amperage draw of whatever you are running, not the watt rating of the inverter SIZE YOUR FUSES ACCORDINGLY!
A general rule for any Anneaaled CU Wire, also those American Wire Gauge charts are for chassis wiring. and they are always downgraded. stranded vs solid core, voltage drop, temperatures, thickness, thermal conductivity all play roles. its such a short run, its totally capable. those ratings are just a rule of thumb. the marking on the cable will display its "rated limits" just don't use cheap a$$ cables.
--wire size guide for 12v fuse ratings.
00 awg 400 amps
0 awg 325 amps
1 awg 250 amps
2 awg 200 amps
4 awg 125 amps
6 awg 80 amps
8 awg 50 amps
10 awg 30 amps
12 awg 20 amps
14 awg 15 amps
16 awg 7.5 amps
-- guide for watts to amps calculations for fuse ratings here
Watts To Amps At 12V (For Batteries)
Watts: Amps (at 12V):
1 Watt to amps at 12V: 83 mA (milliamps)
10 Watts to amps at 12V: 830 mA
50 Watts to amps at 12V: 4.17 Amps
100 Watts to amps at 12V: 8.33 Amps
200 Watts to amps at 12V: 16.67 Amps
300 Watts to amps at 12V: 25.00 Amps
400 Watts to amps at 12V: 33.3 Amps
500 Watts to amps at 12V: 41.7 Amps
600 Watts to amps at 12V: 50.0 Amps
700 Watts to amps at 12V: 58.3 Amps
800 Watts to amps at 12V: 66.7 Amps
900 Watts to amps at 12V: 75.0 Amps
1000 Watts to amps at 12V: 83.3 Amps
1100 Watts to amps at 12V: 91.7 Amps
1200 Watts to amps at 12V: 100.0 Amps
1300 Watts to amps at 12V: 108.3 Amps
1400 Watts to amps at 12V: 116.7 Amps
1500 Watts to amps at 12V: 121.7 Amps
1800 Watts to amps at 12V: 150.0 Amps
2000 Watts to amps at 12V: 166.7 Amps
2500 Watts to amps at 12V: 208.3 Amps
3000 Watts to amps at 12V: 250.0 Amps
MY setup at the time of making this video,
Fuse Holder: general eBay! search item may or may not be there still
www.ebay.com/itm/264752080213
Inverter:
OSP Tigerclaw 1500/3000 Pure Sine-wave inverter
Batteries:
(12) CSB 12v/75ah =900AH
SOLAR
(6) whatever brand 150W rando ebay panels in parallel 12v feeds to PWM charge controller

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@yvonnecusworth3246
@yvonnecusworth3246 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Found the glass fuse holder set. Very much appreciated.
@christophermarksberry9657
@christophermarksberry9657 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and God bless America! Thank you patriot!
@andyirons7162
@andyirons7162 6 ай бұрын
Not sure where you got your wire sizing guide numbers from....they seem overrated/over inflated. E.g. 2/0 AWG copper stranded cable (i.e. ~67-70mm squared) is usually rated up to ~280-290A (@90 degrees insulation) MAX, or even lower according to some. I have never seen 2/0AWG rated at 400A. Running close to 400Amps through 2/0 AWG cable will cause immense heat.
@dadoymatulac
@dadoymatulac Жыл бұрын
This fuse good for solar sir
@guestguest
@guestguest 11 ай бұрын
If you have an aftermarket car audio system. Do not connect the led fuse holder under the hood. You’d want to connect it to your secondary battery if you have one. Since the amplifier(s) draw the most power that’s where you would want to measure for voltage drop.
@lukewarren7857
@lukewarren7857 Жыл бұрын
Thank you When you said;300 amp ANL fuse I paused video went into O Riley's and ordered it for $7.50.with a 24 hour delay between Salt lake City and Denver I'm using this afternoon the 140 amp battery isolator ( placement for now was going before a 2 gauge wire feed with at least ten feet of wire through firewall before going into a storage batteries system with upgrade s to my inverter system starting at 1000 watt's Then add another 300 amp fuse from my additional 100 AH solar panel and 500 watt converter? I hope that I'm correctly understanding these lessons
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Жыл бұрын
you may want to downsize your fuses if your max is 1000 watts, mine is 1500/3000, so redneck math of 10a for 100 hence 300a for 3000 is the MAX rating. my fuses are direct between the inverter and the battery, I too have a isolator on off switch that is direct, no fusing internal, like a bus bar you can move off or on, it is on my negative battery terminal from the inverter. figure out what the max load you draw from your inverter and size it from there, if its 2000 watts, and your BATTERY size cables are large you can run a 200 amp fuse, test it, get some multipacks on ebay, they are cheap, a few sacrificial blows to test your range. i have 900amphours in my battery array so my max load is 300 amps. yours may vary depending on your max load and battery amphours, remember cable length also can drop the voltages too if its a long run. -- the fuse rating is generally (watts/volts) x 1.25, example: lets say 1500 watts normal run usage, so 1500 divided by the volts (12v dc in my case) is 125, now x1.25 = 156.25 , I just use a 10:1 rule of thumb ratio so 100 watt 1 amp fuse etc.. so 3000 watt load on my peak is 300 amp, give or take a few. i tested it with a 150 on a 1500watt load and the moment it went over 1500 watts the fuse popped, so it calculates close enough for me.
@dc4l677
@dc4l677 Жыл бұрын
​@Chris Edwards Restoration great info brother
@yvonnecusworth3246
@yvonnecusworth3246 3 жыл бұрын
Can you PLEASE tell me where to buy the glass fuse set with the led readout? I have been searching but unable to find anything like it. Thank you so very much, cheers Yvonne
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 3 жыл бұрын
ebay! search for ANL fuse holder LED like this one for example. www.ebay.com/itm/264752080213
@zaph0dbeebl3br0x
@zaph0dbeebl3br0x 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! i got a question regarding the AWG 2 cable. Its rated 300amps. But when I look it up on any awg chart online..it states that awg 2 can only support 94amps. And only a 4/0 wire can support 300amps.
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 4 жыл бұрын
that is a general rule for any Anneaaled CU Wire, also those American Wire Gauge charts are for chassis wiring. and they are always downgraded. , stranded vs solid core, voltage drop, temperatures, thickness, thermal conductivity all play roles. its such a short run, its totally capable. those ratings are just a rule of thumb. the marking on the cable will display its "rated limits" your good! just don't use cheap ass cables. and i doubt we are pulling that man amps on a solar / battery setup anyway.
@heatherk8931
@heatherk8931 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration I looked at the digital fuse block link. They are 200 and 300 fuses. Is there anything more in line for 30 and 40, maybe 150 amps with that cool readout feature that you've seen? I am setting up a solar array, yup
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 2 жыл бұрын
They come in all sizes from 10 to 500 amp
@heatherk8931
@heatherk8931 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration thank you. I was thinking only for the solar run to controller just for gee wiz. Glad I found you😊
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 2 жыл бұрын
My big fuse is the anl from battery to inverter. Due to my amp hour range and number of batteries while parallel do have some capable amp hours (900) my inverter is a tigerclaw pure sign wave 1500/3000 startup load. I have several other msw inverters from 400 to 2500w. I have three 150w 12v panels on my roof now controlled by my hqst pwm controller. Each of My solar panels have mc4 in line fuses at 15amp by renogy.
@wallygator1254
@wallygator1254 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, i have a 1000w pure sine inverter in my RV that powers the refrigerator. I foolishly bought a new battery and installed it backwards. Do you think the inverter is junk? It has an ANL fuse
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 4 жыл бұрын
Fuse would have popped or the inverter has polarity protection as most do to prevent that exact issue
@heatherk8931
@heatherk8931 2 жыл бұрын
It would really be helpful if you showed your bench work. I came to see How To... slow the camera spinouts, yikes!
@maryjoanmontalvo9153
@maryjoanmontalvo9153 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, is it fine to use a 300amp fuse eventhough I'm only needing 150amp? Thanks in advance
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 6 жыл бұрын
depends on the peak load, my peak load on the inverter is 3000 watt, thus 300 amp fuse, the fuse rating is generally (watts/volts) x 1.25, example: lets say 1500 watts normal run usage, so 1500 divided by the volts (12v dc in my case) is 125, now x1.25 = 156.25 , I just use a 10:1 rule of thumb ratio so 100 watt 1 amp fuse etc.. so 3000 watt load on my peak is 300 amp, give or take a few. i tested it with a 150 on a 1500watt load and the moment it went over 1500 watts the fuse popped, so it calculates close enough for me.
@maryjoanmontalvo9153
@maryjoanmontalvo9153 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Edwards got it! Thanks man! Been a great help!
@classaendlessadventure2879
@classaendlessadventure2879 3 жыл бұрын
geat vid thanks for info i subscribed hope i get it back lots of info thanks again very helpfull
@MegaBluecream
@MegaBluecream 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you connect the display wire too?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 5 жыл бұрын
ground or the negative battery terminal
@myresonance8013
@myresonance8013 2 жыл бұрын
My 3000watt invertor has a surge of 6000watts am I not able to use that much with a 300amp megafuse ?!?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 2 жыл бұрын
I am 1500/3000 i have a fuse close to my max amp range
@akau1340
@akau1340 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy everything about this video EXCEPT you move the camera around too fast.
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 4 жыл бұрын
im working on improving. !
@phhsing29
@phhsing29 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, where did you connect that black wire to from that ANL fuse holder?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 5 жыл бұрын
to any negative terminal on the battery
@phhsing29
@phhsing29 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jarronhaleysorrell
@jarronhaleysorrell 3 жыл бұрын
Or ground
@bennychand143
@bennychand143 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I ordered this distribution block for my car amplifier. Does the voltage indicator LED light up during load or all the time if terminals are connected? Do you think this will discharge the car battery when car is not in use because of the voltage LED?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 3 жыл бұрын
Not at all it only uses milivolts to show the voltage. I removed ky Solar feed for over a werk one time while doing battery swaps and never had any issues. Enjoy!
@bennychand143
@bennychand143 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Thank you :)
@mosesarchibaldjr3757
@mosesarchibaldjr3757 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration hi i installed this very distribution block on my car but it does not display the voltage. only lights up two little red dots. what could be the cause of this?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 3 жыл бұрын
Improper grounding or you have a poop unit. Is the fuse in? All connections tight? Just ground the little wire to metal anywhere
@bennychand143
@bennychand143 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Everything is fine. I was wondering if there is a chance of battery discharge due to lighting of the voltage indicator. I understand it consumes very miniscule amount of power but just wanted to be sure in case i leave the car parked for a month or so.
@MidwaySolarWestIndies
@MidwaySolarWestIndies 5 жыл бұрын
Got a link to the fuse holder with display?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 5 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/CAR-STEREO-AUDIO-LED-DISPLAY-BASE-ANL-FUSE-HOLDER-0-2-4-GA-100A-300A-12V-DC-T/282587290843?hash=item41cb83dcdb:rk:1:pf:0
@MidwaySolarWestIndies
@MidwaySolarWestIndies 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Thanks!
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 5 жыл бұрын
if that link don't last, just ebay/amazon ANL fuse holder with display
@dameonmorehead8437
@dameonmorehead8437 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you put the blue wire that's on a 0 gauge fuse holder
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 2 жыл бұрын
its a ground for the digital lead
@Khon_kha
@Khon_kha 7 ай бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestorationhey I have a black and blue wire on my fuse holder ? Does blue mean ground and black means ?
@nightstringers
@nightstringers Жыл бұрын
From what i have read ANL fuses arent' for inverter install that they require A T type fuse must be used .
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Жыл бұрын
been working totally fine for years... popped one when i overloaded the batteries w multiple inverters, so they work.
@nightstringers
@nightstringers Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration and they don't get hot? Good to know
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Жыл бұрын
Never
@lukewarren7857
@lukewarren7857 Жыл бұрын
Now I'm wondering if they are mentioned to use before the batteries isolator ?
@Rob555ism
@Rob555ism Жыл бұрын
nice... too too much camera movement
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration Жыл бұрын
old pre tripod video.
@bayview63
@bayview63 5 жыл бұрын
Am I correct thinking if I have a 2000 watt inverter , I need a 200 amp fuse.
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 5 жыл бұрын
Not exactly , make sure your wire diameter can support the wattage. otherwise it would get hot and possibly melt/burn
@bayview63
@bayview63 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Edwards that would mean I need 0 gauge wire. The inverter company tells you to use 8 gauge. So confused.
@flyingdutch9818
@flyingdutch9818 3 жыл бұрын
No. You are basing your math on the wrong factor. The fuse size should be based upon the amperage draw of whatever you are running, not the watt rating of the inverter. If the watt draw of, say an induction cooktop plugged into your inverter were drawing 2000w then yes the fuse would be 200A
@motobacktoconstitution4138
@motobacktoconstitution4138 4 жыл бұрын
I didnt see you brow up fuse
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a good thing
@whereislei929
@whereislei929 3 жыл бұрын
sure wish you would’ve included putting the wires in the ANL fuse.
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 3 жыл бұрын
Its just a hex key screw that tightens them down. Super easy
@whereislei929
@whereislei929 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration I had figured it out.. I was super confused! lol. Im a 20 year old girlie with no experience with electricity whatsoever. I do have another question, does it matter where i cut the wires when adding the anl fuse in, or could i add them in where ever on the positive line?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 3 жыл бұрын
Nope can be anywhere in the line. Usiallly closer to the battery or inverter. Your call
@ramahibrothers4459
@ramahibrothers4459 3 жыл бұрын
well, a 4AWG WIRE can handle 100AMP up to 3M max ...your fuse is 200A it means your fuse is just a decoration the wire will burn and the fuse standstill :( well heres the equation wire size =load in amp X 1.50AMP fuse size=load in amp X 1.25AMP good luck
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 2 жыл бұрын
hence the title "test"
@heatherk8931
@heatherk8931 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ramahi, THAT'S the information I came for
@jamessanchez7614
@jamessanchez7614 2 жыл бұрын
slow down the camera, im dizzy
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 2 жыл бұрын
sorry , old video, learned alot about filming in the future.
@MegaBluecream
@MegaBluecream 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you connect the display wire too?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 5 жыл бұрын
the display wire is just a ground, it gets its power from the main line, so to the negative cable.
@MegaBluecream
@MegaBluecream 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration great thanks! What size anl fuse do I need for a 1000rms amp? The amp itself is 105 amps. 2 gauge wire
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 5 жыл бұрын
@@MegaBluecream 100 , but it depends on the peak load, my peak load on the inverter is 3000 watt, thus 300 amp fuse, the fuse rating is generally (watts/volts) x 1.25, example: lets say 1500 watts normal run usage, so 1500 divided by the volts (12v dc in my case) is 125, now x1.25 = 156.25 , I just use a 10:1 rule of thumb ratio so 100 watt 1 amp fuse etc.. so 3000 watt load on my peak is 300 amp, give or take a few. i tested it with a 150 on a 1500watt load and the moment it went over 1500 watts the fuse popped, so it calculates close enough for me.
@msichannelmy1130
@msichannelmy1130 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisEdwardsRestoration so the display is always on..even if u not turn on the engine/acc?
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration
@ChrisEdwardsRestoration 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Uses very little current to show battery voltage. Been running for years now. No issues
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