It's just a decision about a chainsaw. It's more telling that a person even has to bring this up. A tool is a tool. Use the one that does the job the best for you. Any stigma attached to a certain tool is attached by a person that is much too defensive emotionally and also much too worried about how they appear towards others.

I was literally about to say this. I wish more people had the guts to admit they were wrong about something, it takes humbleness and humility. Honestly, half the reason I watch this channel is for EC's character, imagine having him as a mentor growing up!

It's the world that changed. The electric engine has long been stronger and lighter and cleaner and requires less maintenance -- if you could get enough juice, which you couldn't (1500 Watts = 2 horsepower at 100% efficiency). Batteries used to suck, and now they're powerful for anything even a car.

Applefire give it a break. We're talking tools not psychology. Your comment is whats telling

i realize I am kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good website to watch newly released tv shows online?

I thought the lithium-ion battery inventor and pals won the nobel prize a few years ago

I'd go step further: The introduction of lithium-ion has to be the most underrated revolution in the 21st century so far. The fastest car money can buy...tesla. Battery powered airplane ?!? Even your cell phone ("a computer that can fit in a single room!")

@@kids123123123 don’t you mean a computer that fits in your pocket? The early mainframe computers would take up an entire room. By the 70s they were down to the size of a filing cabinet, and by1975 you could buy a hand held programable calculator with as much computing power as that late 60s mainframe.

And... brushless motors

Invest in batteries

This channel is awesome. hi from Brisbane..

Great content. Hello from Sydney.

G’day from the western downs! I’m an earthmoving operator/mechanic. I totally agree with you. These videos give me such a sense of pride in what I do and inspire me to get better as well as pass on my skills to a new generation.

I feel like there is a fair community of Aussies on this channel. Somebody even sent him a buckaroo belt. Those things aren't cheap and freight costs are horrifying. Anyway cheers from Sydney.

Cheers from south east vic👍🏻

bwilliamstown Those people are just plain dumb.

Unfortunately they are putting auto Oilers on them. Go through oil like my old 68 ford.

Yep, and B&C oil can still leak. Some things never change.

That is some good advice. Thank you 👍

And my Ryobi goes through it very quickly. Still happy with the saw though as it won't be getting heavy use to justify a gas saw.

I have owned a Husqvarna corded 16" saw for 20 years and its an amazing tool. It and a gas Stihl saw give great usefuleness.

Corded Makita UC3541A here. We have small garden, few trees. So far I think it was a very good choice.

Sounds like you have the right saw for your situation.

Agree. Corded are so reliable in certain scenarios. Would only get cordless if like he said you already have those tools (which also upgrade over time). Have a 14" corded electric but love love my cordless reciprocating saw w a wood or pruning blade.

@@treyhart6861 I'm triggered. I got the 18v Dewalt set, bought 2 new batteries after 6ish years now the 18v is a paperweight w the 20v the only real option if you want anything new. I don't think I can handle multiple types of batteries (psychologically) and am in paralysis on whether to switch and to what. Meanwhile my corded saws keep truckin' along. I'm doing a corded chainsaw for occasional use (cheap and lightweight), and a cordless reciprocating w obsolete batteries that match all my obsolete tools for frequent use 🙂

Agreed, the convenience is a huge selling point for me as a casual user. A pleasure to use vs a pain in the ass to use.

Agree wholeheartedly. The old 200t has virtually gone into retirement.

it's fine for lighter work, but lithium will NOT cut it for REAL work.

@@94SexyStang Yes they will. Just yesterday watched an arborist safely and easily cut down a huge tree (it took five hours) with battery powered saws. He owns several gas saws too, but didn't bother to even put them in the truck. Sure the small climbing saw batteries have to be swapped out/charged during the job. But that's easier, and cheaper, than working with two stroke gas.

Lucas, what kind of electric saw are you using? I assume a battery powered one.

I read this comment in your voice

My two favorite youtube channels on the same page?! Wow, life's good. My wife and I have been binging on Hydraulic Press Channel and Beyond the Press. Thanks for all the fun you bring Laury and Anni!

I really love the internet some days ❤️

great to see you here, and on AVE

I was going to say you used that Makita one and it seemed to cut just fine. The battery and motor technology just had to catch up. Technology marches on but I am not going to toss out me Stihl and Husqvarna saws just yet. When they die from natural causes I will consider electric at that time.

and sometimes not because he figured out some principles.

Like gay marraige and communism ❤

Depends on the change. Not all changes are as positive as they get sold as and too many are actual steps back due to unrealistic and or outrightly stupid counterproductive regulations being placed on them.

@@tcmtech7515 I might have to retire my Crosscut Saw, I never knew there were easier ways out there!

@@Brennan009 HAHA

mcculloch made karting motors, similar to the chainsaw version

2 stroke bikes sound way different tho since they have the exhaust bit(I don't know it's English name) that is meant to reflect the exhaust shock-wave back in in to the cylinder just as it closes thus improving power in the rpm range around the power band, that thing is what gives 2 stroke bikes the characteristic tinny sound. They don't put them on production chainsaws because they would take up too much space and it would be a burn hazard.

I bought an electric mower too. Now I mow every chance I get.

I agree on the electric lawn mower. The advent of brushless DC electric has allowed for equipment to become more reliable and more powerful and more compact. The ability to apply so much torque through a mower blade means you don’t have over speed it to prevent it from stalling out when it encounters a load.

Add the weed whacker and you're set!

In the city, electric mowers are particularly nice in the middle of the summer. Quiet enough to get up early and beat the heat: easier on the grass and easier on the person pushing the mower. Unless the lawn is still wet with dew. Then at least you're up early enough to get a start on making iced tea.

I recommend electric garden tools to all my friends, mostly because I don't want to help fix them because they didn't maintain them. At least there is less maintenance to deal with.

Wow! Yeah, good point!

Cordless disc cutters have water suppression.

It's not like the electronics sits in the saw-blade. Husqvarna at least has a big range of electric masonry-saws, tile-saws, power-cutters and even a floor saw , all of which support either water suppression and/or dry cutting with vacuum connection.

@@krakenhackenla I know. I'm talking about the ones powered by electricity, not petrol.

@@evocarti so am I, DeWalt, Milwaukee, Stihl, husqvarna all make battery powered cutters that have a water feed. You can buy 110v cutters with water feed. Angle grinders as far as I know don't have dust suppression via water.

My first flying hours ever were in a Quicksilver MX! I miss that bird...

Agreed!

and you can use it with a generator ...

@@--973-- what size? I have a midsize inverter I figured to use attached to my truck in lieu of a proper generator. Turned out it didn't like 15 amp 7" grinder, but ran the 11 amp 5" fine. Overall point is to check before you need it.

@@emeltea33 thank you for the feedback. I used 7" grinder and a welding station on a 6500w generator but I use my truck only to carry all that stuff.

@@--973-- Wow, that's a good size, and if you can run the welding station, the chainsaw would be no problem. And that it's on your truck is even better, because you won't need a longer cord, just drive closer. I just need a bigger invertor if I stick with that game plan. I'm afraid I'd let the generator sit too long.

wonderfully honest, thanks

used a bosch pocket saw with pruning blade last year for that job

As I read this, I could picture Clark Griswold staring up at his beautifully oversized tree while Rusty asks him, "Dad, did you bring a saw?" and that big root ball hanging off the back of the car. Glad you updated your tradition!

@@thejackal3245 We get a 14' tree every year, horseback and snowshoe in and out. But 1 year I took the time to put it on top of the car, for a Griswold photo op! Also have an ugly Christmas sweater that's says, Merry Christmas! Shitter was full!

@@timcorbett9629 It's a beaut, Clark! You seriously made my day thinking about that.

We just got one a few months ago to help keep the trails clear on our 160 acres in central KY. Great tool!

I cut up a fallen 70' cherry tree with my neighbors kobalt 80v. Very impressive tool.

I had same youth. Love that sound. Love fall.

I can't agree with you more I bought my cordless chainsaw to use cutting up small trees and limbs that fall on the driveway after a storm so easy to grab it cut up the culprit blocking the drive and get on with my day.

I have the Ryobi cordless and love it! The only problem I've had with it is the bar oil leaks, but thats literally it!

@@robmonster45 Yup, love mine and did a lot of weekends this summer and fall. The big saw hardly ever came out. Mostly pine but some fallen oak.

Absolutely right. The big guys know their business, they'll work much safer than I ever could.

Eh you can take down damn near anything with an 18" bar. Taking trees down safely is really not hard so long as you are in a forested area and not a suburban lot.

Bars that long are the norm in the Pacific Northwest the trees are usually larger then the b role of the guy wearing the chaps in this video and when cutting firewood don’t have to bend over, but yeah the point can be made a lot easier to get the bar in the dirt on the other side of a round

Scott was also a professional logger for many years. The long bar makes life a lot easier if you're felling trees all day, even if the trees aren't that big. Cleaning up the yard, go with the cordless all day. I love a big saw...til it's time to sharpen

Get it today!

Gotta do it, man. Owning a chainsaw is life-altering. The amount of power and ability to commit absolute mayhem that you can hold in one hand is shocking.

I use my electric (plug in) inside the house for all sorts of cutting jobs meant for different saws :) it is so fast and easy....

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I may be interested in your John Deere saw. Has it sold yet? If not perhaps you could put it online and send me the link back here?

Greg Stoll yeah a lot of these lesser known brands have great prices for electric chainsaws. I want one for side jobs. It can just sit in my apartment. Also want a manual pole saw.

@@TreDogOfficial ive got a manual pole saw and a milwaukee electric one, its the quiklok (Can switch the head over to polesaw, weedeater, edger etc) and ill tell ya what, its worth every friggen penny, go with the electric if you can, also, Milwaukee batteries last longer than you will and charge in like 45 min (And thats a 9.0 or 12.0 amp-hr

I bought the 18" Ego chainsaw a couple months ago. Their smaller chainsaws have horrible reviews, something about loosing tension but they fixed that issue in the 18" bar model. I have a big parcel with lots of black oaks and pines and so far it has performed excellent. It's quiet, lighter and it has plenty of power.

@@MrJramirex There 14inch saw is decent been wanting to try the 18inch one. I sold all my gas chainsaws the vibration kills me since I had a partial thumb amputation.

You mean echo? Ego sucks

Good for you. But AvE did a test of one of and its chainbar winder will fail. Too much plastic.

@@xoxo2008oxox yeah, I saw the video. He's spot on. I'll end up modifying in eventually but it works decent for the meantime

@@xoxo2008oxox I have one and so far the only issue was the screw holding washer to sprocket came loose. I don't like that design, but it's handy little saw.

Did you mean to repeat yourself a few times at the end there?

I've used a large selection of saws, conventional and electric, and I really must disagree about endurance... none of them will cut anything like a half day. Even doing actual tree trimming ect as a one man team (so your stopping to feed the chipper rather than constantly working) there is simply no way to rotate between even a pair of batteries to keep any cordless tool bigger than a screwdriver actually working all day, even wearing a >8kg backpack worth almost $1,500aud (for local currency may differ) and having cables running down your arms to get caught up on things (it doesn't sound heavy/problematic till you've tried moving with it for a few hours at a time and realize while its very lightweight vs a hiking backpack you don't actually bend to pick things up/throw your weight around to move things in that context, much less try to climb a tree). IMO an amazing solution for brushcutters where you walk around cleared grass and work exclusively from standing position, but a bit dubious for chainsaws. As for if you get the cost back in "energy savings", firstly consider your cost of capital, if your saving up for a saw or borrowing credit, every dollar invested needs to work pretty hard, otherwise you'd save more money somewhere else (be that directly as fuel, like a new motor in the work truck, or as labor, like a power finger crane on the tray... your investment isn't competing with break even, its competing with best other place you could invest the money). Secondly to be doing that much cutting your needing to charge the tool batteries at the worksite, and not to be using a portable generator, by which point the serious question becomes if a corded tool might actually be a better bet for the majority of your saw hours. Likewise you need to factor the source of charge into payback time for electric vs gas, as unless that charge source is national grid mains power, the larger batteries, solar and chargers/regulators can be worth several times the total purchase price of the gas (or even electric) saw itself. If using solar you also need to consider what you do when weather is less co-operative (which includes things like dust/smoke that don't seem to darken the day much, but drop solar to a fraction) or when working under a forest canopy. Fuel might not fall out of the sky, but containing tens of times the energy per weight/volume means that storage/transport even for a weeks worth of portable tool use (anything but vehicles or generators really) is a non-binding concern, and fuel stations to fill them are one of the more common stores on the planet, so unless your packing weeks of food for some kind of expedition, access likely isn't the issue. Finally while certainly less annoying than a petrol powered saw, electric chainsaws are still far from quiet tools, they are well up into the hearing protection required range (and indeed are often your second loudest behind petrol chain saws, slightly ahead of impact guns or circular saws), so for work where you can't be loud (like outside ordinance hours, or tree trimming for luxury applications like resorts/hotels, in wildlife sensitive areas ect) they aren't generally permissible. Worse the ferrous bar/teeth means the electric devices aren't sparkless, meaning that you can't even use them in places where fire limitations would prevent petrol saws, and the bar lubrication means they can't be used in situations where not leaking oil/leaving marks could differentiate. So there really isn't a niche where being combustion-less would let you earn more money to try payback higher purchase prices. Hence when all is said and done I do not feel we have reached a point by which cordless electric chainsaws will be "cheaper" for users.... there are still other reasons you might opt to pay more to have them (as I mentioned, I own and use both), and the value they offer is improving with time, but spending less on fuel just isn't a huge factor for such small tool motors that are so closely tied to labor expense in the way it is for a car or heavy equipment operator.

​@@SheepInACart i'd guess that an electric chainsaw over 5 years will be cheaper due to gas+oil and maintenance. imagine 5 years without needing to head to a small motor shop to get your carb rebuilt. sure the batteries are more expensive but it's cheaper to refill than gas+oil. it cost me 12.9¢ (us) to charge my 8ah battery. i get 45-60 minutes use in my weed eater. ethanol free gas is 2.15$ per gallon plus 15$ for 2 cycle oil cost 3.22$ per 28oz (average Stihl weed eater professional fuel capacity) fill up. Then there's time. time to refill the gas can, mix the fuel/oil. fill weed eater, plunge the gas to prime it, crank, crank, crank. get it warmed up. or, place the battery in a charger, the battery charged over night, you place the battery in the slot, pull the trigger and it works. - I had a problem with one gas trimmer that the carb was messed up. it could only run on full and only for 20 minutes before dying. then i had to wait 40 or so minutes for it to cool but it would only run for 15 minutes. rinse and repeat. the carb cleaning kit was 36$. i didn't fix it because i bought the electric. Milwaukee has a 3600/1800w battery generator which can be used to charge batteries at a worse case. now all these batteries can have other uses too. milwaukee has plenty of tools, lights, etc that can be used. your 2 cycle 50:1 gas can be used in a generator but at 17$ a gallon (gas plus oil) you wont be doing that for very long. odds are if you need a chainsaw in a spark free environment then you'll use hydraulic. unless you work at a chemical plant that shouldn't ever be an issue. neither are perfect right now but batteries will get better while gas will stay steady.

@@jetah50 For an application where your burning enough fuel to make up the difference in price, a 4stroke was already the preferred option, which can need neither oil mixing nor in heavy use applications present any issue with regular pump fuels that contain up to 15% ethanol. Just as with your comment on priming, starting ect, those are problems that exist for both lighter duty and/or less frequent used equipment, but just aren't factors for a saw which is used daily, much less still has a hot motor after a brief fuel and chain-bar oil stop (the latter of which electric saws still need, and just as frequently, so its only the actual time pouring the fuel saved between the two). Maintenance wise I own both, but have never taken either type of saw to a shop outside of the run in period when new, and don't generally buy rebuild kits or new gaskets when infrequently required to actually maintain carbs (its only a couple of psi pressure in a non-safety critical application, not a fuel rail on a modern vehicle, so reuse with huff of contact gasket adhesive has always worked out well for me... also some of the newest pro line saws are fuel injected which may not demand the same attention), but even assuming thats outside of whats possible in your use case, and you need a couple of rebuild kits and new plugs in addition to the engine oil, that stuff sums to only 10% or so the purchase price of a decent professional or landholder saw, meanwhile the higher duty cycle cordless electric tools are still around double, so its IMO a very minor factor when deciding the breakeven point between the two. Also both sides are evolving technologically as we see the catchup between features normal for transportation engines and whats been applied to portable equipment (hence again fuel injection, electronic ignition etc all hitting mainstream market in last 12months), rather than batteries innovating compared to a fixed point fuel powered tools have somehow plateaued. But again I'm not saying fuel driven equipment is somehow universally better, its not, merely that it remains more cost economical than cordless for most heavy users at the present time... also in that vain it should be noted that corded electric saws are still cheaper than either, even if being tethered to a wall socket limits them to a few niche applications.

​@@SheepInACart gas is at the end of it's lifespan. you wont see a new tech emerge that offers 4x improvement but that will happen with batteries. corded electric has the problem of needing the correct size cord or you lose amps the further out you venture. most home owners wont have a 10g or larger extension cord for the 100 ft they plan to use the saw.

Another thing about Stihl -- they positively DO NOT recommend drop starting your gas powered chain saw. It's dangerous and manly, and an old dog like Scott will continue to do it. But you young bucks, don t adopt that unsafe habit. Yeah, I know, "Safety Sally"... blah blah blah blah...

@@DanielinLaTuna ah ha, yep, I took a saw into a Pro saw shop (his home), with a badly scoared cylinder, the shop owner drop started it as you call it, and it fired up. He then proceeded to help me order parts and I rebuilt it.. Also after watching an Airforce lady try to start her saw, I finally could not take her pain any more and went and started it for her. Like a brand new saw, but the Airforce taught her not to drop start. Guess I was a bad boy but....it started right up, thats all I ever knew, if I did not get the old saw started on the farm, as a young lad, we were cold... to me , it was just starting the saw. Safety is a way of life , not some idea by a lawyer in a multilanguage operators manual. Professional..

J W well then you’re lucky. They might, I’m just telling you I read it on the box that they are not rated for that. I do believe it’s better than nothing tho. From stihl: WARNING FOR ELECTRIC CHAINSAW USERS! The fibers will not stop the sprocket on most electric chainsaws because of their constant high torque. WARNING FOR CORDED ELECTRIC AND BATTERY CHAINSAW USERS! The fibers may not stop the sprocket on most corded electric chainsaws and some battery-powered chainsaws because of the constant high torque. However, to reduce the severity of injury from accidental contact with the chain, STIHL recommends that leg protection be worn when operating these types of chainsaws.

@@johnkomosa4089 yeah, I still have my 30 plus year old Stihl too. Starts every time; that's why I bought it. After watching my buddy struggle with his Homelite I decided to pay more for a product that was being advertised on the telly by having it dragged behind a pickup truck down a dirt road, then started on the first pull. Remember that commercial?

Motorbikes are having the same problem :-)

I buy premixed Sunoco 2 stroke gas because it’s shelf stable.

@Sam K You clearly don't use a chainsaw enough if you haven't spilled bar oil. Lol

@@RadDadisRad I find equipment runs like crap on those fuels like Aspen for example and they're about 10x more expensive then mixing.

Wr Tr GFI with expandable or bubble covers. Some people are smart and have added these under their eaves, no extension cord needed for those lights on the gutters.

DON'T waste your time with CAT5, or even CAT6.... CAT5 is pushing 25 years old.. CAT6A is the lowest spec you should spend your time on.. CAT7 is the newer spec, not much pricier than 6... CAT8 is the new kid on the block... Still pricey, and demands meticulous installs, with proper terminations and keystones, using the proper tools...else you lose all the speed advantage...

That is amazing. I have 100 questions. Dirtbike or road? Runtime? What will the batteries be like after a year or 2 or even 5? Speed? Power? Sound? Price? Those r the main ones thanks

John MURRAY COMPTON whoa. Just got a head rush.

@@1Rangers08 lol!

@@loadapish it's a Zero FXS. Style is a supermoto (dirtbike with street wheels and tires). It's unlike ANYTHING I've ridden. Has the agility of a featherweight dirtbike but pulls like a 1,000cc sporty. Range and top speed are it's downfall. Range depends on how fast you ride. If take it on the interstate and ride at 70mph you'll probably get 50 miles. With stop and go city driving you're looking at 100 miles. No transmission...and no clutch! It takes some getting used to. By the way, when I say it pulls like a liter bike, I mean it. The lack of shifting is an odd but crazy fun experience. The best I can explain it is it feels like when you take a flight and the jet takes off. It just pulls continuously thrusting you back. It's really amazing.

@@loadapish top speed is about 100 mph. Sound is like something out of Star Wars.

Sweet. Post videos please.

Only an idiot uses a chainsaw on a ladder

Paul Waclawski we all can’t buy a bucket truck. Usually I tie off on a tree but small ones alone you got no choice but to limb it and work your way down.

At the same time they are great for limbing, awful for bucking though. They overheat and can only handle so many cuts.

Mostly true on limbing. They still have a huge weight balance issue.

Great point.

If you already own a good sawzall and just have to prune a few branches a couple of times a year, I totally agree that it's ridiculous to go out and buy an electric chainsaw. I just literally threw a DeWalt electric saw away because it was the cheesiest cordless tool I ever purchased. Both the blade and extremely thin bar were damaged the first time I got it pinched in a small tree (Yeah, it was totally my fault) whereas my two Stihl gas saws have endured the same situation more times than I'd care to admit with no damage whatsoever. Additionally, the DeWalt electric leaked chain oil in unbelievable amounts. So save your money and buy a few quality Sawzall blades from Diablo or Milwaukee. Happy cutting.

I still run one around the house.. mine leaks bar oil :-)

I was thinking the same thing. Must be Nate’s backlog 😝

I was taught that you put the saw down on a stable surface to start it too, not just pull the cord in mid air like he is doing.

Even if it isn't cheaper. It knocks off 4 consumables and you don't have to worry about a gas spill stinking up the place.