YESSS i was surprised about that but i am all for it

TRUTH

@@AmandaTodhunterOfficial Have you read Monster High books they are so good I loved all of them and i'am going to get all the books🦄🐺🦊🐐🦒🦙🐫

Based?

@@domenicavallone28 "A word used when you agree with something; or when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous and unique or not caring what others think" :)

yeah ikr

YOOOO that’s such a sick ass parallel and the writers probably didn’t even plan that

I thought it was interesting because Snow White is supposed to go to the wishing well and wish and Apple just- Weeeeeeeee 😂😂

How so?

Yah

If that is true, then it may be possible that the wonderland characters may be able to break the 4th wall as well

@@charliesnoopy1293 maybe? I mean, not break it, since in EVA it's a literal physical wall, but maybe they could go through it or something

I love the wonderland characters so much, and this makes me like them even more! It makes sense

Ayo Little Misfortune?

Lizzy Hearts can’t hear it, but Kitty can. I have no idea why.

this makes so much sense, thank you

Well now I feel dumb

That makes so much sense!!!

My thoughts on Daisy Duck in Duck tales. It's not wierd if she gets together with Donald. They're both just called Smith

How to separate the two? Simple We have the ‘black smiths’ And the ‘white smiths’ I’m so sorry I’ll see myse;f out

Poor girls they're literally called Pretty and Ugly

I think it’s included in the Once Upon a Time collection? I’m sure I’ve read it somewhere

Their story is so tragic!

@@runawaythoughts5183 what's the story? 🥺

@@lorenacuenca6250 Bella sister is pretty but has an ugly personality and is followed around by flies & wasps, Brutta sister is "ugly" but has a beautiful personality & is followed around by cute little butterflies so people like her more which makes Bella jealous. One day the sisters were taking a walk by a pond and Bella attempted to kill Brutta by pushing her in the water to drown her, however Brutta's butterflies drowned before she did and their ghosts saved her and then then drowned Bella instead.

Yeah

True. I find it kind of strange because in the show there ARE moments that do show apple as a good person (she does do acts of service and she cares about the well being of her kingdom) but overall it does feel like she’s the way more selfish one. Man this is why I want a reboot.

⁠@@hendersierra111it always fascinates me that people see Apple as the selfish one. Raven refused to sign the book without knowing whether or not it would cause the end of the world.That’s not even an exaggeration. Apple wanted her to bite the bullet and just sign so that the world wouldn’t cease to exist. Her being hung up on that isn’t selfish. Apple was willing to take some trauma herself, being chased out of home, poisoned, and then immediately take on the role of queen. That’s still a traumatic thing. I have a theory that it’s because people relate more to the outcast instead of the popular girl.

​@@alwaysrootingfortheantihero123 also Apple was basically brainwashed since birth to believe that everyone signing the book would be beneficial.

Exactly what happened to me too. I’m fully back now 🥲

I love your pfp!

@@ryujinstan3553 thank u!! Vi from arcane is a bad bitch nd I love her. I also had the same pfp as urs a while ago

Also the dorming situation. Raven makes it clear she always dorms with Maddie. And Apple says how she used to dorm with Briar.

i believe there's 4 years because legacy day has all the students gathered, and it says first years are excited while the third and fourth years are smug

@@stephaniezhang9600 (this is based on the show, because it makes some sense with the ages) something that I have considered, after Ashlynn, who is apparently 14, had signed the Storybook of Legends dispite her friends being 15 or 16 and haven't signed, is that maybe different stories have different school starting years. To me, if the characters are in their 2nd year (the wiki says so) and somehow Ashlynn has signed it already, she might be a 3rd year because she is a child in the beginning of her story and it's an important part that she is a year younger when her mother "dies" and a year later, her father remarried. Therefore, she might need to be in the story for a year longer than the step-sisters, so to make sure that, even if the step-sisters are the same age as that gens Cinderella, she will still be able to get in the story before the step-sisters. Extra thing! I think that if a child is born in the story, they will be created by magic within the storyline. If there is a non-important child character in the story, they are not real, just a magical child because you can't really throw a random child into a story and expect them to behave correctly. So, if you are born within the story (and even if you grew up) you just pop into the world at whatever age you end up being in the story, but with the knowledge that you are in a story since they can't do anything within the story. I have overanalysed this story quite a bit, so pls excuse the long comment, lol

​@@reeree8981 actually in apple's diary, it's explains why did they change.

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O. O

I just realized mga kinda stole the name shadow high from mattel

@@shellsina4997 HELL NAH

Cupid knows about the existence of both worlds, but she’s not supposed to tell anybody on either side about the other. I nearly wrote a crossover fic, similar to Shadow High, where a group of characters got transported across the border and Cupid was the only one who knew what was going on but it never ended up happening. I think I really just wanted to see Lizzie yell “Off with her head!” in front of Ms Bloodgood and she casually takes her head off and keeps talking because that’s just so normal to her but all the Ever After characters are freaking out

@@yourlocaldemon2195 he'll yah

@@emilyhouse2498 That Lizzy-bloodgood interaction is top tier

i read that last night and nearly woke my family up, that line came out of nowhere and was so hilarious

“NOT MY CABBAGES!”

@@samuelhuff3427 EAH child of the Cabbage Man when

MY CABBAGES!!!!!!!!!!

Trueeee

That would be interesting, but isn’t the good king supposed to be Apple’s dad?

@@user-zk1fk5wf3t Not in their story it switches every generation in apple and raven’s story they wouldn’t have been related in their version

@@zoemontes6957 can you expand on that? i’m confused

@@mintfroggi506 Basically the story changes for each generation and it’s described in the books as basically them taking on a role in the play so raven and apple are not related there’s always a prince picked to be the good king for the story

I remember reading somewhere that the names of the Charmings are in alphabetical order based on their parents

Shannon Hale’s other books she wrote before this series were the perfect portfolio for her to get hired by Mattel.

Well, to be fair, the writers would probably write something pretty tight and then Mattel would come in and say "We need to sell more dolls, add a costume change to this." Or " We need to sell more toys, add in cute little dragon pets!" and then the writers would have to scramble to add in stuff they hadn't planned on and make it all work.

@@eshbena yeah, that could be the case

Yeah that was pretty hilarious

there's also lady yaga lmao (lady gaga and she's related to baba yaga)

WAIT, REALLY? WHICH BOOK?

@@saffronrichards3940 storybook of legends! (that's the name of the actual book)

@@saffronrichards3940 Truth or Hair I believe

I….

LMAO I CANT-

THIS IS SO FUNNY OMG

I mean in the original Sleeping Beauty story she was literally r**** by the prince while still being asleep so-

JAIIILLL!!!!

That or the first boy/girl if the story called for it

Yeah, that's shown with Holly and Poppy!

It's also shown with Briar that the gender is in stone, as her mother had boys but kept going until they got a girl!

​@@kayleeholder5755 Which brings up an interesting point for stories where the gender doesnt influence the story. Mostly the Wonderlandians i think? Almost none of them align, but that's not really treated as a problem

@@kayleeholder5755 I know this is super late, but I just realize that also could not be true since the son of Alice from wonderland is also faded to be the next Alice?

That makes sense as to why Raven’s legacy looked so horrific and nobody was questioning why she didn’t want to sign.

I was wondering about that because Apple saw Daring in the vision the book gave her but it was Darling who saved her And he turned out to be the Beast… I wonder if the book shows what you think your destiny is because it wasn’t the real story book of legends? I mean wasn’t the real one hidden by the evil queen? Maybe the spell put on the fake one only allowed it to show what the person thought they’re destiny was

I loved the graphic novel!

This is how I learned there's a graphic novel 😭

I agree

yeah it's usually the first born with the exception of the Charming family (and other undescriptive prince/princess families too) because there's always a need for a prince/princess in a story

It usually is however they’re are exceptions like in duchess swan’s case her younger sister has odette’s destiny and she has odelia’s

@@zoemontes6957 wait duchess has a younger sister??

@@nemashan3701 Apparently on the wiki she’s mentioned and in the art for the year book dolls she’s there along with other unused characters

Though remember that Snow White is ADAMANT about Apple following her destiny, keeping up the tradition, being queen, so I would say that Apple choosing to essentially sign her mothers death warrant, isn't nessecarily to do with her being power hungry/self centered or anything, and she probably feels she has no choice otherwise she will be letting down her family. Potentially her mother may have lied about the fate too, perhaps just that she goes off somewhere else for a while, and not that she dies. Because her mother would have had to face her mothers (apples grandmothers) death, and apples grandmother would have faced her mothers death, and so on, perhaps its seen as a rite of passage. Basically I don't think we can remove Apple from the context of her family when judging her on the decision to sign the book.

I do know that EAH is basing their stories off of the original Grimms Brother stuff (Giles and Miles ofc), so the Cinderella version involves cutting off part of a foot so the stepsisters can fit in the glass slipper and their eyes being poked out by birds. Snow White, the Evil Queen danced to death in red hot shoes. Sleeping Beauty, was r4ped in her sleep. Little Mermaid. Walking with feet is like walking on knives, it's painful. Plus, murdering her prince but killed herself. Since they are omitted bc EAH was marketed for kids, imagine if they were the actual legacies the students will have to follow.

Also the men in both stories will basically be _forced_ to marry a evil woman who they _know_ is going to abuse their children, after their one true love _dies._ The they will die and leave their daughters to the women they know are evil without seeing their happy ending. That’s pretty traumatic

@@conniedoesexist1807 yo sleeping beauty was WHAT?!

@@emiliereal1520 yeah you read that right some drunk king went to her castle, saw sleeping beauty, went "oh she's beautiful imma seggs," then left, the baby was birthed throughout the 100 years, when sleeping beauty (and the castle) woke up they were wondering whose baby that is (well, the father) so uh yeah

I have them and their so good I Love her whole series

Honestly I remember reading the Ever After High Series and then finding the Goose Girl series and realizing how large of a sub genre fairytale retellings are! True child hood though!💗📚

THANK YOU!! to this day goose girl is one of my favorite books, shannon hale was my favorite author growing up

You should definitely read Rapunzel's Revenge.

Yeah, in Cinderella 3 she was a good person, just forced into doing what her mother wanted. Though as far as I remember, Drizella got turned into a rat?

like how is there the step aunt and the step sisters unless the aunt is tremaine or something ang the step sisters and anastasia and drizella - Unless they are from another generation

Well ever after high isnt connected to disney so-

@@rynorjamandre5934 You're right. I completely forgot about that when I wrote this

the disney canon isn't linked at all to ever after high so nope, sorry

Thats a great way to get through a psych ward stay

Do what you gotta do

Honestly, I would have loved to read those notes

when i was super stressed and recovering from a lockdown related mental health breakdown + burnout, i binged 7 seasons of my little pony AND watched all of sofia the first and let me tell you it helped me so much. i think it’s the way that it allows you to immerse yourself in a fantasy world without the expectation of real world pains. esp since it’s a kids show bc then you can watch something very lighthearted and fun.

Slay king

YESSSSS

Literally though

See I see it as she couldn’t. Since she was able to travel between those worlds she could be on the same level as the narrators, a different type of being, especially since I believe she is the daughter of a Greek god it would make sense for a higher being to not be allowed to talk about the other worlds. Could cause chaos.

So true! Honestly when I read the book I was super upset that Cupid wasn't apart of it but other than that I did really enjoy it, but it honestly made me wonder if Maddie and kitty can hear narrator's (we already know they know about MH) could they possibly gain the ability to travel through universe's since their from wonderland?

Wait, so Hopper and Ginger are canon? I was hoping for him and Briar😞

@@autumnrose9655 No, it’s not actually canon technically. It’s never even brought up again besides in that one book, so I don’t think you have to worry about it

Yes! Finally someone who acknowledge those books! I used to read them all the time and simply loved how they portrait minor characters. I just wish more people talk about those "spin-offs".

Next top villain made me ship Lizzie and Daring more, even though Daring cheated on Lizzie, it's honestly my favourite.

Yeah I love these!

I saw the same theory from foreverskysthelimit and I had that idea that they might have been swapped as children after watching the webisode when Apple talks to her magical mirror asking if she is the fairest of the school. Usually, an Evil Queen would ask a question like that but when I saw the video, that was when I begun to think about it and when I watched foreverskysthelimit, I think that this is canon but I’m sure that it will never be.

The only reason I don't believe this theory is because in the books it's specifically said that it's scary how much Raven and the Evil Queen look alike

@@Cat-xw8lv i thin kits common to say in EAH universe but i think she only said that because the phrase is significant to her story

идиотская теория

@@Cat-xw8lv this? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7B9dpSYvKe5j5s.html

And ngl, it might fit since there are a lot of renditions of fairy tales that aren't true to the original too. Even contemporary ones.

man- we’re besties now I’m Caspar he/him I’m a dude who’s also into EAH and Monster High

dude same I made an EAH oc fanfic lol

same king,,, why were no other guys into this stuff it was so good

I'm a guy and I was super into both

I made so many ocs lmao

dead

@@PinkFrog5 thx

LITERALLY

i mean i figured that the christening happened when she was an infant, that one fairy was left out like in the original tale, and then after briar signs the book. she'll go home, get her finger stabbed, and conk out for the next 100 years

It brings up other points as wel for me. Like Alistair as Alice should have fulfilled his story already? Not only does the story take place when Alice is young, but a major point of the story is exploring Wonderland? How does that work when he basically lives there?

​@@Sammy_The_Umbreonallistair doesnt need a destiny, he and bunny went to wonderland high school, they dont need it, maddie lizzie and others are in ever after just because evil queen went mad

Love the scene except I don’t think she went to EAH on accident. The show made it seem like it was purposely done.

@@totallytorivideos1668 💜💜💜 thanks! And you’re totally right! She did step through it intentionally! I had forgotten until you just mentioned it!

I thought it was interesting that the evil queen was blonde 👱‍♀️

Technically the big bad wolf its in both stories, little red riding hood and the three little pigs, so Ramona should do 2 stories just as hunter has to do 2, snow white and little red riding hood, so yeah some of the stories are connected by the characters, its messy :v

I think your right but I also think it only applies to certain types of characters. Like charming, they are all prince/princesses. And the prince in lots of stories aren’t exactly named. They are just “the prince”.

As someone who's read them multiple times I highly recommend!

@@outokana2632 nice to know!!

if the problem of you not being able to read them is not having a copy, i might know a link to a gdrive containing pdf versions of the books 👀👀👀

@@lissyanne3885 libgen also has them for free!

@@lissyanne3885 omg can you pass me the links pls 🙏🏻

Seconded, Arcane is very good. You don't need any LoL lore to get into it, the plot is great, there's a hell of a lot of angst with good comfort moments interspersed, soundtrack is *chefs kiss*.

*coughs quietly and slides you a $20* where might i find this fanfiction of yours, if it does exist?

The link, please 🥺

Link bro, pliz

Pleeease a link

Honestly I LOVE that theory, that honestly is my headcanon. If not then it would make a great AU - it explains a lot of things for sure.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h7B9dpSYvKe5j5s.html Foreverskysthelimit is the author, I think. It's on KZfaq.

Well shit you might be onto something. Cause if her part was multiple pages they would have her sign at the end not on the first page. I wonder if it’s apple’s page since they are the story?

That’s what I’ve been thinking 💭

Lol yep

thanks to yall 🥰

That could be true however Apple’s dad is probably a blonde

@@lisablue9590 If her mom has black hair and her dad is blond, she'd have brown hair.

@@TuesdaysArt hmm well actually it would be a mixture of both if their hair types but Eah isn’t really that realistic with how they do hair genetics otherwise things would be different.