Hey guys so little mention here, there is an editing mistake in the beginning of layer 2 (with the Kendal audio in the back) my apologies I caught this after uploading and it was supposed to be used for something but I took it out, failing to check if I took out the audio. I would fix it, BUT this video took way too long to upload since it’s over an hour. Hope it’s not TOO bothersome. EDIT: Some of you all have been asking for the link to the stop motion short Thunder High, here it is: www.bixpix.com/mattel Hope you all enjoy 😁💕

Unpopular Opinion: The switched at birth theory for Raven and Apple devalues both of their characters and personal story. Wasn't the whole point that you didn't have to be like your parents? I hate the idea of Raven being "naturally good" and her rebellious nature covered up so she can be the "Perfect Princess" and all of Apple's negative traits just being cause she was secretly "Evil" and that there was nothing wrong with how she was raised to make her believe what she believes. Like Raven not wanting to be evil like her mother and wanting to be accepted for the kind, yet sarcastic person she is without dealing with people hating her for something she can't control. Apple's fear of the unknown gives her anxiety about the future if no one signs the book. Headmaster Grimm preys on those anxieties. We see that in the show and in the books. Let's not pretend she had no real concerns here.

Gotta say, I LOVE the concept of Duchess secretly being The Black Swan's kid.

I like to head cannon that the reason Daring shows up in the book at the beginning is because since it's a fake, he's there because everyone *expects* him to be Apple's prince.

Another thing I kinda never understood about EAH is about Ashlynn. The stories they use are based of the original Grimm stories so that would mean that in EAH Cinderella's name is actually Cinderella its just "Ella". She called Cinderella by her step sisters. Obviously Ashlynn's name is based on Cinderella's but from a narrative standpoint it doesn't make sense why Cinderella would name her only child after that part of her trauma, so I headcanon that Ashlynn's "original name" was actaully just Lynn and that her step cousins called her Ashlynn like her mom and it just stuck because of her destiny. Also it would make sense cause she's kind of a Rebel, so maybe along the line of the series she would just have all her friends call her "Lynn" as a way to reclaim her identity. Anyways sorry for the rant. Thanks for the video 💙

My unpopular opinion about Apple is that you can acknowledge that she is really well written and still dislike her as a person. She just doesn’t vibe with be. But on another note, great video! I am amazed that I knew that much already, but I was a huge fan after all. I had all the base outfits (I think), and exactly 1 special doll, which was the horribly expensive Cerise Wolf comic con doll. She was my absolute favorite, so she was the only one I got 2 copies of. I still have all my 30 dolls and the lack of quality on the last ones is just sad

I miss EAH so much, but I never thought I needed to watch an EAH iceberg video. Yet, here I am. Great job on this video!

Headmaster grime should've been jailed, how did his brother forgive him after getting cursed to stay under the school💀

I’ve waited my whole life for someone to make a video like this. MY WHOLE LIFE.

48:49 The Evil Queen's letter is actually really sweet imo

About cupid and the whole eros x psyche thing, i think since the gods are immortal beings, they don’t need to make their kids follow their legacies, that’s why except for cupid we don’t have the children of any god in ever after high

Despite Ramona being in a 'soft reboot', I think that her story in the show is very well explained. She went to reform school, and if she truly is the daughter of the Big Bad Wolf while Cerise is the daughter of Little Red Riding Hood, they'd have each other to fall back on for their destiny (should they play it out).

The thronecoming queen results is really weird. Because I know *for a fact* the official KZfaq channel uploaded HD, full sound videos for EVERY country in the right language

8:36 I still have the yearbook!! A clerk at my scholastic book fair all the way back in elementary recommended i buy this book and will forever thank that clerk at the fair. As for the website, there was a game on there i really liked since it represented the way to wonderland arc in ever after high.

The books were so dark and good

I'm so gutted EAH ended i would have loved a Movie/Doll Line where they go to Underwater Palace with Meeshell Mermaid and they all get turned into mermaids by Raven's magic or something and they meet Meshells parents and the Sea Witch and the Seawitch's daughter Coral this would have been so amazing to see like characters having the tails like there outfits like Darling having a Armour tail and Rosabella having a tail covered in Roses and Kitty having a Catfish tail lol sooo much could have been done it makes me sad and the doll line would have been fabulous

Here is my defense of Apple White. Obviously, I think she is in the wrong, but I am a huge Apple sympathizer. First and foremost, their Legacy Year is their second year of highschool. Nearly everyone is fifteen. Weak point, but I'll see people who are mad at Apple and just think "She is fifteen. She's allowed to be selfish." Speaking of, next point. She thinks everyone's lives are in danger. We are outside perspectives, so naturally most people are rebels. Up until recently, I too classified myself as a rebel. But think about having to say the pledge of allegiance everyday, or standing up to the national anthem. Everyone in Book End has grown up with propaganda saying if they don't sign the book, they're gone. They cease to exist. It's like catholic guilt. If everyday from the day I was born I was told I was damned to hell if I didn't sign a book at fifteen, I'd sign the book! And while I whole heartedly do not think Raven is selfish, I understand why Apple would think so. Even if you knew you'd be imprisoned you're whole life, at least you had the safety and security in knowing that. And with Apple's trauma expanded upon in the books, of course that's her point of view. I think even if Apple didn't have a happily ever after, she'd still be a die hard royal. Finally, I don't think she's selfish. As stated above, she thinks everyone will go poof if Raven doesn't sign the book. Including her. Have you ever heard that if you and another person were drowning, your instincts would kick in and you'd use that person to pull yourself back up? Yeah it's selfish, but your brain was in survival mode. If you think you and all your friends will die, and your automatic first thought will be yourself. I think it makes perfect sense for Apple to talk about herself when trying to convince Raven to sign the book. Or, the opposite end of the spectrum. You just went on the best date of your life. You are overjoyed. You're more likely to say "I had the best night ever" rather than "It was the best night ever." If Apple is talking to one of her friends about her story, a story she adores, it makes perfect sense for her to say "My story" rather than "Mine and Raven's and Darling's and Hunter's and the dwarves' story." Understand if you still don't like Apple. Way more understand if you still think she's in the wrong. I just really sympathise with Apple. Sometimes I wish I could relive my past simply because I know nothing bad has happened in the past. I want the safety of living in the past. And that's basically what Apple wants too. A pretold story where she knows nothing bad happens until it does.

this is suuuuper late (still watching the video, its great!) but maybe since odette & odile are often danced by the same ballerina in the ballet that duchess could be both the black swan and the white swan, kinda similar to what you said? lol just a thought

Ever after high a HUGE part of my childhood :))

i’m pretty sure ever after high was also shown on nickelodeon cause i have such a core memory of watching thronecoming on it at my grandmas house 😭

One character i wondered about: dutchess swan. How does she even exist? If we are going by the logic the fairy tale humans and other races reproduce sexually (which red ridding hood and big bad wolfs daughters suggest) then how is duchess even alive? She is upset she feels she has to follow her moms fate but if that applied even after the fairytale was over her mother was supposed to be dead. Unless odette and sigfreid did it when they first met and that was literally 10-12 weeks before her death at least (since that is how long it takes for a female swan to make a nest, lay and incubate her eggs before hatching) the time line does not fit and that is of course assuming her gestation time is a swan’s gestation and not the midpoint between swan and human. Unless there was some supernatural magic going on that literally created a child just to torture, her one literally an orphan before birth, that means her story was not her future and ever after high is not training there kids for there future: its training them to be actors! Once there story is told again how they live there lives in the fairy tale world would be theres to chose because the story was complete. That would mean that every adult in the fairytale world was an a***ole because they are literally blaming raven for a part that doesn’t define her off stage and it wasn’t even her actions it was her mom’s. This would also mean that dutchess’ search for a happily ever after would be completely pointless because her ending literally has no baring on her life after the story is told. This one thing opens up so many questions and plot-holes.

The plot hole involving Cupid that has always bothered me is related to the cliffhanger that teased a MH and EAH crossover where Astra was talking to Raven and Apple and saying how the Monster world was real. We know that all of the fairy tale characters know each other and their family’s stories and do take notice if someone new suddenly appears like with Crystal or Alistar and Bunny. And they are curious about said new person in their world. Yet Cupid literally appears out of nowhere from their viewpoint and no one seems to ask her where exactly she came from? Did she never mention Monster High? This is what I find confusing.

Ever after high had so much unexplored lore that it’s heart breaking

Wow book EAH were so dark. I never readed rham and prob never will but i regret not getting them when i had eah phase. Thank you for a cool video ❤

1:11:00 i think change in apple prince charming is because book of legends were fake

I think it's interesting that straight fans hate Apple and put Raven on a pedestal, but queer fans absolutely adore Apple and understand her character arc because most of us have been there. James Somerton made a really good video talking about Queer Perfect that I think would be beneficial to look at and a good lens to view Apple through. I was in her shoes. I was a cheerleader, I modeled, I did good in school, I got engaged to a guy who's father owned a law firm. I thought having a husband and kids was perfect and what would make me happy. My family also made that love wasn't unconditional. I had to prove myself worthy of it and anything short of perfection often lead to physical abuse and neglect. So Apple feeling like it's either perfection or death is very much "girl same" to me. Apple is so queer coded the fact that she was "born wrong" because she's the first Snow White with blonde hair, like this thing out of her control means there's something wrong with her is exactly how I felt about being a lesbian. I have an amazing and gorgeous girlfriend now and I'm a mortuary science student. I get to be a lesbian openly and get to help alot of people. So Apple is personal to me and to alot of other queer folks because of that. It's so strange when I see Raven fans hating the gay character, it's so weird to me especially if they side with Raven because she's a rebel and progressive??? Apple has been so fucking fruit from the start she's even named after a fruit 😭 Again I understand her behavior and views are difficult to understand if you haven't experienced it, but there's a large amount of Raven stans who still deny the kiss scene as CPR. And also look for any way to deny her gayness which I don't even fully understand why. And now when people tell me their favorite is Raven I get the ick even tho I liked the character too.

Does anyone remember the EAH yearbook? I had one when I was younger.

I don’t think the show was ever trying to set the idea of Blonde haired ppl being an oppressed minority in EAH, more so that Snow White is almost always depicted as a Brunette or with Black Hair, and in the EAH Universe Snow White has always been Brunette or had Black hair. Snow white has had dark hair for years, of course Apple being blonde what would be a point of concern for her, even outside the show’s lore off the top of my head Apple is the only Blonde Snow White I can think of. Most choices in stories do have context, and trying to claim EAH has hair discrimination against Blonde’s when said Blonde is the first Blonde of a family with mostly Black/Brown hair is just ignoring the context.

you have no idea how long i have been waiting for someone to do this ❤

FUN FACT; DECENDATS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED BY MATTEL.

Amazing video. Also my thoughts on things from the iceberg. The first is Romana being from Ceries imagination doesn't work with me. I read the post but is it always bothered me and i think it's because it kinda diminishes her character. I know that we don't get along of info on her but if they gave her more screen time or a doll with a diary we could have learn more about her which is kinda sad because i fall in love with her design. So i decided to write her diary that i post on Reddit when i finished or do it. As for the racial higher key that i really don't think about except for Ceries after reading a comment on a doll video with her San Diego Comic-Con Cerise Wolf doll. Which actual makes sense in a way. As for the hair discrimination thing I did not know about that.

28:07 NOT THE COLONIZER POCAHONTAS SONG-

The video was incredible!!!! Seriously, it was awesome hearing all the layers and theories about EAH 💖

48:49 The Evil Queen does seem cruel as in her actions, but her letter makes her seem like she loves her daughter at heart and doesn't care if she is good or evil. If you see the end of Dragon Games, The Evil Queen roots for Raven saying, "That's my daughter", through the mirror holding a foam finger thing.

1:08:46 a theory I came up with was Madeleine got bitten by zombie and cut off her arm to stop the infection, but it already spread to the rest of her body and she start turning people into zombies and killing others. I came up with it because the hair and the clothes remind me of Madeline.

Oh my God the evil queen's letter to Raven is so sad that broke my heart 😭 I completely forgot that Raven had to have had a dad like it just feels like her mom decided to spawn her one day 😭😭

5:43 That just unlocked memories. I knew I went to that site and the MH site, but this specific image unlocked shit.

Hey, Abared here. Just wanted to let you know if you do ever think about doing a video on the Ramona theory, I’m up for answering any questions or anything else you may need.

For the theory about apple and raven being swapped at birth, I find it ironic that in the theory that raven is supposed to be related to Snow White even though she doesn’t even really seem that kind and always puts her happily ever after first. It’s a good theory but I don’t think Raven and snow white’s personalities would match between them since raven is more kind and understanding at times, meanwhile the queen is slightly sadistic

One hour video just about eah lore imagine how long the video would be if the show didint get cancelled

If you plan on doing a iceberg of disturbing lost media will you include the death of owen hart steve irins death and the tape of tiny tim collasping on stage in the iceberg

Fantastic video and I agree with your thoughts on ever after high

Also you have a very pretty, relaxing voice 🥰

It’s actually not a head cannon that Darling and Apple are soulmates, the creator confirmed they are meant to be together Raven is bi Apple is lesbian Darling is lesbian Briar is bi Cupid is bi Dexter is bi Idk any other canon sexualities

1:15:00 Actually I don't think Briar is coded POC, she's white with brown hair, just a bit tanned compared to the others. Justine Dancer actually is but she isn't neither royal or rebel. Maybe there aren't much POC characters because most fairytales are european

Great video! :)

i love this video i just wish the bgm was a little lower 😭but great iceberg

i love eah this vid is awesome❤

Thank you!

Uuuuh, the swap at birth theory sounds really interesting!

Hmm very interesting video loved it! Also as a grown up woman now I think EAH is a political allegory about right wing (royals) and left wing (rebels) as I see it after a few years later!! But this goes at yhe very bottom of the iceberg right;??

2:58 this screenshot of briar is so funny to me idk why

I love this tbh

I loved this, in my native language there's no a EAH iceberg (well, only a MH & EAH iceberg). EAH is still alive, b*tches!!!!

I never hated Apple tbh

Fine I’ll watch ever after high again 🙄

Recently I was sorting out my things that had been lying around for some time, in general, in my clothes I came across the books “The School of Good and Evil.” I re-read them and they are so similar to Ever After High (⁠・⁠o⁠・⁠)

The cancellation of this show will forever sadden me. If other universes exist, I hope one of them gave this amazing series a proper ending or should I say, happily ever after 💕

If you have a VPN, Australian Netflix still has the entire EAH show

50:20 STOOOPPP😭😭😭😭THEY DESERVE SMMMM!!!!!!

I personally loved Apple, she was my favorite character. I liked her because she was flawed. She had been raised and taught her whole life that this is how things were written and supposed to be; and who wouldn’t want these things to come to pass knowing that everything good would come to you👀😂😂. Yes she was overly optimistic because the stars aligned in her favor and she desired that. She was blinded by a perfect life, and then when ppl went against that she began to go through this big identity crisis. It was so intriguing to watch and I loved it. I loved watching her watch everything unfold before her eyes, that no one was truly happy, but she wanted her happiness to come to pass and would do anything to get it. She was flawed yes, but she was very much an interesting character. Maybe this is coming from the perspective of someone was considered a mature child, or the fact that I’m also a story writer (unpublished author), but I LOVE Flawed Characters; especially when they are far from aware. She was truly out innocent villain, which is a very interesting concept👀🖤🌸

MGA may still be releasing a new fairytale themed doll line as a spin off of Rainbow and Shadow High

Dude, your briar doll is in better condition than any of mine

As a Duchess fanatic, these theories and plot holes suck, but the reason why she appears as a black swan when she's transformed is because by the end of "Next Top Villain" she starts producing black feathers, which in a way does support the theory she could be the black swan, but reading the book she's neither white nor black swan, she's a roybel

Extremely underrated video. Fantastic work! If you're interested, we should collaborate on a video sometime in the future.

bro this music

Idk if it’s because I’m in the uk, but I have all seasons on Netflix and I rewatch all the time!

Ever after high will always trump descendants. 💯

*sigh* I miss this childhood of mine

i will defend apple until the day i die, i actually don’t like raven very much and hate how hypocritical peoples stances on them can be. justice for my girl ❤

The fact that this video wasn’t called the Ever After Highsperg is actually devastating

Wow!!

1:06 Nooooooo 😭😭 I can’t unsee it 😭😭😭

My theory is that in this gen raven is the Snow White and apple is the evil Queen.

1:14:52 Wait Hunter isn't white? I knew he was a bit tan skinned I just thought since he is outside a lot that's why, from the sun,he would just been very tan from that. (I'm personally a half African American and half white boy but my skin is a lot more pale than my brothers who is a lot more dark tan skin.)

I just want everyone to know that I had an Apple White doll. :)

Did everyone and their fairyGodmother convince us as kids to through these matel dolls away because they were "werid" Regret my actions.

My dream is this video❤

17:20 in other words if you threw a dart at a world map raven probably won where it landed.

11:07 anyone else hearing audio from a whole other video?

I've watched Raven in English, multiple times...like recently

Call me insane but I LOVEDDDDD APPLE!!! STILL DOOOO.

Hey can anyone find the Thunder High stop motion video? I remember seeing waaaaaay back in the day but I can't find it now. Idk if it's my search key words or Mattel scrubbing it from the Internet

I’m really trying to enjoy this video as a huge EAH fan but this is so hard to watch did you do any research for this video because you keep saying from what I remember and Ik more about EAH then you I clicked this in hopes to learn something new and interesting and I’m just getting common knowledge and misinformation that you didn’t even try to research about Ik you probably put a lot of effort into this but I wish you put even more

Love the video the music is a bit to loud

i’ve always been curious aren’t apple white and daring siblings, if they’re parents are supposed to be together in the fairy tale 😐😐

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Im late but the switch at birth might be true because you can definitly see it on there personality 😮

0.44 ig u r sueing i mean they were planning on ut it was neve finished

Cupid belong in eah tbh

Darling isn't destined to be with Apple there was no confirmation but AMAZING VIDEO ❤❤

what rule 34 is?

I hate disney sm

less music please

Girl no offence but we don’t care abt your briar doll and we don’t care abt your dolls when u were younger we care abt the actual lore babe

i had all the books from the book fairs and the all the thronecoming dolls 🥹

I’m pretty sure that Netflix has all the seasons of eah, great video btw 🫶🏼