interesting, because season 3 and 4 come from the same book, ASOS, whereas season 2 covers a whole novel itself.

@@johntencate4781 I guess it's just my own way of categorising GOT. Season two and three comprise the time between Ned Starks beheading and the Red Wedding and that section seems seamlessly connected to me.

Season 3 is my favorite season. Just banger after banger to the point where you forget some amazing that happened in episodes

You could say that for seasons 1-4 I only play back those episodes

@@johntencate4781 Books 2 and the first half of 3. So Season 2 and 3 take place in the same year tho

Book 2 was fantastic and my favorite of the books. The season was also great, I just thought they could have done more.

imagine if house of the dragon came first & got was the spinoff & started out season with the 20 million pero episode 1 imagine what those first few seasons would’ve looked like

@@ngin98 just more battles

tf why are the game of thrones comments in a fortnite video

​@@JonJurgenstein You're on the wrong video mate

He has a good story for the realm. The characters dont care about viewers. Bran was also cut from an entire book... to get 3 chapters in the next lol

@@WWESVRGAMER But how can it be the best story when literally nobody can even explain what his powers are? As far as Tyrion can tell, he's just some kid who got crippled, went north, and got zonked out of his mind, and that's it.

@@domskillet5744 its mostly about the rejection of war, birthright and conquest. Making Bran King is the step into the right direction because of this. Once he dies, another one will be chosen and not just born into it like joffrey or because he killed everyone like dany. He is a broken King for a broken Kingdom.

Now I don’t think in the books he’s gonna be the king of the seven kingdoms but maybe the king of weirwood or the next bloodraven

No but the worst part about brans storyline is that in the books it is sooooo cool , the whole magical arc of bran was basically cut because the show runners said they wanted the show to appeal to a larger audience so that’s why they cut the fantasy elements of the show … the children of the forest + blood raven + weirwood paste dreams were all basically cut out … it would have been amazing to see if the show was abit longer

They should have just followed the books and made a feast for crows one season(it's missing a lot of characters but has a ton of good setup) and a dance with dragons two seasons and followed the storylines in there

@@olofacosta3192 well they didn't know what to do with most of these set up characters so they just omitted them and went for their own thinf

@@mohamedelhediissa289 yup which is why I'm almost equally angry at GRRM for being so lazy

@@mohamedelhediissa289 You do what any writer does, take the clues left there and move forward where they naturally and logically should go.

I disagree. Bran not being around is the best thing about season 5

Let's be honest, almost the only enjoyment to be had from season 6 are in the final 2 episodes, and even Battle of the Bastards is unbelievably flawed (they didn't give the giant a weapon ffs). Nearly every storyline is just painful to watch like Arya in Braavos, Dany with the Dothraki, Tyrion in Mereen, the High Sparrow. Jon v Ramsay is the only interesting storyline but even that is a consistent trainwreck (with the whole nonsensical Sansa being too proud to tell Jon about the Vale and the Manderlys not even showing up despite having one of the biggest armies in the north and being staunchly loyal to the Starks). If you're looking at a season in its entirety, I can't put season 6 anywhere near HOTD.

@@domskillet5744 the funny part is that almost all of those problems would have been fixed if DND followed the source material

Nonsense

@@domskillet5744 "The door" (S6 E5) was good It has a good payoff to Hodor's arc

@@sanjaykarthicks1226 Nah the door makes literally no sense when you think about it and it's a cheap development for shock value. Somehow Bran both impacts the past but the past already happened to set up the present so it's perpetually in a paradox (which is the same issue with the time turner in Harry Potter). Beyond that, Bran does literally nothing and his powers are barely touched on if at all after this moment of supposed revelation, so any impact is immediately lost. Beyond beyond that, why did they feel the need to give Hodor a supernatural backstory and cram it into one episode when he's such a minor character? Nobody was dying to find out why Hodor is Hodor and the fact it's not touched on ever again (neither is Hodor) makes it even more clear it's just there for shock value and because Hodor is a fan favorite, instead of it being there for a narrative purpose.

I love the world building and set up of season 1. It gives an introduction to what kind of world we’re going to be in during the show and what’s at stake

I think season 1 is by far the best. It had an incredible pacing, was faithfull to the books but also created good Show only scenes and Most Main characters were Well written (accept for Daenaerys and sansa they didnt really understood those characters from the beginning)

Season 6 had some good moments aswell but mostly agreed

“The show died with Tywin”

@@tbrown5836 indeed..... Indeed....

Cap

I liked it up to season 6.

Season 4 was when the silly writing started.

@@hayleyb2254 *Ramsay* shirt scene... and another?

@DareDevil Karl Tanner drinking out of a skull. Cringe and impossible. Bran etc hiding between a twig and expecting not to be seen by Karl etc. The Hound openly telling people he was with Arya Stark. The Hound robbing the farmer that helped them and leaving him and his daughter to starve. Book Hound wouldn't have done this. Brienne and The Hound just so happening to bump into each other. Bran and Jon being at the same place at the same time. This season was when Westeros became incredibly small. Also killing off Jojen seemed to be done for shock valve. Cutting Lady Stoneheart was a huge mistake too. As was dropping Tysha from Tyrions plot.

@@hayleyb2254 oh yeah The Last Battle with Wights seemed wonky all the way Jojen dying was rushed, lol. Didnt feel anything the Whole Time. But everything else? Nah. Drinking from Mormont's skull was what made me Hate him So much more. Dude's a shit. And Hound with that family was Harsh but within his Character those Seasons. So, anything else doesnt stand. But definitely that Shirless Ramsay scene and Jojen and Wights part tacked on for Action Sake.

​@@hayleyb2254no, season 5

Somewhat agree. Only thing season 2 was missing is the fantastical elements from the books. But budget and DnDs idiotic asses prevented that

Nah, season 2 has a lot of problems. That's when they started to deviate massively from the books and it showed. It was a handful of great episodes (2x6, 2x9 and 2x10), and a lot of really mediocre ones. For instance, it took a while to get going, and episodes 7 & 8 were really meh. Season 3, on the other hand, was quite consistent throughout, and it had a lot more shocking moments. Season 3 is also a lot prettier for some reason. The cinematography went up a notch from S2.

@@Al-ji4gd honestly after reading clash is when you realise how much d&d wasted by not including magic. House of the undying, patchface and also reek storyline were missing

It is in fact extremely boring. The original Game of Thrones is my favorite series, and I have watched a lot of historical drama series and movies, but HOTD was definitely the most boring out off all of them

@@Itza-Me incorrect answer :/

@@Itza-Mehow was it boring? Or what about it didn’t you like?

Funny how everyone who thinks it’s boring has no idea whats coming ahah

It is boring imo . The dialogue are just exposition and the character dont feel real .

Exactly my ranking

Definitely watch HOTD, it’s not god tier but is really good as a thrones fan and a breath of fresh air compared to the last few seasons of got

Put HotD at 3

Wrong

4 1 3 6 2 7 5 8

Yeah. Imo, the only reason it ranks "middle" currently is simply because the first 4 seasons of GoT were that spectacular (even though I'd be in the camp that HotD S1 is better than GoT S2).

@@youtube-kit9450 yes

Season 4 i think is better sligtly better but 1-3 could be switched in any order. Season 4 is just perfect tv

They had GRR Martin's help for those scenes. But you're right as the main reason in the decline in storytelling is that they stop caring.

this exactly. (i mean except the not deciding part im team black all the way) but the best thing about HotD is that you understand every single character and why they do what they do as opposed to GoT where you dont get to see the motives of alot the main players.

@@hypershadow6997 the problem is they don't actually do anything tho

HotD is just so boring to me . I dont care who sit on the iron throne .

@@hypershadow6997 team black is hyper cringe

@@Itza-Me I mean they don’t have to it’s a build up…idk why y’all like rushed shows

I really liked the Sparrows. If you're going to create a world with religions and beliefs, then you have to have groups of people more dedicated to their faiths or extreme for it to have substance and for the world building to be believable. Also the fact that there was rampant poverty in Kings Landing and such neglect from Cersei makes it a realistic option for the common folk to gravitate towards a religious cult that offers them a distraction from life. You're right though, it was such a cheap shot to remove them in one fell swoop with the beloved queen and somehow noone revolted. That was the death of GoT and the rest that came after was just beating the corpse lol

I didn't like how they went from hating Cercei to loving her overnight. I agree about the explosion. It felt cheap and made me dislike the charachter even more. Not to mention why nobody ever removed the wild fire from below kings landing after the mad king was killed. If I understand correctly, it was known about.

The explosion was cool looking and unexpected. But looking back, it was the first sign that d&d were in a clear path to kill off or dummify all the cunning or smart characters. I don't exactly hate the decision of cersei doing a move like that but as shown in the previous seasons you will expect heavy consequences for that, and it doesn't really happen. For me, what really killed the series was the death of little finger. Obviously the pointless plan to capture a zombie was another good nail in the coffin but killing the character that pretty much started the entire series. Why did he spend the entire season trying to make starks sister fight with each other!? What was actually he's end goal!? Not to mention that the entire trial before his execution is really questionable, i know that little finger is a pretty bad dude and the starks are good, but the basis of his trial are completely circunstancial. It's basically like the starks decided to kill someone just because. Im talking from the outside look, the people of winterfell and the soldiers from the valley should have to at least be convinced with something more. But in the show, from one day to another everyone hates little finger just because. What really infuriates of the scene is that basically that it shows how anything can happen without any previous stablish logic or reasoning. Moments like Ned's death, the red wedding or the purple wedding can't happen if the writers have zero idea of how to set up a plot with multiple parties involved, besides bad vs good. Thinking about the show makes me mad so that's it for my unnecessary tiny rant.

The city not protesting is a flaw with season 7 not 6

I’ve always had issues with people taking issues with the time jumps as they were completely unavoidable

​@roronoalaw7772 yeah are but we're done very poorly

To be honest, each season should be evaluated individually, but people the to think of the first 4 collectively. Season 1 of HoTD is better than Season 2 of GOT and, at least, slightly below Season 1.

HoTD is nowhere near season 1 and 4 of GoT. No way, at least not yet.

First 4 seasons of GOT are waaaaay ahead of HOTD

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I agree, season 6 was great but it just gets overshadowed by the fact that season 7 and 8 ruin everything it built. Jon becoming king in the north for example, just to leave the north straight away and ditch his crown without doing any ruling pretty much.

Nah, season 6 was mostly trash.

@@Al-ji4gdBattle of the Bastards and The Winds of Winter are masterful television, though.

@@Howlingburd19 I disagree. They're entertaining TV with a handful of good moments. The writing and everything else, however, sucks. What's so masterful about that?

@@Al-ji4gd you think so? A lot of people consider both them so be some of the greatest GOT episodes. As for BotB, it needs to be acknowledged that the episode isn’t as drama-based as many others (but even then, there was some good drama between Jon and Sansa), it’s one of the “battle” episode, which I believe is not a bad thing (and only a “handful of good moments” is absolutely ridiculous. There’s so many ferocious moments). It has a lot of strengths. Ones that I hope you can agree on is the size, scale, cinematography, choreography, sequences, visuals (it is literally one of the greatest visual spectacles put on television), music, and performances by Kit Harington and Iwan Rheon. At the very very least you have to agree that all of those are phenomenal, no? The pacing is also pretty good, and there were a mix of emotions like fear, stress, anxiety, tension, and satisfaction. The buildup to the episode show sets it up the very well. I can understand the dislike, though. As for me, I honestly enjoy almost all of the episodes from seasons 1-6. Season 7 and 8 I don’t give a shit about and don’t consider them canon for me :P

For me: 1.4 2.1 & 2 3.3

Season 4 was the climax of a ton of storylines so it has the most interesting subject material to go off of. But the writing was by far the worst of the first 4 seasons. I'd put it at the bottom of seasons 1-4 personally

It's no coincidence since DnD admitted that they're main purpose with making GOT was to put the red wedding on screen. After that they brought the quality down slowly but safely. Not to mention cut storylines

I agree. Outside of the iconic memorable moments, there is a lot of dumb stuff, like the Jaime rape scene and Yara’s dumb rescue plot. Locke’s side quest doesn’t make sense (I.e. just happening to find Bran and Rickon north of the wall). Plus we can’t forget possibly the worst line in the first four seasons: “Sansa’s not a killer…not yet anyway.”

@@olofacosta3192 It's such a shame because GOT could've been the greatest show of all time if it had been given the proper respect in its entirety instead of a single scene

Just ignore season 7 and 8 and you’re good lol

This is pretty much my ranking, though I think I’d have s1 a bit higher. I love Ned, and it’s incredibly consistent with the episode quality. The Wolf and the Lion, A Golden Crown, You Win or You Die, Baelor, Fire and Blood. All phenomenal episodes for me, and I appreciate how book faithful the season is.

This is part of why I didn't read the books while watching the show. The season 4 finale is my favorite episode in the series but I know book readers despise it.

@@tahireed And once you see Tyrion's journey Season 5 onwards it's easy to understand why. That change really messed up Tyrion's characterization going forward.

@@tahireed the episode itself on its own is fine, the problem is that it ruins Tyrion's character for season 5 and after.

I agree tbh I liked season 4 but it was noticeably less consistent than 1-3 and had some changes that messed up the show in future seasons.

Season 4 is tbetter than the books.

Agree with your top however, the best episode for me is "blackwatter" & 1,2-S I would bet on one place

Season 1is better than Season 4. Every plot point is enjoyable and the dialogue is absolutely unmatched.

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But yeah otherwise I completely agree. I forgot how much I didn't like season 5 until I tried to rewatch this summer and was legitimately bored while watching season 5 and gave up there

Hotd so good

What parts from the book are faithfully adapted from the book? Everything in Season 5 squanders what GRRM laid out.

@@gfilmer7150 I'm not saying it was faithful. Parts like High Sparrow taking power, Sons of Harpy (excluding death of Barristan), Jon's assasination, there are core parts for exploring but ruined later. Season 6 has more action but everything is insultingly stupid.

@@nemesis3587 But that stuff in Season 5 was also ruined. The arcs were poorly adapted. Where is Dany’s foreshadowing for the mad Queen? Season 6 had action while Season 5 had nothing. Just filler.

To be fair, the battle of the bastards was kind of intentionally a mess. The whole point was that ramsay provoked jon into falling into his trap, thus depriving his army of effective leadership. On ramsay's part, he did lead the battle quite well with his only real mistake being not scouting for reinforcements for jons side, which how could he predict littlefinger would randomly help jon all of the sudden?

For that reason, Season 5 is bad.

Completely agree with this list. The only disagreement I have is with your description of s7. I don't think it was just "flawed and rushed", I think it was a disaster very much on par with s8. If season 8 is a 1/10, season 7 is a 2/10 or 3/10, not more than that.

season 8 truly is so bad that the list should have hundreds of empty placement spots just so that season 8 could be even lower down

We have the exact same ranking :)

my exact list except GOT 2 and 1 are flipped

season 4 was great but they really fucked up the part with Tyrion and Jaime after the former killed Tywin.

George writing the last books would not have changed GoT that much. They decided to skip almost everything from Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons anyways. Why would they not have continued the trend with Winds and Dream?

@@UnwrittenNoise Yes it would. It would have changed almost everything because the showrunnerd made terrible writing decisions that made zero fucking sense. Basing the story on the books would have changed almost everything.

@@juicypineapple6995 They would have ignored the book just like they did books 4 and 5. The Dorne story in the show, for example, has no similarities to the Dorne story in the book. I agree that if they did actually base the show on books it would have changed it, but they already stopped basing it on books BEFORE they ran out of material.

@@UnwrittenNoise I can agree with you partially. Yes, they based it on the books less and less over time, but you have to admit that it still would have been better AND more faithful to the source material if they at least had some more books to base things on. If they had more books, they would have included some of it. That is still a lot better than the pile of shit of a free for all it became in S7 and S8