Everyone is Painting Miniatures WRONG

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@Caladors 2 жыл бұрын

Why do you think there is such a stigma against commissioning painters? I mean if people halfed their pile of shame they could probably afford to have it all professionally painted.

@akumaking1 2 жыл бұрын

Can you reach out to Adeptus Ridiculous?

@nelinio6 2 жыл бұрын

I have, what I call "The 3 Foot Rule". I paint stuff so it looks good about 3 foot away, as that is where it will sped the majority of its active life, about 3 feet away from me and my opponent, doesn't need to be a masterpiece up close

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent rule, I employ it myself :D

@ImperiumofRat 2 жыл бұрын

That's a good rule tbf, I'm a HUGE proponent of painting with washes, bases and inks only. I managed to paint 10 orks in an hour and although they're not detailed apart from the teeth and nails they look good on the table. What? The shorts, chest, gloves and cloth are all the exact sand colour? Well thanks to layering washes they have a gradient on them.

@SoMrStewart 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@JudexDirus 2 жыл бұрын

Ya, mine is more like 30 feet….. 😉

@Rubo2333 2 жыл бұрын

I do the same thing. I have so much stuff to paint that I can't go back, can't second guess just move forward.

@adamhanson5565 2 жыл бұрын

"It's an army level game, the individual models don't count." It took me ages to internalize this. I've got a fully painted Sisters army (knocked It out in a little over a week for a tournament). The paintjobs are garbage, but people at my local club kept telling me how great it looked. I didn't realize until one of the guys pointed out that I was the only person there that night who even brought a fully painted army.

@cinifiend 2 жыл бұрын

Same here. A fully painted army ALWAYS looks better than an army with 1-2 units and a few characters painted well and the rest is 80% grey. The whole is more than the sum of it's parts.

@josephskiles 2 жыл бұрын

Which sect? My girls are OML, for some reason they have a phobia of wearing helmets, all my girls go into battle bare headed.

@schemesof40k 2 жыл бұрын

Unless you/they bring a 2,000 points Titan.

@evilgingerminiatures5820 2 жыл бұрын

Commanders can so you can block out the rank and file and save your best work for the leaders and a few pretty flags

@chuckle021975 2 жыл бұрын

I have cerebral palsy, and saw it as a challenge to learn to paint. It's taken time and effort (hours of frustration too!) to have what I call a "messy style". I get pleasure doing it even though I might not be good at it, but people seem to see it as awesome as they don't think that they could do it. Anyone should just give it a go! There are loads of people on FB sites as well as KZfaq to encourage and help you.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! That's awesome :D

@Bluecho4 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

@evilgingerminiatures5820 2 жыл бұрын

I have a couple of customers with cerebral palsy & they are damned good painters but a bit slow & need a hand with getting stuff built on occasion. I would love to see your stuff & glad you have fun doing it

@M1tZk1 2 жыл бұрын

As Oncle Atom once beautifully said: "It's okay to be bad at your hobby. [You're doing this for fun afterall]."

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Put as much time into this as is fun - I am a big believer in not stressing out about it :D

@bopaintsminis 2 жыл бұрын

Love that guy. He also said that he thought minis might be too detailed for gaming. In this context it makes sense.

@josephskiles 2 жыл бұрын

He's a treasure to our hobby!

@vincentcinerini5632 Жыл бұрын

This video reminded me of Uncle Atom's too!

@wanna877 2 жыл бұрын

I have the exact opposite philosophy.... I paint my minis at the best of my abilities always. Mainly because I don't have a deadline, I don't play (I don't have who to play with), but also because I to look at them and I feel proud of them..... But it also drains a lot from me..... maybe I should try this......

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

give it a shot honest! I ended up enjoying myself a lot more without putting any pressure on myself

@absolutfreak5012 2 жыл бұрын

This is pretty much my ideology, but I've started branching out in the last year or so. I've made my 40k orks my main army. I go all-in as much as I can when working on the boyz. However, I've started cutting corners for speed for my alternate projects. Like I did the Fyreslayer half of Fury of the Deep in about two weeks (which is like light speed compared to my normally glacial pace) by giving a bunch of extra techniques the axe. They aren't up to the standard my orks are, but they still look rock solid on the tabletop in their units with some terrain and an army to fight against. Even a really basic color setup can look respectable several feet away in a gameplay setting.

@m__y-t-s 2 жыл бұрын

You can always strip them when you feel like doing a perfect paintjob.

@christianhellicar3104 2 жыл бұрын

Here's actually a good tip for painting "artistically" in a bad way: paint half your model green, half purple, then dry brush over another colour on top of both in the dark. You may think I'm joking, but I've got some pretty cool looking Necrons that way.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

love it

@christianhellicar3104 2 жыл бұрын

@@DiscourseMinis & don't get me started on edge highlighting. If someone likes it, knock yourself out. But light doesn't work that way unless you're in Tron.

@walkerawhite4698 2 жыл бұрын

That is definitely an aesthetic and unique enough to maintain ease and consistent theme. Even professional painters talk about colors that commonly exist in reflection/refraction of some surfaces. Purple and Green are common for warmer metals like brass and gold.

@zimzam3688 2 жыл бұрын

im red green colorblind, hes gonna end up puke'eske

@1crlski 2 жыл бұрын

@@zimzam3688 Then you really need to check out Guy at midwinter mini's he is also red/green color blind and he does some really nice work

@Kirioth 2 жыл бұрын

You say you don't have the time or talent, but drybrushing Ice Yellow over any and every model you own makes it magical and takes only a few seconds. I mean that's what I do and- oh right yeah ok I see

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Every model deserves that special treatment (that takes seconds to do)

@Kirioth 2 жыл бұрын

@@DiscourseMinis the icing on the cake (that's made of concrete and decorated with emulsion)

@BBolloBB 2 жыл бұрын

The 40k subreddit - "My first mini please be gentle" Literally the mona lisa in miniature form. Whelp I'm gonna go back to the mud with my thick paint.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

I feel this in my SOUL

@t0k3p0k3 2 жыл бұрын

I'm tired of being surrounded by painting enthusiasts giving their tips and tricks to improve my models when I've already decided I'm done with them. Not everyone is always trying to get better and learn new techniques. I just want my mass of unpainted minis to be painted as soon as possible with as little effort as possible to a quality that doesn't look terrible to me.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is me now haha

@Jokreher 2 жыл бұрын

3 colors plus a near black & an off white. Black first then dry brush white. Make 3 grey gradients then mix in your 3 colors. Bob is your uncle, Fanny is your auntie, & Todd is your neighbor.

@jpf338 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah god forbid having the option to improve.

@samrowland2816 2 жыл бұрын

@@jpf338 I know right? Free advice from well meaning people who want share their knowledge? Eurgh.

@WladcaPodziemia 2 жыл бұрын

Something I learned myself and embraced as my own "hack". 1. Black base 2. Layer of color 3. Drybrush or just go lightly over places where hilights would go (just much bigger) 4. Wash Wash will blend dark and light parts together into something that looks the same. Also, dark wash fits everything, since you are getting "comics" look on them

@youtousim 2 жыл бұрын

A friend of mine had his 7 year old daughter paint 2 Space Marines recently, using Contrast Paint for the main armor, adding some details on the aquila and the weapons in metallics. One was classic blue, one a lovely bright pink. They both looked pretty good, actually. If a 7 year old can do it, so can you!

@benwhitnell 2 жыл бұрын

My kid got me a “world’s OK-est dad” mug for Father’s Day last year and i have really made it my mantra. Has immensely improved my life.

@Crosis101 2 жыл бұрын

I made the mistake of learning to paint from one guy who was a golden daemon winner and another guy who painted so many minis for Reaper that they named minis after him. I put 80 hours into a PanOceana Orc Trooper painting from black primer to white armor. It wasn’t good enough. Like they literally told me they were disappointed in me and felt I could have done better. Since then i started a “good enough “ crusade for my minis. I in fact last year started started a project for all the random Necrons that I collected over the years that I started calling “The Good Enough Battalion” I had to pull myself away from the urge to go back and fix minor mistakes. The whole exercise means I now have 9 stands of scarabs and 34 warriors I can put on the table. Good enough is a godsend mentality. Keep it up!:)

@marcjohnson5991 2 жыл бұрын

That’s really poor feedback to have given you. It in no way encourages or helps you improve. Only you should get to decide if you are happy or not with your miniatures. Well done for moving past that and continuing to paint.

@RotGolem 2 жыл бұрын

I started painting minis in the early, early '90s, with enamels. Yes, enamels. Having acrylics and videotutorials is like iddqd and idkfa with a paintbrush. You want to churn out armies fast? Go Contrast over a grisaille/zenithal prime, with very dark recesses and very bright extreme highlights. Maybe a couple metallics.

@Ian_Butterworth 2 жыл бұрын

This is an interesting video. When painted mini's shared on internet forums, Instagram or Discord servers are all amazing, it creates the idea that the 'average' figure is painted to a standard unattainable for many. A look on Ebay tells a different story.

@josephskiles 2 жыл бұрын

I belong to a discord where I never fail to embrace my mediocrity, I always tell people on it to post all of their models despite their skill, it encourages others to pick up their brushes I feel. I really think anyone who takes the time to paint their army instead of leaving bare plastic should have every bit of encouragement possible!

@Furzkampfbomber 2 жыл бұрын

I guess, should I ever decide to play the tabletop, I will just play Primaris Grey Nights. I mean, it's in the very name that they are easy to paint - just spray them with _uniform grey,_ and here is where the _Prime-aris'_ come in, _primer._ Easy job.

@deathwingterminator3413 2 жыл бұрын

9:25. I'm not convinced about 400 guardsmen in 24 h either, but I managed 105 during 7-21 session. To a fairly decent standard. Granted, transfers were applied 2 days later, when I regained some mental strength to get them finished like the rest. :)

@GuzziHeroV50 2 жыл бұрын

The best miniatures I ever did were some of my first, some metal ogres painted with Humbrol enamels. Except the brown I used had started to harden and couldn't be properly stirred. It was too thin so it settled between all the muscles and looked fookin FANTASTIC.

@RaikovGear 2 жыл бұрын

This must be how shading with washes was discovered

@VioletHyena 2 жыл бұрын

Bascilicanum grey can be a good replacement for nuln oil.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's also my go-to "rock" colour

@1tpkdm 2 жыл бұрын

If you ever feel bad about your own painting skills just look at what people try to pass off as "pro painted" on ebay.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Pro-painted with a dip into a bucket of paint. Lets you add on the $$$ to the price tag :D

@jbriggsiv 2 жыл бұрын

This has got to be the most enjoyable video of the week. Great to see your vibrant self back in the video. You always make me laugh. I particularly liked your "guy" jokes. Here's my tip for painting faces; just take the helmeted option whenever possible. :-D

@GurrenLagann98 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I embraced this mindset sooner. Last year I painted 3 mega gargantua back to back, and put a ton of work into them, and unreasonable amount in some cases. And I’m only now escaping the burnout those 3 buggers put me through.

@antronk 2 жыл бұрын

I LOVE this. Just everything about it. The concept, the honesty, the self-deprecation, your delivery. And you couldn't be more right!

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

thank you!!

@shauku77 2 жыл бұрын

Probably one of your most important videos to date, and it's hilarious too. I'm watching this again.

@BasementRecordStudio 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video, it’s nice to hear this message every so often!

@BigMekDanskull 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid. I agree ots important to loosen up while painting & understand what you're trying to achieve. I painted a mini for every day of the year last year & found myself using as few paints as possible. I just helped speed up the process, not trying to choose the perfect shade for every little detail on the model.

@LibTech79 2 жыл бұрын

This video came out yesterday. Overdue delivery of minis order arrived today. Starting to get a strong hint on how to spend my weekend.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Fate beckons!

@DziaduzLasu 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, Warzone on the new thumbnail!

@MechbossBoogie 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know why it is, but I really want a mini painted like that. The thicc coat. As Bob Ross once said, "we don't make mistakes just happy little accidents."

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

yaaaaaas, get it done!

@t0k3p0k3 2 жыл бұрын

That is an accurate description of my first space marines. I wanted to get all of the base color on one marine with one load of paint on a brush. Back then I could paint 7 marines in an hour, but lost some detail on the helmet face. I painted the details neatly and managed with only 5 paints total. Still adding to that army with the same color scheme and style but I paint more carefully and use a colored primer for the base color. Only added nuln oil and a few more colors.

@MajorSvenGaming 2 жыл бұрын

Love this video.... I paint as a form of relaxation.... But if I otherthink what I'm painting then I am no longer relaxing.... I spray the main colour then pick out some details with a few base costs the. I cover in nuln oil or earthshade.... My entire nighthaunt is basically sprayed white and have armour and weapons picked out in gold then they have that blue wash over them.... They look great and took about 5 minutes a model.... Faces are the only time I put a bit of effort in and add a little bit of highlighting over the wash.... A finished army is much better than a pile of grey...

@ant6227 2 жыл бұрын

I actually think Guy and Brent's channels are great because they are relatively average painters. I hope that doesn't sound offensive to them because I love those channels but they generally produce very achievable results. Then I watch something like Squidmar and feel discouraged by the high level of painting and casual condescension for beginner level painting techniques. There are honestly quite a few channels out there I just don't understand the popularity of because I simply don't have the patience to spend 20+ hours on a single model. I hope everyone doesn't feel obligated to spend that kind of time on their models because of what's out there. I'd rather play against an avergae fully painted army than one with 90% grey plastic and 2 or 3 spectacularly painted minis every time.

@timothyperrigoue3997 Жыл бұрын

My games are Steampunk... so EVERYTHING is Sepia, Rust and Soot, Pencil graphite metals.... and Nuln Oil washed. How to define which mini is whose? The BASES are painted Joe's Yellow, Patty's Green, Jed's Purple, NPC Pink, Bad Guy Gray! The Scenery too!

@animusvids 2 жыл бұрын

It's not about taking sides, each one has to experience the full hobby spectrum and then keep the part that makes you happy, be either assembling, painting, gaming etc.

@RoderickPommier 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, you're good! Your videos keep popping up, and I keep watching. Finally, sub'd, appreciate your work, spot on!

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@garolish 2 жыл бұрын

best painting advice video i have seen in a long time. nice

@darthboothyreviews 2 жыл бұрын

One of the reasons I LOVE Sonic Sledgehammer is he can show you achievable techniques and easy to follow

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's an excellent channel!

@Alf_Hairy-arse 2 жыл бұрын

Man I'm still loving the captions of your vids. First instead of painting it said pimping your models, then it said to use less pants (paints).

@Keltik0ne 2 жыл бұрын

Sonic Sledgehammer, the master of the easy paint style.

@theDackjanielz 2 жыл бұрын

I recently experienced this phenomenon with my Nighthaunt - i must of started those guys over about 5x because i was so utterly determined to get them to look correct with spooky spectral colours and drybrushing and all those wonderful examples you see online and i was utterly convinced i could recreate it, but it was NEVER quite there...Now i've just spray painted them all white and blobbed them in Aethermatic blue, maybe with a metal piece or two and suddenly they look just great! Madness i tell ye!

@algorithm_acolyte 2 жыл бұрын

This is a good thing to put out there. I think I've gotten better at just painting my little monster men and not sweating it, but I have favorites that absolutely freeze me up. Got a Tzeeentch army that's been progressing at a snail's pace because I need them to be PERFECT

@MagicManAleister 2 жыл бұрын

If you want encouragement and fun, paint anything Nurgle or Death Guard, the imperfections actually play into the theme

@adamsauve4562 2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. I stress way to much about my painting and how it's nowhere near where I want it to be. Being a mediocre painter is ok! Love your videos, keep them coming!

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Adam!

@Smilomaniac 2 жыл бұрын

eBayMiniatureRescues does style painting and has excellent examples of good looking armies with minimal effort and while a lot of it is airbrush work, you can apply some techniques to get a similar result. For example, painting your soldiers to make them look like stone golems. Prime in grey, drybrush a lighter grey, give them glowy eyes. Don’t get leadbelcher, get a vallejo metal air paint you like (dark aluminum is close) and with nuln oil there’s no difference. It applies in one coat with a brush, thinner than you can thin your paints. It’s magic.

@bradp6452 2 жыл бұрын

This really speaks to me. I have so many unpainted minis and have not found mini painting fun or relaxing since I put to much pressure on myself and it takes so long. I think on point not mentioned is that the cost of certain companies miniatures makes messing them up a scary idea. I am going to give the new speed paints a go on some lower cost minis from board games and such.

@rootsnootthnute8598 Жыл бұрын

This is why I convert stuff, that's a hard arena to be unilaterally better in, and a crummy paintjob can look great on the right conversion/homemade sculpt, giving me some visually fun figures even if I'm not the best painter.

@leonardwisniewski3418 Жыл бұрын

I remember, in the before time, picking up the 'eavy metal guide to painting models. It made my head spin. I couldn't pick up on what I was doing wrong, nor what was actually happening in all those steps to paint my minis. It wasn't till a decade later that I realize that 'eavy metal painters glaze the heck out of everything thing on that box art.

@richardlambert7772 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, you could probably paint 382 epic scale Imperial Guard pretty quickly. That's why I love small scale minis, so quick to paint!

@scareypete13 2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome! I laughed the whole time. Thank you.

@elfbait3774 2 жыл бұрын

I have always said, "Better to have something on the board than nothing at all". I usually apply this to terrain builds but it also applies to paintjobs.

@eskhaphey2873 2 жыл бұрын

hehe good tips, the paints I use for my Grey Knights are the same ones I use for my Black Legion XD, whenever you get good a painting a certain colour, ever time you want to paint something that colour it usually ends up being painted the same as every other time you do it XD

@sergeiyamagoro431 2 жыл бұрын

This is real talk that I needed! I will go for it next chance I have to sit down to hobby, and finally get beyond primer with my Imperial Guard.

@Writh811 2 жыл бұрын

The easy win for me is a lazy zenithal, contrasts paints, then streak and grime, miner edge highlights with either grey seer or wraithbone. My main army is Space Wolves so I do my Zenithal with "The Fang" as a base, Russ Grey as midtone and Blue Horror for the highlight (and edge highlights). These colors let the other bits take to contrast paints like a duck to water. I will admit I'm not bad a faces (I learned the wolves don't like to wear helmets), before I got into the hobby I watched million videos on painting faces so by the time I painted my first one my brain was like "I know this!"

@Zetsthamys 2 жыл бұрын

15:35 Where are those free space marines ? **bam** God dammit.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

video needs a VIOLENCE warning

@marcjohnson5991 2 жыл бұрын

I mostly want to paint for the enjoyment of it rather than getting armies onto the table. Yet I also love videos like the speed painting videos from Midwinter Mini’s not because I want to paint fast rather I’m a beginner and it’s a good level for me to aim at rather than trying to compare myself to expert painters with decades of experience. I appreciate the expert painters who can give beginner and intermediate guidance without talking down to folks and encouraging folks to enjoy it over anything else.

@chrisbeckett9748 2 жыл бұрын

Uh, look at you, all fancy with your "grey primer" 😉 My style is "cheap 90s": Single layers of Chaos Black, Blood Red, Boltgun Metal, Goblin Green and Bleached Bone and tons of old and clumpy Humbrol enamels just because I love the smell so much. Cheers!

@kailenmitchell8571 2 жыл бұрын

YES!!!! Since getting back into minis via Battletech I have been keeping to painting a 4 or 5 Mechs the morning of our actual game. Barely dry and throwing out the Daka Daka. I do a quick base color, Camo, gold or silver weapon barrels (via Sharpie marker) throw a wash on, let dry, pack up for game.

@paladinpariah325 2 жыл бұрын

We live in a day and age where every little mistake person does makes them a dumpster fire. This is especially true at most jobs, where people are made to suffer for every little mistake and the good of the corporation is far more important than even basic needs like food or bathroom trips. This inhuman perspective has permeated through every level of our culture, including hobbying. Being caught between fields of gray and three layers of highlighting, the attitudes towards painting in this hobby are broken in almost every way. I stay away from the hobby community and don't play at events any more partially because of this. Maybe if people understood that good enough was good enough, we wouldn't have record numbers of people dying from drug overdoses and maybe this hobby would be less toxic.

@Rubo2333 2 жыл бұрын

People think that if they are not the best at something it's not worth doing.

@brentc3580 2 жыл бұрын

“The perfect is the enemy of the good” -Discourse, 2022

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

100%

@tomfisher6422 2 жыл бұрын

Most of my Orks get WAAAGH! flesh for the base coat, paint the armour based on which clan they are going to be, some Leadbelcher for the weapons, and maybe some Liberator Gold for the guns.

@mtgmac1 2 жыл бұрын

Look at Discourse pulling a Cato the Elder with her own Carthage quote, I see you.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

>:D

@willcollis4544 2 жыл бұрын

a white undercoat with one thin coat then a dark brown oil wash would get a better result for the same effort and skill level and you could include a mustard for yellow and white is free.

@hansgruber3064 2 жыл бұрын

Fulgrim would be spinning in the warp if he could hear you.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Good I WANT him to hear it!

@villano37 2 жыл бұрын

This vídeo is getting me into painting models.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

It's a lot easier than it looks, I'd totally recommend it! :D

@bencorey5340 2 жыл бұрын

Love this video. Definitely makes me feel better about putting paint on my models. 😍

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Go for it!

@eitherorlok 2 жыл бұрын

All this AND a joke about Liefeld's inability to draw feet? This is the quality content I'm all about!

@ebzmuffshuh7513 2 жыл бұрын

Noice. Just finished my first complete painted ultra marine today, and noticed, that the "quick and dirty" paintjob I always do isn't just a lack of practice. It is kind of a style, and I like it. Now that I fully realized that, painting is way more enjoyable 😁

@rustedbeetle 2 жыл бұрын

The phrase of the day is "reasonable expectations". Table ready is not the same as post pics somewhere ready.

@charleswatson2605 2 жыл бұрын

I post table ready all the time!

@justandrew1684 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video so much!

@LunchBoxNM 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video. Screaming while painting faces is my new technique.

@elrondorio 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like this video should have been titled "Stop the Insanity" which is the way I look at it any more (I haven't the time to assemble much less paint anything until I retire.)

@chriscongemi2109 2 жыл бұрын

Paint to the level your comfortable with. Their your models.

@voodoo83 2 жыл бұрын

I got back into 40k abouts 12 months ago and one of the factors on picking an army was how easy it was to paint. Ended up with Death Guard. You can make almost any mistake work. Now I actually paint pretty ok. Like above average I think. But its super nice not stressing too much. Things are gonna get all grimy when I oil washing them in Burnt seinna and I like more DG extra gory so there is a fair bit of blood. End of the day anything that looks like it might be a mistake is usually lost by the time I'm done.

@mateuszt6498 2 жыл бұрын

These minis are so expensive and beautifully made that I like to take my time while painting them. I've moved on and boycotted GW in my workshop, but have many minis from other manufacturers. I love to take my time and to put in a lot of effort into them, even though they will never be "pro youtuber level". Having said that I do it because I love it. That's what matters!

@MarkKnightSHG 2 жыл бұрын

I am definitely down in the dirt with you Discourse. Still, I have a whole tyranid army rocking a grey colour scheme..... *sigh*

@chrispygingerpie 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think people should purposefully paint bad, but not having too high expectations… the 30k scene is great though for painting and encouraging people.

@ian8477 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I love this energy.

@redleg1376 2 жыл бұрын

I literally painted 90 guardsmen in 2 evenings for a tournament once, 3 color standard. I about wore out my airbrush doing it and I went several weeks without painting afterwards.

@Zakiriel 2 жыл бұрын

As Discourse continues to evolve into a Racoon! aka a Trash Panda!

@lazyminipainting 2 жыл бұрын

Such a revelation. I've been using the discourse painting method 🤔

@primozimo3041 2 жыл бұрын

9:51 "no one cares about your miniatures" damm that's brutal but true

@colonelkilling2425 2 жыл бұрын

Great advise, Discourse. I need to constantly remind myself that good enough is good enough.

@michaelpipe5488 2 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video! Laughed so much … while trying to paint (expertly, of course). 😂

@nea3875 2 жыл бұрын

Painting my armies is simple I just prime them the main color and then make sure everything else is colored the way it’s supposed to be and then I do the nuln oil and now they look like they went through the grime and then god enough

@vicariousventuregaming2670 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one who screams loudly in terror when painting faces. In all seriousness, great video! I've started enjoying painting more so than ever before by just reminding myself to have fun and ignoring superfluous, overly sculpted details that don't add much to the overall look of the miniature.

@walkerawhite4698 2 жыл бұрын

Totally forwarding this to some friends. I'll stick with the zen of painting okay enough and feeling some sense of pride.

@ManuelOrtizification 2 жыл бұрын

I think the best advice i could give people is to find your style and stick with it. What comes naturally to you will often be the quickest and easiest for you with a bit of practice. Im not the best painter in the world by a long shot, but i've won plenty of comps when i bother to put in the extra effort and i've done my fair share of commissions. I actually prefer the models i've done in my own style over the ones i've done super technical paint jobs on for competitions/commissions. For me at least, my painting is sort of my interpretation of the old warhammer artwork i loved so much back in my earliest days with the hobby.

@captainkarnage9874 2 жыл бұрын

Pro tip If you can prime your miniatures in the base color do it Saves a ton of time I prime my Iron Warriors silver so I can make my eyes bleed working on the trim

@setra23 2 жыл бұрын

Base, layer, wash, bit of a highlight and you're done. If you use a rattle can primer that is the same colour and the majority of the mini and you can paint a load of models up to a decent standard really quickly. Units don't need to be painted stupidly well as a group of minis in the same scheme looks good.

@arielsanchez465 2 жыл бұрын

As a mediocre painter I'm beginning to embrace this way of thinking.

@hawaiinshirtguy 2 жыл бұрын

I started painting for it's own sake and like... damn, I found I REALLY don't have fun trying to paint a whole unit "properly". I love spending 8 hours on one character model, but repetition is mind breaking. Don't understand how some people can paint 30 man regiments of troops without resorting to every speedpainting hack under the sun Prime, couple base colours, drybrush, oil wash into a feeling of bliss and accomplishment. It really pisses me off when painting channels on YT will talk about drybrushing like it's some kind of scrub technique. It's 20% of the work for like 80% of the effect if you use a makeup brush.

@timsmith4548 2 жыл бұрын

I've (almost) finished a viking army of 130-ish minis. (I have 17 more to go that need primed) This took me about a year to get through with several side projects to distract me and keep from burning out on them. I enjoyed not having to make them all the same and to not go crazy with a tonne of shading and highlights. I contrast that with the Space Marines I spent so much time on when I was still enjoying playing 40K several editions ago (One Page rules may rekindle that interest, we'll see.) As far as anyone caring about your painted miniatures, its nice to play against a painted army versus the grey ghosts, no matter what level you're at. Save the "40-hour paint jobs per miniature" for the competitions. I'll do my table top quality and enjoy the GAME.

@ronnyrdr6553 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting all around. After watching this video all i wanted to see were more clips of you painting your philosophy. It doesnt have to have to be a full army or 300 guardsment offcourse XD.

@TheCreativeKobold 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree with the points in this video. Personally, I would much rather have mediocre paint jobs on my minis, than using unpainted minis when gaming. Not all the minis I paint, are painted to the same quality level. If I did, I'd have a handful of painted minis, and thousands of gray plastic pieces. And that wouldn't really look great in play.

@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын

Once I stopped pressuring myself to paint everything well, I got SO MUCH more done!

@TheCreativeKobold 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, absolutely! I've personally been saying lately that if you want to get your minis ready for play, you need to lower your standards a bit. Less paints, less paint steps, less fixing misplaced paint, etc. :) Let's keep on painting, and getting those minis on the table! Cheers! :D

@mouthfulofdirt 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. This theory applies even more for smaller scales of minis, especially ww2 ones. Everything is brown lol I had to internalise this when painting dozens of tiny lil guys

@JachymorDota 2 жыл бұрын

Simple Blanchitsu everyone can do with great effect: White/egg primer, liberally apply Nuln Oil, drybrush with white again. Finished. Add blood effects where needed for extra flash or choose a single primary color for things like cloth and banners and apply with wash/contrast.

@ianwilbanks3015 Жыл бұрын

I love "the guy from Midwinter Minis, whatever his name is". So good!

@oleww50 Жыл бұрын

“The Guy from mid winter minis” gems like this with a straight face 😅🤘

@deepred6041 2 жыл бұрын

I'm beginning to think we were separated at birth.

@riverbank7971 2 жыл бұрын

I use either Dulux one coat or hammerite- both have great coverage and obliterate al detail so every model can stand in as proxy for any other model since all detail is gone.