Please dont play DMC2. Its honestly a waste of time.

Would probably be better to skip ahead to 3 lol

DMC 2 is the exact opposite of DMC 1.

Play 2 last 😂

Yo, under the mayo i thought you tpsaid that dmc 5 has a bad story abd its bad that you had to beat the game to 7nlock the harder difficulties and the game is bad

I figured he just misspoke.

He intentionally says weird shit like this sometimes.

​@jellevanderputten2909 you mean he doesn't do his research properly.

It was supposed to be resident evil 4

I think he meant for some reason he just says weird stuff that everyone knows isn't right...I've seen it before too

Do not torture the man.

Wow, one of the worst and most depressingly disappointing sequels ever released

Absolutely no.

The canon event of the hack n slash genre

PLS PLAE DMC TOO

Cracks me up every time!

Clearly a Dark Souls reference. Even Devil May Cry being inspired by Dark Souls is truly a lovely sight.. 😊

Yep, all enemy attacks do 20% more damage in that version IIRC, it's crazy

Correct, NTSC versions of old games were often harder than their original Japanese counterparts, that includes many Capcom games such as the original Resident Evil which was also made harder in the NTSC non-Director's Cut version. In the case of DMC1, the NTSC PS2 version is harder with a 20% buff in damage and health of enemies. HD Collection is based on the Japanese PS2 release

One of many resident evil fours

I don't believe you.

@@underthemayo he’s right. it was supposed to be Resident Evil 4 but they changed it after it became too different from survival horror.

@@JIreland1992 really????

misinformation Clearly it was a marvel vs capcom prototype

And the Nobodies were once monsters created from the G-Virus.

​@@ultraspinalki11So that's why they have big eyeball attacks

No way!

Exactly and RE4 was supposed to be an Urban Fisticuffer game.

he already finished dmc3 when this video was posted

Yellow was great for a few missions in dmc3 but became too much for me. I'll get into it in the video.

I had no idea what that meant, always chose gold cause it sounded better

When is the dmc 3 video coming out ​@@underthemayo

I get it. Yellow orb was the original DMC 3 style. Special edition introduced gold orbs later.

But with Drakengard the rest of the game always sucks too so it fits better.

I'm pretty sure DMC came before Drakengard.

That video and his Viewtiful Joe video are the best gaming related content on KZfaq

Yeah, cause what am I gonna add to DMC1 discussion that isn't already out there? It's better to just share my experience and talk about the gameplay aspects I enjoyed and didn't. Keep it short.

I guess she does have a bit of that look yeah.

Well, DMC Lady does not have a dick

That sounds awful.

I summoned you!

i'd also like to hear his perspective on it

I was kind like "He played DMC5, right?" Lady is in that one, albeit as far less of a main character than she was in DMC3

Not only that his comment on aiming the Divekick being harder due to camera is so dumb cause if you're locked on to a target and they're relatively stable, not moving all over the room then it's a non issue (also why would anyone go for a divekick when someone's that mobile anyway cmon use some sense). Sadly, Nightmare 3 made him gave up on the game then he just spammed items to get it over with and move on. No surprise there as that puzzle boss usually is a pain until the player figures em out but that is a tall order to ask of newcomers so ballsy game design there risking the final impressions of the entire game with that boss and the genre shift afterwards with the final boss.

Trust me dmc is worth it

I am pretty sure the style rank in dmc1 does reward using different moves, i think it is only agression based in dmc2.

​@@LeonardoStupidKenwayNo it definetly is aggression based, 3 was the game to start rewarding combo variety

@@LeonardoStupidKenway You can built up rank just by slash canceling or outright get S rank instantly by charging Nightmare β. It wasn't untill DMC3 that we got the style rank the DMC is known for.

OG DMC is designed in a way that allows freedom of Playstyle to shine regardless if you're a Stylish type, Optimal/Efficient type or a mix. DMC1's Ranking system (end of mission ranks I mean by that) works DOES NOT prioritize towards time which means it is absolutely possible for Style players to go beyond the required time requirement and still get the highest rank at the end of the mission (Note highest rank being S and not special bonus cause special bonus is just that.. a bonus & not a rank). Also OG DMC's ranking system is probably the least imposing or restrictive one in the series outside of DmC cause that game really doesn't give a single fuck about anything so anything goes which is something that high level players could at least appreciate. The way it works is also pretty genius as like you mention the three parameters of Time vs Damage vs Orbs (+ Item usage penalty). If a player satisfies any TWO out of those three primary requirements then they'd get S. That is why Style players can get still get S even if they don't make it in time as long as they either take very little damage or No Damage it entirely depending on the mission. Efficient players on the other hand can get S just by rushing through missions without much care for Style and still get a S for their efforts as well as long as they satisfy either the ORB or the Damage aspect. The game very clearly pushes more towards Style because of how the Orbs requirement work. It is generally much more easier to meet the orb requirement if you're doing well in combat in other words killing enemies at A or S which itself pushes player to go for that S on the Style meter for the moment to moment play. That being said it's still possible to not meet the orb requirement and just go for Time & Damage and still get that S. Regarding Style meter, It is both aggression based and variety based. The Style meter absolutely rewards varying up the attacks so I don't know why you'd even think that..Plus Taunting works to maintain meter from disappearing, same with using charged moves so it is very clear that one does not need to always be up in the enemy face or always be attacking to maintain the meter. Again OG DMC just allows more agency to whichever way a player chooses to go about it. Reaching S on Style meter can be as simple as turning on DT then just shooting repeatedly with EnI. Style meter overall throughout the series is very flawed and very EASILY exploitable once you know how it works so this isn't a shot towards OG DMC. The main purpose of that Style meter is to push newcomers towards approaching combat with variety in mind and for that I'd say across the entries in the DMC IP, it's sufficient but do realize that there's a reason why players after a certain point of play stop giving a shit about that meter entirely along with the mission rankings. Both the end of mission rankings and the Style meter have never been and probably never will be an accurate indication of how good a player truly is.

@@ship05u DMC1's ranking requirements shouldn't be looked as checklist. You get an S rank by reaching certain points threshold. It's not a very strict system, categories are rather means to earn enough points for the rank, not fixed goals in themselves. Playing stylishly is entirely up to a player's choice, because the game formally doesn't recognize style - it doesn't have any style points upon which player is judged. Style rank doesn't encourage, nor force move variety. The opposite is true, you can gain S rank during combat just by charging pistols, so in fact it encourages effective strats. There is variety of moves, but they don't serve the purpose of player expression. They're tools with their own utilities. Style is more of a byproduct of numbers of opitons that players have. Scoring ofc is its own challenge separate from beating the game. Still, there isn't big disconnect between it and playing well, as taking no dmg and playing efficiently are hallmarks of skill.

Yeah, DMC 3 can fuck you up even on Normal. More than DMC1 even.

@@Fedor_Kisliakov yeah especially if you play on yellow mode where you can only have 3 yellow orbs with you , and double if you play on vanilla dmc3 where normal was hard on that version

Seeing "Easy mode is now selectable" screen was like a punch to one's pride back in the day. I wish they go back to that kind of system just so they can out who are the ones that bothered to get good. Instead of gaming journalists bitching about "No Easy Mode".

@@danielgeronimo5538 fr

i dont think so, dmc 3 enemies are boring as hell and the level desing is trash after mission 13

Haha, you're me. I totally get what you mean with the R&C comparison. Another thing I find particularly great about the original DMC is that almost every enemy had a larger variety of attacks they could use against the player compared to most enemies in DMC3 for example(who just mostly shuffle towards you and had maybe one or two moves they could do)

Dmc2 goes too far. I like him here.

I'm the biggest fan of DMC series but still haven't played it , i need to rectify it someday, i have it on steam

It's just bland and easy to beat, nothing really happens

He did mention he'd be playing it on the flawed but much more accessible HD collection version of DMC3SE. Also there's not that much differences in both vanilla 3 and 3SE overall outside of features 3SE adds and slightly improving upon the JC frames. Also there's some enemy wave differences on DMD but still very minor. If you're speaking about normal mode difficulty then yeah I'd agree as 3SE normal is much more easier than vanilla 3 BUT only for the NA version of vanilla 3 as the rest of the world it's mostly the same. Even then vanilla 3s NA version normal is just 3SE 'Hard' mode so if he really wanted to then he can go check that out after 3SE normal playthrough by doing a NG for Hard and see for the differences though I highly doubt he would be spending that much time with any DMC game beyond the initial playthrough.

Oh I can't even imagine how EASY Dmc5's starting difficult is gonna feel now that Ive gone through DMC3! And yeah, newcomer perspective is important despite what some think. Games need to grow their audiences. Many new people need to come to sequels or they'll fail financially.

To be fair, there is *one* use for Round Trip where it works really well: Mundus 2 in DMD. Charge it and toss the blade while you use the shotgun (the best gun for Mundus 2), and you get lots of DT easily. When on DT, replace shotgun blasts with three fireballs+one charged fireball, and you do really solid DPS without risking much damage. It is *one* use, but it vastly surpasses DMC3's Drive, where there's literally zero circumstances to use it beyond style because of how slow it is.

"Everyone told me to NOT play DMC2".

She’s vital to the story in dmc3 barely in 4 she in 2-3 cutscenes but atleast she’s playable but the level design in Dante’s half is ass

Even the ending is exactly RE4.

Yeah I'm doing them all. Videos soon.

​@underthemayo will dmc 2 and 3 be in the same video cuz dmc 2 is trash, and there's not much to talk about in that game

Those years were highly focused on PC gaming. Unreal Tournament and Command And Conquer Generals

I I like it lmao.

I played Bayonetta a million times before and honestly I liked it for maybe just one section but it was just way too freaking long. I came kick Angel Ass and I'm playing arcade for some reason

It is a prequel, it's Dante's Awakening for a reason, but from a gameplay standpoint especially for older souls, DMC1 is a better introduction to the franchise. That's not to say DMC3 isn't good at selling itself, it absolutely does it well.

Just play release order, except for 2 pf course

3 is usually recommended as the first game for someone getting into DMC because it's aged far better than DMC1. I absolutely love DMC1 and think that people who say it has "aged like milk" are just wrong but it does have some elements that might give someone the wrong impression about the franchise that it eventually moved past. The controls in 1 are a bit stiff, Dante's moveset is a lot more limited, swapping between weapons is super clunky, there's no level select feature, and Itsuno cared way more about making a strong story than Kamiya ever has (not a knock against Kamiya, his design philosophy is just way more arcade-oriented). Basically the only thing in DMC3 that has arguably not aged well is the lack of Freestyle mode that would become the series' standard but that's a case of "the new systems introduced in the game were refined later." You might say that there are a lot of annoying enemies but honestly games like DMC1 and 5 having few to no annoying enemies are exceptions rather than the rule, usually hack and slash games with any good amount of enemy variety have a couple that are just annoying. 3 is simply way more palatable for most people and gives better context on what the franchise is, since honestly it's more Itsuno's franchise than Kamiya's.

@@Zetact_ There's either very few to no annoying enemies in both DMC4 and DmC. DMC2 hate it or tolerate it also have no annoying enemies either (the bosses are different story lol). 3s Enemy design on lesser demons (bosses overall goes for quantity over quality too but I'm mostly talking about lesser demons here) is horrendous across the scale with only saving grace being the scythe wielding types that the game also is very aware of as it constantly is shoving one of those type of demons at the player on regular intervals at least on the normal mode in hopes that the player doesn't notice the other horrible enemy types too much. That illusion goes away very quickly if one plays 3SE on harder difficulties esp DMD past the mission 03. There's a reason why you'd see most Style players only be fighting Sloths in their showcases. Most players playing and dipping after the initial normal playthrough is actually working in favour for DMC3SE. So I'd say that DMC3 is the exception in the IP when it comes to enemy design that's actually not very fun to play against or with at large unfortunately. THAT is what ages DMC3 the most along with the part that games that came after it simply expanded on it's ideas in very different ways to the point people had to mod in Style Switcher to it to keep it somewhat relevant in terms of gameplay. That all being said DMC3 or 3SE is still a very good and fun game with a high skill ceiling. It is quite expressive for the players as well just that if only the enemy design of that game didn't hold it back from reaching further heights.

As someone who has watched Mayo's content ... DMC1 is the game I would predict he would enjoy the most because it is the most "traditional survival horror-like" of the franchise. You can still feel some of the classic Resident Evil influence on it, which is absolutely gone later in the series.

I had issues with the camera AND the navigation. I got so badly lost

i have completed it at 100% on all dificulties and i hate the enemies, the umbalanced dmd and level most of level desing

DMC2 is the most challenge matters game ever and that's what the video will be talking about.

Not every fight is tough. But here and there, they throw a good one at you. It was enough to get me into it overall.

@@underthemayo yeah i understand your sentiment, dmc5 in comparsion is much more easy at the starting difficulty, i personally didnt like dmc1 because while i like the interconnected level desgin the combat itself kinda felt outdated for me because of how basic and slow it is

His statements about not wanting to use options unless the game actively "forces" him to are definitely showing through. Things like jumping on Shadow's spike, shotgun hiking, roll cancelling the grenade gun or even just using charged Ifrit attacks aren't ever "forced" onto the player but they're highly effective moves in their contexts that are fairly easy to do, fun and stylish. They're things that the game doesn't require for progression but that make it way easier.

I would NEVER!

Word of mouth is way more effective. I'm just going to help my friends avoid this channel.

Yup I noticed when I played pretty cool.

@@underthemayo Yeah! One last thing: don't play DMC3 on PS5 because is very "Restricted" of what you can do. The switch version is better, the pc version (with a mod) is the original intendet gamplay. Sorry for my english. Bye Mayo! 😀

@@aurearatio I'm on the PC so it's the HD collection

@@underthemayo Ok! So when you will play, you will realized the restricted decision on Dante gampley. The Director ( Ito) said that players didn't ready for the full potential and gamplay but now we are ready, in fact, the HD Switch version ( I don't remember on HD PC) hasn't one of the 2 Restricted gamplay and from DMC 4 Dante is the best!. That's It. I'm so sorry for thees messages, but I want you play DMC 3 like initialy intendent. Now I'm so curious to see what happend! 😀If you want others suggest ( for example Batman Arkham Saga...ther is 2 gadget hidden in Batman Arkham Knight from the previous Arkham city!), contact me!

glad to see someone giving 2 at least some props. It is personally my least favorite, but i think the game still has merit.

Argosax is also a testament of Dante's power. The game has some flaws that warrants the hate it gets, but de-canonizing its story is a disservice to feats accomplished by Dante, as Argosax is arguably one of the strongest demons seen in the franchise and he completely obliterated him, to think he hasn't even gone full Sparda yet since no SIN Devil Trigger.

@@danielgeronimo5538 Absolutely. Dante is a WMD in DMC 2. And there's so many cool moments. The coin toss, the motorcycle ride to hell, his whole persona. Great stuff.

I don't believe it!

@@underthemayo lol. Just telling ya what I heard. It was a long time ago I read this. And I remember a translated superfamitsu article talking about it.

@@underthemayo 😉 Sorry I'm not up with what's hip. Didn't realise it twas a meme.

I mean 4 and 5 literally just take 3's combat and improve upon it. 3 has a better story though and 1 has the best levels and enemies

I get that people have a reason to say 3 is the best but I dunno DMC3 has some absolute garbage boss fights and enemies. The fallen are straight up the worst enemies in any action game ever and DMD mode is poorly balanced

​@@CursedShinobiClownit's worth getting thru the couple rough chapters because it is otherwise easily the best in the series.

​@@CursedShinobiClown DMC 3 DMD be like: "let me open up this spreadsheet to calculate the exact time and frame this enemy will devil trigger, and determine the exact frame where he's open to be launched by rebellion. Once he's up, I'll enemy step jump cancel with agni and rudra about 200 times, and if I timed it perfectly the enemy should die even with his DT buff. This will however, cause every other enemy In The room to DT. In which case I need to use perfect timing and swordmaster combos if I hope to survive" DMC 5 DMD be like: "hee hurr damage sponge, time for the BIG COMBOS SMOKIN SEXY STYLE!!!"

@@BeaniesFrogMan DMC3 on DMD can be perfect S or SS'd without using JC at all so no one needs perfect timing not even SM combos to make it through. DMC3 and 3SE by extension is very much cool with allowing players to go with whatever their loadouts may be for the most part. Also the excel sheets stuff is mostly there for the Combo heads and even then it's mostly for those who wanna combo DMD DT'd enemies so it's a niche of a niche kinda thing. AND even then you can just helmbreaker/ shotgun twice or 1 bazooka shot then hightime, no maths needed just for launching enemy but double launch is a different story.

I don't remember what the vortex was so I don't know if I used that or not. I also didn't notice any elemental weaknesses, but again I've only played this once. And wow! Really!? You mean DMC1 wasn't originally a street fighter game??? Say it isn't so!

Berserker too easy, play befalling of night, this mod will break your soul, i even Wonder if the Guy who made that mod is not depressed, cause oh boy, the number of super salvadors, regeneradores, and fuckin hammer cows is bullshit but the challenge of the year

You're 100% right and both videos on both games will focus on that. Major ultrakill vibes from DMC2.