fr tho

Yet

Tony's insulted literally everyone though, so I don't think that really counts

@@sara-vf5xz you have a point

LMAO

and his plan even worked, unlike other super villains plans, lol

Michael Rivers Zemo is in my top 3 favorite MCU Villains. He's the most relatable on a bunch of different levels. He has no powers, he's not a God, he's an ordinary soldier, he's not a robot, etc. He's almost a more relatable version of the Joker. A man who just came out of nowhere, that could almost be anyone.

R.I.P

Mmmmm I love black Panther meat on my Chadwiches

@@Adirondaque what? It’s a pun?

Except for maybe Chris as Thor?

@@andywu1981 it’s a very... not cool pun I mean CHADWICK’S DEAD

Oof

May he rest in peace!

Rip

Yeah we know

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Dread Pirate Robin XD That sounds like something Sam would say

@MASON ZWILLING hi

Can you move your seat up? ...No.

@@wingedbluj1674 I love how this was repeated in TFATWS

...... That's one of the pettiest things in all of superhero cinema and i love it.

rip

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

As someone who is a mamas boy. Even if the man responsible for the death was my friend or one of my friends buddy. I'd do the same thing as Tony. You killed my mother. There is no excuse. And I will never forgive you. God this movie this film has some of the best dialogue and scenes I don't care what anyone says.

@@yoshijb9428 i understand having an initial freak out like Tony but i think being not in control at all of your actions is an excellent excuse. Hydra (specifically who ever gave that order) is to blame, the winter soilder is just the weapon they used to do it.

@@-s-henderson-7333 exactly. Although it didn't help for Hydra to no longer be present for tony to aim his anger at. Bucky was the only one left although his mom def got the easier side of the stick than Howard's savage beat down

The KZfaq comment section sure is full of murderers.

@Anne :3 What do you mean by that?

Ya Boy Guzma right. Even if he isn’t directly referenced, his presence is still there

100th like ik it doesn't matter but it feels goos :)

Kind of ironic he's supporting Tony Stark since the Accords conflict with those ideals. Of course I believe Tony is manipulating him a bit by not giving him the full details. Simply "He wrong but thinks he's right so that makes him dangerous" as Spider-Man told Captain America in their fight.

It's implied that it hasn't been long. Uncle Ben probably died only a few months before Civil War. Peter says something along the lines of "I don't want to give Aunt May any more to worry about right now" in Homecoming. The loss of Ben is still fresh.

sure, but couldn't it be easier to say what ben would want don't get me wrong I do not want to loose tom holland EVER. But the way the mcu sees characters like aunt may compared to the comics is just not as natural.

Olivia McDonagh rhodey...?????

@@Ella-it3qm To be fair, we don't know when mcu rhodey and tony first became friends, it could have been before or after tony began working with the military as it's go to high end arms dealer, but either way the films never tells us. However in the first iron man film when tony has the revelation that weapons kill "good guys" to and he decides no more stark tech weapons for anyone, the first thing rhodey does is scold him over the decision and basically says get your head in the game. So while rhodey is 100% team tony now, he wasn't always firmly in tony's corner.

C Bowman if I’m remembering correctly, they became friends at MIT, which was before Pepper. And I don’t remember rhodey acting like that in im1, but while we are on the topic of scolding him for his decision, Pepper did worse and abandoned him when he tried to build another suit. Which she did again in im3 when his anxiety was revealed

@Laurens Brettschneider imo it's hard to think of someone who just figured out their parents were murdered in cold blood (instead of a car accident, as he had believed for decades) and is facing off with that exact killer (whether he was brainwashed or not) as "bratty"... tony isn't reacting like a spoiled child being told he can't have what he wants. he's literally just reacting with the gut instinct of a child to hurt the person who killed his beloved mother. rather than labelling it bratty, i'd say his reaction/wording was completely understandable.

@Laurens Brettschneider You know what else isn't appropriate, not telling your friend how his parents really died for 2 years. And even then he still wasn't the one who told Tony.

"Zemo is a weak villian" literally did the one thing that no other villian could do until then Not loki (even with the use of the hulk) Not ultron (even with the use of the hulk) And...um...am i seeing a pattern here?...

ahem star lord

@surfitlive xD i think the hulk benched himself in infinity war after the beginning xdd

surfitlive nah the real factor is hawkeye, every fight he’s in he wins

Jim Bob Jason if only he hadn’t taken that break to go have a month long game of tag with his childhood friends. Then we wouldn’t have endgame.

tony's sass is the best

Man the humor in marvel movies was just a lot more fun

Sebastian Stan is an extremely underrated actor.

Sebastian Stan is one of the best actors of this decade. Especially in the falcon and the winter soldier wakandan scene

Damn, i almost forgot that, thanks for that good of a explanation!

Moms mean a lot to superheroes, just ask Batman. Yes, that’s a Martha joke.

Sort of. Tony knows his father was killed because of what he was involved in. His mother was innocent.

@@Lodogg WHY DO YOU SAY THAT NAME!?

The emotion in his voice when he said that, sounded like a scared grieving child to me. Great line read

Row Vine that’s actually really cool, never thought of that

Damn you're so right lmao

THIS

*Ding!*

I like to think he stopped his counter attack when he found out he was fighting a kid. Winter Soldier experience aside, he doesn't want to hurt kids.

aw jees rick

Damn straight

I was hoping it'd be 3x.

I thought the 2nd one stopped by his glasses hence the black eye he has for the rest of the movie

No, no. He didn't know it was Bucky. He says as much. But he knew it wasn't an accident, he knew it was Hydra

@@Ikajo But he suspected it might have been Bucky. That's made clear in the scene in the Winter Soldier. Zemo only confirmed it.

@@sara-vf5xz Suspected wasn't knowing. And Steve wasn't the only one who knew. Natasha did as well and she never said anything either.

I really think that Chris should've gotten an oscar or something for his performance as Captain America. The character is an extremely difficult role to play and is very complicated and complex; on paper Captain America is probably a character I wouldn't have liked that much because he seemed so self-righteous but Chris's performance seemed so natural and it gave the character a lot of depth. Plus the fact that he is nothing like the character really speaks volume to his acting performance. I'm not trying to diss anyone but for mcu actors like RDJ who play a character like Iron Man who they are actually really similar to, it's easy for them. But when it comes to a character like Captain America who doesn't even seem human and no one could be similar to him because of how perfect he is, it's difficult to play that kind of role yet Chris did it amazingly. All the actors in mcu are amazing and they all deserve awards for their performances but Chris definitely deserves it more than most.

@@mish2637 Agreed! Chris Evans' acting and the Russos' direction really made Capt America one of the best/popular superheroes in the MCU. It was so well done.

Gonna show this to my bf because he thinks civil war was a useless movie 🤡

100th like!

No,he would,because thanos would have had 4 stones before facing the avengers,making him unstoppable,the only changes is tony calls cap in new york,meaning they never go to titan,they all go to wakanda,take out the mind stone safely so that wanda can destroy it,BUT meanwhile Thanos already has the space,power,soul and reality stones,making him unstoppable,meaning despite him not getting all stones,he would kill all the avengers in wakanda,every last one of them,conquer earth,kill half of its population and continuing to doing that to every planet,meaning Zemo saved the universe from Thanos without knowing or Strange can give the time stone to thanos in enxchange to spare the ones that are alive,allowing him to get the mind stone and snap,the problem is that way more people would have died,making Endgame fate not a sure thing for the avengers to win

So civil war is crucial because it allowed the avengers to win in endgame

@@alphagamer9505 Alternately, Tony calls cap into new york, which he was plausibly in greater proximity to, and the team rolls in there, successfully beating Ebony Maw and Black Dwarf before hijacking their ship with the whole team in tow, including vision. Some techno-babble from Tony and Peter later for how they hijacked the ship, they're able to set up a better plan than the one that almost beat Thanos in the real sequence of events, and actually do beat him because of it, especially because Thor would still show up, but at wherever the trap was, the army doesn't go to earth since Vision was in space, and there are plenty of people to put Star Lord into a full nelson while people pull the gauntlet off of Thanos' hand. :D

I honestly don't understand why people cannot understand that...

People are obsessed with hindsight

They're acting like the guy had one plan and somehow they all turned out perfectly even though its never like that, amazes me that people just watch mcu movies and dont analyze or look into anything, honestly

Going to like but 666

nestlecookie right

Jarvis grew a spine. Just like tony told him to.

I honestly like Friday she has the best line " you can't beat in hand to hand combat"

Man, Jarvis was so great in the Agent Carter show.

He really deserved a credit in Endgame with the rest…

And now it pays off in Falcon and winter soldier.

@@paullewis4585 Am i wrong for wanting more Winter Soldier than Falcon? Don't get me wrong i liked seeing Sam's personal life issues but Bucky's seems of course way more tragic and interesting

@@zacharyjackson1829 You're not the only one, dude.

@@JR-pf9in I think they're focusing on him a lot more in the second season

@@zacharyjackson1829 the writers, I do believe, said when the title changes to captain America and the winter soldier, was deliberate. They said Bucky still has some development left to truly be the White Wolf

Because it hurts to hear him say it!

Because they weren’t really friends?

TevesGaming They were ABSOLUTELY friends. Friends don’t always have to be on the same page. Two different paths to the same goal still achieves that goal. But there was an affection that Tony and Steve had for each other. Their differences were philosophical, but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t care about each other. You saw that in, literally, every subsequent film. Particularly Endgame. These two men genuinely cared about what the other one thought.

@@kcwells2751 ....Stony shippers😏

TevesGaming dumb bitch

I love finding gems like this in the comments

Damn, I never thought of it that way

Holy shit that's awesome. And sad. Imma go cry now.

Nicholas Dobbie you're breaking my heart dude stop

Nicholas Dobbie Why are you cutting onions? :'(

Not necessarily Bc remember Bucky didn't know Howard that well at all. Steve and Howard worked much more closely together. Bc notice Howard said "sergeant Barnes"? And not "Bucky?" His friends called him Bucky.

​@@megmur1766 Also, Bucky didn't even remember who HE was, due to his brainwashing. Remember how close he came to killing Steve in Winter Soldier? The lights were on, but 'Bucky' definitely wasn't home. The Winter Soldier didn't know, or care, who either of them were. It's impossible to imagine what it would be like to remember actions that you had no control over at the time. As you said, Bucky wasn't particularly close to Howard during the war, but the memory of killing someone you knew, and seeing the pain you unwillingly caused their family, has to be immensely painful. The worst part is that the people who were actually responsible, the ones who gave the order to kill Howard and take the serum, probably got away with it all.

@@laxxla yeah I think that's what screwed Bucky in the end. He was the last one left that tony could aim at.

@@laxxla the dude who have Bucky the order to kill Howard and Maria was killed by Zemo at the start of the movie

@@fedeeeeee Yes, but he was only a handler, and still following someone else's orders, too. He just did it willingly, unlike Bucky. An order like that probably came from pretty high up, especially as the Winter Soldier wasn't used for just any mission. We don't know if Pierce was in charge at this point, or if someone else gave that order. Which means that they may well have gotten away with it, and retired to live out the rest of their days in luxury. They may even have been one/some of the people on Bucky's list in FATWS, but since that was dealt with offscreen (ugh, don't get me started on THAT) we'll probably never know.

Or it's just a natural instinctual reaction to Cap's shield coming at him so quickly.

Nah, the sadder part was the look on Tony's face when he realized cap went for his arc reactor without hesitation

@@nostalgicotaku2977 their objective was to stop his suit, not truly harm him.

I guess you could say Cap practically broke his heart (;´༎ຶٹ༎ຶ`)

In the final battle, Tony's only goal was to kill Bucky in vengeance. Bucky and Steve never had the intention of killing him, only stop him from killing, and i think in that final moment where Tony raises his hands it shows that he misread their intentions and its a big pill for him to swallow, that he was willing to kill when they were not

All Cap movies have been pretty good. Can't say the same for the other individual movies.

idk ....the winter solider is perfect for me .....so civil war is a 2nd

Cap's the only character so far with a consistently good trilogy. The Iron Man sequels weren't that good, neither of the Thor movies were that impressive.

+Goulactic X I agree. Winter Soldier's spy espionage change of pace from the rest of the MCU for me makes it marvels best movie.

daley610 almost on the same level of The dark knight and im not joking

Elizabeth Olsen has reached the “when she smiles I smile, when she cries I cry” pantheon like Natalie Portman.

Scott Lang approves so we have no choice but to Stan

Down. Bad?

@@WeezerFan505 down bad, i wasn't based 1 year ago. but i still think that scene is funny

She's the embodiment of :]

171QA *100 wins

171QA 15 wins

#WakandaForever

#WakandaForever

#WakandaForever

#WakandaForever

#WakandaForever

Cap found out from Zola. And Zola really only hinted at it. "History can be changed." Something like that.

But that's General Ross for ya. A power hungry man who is a hypocrite.

Ross didn't have anything to do with Abomination. It was Blonsky's own choice to go rogue and become Abomination, because he was power hungry.

Black Widow also gave Cap the secret files of the Winter Soldier. Hence, not part of the data dump.

DON'T LECTURE ME ABOUT THE WAR, YOU DIDN'T FIGHT IN IT.

CinemaSins has always been garbage. I'm glad channels like CinemaWins and TheBirdman are out there to expose them for what they are. Clickbaiting, low quality content pushing assholes

KillerGames Jay Exci, too

@@the_competent_gamer9454 nah

You do realise CinemaSins is satire right?

@@SwiftyNinjasGaming It *was* satire. What it's turned into can't seem to make up it's mind about what it is. James Gunn even said, "You should still be accurate about what your satirizing, otherwise it's just shitty satire". TheBirdman (Even with all his whinging about SJW this and snowflake that) pretty handedly rips cinemasins to shreds over inconsistencies and things they get just plain wrong. Cinemsins is just about shitting all over everything and pretending to be precise and consistent, but when they screw something up, they hide behind being satire in order to defend themselves from criticism.

dbzmaster1213 them being opposite I kinda the point

yes - I was just mentioning that as a lead-in to the rest of my comment

I guess there's going to bound to be some personal opinions leaking in on which one you liked more. If you had issues with Civil War then you'll likely be more fond of Cinema Sins but those who really dug it will more enjoy Cinema Wins. So I guess that means I'm obviously more on the later but yeah I really loved Captain America 3 and much prefer this video as honestly felt like Cinema Sins and heck even honest trailers were desparately looking at things to nitpick to go "okay I know DC fans think we're Marvel Fan boys for hating on BvS and other things but hey look we can do the same to Marvel movies" except their points just feeling forced. Hell Cinema Wins pretty much broke down why Zemo's plan not only ins't overly convoluted but really works for the movie and isn't just concidence after concidience like others tried to say it is.

Yeah just imagine cinemasins roasting him while he is just saying how cinemasin's voice is amazing.

You know how CinemaSins did a CinemaSins on CinemaSins, CinemaSins should do a CinemaSins on CinemaWins while CinemaWins does a CinemaWins on CinemaSins. Try saying this 10X fast.

"All of that for some boobs"

Olivier Pineau LMAO

And power of plot

@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 How did he have the power of plot?

"Patience and experience, with that you can do whatever you want"

And he's one of the only villains who actually accomplished his objective. Due to his efforts,in the long run,the Avengers were no more.

@S. I. V. I was talking about the events in Infinity War,they weren't together there

Stan Lee said that to Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield also..

P Leviathan proof?

Lol, yeah. So indestructible he's died 3 times now. But, he DOES keep coming back, so that's something.

TOM IS LITERALLY THE CHOSEN ONE MY GOD-

I think you mean genius billionaire playboy philanthropists

everyone say thank you rhodey

you definitely know he was not a casualty and was healed by Wakandan doctors, yes?

The fall is a great scene especially in theaters. He’s hit and as soon as he says “I’m dead stick” he realizes it. He can’t eject, there’s no equipment so he can’t time the fall or land “correctly” (as correctly as you can at height) and you only hear the wind through the eyeholes.

but that is a stupid stance form asoilder. he knows first hand how useless the UN is.

bell110 Cinema Sins is the best with the Fast and Furious franchise. They nailed it with #FF8

Thats kinda their job they've said over and over they nitpick needles shit on purpose

CinemaSins is ok for the giggles but the negativity is just toxic

@@yugurtz as of late they aren't ok even for that

And every organization has an agenda

take the looks on the events they use for the accords. if they had their way New york would be a radioactive wasteland. millions killed, and major trade up destroyed affecting all the world's economy. so the Avengers damage is far less and thus the lesser evil. the Hekicarriers. we know they released all the sheild files. and what they said those ships launch and 20 million people are dead. msot who actually die are hydra agents and the damaged limited to the sheilds location. so again lesser evil. Sokovia is their only defense and even there it's not the Avengers fault but TONY'S maybe the worlds sicne they failed to capture all hydra agents. the Wanda incedent. they are goign aftger another hydra agent and they think bank robbery but turns out it's him going after a bio weapon. and her move only 14 die were if on the ground at least 100 are dead, maybe more if she wasn't there. also the accords can not stand legal muster. what we know of them vioaltes at least one US constutional right and vioaltes a couple UN human rights so it has no standing.

I totally disagree. If the Avengers aren't as omnipresent anymore, the incentive to measure up to them and try to beat them would go immensely. So while the world might not have fewer villains in total, it would definitely have fewer "supervillains" who try to match the Avengers in power level.

@@megmur1766 So have individuals who don't tolerate a governing body above themselves

@@doomse150 I don't think that's the issue. They didn't even try to negotiate with the avengers. They just all got together, put together 300 pages and demanded they comply. That's not how you facilitate trust or begin a partnership with some of the most powerful ppl on the planet. And Thor is literally a god. How did they plan on making him comply exactly? It was just stupid strong handed tactics and it didn't have to be.

Couldn’t agree more

You ghys haven't seen the Loki fans 🤣 they hate the Russo brothers. While I like Loki as a character myself I don't hate Avengers 3 and 4

I must say, endgame was their best feat, infinity war is the better movie (it was inevitable(pun intended))

Infinity War is miles better

Infinity war was a masterpiece

No please it's too soon. ;-;

Snap!

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Hmmm a being made of (at least partially) vibranium, controlled by the most powerful AI ever made, and powered by an infinity stone...he SHOULD be nearly unstoppable. BUT marvel said oh shit wait we did a bad here...how do we stop him.. oh lets just make him useless so he dies.yeah YEAH.. OH and then we can use that anytime we make someone too strong *cough cough* Thor *cough cough*

Master Reaper SPOILERS FOR ENDGAME I mean, at least Thor had a good reason as to why he was useless. However, him vs Thanos was great.

Olivia Rose Sebastian Stan is especially great in this movie overall. You can really feel the torment that he has, and how it weighs upon him. You can really feel how much remorse he has, and how he’s frightened. He embodies Bucky’s character perfectly.

I couldn't agree more!

Yup

ENDGAME SPOILER⤵ I thought this when i noticed how sad he was a Tony's funeral in Endgame. He never apologized to Tony, who just saved the universe.

Zaya Moone Ouch...my heart. 😭

Yeah either that or "what the hell did tony seriously bring a kid" or maybe both lol

He's stunned because barely anyone can do that, let alone a 16 year old kid that Bucky realizes is in danger because he's in a serious fight, so it's just sort of weird

rachel b l 14*

Bagel Master Bucky looks surprised not because Spider-Man caught his hand but because he speaks like a kid he's surprised a child stopped his punch

I like how he heard his voice and was like "I'm fighting a KID?! And he cauGHT MY ARM-"

I was literally so confused

I think you mean Chadwick Boseman WAS the best person to play the Black Panther.

G C why the fuck

And now, dr doolittle

And Charlie Chaplin

Yh and the guy who faced a dragon also solves murders with a the dragon, who is also a wizard, who is also a detective, who is also a docter.

And the best snaper

And Tony Stank

Jasper Marcus Well, they put him in Bucharest because the actor that plays Bucky is actually from Romania, and Bucharest is the capital. It was a little nod towards Sebastian Stan, the actor. But I guess you could say Buck arrest too 😂

Or Bucky rest

oH MY GOSh

Why should i appreciate that

Definitely NOT Undying awesomeness Apparently not.

Even the room service was speaking with a perfect German accent. Attention to detail was great.

No Love well in iron man one they talked the exact urdu when subtitles mentioned (speaking urdu) marvel really cares about that stuff... i remember in batman first movie ra al gaur speaks urdu it was littrally just mumbling

Rafay Monam Ras al Ghul would speak arabic as his background is based somewhere in the Arabian Peninsula. His name is also made of Arabic words. The Ten Rings soldiers in Ironman 1 speak Urdu because they’re from somewhere in Afghanistan

DH Shawon dude all i m saying is that the official subtitles say that he is speaking urdu while he never actually spoke urdu and tbh i also learned a little bit arabic and i can also tell that they way he talks is also not arabic

Rafay Monam Ahh I see what you mean

Well spotted! Do you know what the Tom & Jerry reference was?

@@JobiWan144 I wanna know that too

“Aah, finally! Somebody who speaks English.”

Fun fact about the tunnel chase sequence: That's almost all practical effects. They really are running in that tunnel, on strips of material being dragged behind some of the cars which allows them to literally run faster than the traffic. And the scene where Bucky catches the bike and mounts it was also practical. :D

@@AndaraBledin that's so amazing! Do you know if there are behind the scenes videos for them? I've looked but had no luck

The one thing Old friends and new friends can agree on is their mutual friend is the man when he can get a five second open mouth kiss pre combatZ

Sebastian Stan needs an Oscar

In Infinity War, the Hulkbuster loses his entire left arm, and Cull Obsidian loses his arm when Wong cuts it off. hahaha

and then in the beginning of Endgame they cut off Thanos' hand lmao

Who lost an arm in Winter Soldier?

and Hulk essentially broke his arm after his snap

@@ZackKolin well, the winter soldier

Tyler Hepburn yep, true!!!

V-Rex it is his A.I which is also his assistant

F.R.I.D.A.Y. should have just done the "Analyze his attacks" bit from the start. He can totally counter Cap that way. And does. Why he didn't do it earlier is another story.

Tony wasn't entirely prepared to kill Cap at first. It was only when Cap REALLY started hurting him that Tony realised it was all or nothing to avenge his parents. In short, Tony made the decision too late to be of any help in the final seconds. To avoid being one-sided, I think both characters match each other. Sure, Iron Man has a fancy suit with lots of gadgets, but aside from being smarter and stronger than your average man, he relies on his suit very much in fights. Cap on the other hand is extremely powerful and doesn't rely on the suit or suchlike - its more or less his ideology that can bring him down (he nearly died to Bucky in the final fight in TWS because he refused to kill his friend; unlike Tony in this situation, he wasn't really prepared to kill, at least not until something terrible happened to Bucky).

Mr-Earwig yeah... Tony really didn't want to kill cap. I don't even know, whether he ever chose to go for the kill... Even pretty much at the end he tells cap to stand down, and that'S when the whole fight is almost over already.

he picked it up for bucky, saving him has always been his mission, and once he achieved that, he didn't need the shield anymore. a really goose bump giving moment in the movie.

purple fynn I'm not sure I understand what you mean by he picked it up for Bucky. He picked it up out of habit because he's Captain America. His being Cap has nothing to do with Bucky.

Hungry Hungry Hobo Steve deserves all the praise in the world for that scene honestly

ViaVia didn’t he sort of just beat a traumatized man into a pulp and was planning to leave him for the dead lol

No, he was protecting himself and his best friend from a guy in armored suit that tried to kill said friend. You know who was the villain in this scene? Tony. He attacked to kill, while Steve and Bucky wanted to disarm him. And by doing so proved what a hypocrite he was all along, being pro accords and crying that 'vigilanty is bad' and 'superheroes need to be held responsieble for their actions' just to ignore it and try to kill a guy that killed his parents. Has he a right to be angry - yes, but attacking a man that was brainwashed into being a human waepon and should not even be considered a murderer ('cos he had no choice or agency one can argue that Bucky should be considered innocent).

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Good eye!

wow i didn't consider that, nice one dude

Woah that's crazy

ya I thought he would kill him too. all 3 times I seen it

ikr? Its sweet candy in the sea of salt that is youtube.

Lol it's one of the only knockoffs I'm actually ok with.

+The Caped Inventor i agreed 100%

Video essays are my favorite genre on youtube.

Especially when you hope this channel's converse does the same films so you can play the "How many points of contention will there be?" game

its mostly centered on steve though and thor and hulk (Two big parts of the avengers team) arent here

Everyone in this thread is correct

It couldn’t be in avengers film because no hulk or Thor

Im glad someone finally has a good reason for this argument. But the problem is that the 3rd Captain America Film was supposed to be about him vs. some serpent organization that dresses like snakes. That sounds like it would be really boring. When the Russos heard of BvS, they switched it to Civil War instead. Im so glad they did, because we got an amazing breakup of the Avengers rather than just a standard solo movie against some serpents.

If it was an avengers film bucky would have definitely died. The plot armor Bucky had in this movie is huge, because the main character was on his side.

Brandon Layne yes.Black panther said that when he was talking to zemo at the end.

That point bothered me Cross Bones was proved in the last movie he was a Hydra agent and as a Hydra agent he would have wanted Steve to be dead anyway so even with out the ass kicking Cross bones received in the last movie he would have wanted Cap plus all the Avengers to die. and Hydra was created before Steve ever became a super soldier and if The founding Shield members would have killed Armin Zola Hydra would have been defeated in the first movie. The reason Cap even becomes a Super Soldier is because Dr. Abraham makes the Super Soldier serum and gives to the guy who becomes Red Skull. and then Cap gets the Super Soldier serum because he just wants to help people and does not care about the glory which also the reason Peggy starts to get endeared by Steve. And if Shield would have killed Zola instead of letting him go free Bucky would have never became the Winter Soldier thus saving Tony's parents and pretty much getting rid of the existence of Iron man and Tony becoming less of a dick because his mom is still alive so most of his enemies would not have a reason to try and get revenge on him. Thor would still probably come to earth because that changes nothing that happens on Asgard. Hulk probably still exists. Cap still gets found in the Ice but because Zola was killed Hydra does not infiltrate shield. also Steve and Howard get to have a cool reunion. So if Dr Abraham does not create super soldiers the MCU is just full of human conflict for the most part. and all 3 Iron mans are erased Cap 2 is erased because there is no Hydra infiltrating shield and no Bucky. the first Avengers happens just with no Iron Man. Age of Ultron is gone thus we get no Vision. Civil War does not Happen. Thanos can still be searching for the Infinity Stones and that would still lead him to earth most likley thus we get the Infinity Wars but with out iron Man and Scarlet Witch they would probably loose. So everything that happens throughout the MCU save us from Thanos wrecking everything.

*"if Shield would have killed Zola instead of letting him go free Bucky would have never became the Winter Soldier "* Zola had already performed some experiments on Bucky by the time he fell out of the train (how else could he have survived the fall?), and that mission was the one where Zola was *captured.* If SHIELD had killed Zola at that point, Bucky would probably still have become the Winter Soldier anyway.

Bronson Strock Right! People always want to trash both channels when in reality they both are necessary when watching a movie. And I'm the same way, I watch every EWW and I'll watch the EGA if there's a Cinemasins video about it already

To be brutally honest, I don't know why they haven't made a joint channel. The reviews would be fair, praising and criticising films in unbiased ways. Also, both commentators are very humorous in their own ways, which would make for pleasant reviews. Imagine how good it would be to actually have something like that in the movie industry.

Cinema Sins are often quite deceptive in their videos and their material should not be a substitute for real film criticism. This channel has a far better eye for cinema and their comedy never misrepresents the film. I really don't think they'd work well collaboratively.

Sam Plater I guess so. But it'd be a fun experiment anyway

You're entitled to your opinion of course but Sins was never laugh-inducing for me... Not that Wins makes me roll on the floor laughing but to its credit it makes me feel good about the movie it deals with. Sins was meant to be comedy, something that makes people laugh and not only ah wasn't laughing at narration & lack of realism being labeled a sin but eventually it got annoying.

The sadest version of the speech yet

And how Toney calls her a weapon of mass destruction, possibly aluding that he views her as the woman who made his best friend kill people against his will and took him away from him

But Steve also gets Wanda involved in his mess ........I don't see a reason for suddenly Clint and Wanda and ant man coming in the fight ...coz they had literally no motivation to do it....and I really think Wanda would have been more save in avengers facility with vision

@@shivanim1158 One of my only problems with Civil War is that few of the characters have chosen sides because of what they believe. Other than Tony and Steve, and to a lesser Rhodey, Sam, and Vision. But even the latter three are kind of just following their personal allegiance. If Steve weren't involved Bucky would've been on Tony's side, T'challa is in it for revenge, Peter is following Tony, Clint is following Steve, Scott is following Captain America, and Natasha is inherently hard to pin down anyway.

@@harrybarden6053 actually I see it more as him saying what the government said to him concering her.

@Damia Savon, dont forget that cap was the one who actually took the time to talk to wanda like an adult, but still be comforting at the same time. tony and vision feared wanda's powers, whereas cap and clint respected them which would have been important when it came to wanda picking a side.

Watched it in theatre with my SIL, nobody spoiled what Tom looked like to her (she only saw him full costume) and was on the fence, so when the card came up with “left hand free” and saw him walking in the hall 4 seconds in and she was sold.

That's what makes it so fun :) My favorite part about Tony Stark is that he's indistinguishable from RDJ. Which is which? You can't tell! I like that.

Breaking the 4th wall .

Aida Baida even though this version of Tony Stark is based on Superior Iron-Man (where he was an actual bad guy intent on controlling the world)? I understand why people like the actor and the comedy of his dialogue... but people actually like the character of Tony Stark? He's a grade A douchebag that wouldn't give you the time of day if you ever met him in real life... how can people like someone like that?

he's sarcastic

gotta love sarcasm

In what way?

While it's true we focus on the negatives way too much, we should also stay aware of the genuine flaws in a movie, which CinemaSins points out, amongst its other, more comedic sins

That's the internet in general. All they care about these days is negativity.

Vampyre Kai cinema sins is completely sarcastic. Literally dont take anything seriously in there videos. They even say not to, they describe themselves as assholes who are looking for literally any oppurtunity to sin the movie.

Honestly a lot of sins in Cinema sins are things nobody notices or cares about and sometimes they're running jokes or similar. Pretty sure Captain America even had a ton of sins removed which is there highest praise usually.

I'm aware they are being (mostly) sarcastic. But I'm just tired of that formula. Meh.

To be fair, no one watched BVS for Superman

I agree with everyone here lol

@@everymovievillain6738 thing is, we SHOULD'VE been excited for Superman. But we weren't,and that's sad.

Rachit Garg Exactly...

They try to humanise Superman , But Superman is literally a Super Being that tries to fit in with the rest of society . Not a normal human who becomes a super human .

Now cap is gonna take the star out of his suit. And his suit is gonna be more darker.

JustYellow On that subject, I love how the symbols on Cap's shoulders change throughout the MCU in correspondence with where he is in his story. In First Avenger, it's a star, signifying his trust is in his country. Then in Winter Soldier, it's S.H.I.E.L.D.'s crest, showing that his trust has shifted from the country as a whole to S.H.I.E.L.D. specifically, in a way showing how he's being lead down the wrong path. Once he learns the truth about S.H.I.E.L.D. (& the government as a whole), he goes back to the star, showing that he now trusts an idealized version of America. However this trust doesn't last (it can't with him), so he replaces the star with the Avenger's logo, signifying that he trusts his team, until in Civil War when even that starts to falter. Finally, he goes patchless, showing that sadly, Cap only trusts himself, & even then not completely. Fuck I love these movies.

@@Murdock_the_Pooch you put it in words

@@Murdock_the_Pooch Eventually it's just gonna be a falcon on one shoulder and a buck on the other.

@@wanderlustwarrior and a widow on the belt...

Captain Jakemerica he was taking about Antman and spiderman being the comedy in this film because it was stake less for them.

It was entirely stakeless. Nothing changed.

Chris Allen Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Nathaniel Ranney good argument

Chris Allen I was gonna type a list out of what changed, but my tablet is messing up, so here's the long version: screenrant.com/captain-america-civil-war-mcu-changes/ But I doubt you'll be convinced because haters gonna hate.