and you see chief reach out to them as he falls

The shot with the scientist Chief was talking to is straight up horror movie materiel

Hearing Doctor Tilson's scream go from organic to digital was, and still is, pretty terrifying. And then Cortana talks about hearing what was left of them. Definitely one of the best parts of the game

You know I think you hit 4 on the head of what it was. It was a leap of faith to try and fill massive shoes that fell painfully short. The extended universe around halo 4 and the forerunners is excellent but the game really came short.

I'm not gonna lie, that scene actually horrified me more than most shit, even in stuff that's supposed to be horror related. Guessing because as far as games like this goes, it's not something one tends to expect, which made it all the more impactful (for me anyways) And overall, the effects and way it was handled was just great. Fucking horrifying and freaky, but great.

The film was really a setup for the game's release. The ending of the film is the beginning cutscene of the first mission although altered

Am I the only one who actually loved that film unironically?

I enjoyed it to. The production on the customers and props where really nice

@@goldenshadowproductions no. Tons of people did and is the main reason why the new Halo show got put into production

@@goldenshadowproductions mate FUD was absolutely brilliant. I loved it.

I know right, very surprised he just glossed over that.

@@Masso-gy9yu yeah a he makes a big deal about how there should've been a cutscenes to explain her rampancy. No hate against him though, he probably just accidentally pressed a button that skipped it. Happens to the best of us.

can't forget that she was even showing signs of it back in halo 3 when the gravemind had her

And the music that plays during it fits so well

Kinda like he says that the story in terminals doesn't count because its "outside" when its literally part of the campaign...

The lack of emotion was really what people liked In the old games, but I see your motivation

And people who liked the "lack of emotion" (of which there is plenty if you know where to look) show an awful lot of emotion by whining about the emotion in H4 and beyond. If you can't handle Chief expressing even a little bit of emotion you have no business projecting onto him in the first place.

"Sometimes you don’t need the fate of the galaxy to feel like you lost everything." that's just halo reach

@@redrenegade7724 Actually, people dislike the fact that Halo 4 insisted on shoving it in your face without any aspect of subtlety. Fans like you prove exactly why it was such an annoyance. The people complaining about it were the ones able to see the abundance of emotion in the classic trilogy without having to have it spelled out for them, an entire arc of 2 and 3 being about Chief's regret over losing Cortana and the relief of having her back. People insisted that the reason we didn't like the new version of the Chief was because we wanted the soulless drone they'd seen in the classics, while in reality it was just ignorance to the truth that the Chief was always expressive, just reserved. If you can't handle the idea of people having valid complaints about a terribly written change in character you have no business projecting your inability to handle others' opinions in the first place. The issue was and always has been the people who rush to whine and complain and then insist it's the other side doing it, and then assert the side they don't like as being unworthy of associating themselves with the character, of expressing their valid opinions, or other nonsense.

@@Espartanica It's all very well to claim maturity but try not to do it while parroting someone's words back to them next time. Have a drink of water, calm down, and log back in later. You'll feel better and this whole comments section will be like a bad dream.

It’s all good!! We understand that stuff happens. Take a break if you need it, you deserve it:)

Thanks for your hard work

Stay safe!

Hey when you start feeling better I would love to suggest a game to review. Subnautica was an amazing game I stumbled onto after its huge blowup and I feel like you would love it! Have a great day man!

when Cortana say she is thinking herself to death it is as if she thinking hard enough that she stops breathing and keeping her heart beating if she were organic.

Newsflash, halo 1-3 is a great story told great

@@babytricep437 indeed, but the point of the comment was that something good told well is better than something great told like shit

@@PianoEmu1120 And something shit told in an amazing way can be even better. Presentation matters just as much if not moreso than content

@@babytricep437 No, Halo 2 is a great story told in a great way. CE and 3 are lackluster stories told very well. Halo CE and 3 have really simple, and in a few ways, bad actual plot. Especially Halo 3. Good god, the sheer number of inconsistencies and wasted potential in Halo 3 is staggering, but you don't care because the PRESENTATION of that lacking plot is very very good.

@@Espartanica Well, it's a good thing the presentation is good then, because the stories themselves, particularly in CE and 3, just aren't...

Yeah, I disagree with him as well on this viewpoint. I mostly saw it as the public perception in-universe of the fabricated or half-truthed events that ONI was telling.

They would've had Mark IV at this point which is one of the best Mjolnir designs

Limited time and resources? It really is a first Halo game lmao

It's the best design Master chief had so I don't mind seeing a squad of Spartans wearing it

@@xotimyth That's fine. For me personally it's just a matter of continuity

It looks good! I just wish it was something we got through story means rather than Chief magically having it straight out the pod.

@@The_Obsessed i think the nanobots explanation *could* work, but only if the spartans in the flashbacks were wearing either the Mk4 or Mk5, or an older design.

Sure. But they fucked up it's introduction

I agree halo 4 art style is actually good I think I love the new armor look but the reason chiefs armor changed is so dumb and far fetched this game is crap and it’s potential was seriously wasted

I thought it looked dumb. They tried to copy Crysis, but Chief ended up looking like a Power Ranger instead, I'm glad they bulked him up a little in 5 and even more glad they scrapped it and gave us Halo Wars armor instead. Which makes Chief look like a walking tank.

Most people only have two real issues with it: 1. The armour is overdetailed. I don't fully agree but I get it. 2. The armour is completely different than the one he SHOULD be wearing at the start of the game, and it's never addressed why he suddenly looks so different, which is an objective flaw. If you're going to change your hero's wardrobe between titles, you have to give some sort of explanation.

@@themindfulmoron3790 My main issue is it doesn't look like armor. In Halo1/Reach the armor is clearly metallic and all the unarmored bits are heavy covered in what looks like rubber. In Halo 2-3 they gave Chief more hoplite looking armor, which I thought was a downgrade, but still looks decent and is a practical design. Halo 4 is a cosplayer trying to turn his Crysis suit into what kinda looks like Master Chief.

@@CoffeeMaus Just because your head wants to believe "herp derp they copied crysis" doesn't make it true.

@@RG-df2lr It's impossible to find out where they actually took inspiration from when designing the new armor. Corporate will never allow the people who worked on the design to speak on the subject for fear of a lawsuit. If we're ever getting confirmation about that it'll happen years from now. Looking at the games that came out before 4 though you can guess where they copied their homework from. Not that I'm complaining mind, the best artists steal everything and the Crysis suit is great, my complaint is that they decided to retcon Halo 1-3's designs, lie about it in interviews and give us a worse design that makes 0 in universe sense.

If you want that, then play the classic trilogy, where John spoke and acted like a human being.

@@Espartanica Come again? The guy barely spoke at all in those games. Not sure where you're getting that from. And I'm saying that I appreciate the way make him work in both trilogies

@@lifeliberty9235 Barely speaking doesn't mean emotionless. He's subtle and reserved but if you pay attention he's still plenty expressive. Watch the scene where Spark and Cortana meet at the Control Room in CE for example, or during the outtro of Floodgate. He was never an emotionless drone, he was just subtle and quiet, but always had a distinct personality that didn't need to be shoved in your face. Halo 4 made the same mistake as Other M with thinking everything had to be shoved in your face, without any trace of subtlety and ad a result had a very flat story. There's a LOT of filler dialog that would have made the Chief and Cortana's story feel a lot more natural and keep that subtlety and humor of the classic titles, but was cut to focus on only the most straightforward parts.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jLmHrdJlnLO4gWw.html Watch this and pay attention to the Chief's body language, and you'll realize he's been a pretty expressive character ever since the classics

@@Espartanica Expressive, sure. But I'm referring specifically to the amount of speaking or talking he does. That is something which I can appreciate him doing more in the 343 games, in large part due to the fact that it's much more like his book counterpart. Thats what I was trying to get at, if perhaps my initial comment didn't make that clear enough

The game had a great framework, art style and I loved the premise of the 'Reclaimer' saga. I hate that they pussied out and abandoned it

@@2020_Visi0n I wished they would have finished it, then use the banished as a means of going back to the old halo with dlc. Infinite doesn’t finish what 4 and 5 set up sadly

Wasnt halo 4s story self contained? 5 was abonded because fan backlash

@@muskatDR that’s what makes it a good story. Show halo 4 to an average person and it would still feel just as heartbreaking. Halo 5 didn’t work tonely as a sequel but at least it progressed the story. Halo 5 has interesting ideas but a terrible execution. In infinite, instead of throwing away the story, they could have shown Chief choosing between his mission and her, since both are now at odds.

Halo 4 is a game I like more the more I replay it. I am a sucker for emotional storytelling and pretty scenery, two things Halo 4 nails. One of the things that always made Halo work for me was the Chief and Cortana relationship., and I will maintain that its absence in H3 brought it down. I at first didn't like Halo 4 very much, feeling underwhelmed by it when I first played it and ranking it near the bottom of the series. I have come to appreciate it more, however, for story, art, designs, gameplay, and music. It really clicked a couple years ago when I played all the games on Legendary consecutively so I had really fresh comparisons, and, honestly, there wasn't anything wrong with it when you compared it to the other games, and every other game puts at least one supposed flaw of H4 on display front and center. I would say some of them even have far more severe flaws that get either passed or excused. 1 reused environments heavily with severe padding. 2 had a pathetic weapons sandbox. 3 botched story and characters. ODST had an at best fragmentary plot. Reach underdeveloped its cast and focused on gimmicks. Give it time, more people will come around and love Halo 4 as much as the Bungie titles. I came around when I stopped trying to envision Halo 4 as the 6th Bungie game and instead treat it as its own thing; it wasn't going to have the same set of priorities and values. Bungie Halo is a product of end 90s gaming and the first Xbox generation; H1 even had powerup pickups like an arcade game, with emphasis on keeping the action pumping at all costs. H4 is from an entirely different generation, a generation that sees games as more than dopamine induction devices, a generation where a game can be a meaningful intellectual experience, make you cry, or challenge your ideals. If you're looking for a couch arcade experience, H4 won't deliver. If you're willing to engage with Halo 4 as a soulful and challenging piece of interactive media, you'll have a great time with it. 343 made a huge gamble pushing that angle, knowing they would never outbungie Bungie at literally their own game. I think it was a gamble that ultimately worked. In H5, they took the lesson nobody likes sober emotional Halo and went for an action game drawing on old Bungie favorites, emphasis on action, and cues from COD and MCU, and everyone hated in. The parts that went into Infinite that people love all come from H4.

They were always tanks. We just didn’t have much in contrast

That's Halo wars though. They've got enough metal on them to count as an APC. Halo 4-5 has them look like "walking tanks" because of good cinematography, not armor design. Tanks aren't made of rubber.

I think Infinite does a good job of striking a good balance between "agile and slender" and "walking fucking tank"

I think the main issue people have with the Prometheans is that it’s just hard to believe that the Forerunners actually made them. If the Knights looked more blocky like those giant sentinels from Halo 2, no one would have issues with them from an design standpoint. The main issue when it comes to their designs is mostly with the crawlers and the drones the knights spit out. Me and many others just find it hard to believe that the Forerunners who have left behind all of these very smooth yet imposing structures and other robotic beings like the Monitors and Sentinels would decide to just add spikes to some robotic animals and design tiny faces on the drone. They could’ve easily fixed this issue by just stating that maybe the Didact and a rogue group followers under his cause took over some sort of Forerunner production plant, moved it into the shield world where we are in Halo 4 and made their own designs to separate themselves from the original Forerunner art design. I actually would’ve liked this approach as it signifies that the Didact really wants to maintain the Mantle for the Forerunners, and he has committed to his actions despite the opposition the Forerunners have given the Didact with these Prometheans representing his drastic shift to save his species “responsibility”. But now the Prometheans are just in every Forerunner installation as if they have always been their and it’s just… meh. Overall the designs are nice, they just don’t really identify with the existing designs of that faction

I finished the campaign a couple days ago and actually enjoyed it, i dont understand why ppl hate on it so much

@@slatter7772 u don't ? it's easy to find a plethora of videos explaining why

@@RoachCatJr yea its understandable, but i feel like those people are just looking at the downsides of the game. I mean yea the game is below average or average at best, but i was just saying i enjoyed it personally.

@@slatter7772 As a fan of the series, Halo 4 isn't the best but I still enjoy it for what it is and what it does well.

@@Turbulentdesk3967 exactly 👍🏾👍🏾 same here

bri'ish moment

Good for you. One order of insomnia coming your way!!

@@pancakes7579 thankfully its the holidays and im used to being up during the night so its somewhat normal.

@@coin2085 pretty much, the joins of living in Scotland.

@@krissmiller7217 damn, i just calculated and took a guess, you're an hour behind me!

I would say enough people paid attention to Spartan Ops as they were very upset about how Halo 5 killed of Jul M'dama in the first mission just like that.

@@DerultimativeOzzy I feel like I never encountered anyone who really talked about (or at least enjoyed) Spartan Ops much at the time. But you're right, that was the first thing about Guardians that annoyed the hell out of me, so much set up from the Karen Travis novels and Spartan Ops and he gets done in barely ten minutes into the campaign.

I hope so

If not “Fine, I’ll do it myself ”

Wholeheartedly agree with the halo statement. Sadly halo fans reject anything new or different so halo 4 was hated a lot for trying to be a more personal story. Concerning Gears, we have yet to see how Gears 6 will end it, but the plot and story aren’t too bad. Gears 4 was definitely playing it safe with the story, while gears 5 took risks, which is why I feel like gears 5 feels more like a gears game than 4 because the stakes and consequences were high like the old games.

There's a similar achievement in all the mainline games, not just 4

I read this, and all i think is "Yeah, most speedrunners already have that."

@@SeraphOC I doubt they’re speedrunning on legendary

@@thedeepfriar745 Well no duh, but it is a category

343 has done good things but I disagree with them doing better than Bungie. 4's story was good but messy, 5's story was horrible due to Microsoft messing with production. Art is debatable because I liked the armors in 4 but the bulky Elites looked off and they went way overboard with 5's armors. Infinite's art looks amazing though so that is the right step forward. On gameplay I agree actually because it actually made me feel fast and strong.

Im willing to bet he’s gonna do the whole series. Curious how he hasn’t done odst yet

Infinite is the best 343 game, easily. imo, better than ODST and Reach as well. Not better than CE - 3. Though the gameplay beats CE and 2... but the story in 1-3 is probably unbeatable for future halo installments.

@@Jorsk3n bruh better then Reach? That’s a ballsy statement.

The way they portrayed Rampancy in 4 disappointed me greatly because I see all the ways they could have easily improved it. The gradual degradation of a character and tackling the subject of the inevitably of death could have been a poignant thing to portray. Instead Cortana becomes a teenager and gets mad in a few scenes, which becomes increasingly more annoying the more you replay the game, having to wait for her to remember how to open a door for 5 minutes while you're eyeing the par time timer count down. What a colossal waste of fantastic writing material.

Well that explains Halo Reach