Cena could legitimately be a comedian

@@joshrutkowski6750 considering i only know of him because of a the meme, i definitely agree.

Used to have. WWE specifically. Nowadays it's a lot more concrete script for most guys and gals. But I guess if someone could use a concrete script as just plot points, that Big match John

@@boyankovachev7982 Yeah but cena had both enough time in a system that had a bit less of that and enough clout in his later career to improv

In WWE it depends on the performer. Big guys like Cena, Rock, Reigns are free to improvise but most performers have strict scripts that they follow.

i always come back to that scene and i can’t watch it without crying. the only scene in any superhero movie that really hits me

I just.... that line stuck in my head ): 😞

Sequel* this is not a remake

IT'S NOT A FUCKING REMAKE.

@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 calm down

I remember reading something a few years ago that the shot with the astronauts holding Starro while doing a thumbs up, was a reference to the Abu Gharib prison pictures.

They somehow did that in Robot Chicken too

hearthstone spotted, like given

@@InevitableOption-ic2vx Holy shit

James Gunn is such a genius

It fits with the theme of James Gunn’s movies. Nobody in inherently born evil, it’s usually situations that force them to become that person or in this case a mind controlling star conquer

@@raezwhat3413 not sure how that's relevant to the comment you're replying to here

First English-speaking role as well

Ratcatcher 2

Yeah she did fine... I’m not jealous... I WANT TO BE RAT LADY!

if that actually happened i am so sorry

I’ve’ seen worse I’ve played mortal combat

@@MrKomplicated lasted about a week😅

didn't give me nightmares, but was legit hard to watch. not the biggest fan of body horror.

"they're corpses below those stars" made me shudder. Somehow, Capaldi's accent and delivery make it even more horrifying.

Bvs theatrical cut was such a shame, don't even get me started on josstice league

Because Dc is inherently darker than Marvel and shouldn’t be played like a “superhero movie” the studio didn’t get it. They might get it now...or at least see the value in directors like James Gunn.

Eh, the age rating doesn't matter. All that matters is letting the directors do whatever they want.

@@buzzii I don't think DC is "inherently darker" nor should it be, but I think their problem was giving a "one size fits all" philosophy toward all their other properties. What worked for Batman and his movies does not work for someone like Superman, his complete opposite, or Shazam! which at its core, is about child escapism. And for the record, I thought Shazam! was really good (albeit intense at times, which is a given considering the director's background in horror).

@@buzzii It is not "Inherently" Darker. we only get that Impression because They only ever focus on Batman or try to build towards big things like Darkseid. Marvels Zombies, Old Man Logan and Ultimatum is far darker than even Injustice. Point is Both of them have their Dark Moments, By saying DC is Inherently Darker insinuates that characters like Booster Gold or The Doom Patrol are Dark when they arent.

The scene where Peacemaker is lying on bed and crying his eyes out because of how shit his life is and the bad shit he's done is my favorite scene in the entire series.

@@nisnast His whole view of the world and himself was continuously shattered so it makes perfect sense too. Man was in a good place mentally

It's fantastic to see that Peacemaker is not an emotionless killing machine. Bravo to the show for making me empathize with him.

Peacemaker was inspired by Comedian from Watchmen. I find 'What a joke' therefor amusing.

@@Orosian5 You have it the other way around; The Comedian is based of off Peacemaker. And current Peacemaker is nothing like the Comedian; Specially as Comedian is kind of canon in DC right now.

Good writing and set up also. If he had done the same thing without the setup it would have had no impact.

"I'M AN ASSASSIN! WHY WOULD I SHARE A LIABILITY?!"

@@shebjess I mean he’s not wrong right?

i'll be your one thousandth like

WHY THE F*CK WOULD I WANT A LEAF???

Such an underrated moment 💯

Born fucking leader, he is.

Makes me that much more excited for the Knuckles spin-off show

I had even watched this video multiple times before seeing the movie, and that line still made me break down laughing for a solid minute when it hit.

She had two meanings behind it 😂😂

While I am biased cos i absolutely adore Starro (actually the whole reason I wanted to see the movie) I wonder if they'll treat them as a species in this universe, and if they have no ill intent we could see them again in other movies or even in a good guy role, that said i don't think we are advanced enough as a species to make a Batman & Jarro movie

So he’s basically the first one

You'd be surprised over how much fight choreography is dependent on instructors or actors with a background in dance. Zoe Saldana, Chris Evans, and Tom Holland all took ballet training when they were young; now one plays the deadliest woman in the galaxy, one is famous as a super soldier and modern Superman, and the third got his role famous for a fast and agile powerset because they could flex and contort their body through ballet training.

@@NobodyC13 And don't forget Elisabeth Olsen. She also did ballet and now does these backbreaking poses while doing Wanda's magic 😍

I hadn't noticed it, she looks classy and cool, without being oversexualized...

@@marsmellow_5958 Channing Tatum also has a background in dance, apparently to help him focus and curb his ADHD growing up. And before Hugh Jackman was Wolverine, he was and continues to be an equally successful and famous theatre and Broadway actor (there's a video floating around of him practicing his tap dancing routine for The Music Man).

Harley's fighting style in her last two movies is actually pretty brilliant. When in hand-to-hand combat she fights in a way that uses her opponent's own momentum against them as opposed to trading big superhero power movies. And when that fails she just fights super dirty with cheap shots and low blows.

no like that line is so poignant and gutwretching

@@sunanimoon it's not

@@maxmillion7431 a creature taken from it's home to unwittingly cause destruction and then eventually die, yeah i think it's pretty poignant

@@sunanimoon not really

@@maxmillion7431 does everyone named max just have no sense of sympathy for anything at all?

“I AM ALSO WALKING BACK AND FORTH”

Noice

Ya, Portugal é bonito demais para não se reconhecer. Eu fiquei super feliz quando vi representação portuguesa num filme tão grande como o Esquadrão Suicida.

É nos clerigos ainda por cima. W choice

And he only claimed the city not the entire planet, as revenge for what it did to him.

Yeah, as someone who enjoys Starro from the comics, him being a trajic figure was not something I was expecting.

This is mostly unrelated, but it also makes me weirdly happy to hear The Doctor name something that sounds like it came from that series

I'm almost positive Starro was just headed to Cape Canaveral or something and didnt really want anything to do with taking over the world unless it had to.

@@jrpueyo7531 And, you know, one city for decades of torture? Not a bad deal for the world to be completely honest. :shrug:

The best part of her doing it herself, was she only did it because she figured because of Once Upon A Time in Hollywood and Tarrantinos close ups, people would know if they were her feet or not lol

I'm still sad about how Dastmalchian was completely wasted in Dune.

Yes, she did it first take. In fact, Gunn was gonna get a double, but she said 'I think I can do this' and then did it so quickly they couldn't get a pan-out shot, so you only see her feet. Gunn set the shot like that cuz it was supposed to be a double.

This is truly fantastic and we should appreciate her even more for this. I remember the first time I saw it someone mentioned how impossible it was, the fact that anyone let alone Margot did it is fantastic.

Quentin Tarantino trained her well

Yeah I agree far better and funnier than the first one

@@wolfgang6442 This is just better in every way. That first one wasn't even a film, but this inarguably is one.

That's just James Gunn: putting heart into a movie that just needs to be fun and elevating it, as well as getting great performances out of his actors.

Ooof, yeah. Also all of Harley’s growth, even though she’s bloody nuts, is still so good and moving and totally lines up with her past roles

I cried like 4 times with this movie and 3 were with Nanaue. The other one was this

Like Gunn, Waititi is a comedy genius that can also come with a ton of heart and a genuine sweetness. You weren't alone in your tears.

Nanaue at the fish tank and the ratcatcher flashback got a bigger emotional reaction out of me than they should have

After the producers give him weird looks: "...what, is it more or less weird than Marvel getting a talking tree over as a significant supporting cast member? Because I did that, too."

he probably said "starro" and they got it

@@StoneStephenT a talking tree that only speaks 3 word's which can translate into many things.

If only there was a parody on KZfaq showing off what Pitch Meetings could have been like in a comedic way which could perfectly capture what you said. But making that would not be super easy and an inconvenience.

"....you crazy bastard! .... we're in, take all our money."

I was legitimately sad when he died

(More like 12:37, but yea!! Awesome detail that I didn’t notice)

Wow gr8 eye

@TheGlassesPro bandage? Thought that was the C4 they put on his head to blow it up, just like the rest of the squad. You can't be a member if you don't have a bomb in/on your head, right?

(spoiler warning for Peacemaker show, seriously check it out if you can) Peacemaker nodding along to Bloodsport's story is something that makes what we see in the show even better, as a lot of what the show does is take the evil douche Captain America that was Peacemaker in the suicide squad movie and start to actually expand upon that little bit of connection until you realize that Peacemaker was nodding along because his dad also subjected him to horrible torture to try to make him a more effective killer.

I think the surprise is mainly due to the material Cena was given to work with while performing for WWE. (He wasn't being given Gunn-level scripts, after all.) His turn as an actor has been aided by directors working with, and scripts that play to, his natural strengths as a performer (comedic timing and line delivery). He might've never been this good without the time he spent in WWE, but I do wonder if he could've had a much longer (and much better) career in film than he did in wrestling if he'd left his full-time WWE position a few years earlier than he did.

I feel like that is because a lot of other athletes (assuming you count wrestling) just aren't good actors. And then there were a number of wrestlers that tried and failed, it really wasn't until recently that wrestler-->actor turned out great

@@xger21 IMO pro-wrestlers are absolutely athletes because a lot of what they do requires so much fitness but they're still overshadowed by the drug scandals, even if they're nowhere near as rampant as they once were. But yeah, Cena and Johnson have the benefit of doing projects that mostly stick to - and improve on - talents they already had. Unlike, say, HHH in Blade: Trinity...shit, even Edge has dabbled in this genre a bit and he's done relatively well from what little I've seen It's like actors who just decide to start singing careers. If you don't have the talent in the first place, or if you don't start off by sticking with what you know and THEN building, you're screwed.

@@DavidGowers you can't forget about dave bautista

@@stephencarrillo9022 Rock and Cena may be leading man types, but Bautista has the makings of a damn good character actor.

Oh, King Shark is voiced by Mr. Stallone? Nice. First he's in GotG2 and now this, heh

I guess it's official that James Gunn is _the_ comic book movie director. First, he nails the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and now he kills it with the Suicide Squad?

you could see and even feel the heartbreak on his face, after him quite literally breaking someones heart. ironic.

@@quinnobrien4517 Is it also weird I wouldn’t mind John Cena being the next Terminator?

@@castbet9183 i could actually picture that

@@quinnobrien4517 Yeah I think he could pull it off as an Arnold Variation. I also liked Gabriel Luna, both play a terminator very well

@@castbet9183 wait, thats actually somehow a good idea

The fact that not only in 2021 they got a yo mama joke into a mainstream popular movie but also made it land shows how great this flick is

My favorite is the "This city is theirs" part

I truly agree that this is a perfect movie. It's legitimately my favorite film of 2021. Everything works.

@@W3irdWombat Nah mate, Weasel living made it even better. Me and my buddy the whole movie would regularly look at each other and be like "I'm telling you he's alive" or "nah fam, he's dead".

I wouldn't call it "perfect" because it's a fact that no movie is.

@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 its hyperbole my guy

Go watch CinemaSins. It is not a perfect movie

And the Thinker's reaction to Rat Catcher2's threat.

Yes I wish James Gunn did miss

I didn't realize that was him until I saw this video and was like "that guy with the spiky things looks like Peter Capaldi" looked up on IMDB and was happy that I was right. I don't really watch these kinds of movies, so I just look for different ways to experience them, like this channel!

I completely missed it was him until the moment I heard him speak in this video

I just realized that Peter Capaldi is the second Scottish actor from Doctor Who to play a bald character in a James Gunn movie. The first one being Karen Gillan as Nebula in GOTG.

The Suicide Squad is 1 of my favorite comics films. All the characters were gr8

facts

she is smart but you forgot one thing joker made her well kinda insane and with those brain zap thingies it might be she isnt as smart anymore

@@zivo9453 She's insane, not stupid

She does have that extreme plot armor

@@putalover4519 that no one can deny. At least the movie treats as if it were a super power with how she acts and all.

Facts my fav character in this so cool to see his range and my fav cbm rn

Series is out now. He plays this part so freaking well.

What do you think now?

@@jacksongreen4107 s tier show

Agreed

@TheGlassesPro also he allowed Joel Kinneman to actually act and shine in the role

@TheGlassesPro Man I hope she shows up again under Gunn with lines.

she didn't have his front i guess

😂

Ok let search all the weapon named characters in the dc one of them will apear in the third

@@pedrohenriquemoraessantos1164 One already did in both SS and TSS, Captain Boomerang. RIP Boomer.

@@AdiNatu96 his death come out of nowere

I miss Katana

@@oldmanlukeskywalker5374 We all do

The MCU almost made a show about her back in the 2019. Unfortunately it was cancelled, it seem it was because of covid. The actress that was going to play her was going to be Milana Vayntrub aka the AT&T girl.

One day hopefully

@@ricardobalcazar1227 It wasn't anything to do with Covid. They had a pilot that was apparently good, but none of the networks were willing to pick it up and finance a full season. Then when all the old shows like agents of shield and the Netflix stuff got killed off to make space for Disney+, New Warriors just got forgotten about and abandoned.

Ratcatcher 2 is what a wanted every Disney princess to do. THROW A ARMY OF WOODLAND CRITTERS AT YOUR ENEMIES.

This is what I was thinking, too, except I thought the menagerie of birds in Luna's mansion was representative of the Squad themselves. They're unique, bright and colorful...and yet their entire existence is to be in a cage until the head of a state needs them for something.

"Bird :D" _--King "Nanaue" Shark_

Ratcatcher 2 has the personality of a hero, but it's like she didn't get a chance to finish her origin story. Like good people with so much potential who can't get there because of a flawed justice system and being forever labelled a criminal because of it.

I like that take, that the birds represent freedom. To add to that, I think the bird murder at the beginning was a result Michael Rooker’s character’s jealousy for the bird, which was free - unlike him.

what you said about that just also dived the “i was content with watching the stars” home. idk how they related in my head but the did

I would agree with this analysis to an extent! But one of the other advantages of hollow points is that because they break apart on impact they don't pass through the body, so they're unlikely to cause collateral damage to anyone standing behind them. Which doesn't seem like the sorta thing Peacemaker would be too worried about...

Hollow points expand on impact and make a wider wound cavity. This slows the bullet down more than it would if it didn't have a hollow point. So the bullet is less likely to penetrate as far, but the wound will be larger and will bleed more. They are typically used for hunting because they damage less meat and are generally more lethal. They are also used for self-defense rounds, again because they are more immediately lethal. Blood Sport was using what looked to me like full metal jacketed bullet. These are generally less expensive then hollow points, they tend to penetrate more but cause a more narrow wound channel. Full metal jacketed bullets can sometimes fail to kill/incapacitate because they travel through a body without hitting anything important; they are sometimes more likely to over penetrate a target; but are also probably better against harder targets such as people wearing body armor. With Blood Sport being able to transform his weapon it's entirely possible that he uses whichever ammo type is appropriate for the situation; and he knew Peace Maker was using wider hollow points so he chose FMJs. It is also possible Blood Sport was using armor piercing ammunition. If so it would behave much like a FMJ but it would have a solid hard core in the tip designed to help the bullet pierce through armor. It would otherwise share most of the characteristics of FMJ. It wouldn't be designed to expand, but rather is designed to maximize penetrating power. They are ideal for targets wearing armor, but worse than hollow points against flesh.

So, its passable for a movie, but in real life two bullets colliding would probably stick together and go tumbling away, all straight forward momentum being messed up. Hollow points don't break into a bunch of pieces but mushroom backwards causing a bigger entry cavity, but good catch that to make it make any sense they used one for peacemaker's shot

There's a reason why Peacemaker was the first draft/would have been had DC went for it/inspiration for The Comedian of Watchmen fame.

Murica

I mean they are still making a peacemaker movie.

@@buzzii actually it’s a TV show, not a movie

I agree, this is why Peacemaker gave them several chances to just give him the Hard Drive, when we are shown he has absolutely no quañms about casual murder. If he hadn't cared at all, he would have shot Flag in the head the second he said he was going to expose the government, and Ratcatcher would have died long before Bloodsport dropped in.

He's also a super tragic character, his mom wanted to create superheroes and instead she infected him and his siblings with an alternate dimension alien virus and created a bunch of supervillians. He dies thinking he's a superhero, that he lived up to that expectation.

@@darkmyro The tragedy beneath the comedy of his death is that, for one brief moment, he was a superhero.

I really disagree here. Sure, it was never explicitly spelled out, but that's because nobody ever actually saw her except for her son. There was never a moment where her appearance was treated as normal. When she gets shown, it's meant to be jarring or unappealing. There's never a moment of subversion with it.

@@darkmyro And he technically did. Taking out one of Starro's limbs was actually the final death knell for the alien. The javelin and the rats were just the killing blow.

you don't need gunn to tell you that waller and flagg thing since the first movie's events are enough for someone like her to want to kill him off, even if gunn says it was for something else

Don't like the last point, pkd being sad about Milton made him look normal and down to earth compared to the others

@@expensive-brother Wanting attention and playing it up for sympathy isn't normal and down-to-earth?

Also, apparently TDK is still alive according to Gunn.

@@Duiker36 not by using a person's death for it. Tiktok be damned.

Exactly, me too! It just feels so natural. It makes me realise how stiff dialogue in superhero films are where they’re always acting stoic and speaking profoundly. A simple “hey, you doing alright?” hits hard

I noticed that too! Ratcatcher in particular is definitely from a Pixar Big Hero 6 type movie.

@@crofoegbu6535 And Harley was straight up from a cartoon, Flag from a video game.... huh... you are right.

Peacemaker feels like he's from a Schwarzenegger style action movie, Bloodsport feels like he's from a sci-fi western movie. It totally fits.

@@mungdaal9643 yes, exactly! 😄

@@mungdaal9643 what about polka dot man kids show about shapes maybe

Well, humans in DC love to mess with what they don't understand and sacrifice other people who don't deserve it at all. And STARRO...is one unfortunate creature. At least, he'll be part of the stars in spirit.

My problem with that line is it came *after* the line "This city is ours". If all Starro wanted was to go back into space, then why is it taking over a city? Why, after taking over hundreds of human minds, didn't it just have one of them say "Look, all I want is to go home, there's no need for us to fight"? I get that it's pissed off and probably wants to punish some humans on its way back home, but this is Starro "The Conqueror", and it's f*cking conquering Earth.

I actually felt bad because my mom went to see it with me because she liked the first one and because she likes The Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and I had no idea there was going to be so much gore. She had to end up walking out because she couldn't take it. I felt so bad for her.

Cuz of this character, I remember it the director’s fault if characters aren’t interesting or boring. James Gunn vs whoever directed the other one is night and day.

"Peace Maker, what a joke"

Rick Flag is almost as much a key part of the Suicide Squad as Amanda Waller, so of course he's back for this one. And there's a decent chance that, if they do another Suicide Squad movie, he'll be back for that one too.

See, I think you kind of need a character like Flagg in Suicide Squad (any movie/group). You get this bunch of completely insane weirdos of every degree and you need a straight shooter not just to keep them in place but also but also a straight man for all the comedy. Idris Elba arguably plays that role in this one, since Flagg isn't around for most of it.

@@rmsgrey but he is... dead?

Also pretty fun when the same canary ends up getting their just dessert.

There's a Black Canary movie in the works. Maybe Savant could appear as a way to explain how he ended up at Belle Reve.

Starro was also the main antagonist in one "episode" of the MMO DCUniverse Online and actualy quite well-adapted without looking silly. Plus a good opportunity to have more bossfights with Superman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter...

It tells a lot about the person if they can tell if it is Margot Robbie’s feet or a stunt double. Jokes aside yeah that was great work by her. The whole movie made her insanity feel sane (but still also feel off) and that’s thanks to her incredible performance and the writing.

This is a really interesting question and my answer is to say the music is in Harley's head. Much like when she leaves the building all the flowers and birds stay behind so does the music. You can actually hear that when she is in the taxi the music is still playing but it sounds like it is coming from inside the building so in that way it is diegetic but as it all is from Harley's head it is non-diegetic. It's a very well used technique and an excellent way to incorporate a needle drop that actually has some thought behind it

holy shit, very good observation and I would say that it's 100% in her head, along with the rest of the stylised things going on around her. gunn really is an incredible director

well damn

He's also in the 2-parter animated adaptation of Batman: The Long Halloween as Calendar Man.

Same. I noticed him in the rain scene immediately and wondered why he was there. I was thinking "Dude, you're loyal, but what can you do?" I also noticed him looking over his shoulder as they went into the building and in the cubicle room, before he was killed. I was about as upset at his death as Polka-Dot man, but I laughed my ass off when Bloodsport asked "Is he still with us?". I yelled in the theater "YES! HOW DID YOU MISS HIM?!"