CaptAssassin I never really liked Cinema Sins because I think he’s always bitching and doesn’t look at the beautiful part of the movie but Cinema Wins tries to look at both

And Jared did try his best I think the problem was he was a little intimidated to play the role after he saw Heath ledger

Yes, sins don't explicitly say there is in the videos but on their channel intro, they say multiple times they are for jokes and nothing more. Also in that same intro, they say that many of them enjoy what they would consider "bad" movies. Now I agree with the idea that all entertainment is subjective, but only to a degree. The reason movies have those critical guidelines are because they work well when telling a story. That's what critique is based off. I have never seen this movie and I honestly don't plan to. I have seen both upsides and downsides to the movie and for me, I don't see it worth my time or money. It's the same reason I won't touch Fallout 76. There are many people that like both that game and this movie, but I personally won't touch them because from what I've seen they seem like a bad buy (especially 76 with it just being assets stolen from previous games to fund other projects). You don't have to agree and that's fine, but I do hope you respect that there is a reason people complain about entertainment.

I think that is a part of the joke, he is supposed to be nitpicky what he says goes, while this is more of a slightly less my way and more OUR way. he accepts everyones views and sees the brightside. sins, sees the dark side and tends to try and offend. but in the end its just two channels having fun doing what they love

I also don’t like cinema sins because he always sins for product placement Companies use product placements to earn more money when making films whilst adding realism because when you look around you can see products all around you

@Miles Dodsworth Theres no one better to play harley imo. you can tell Margot understands harley and loves the character. She also helped produce birds of prey so it should be good.

@@sleepinginmoss did you go see birds of prey?

@@J1ntu I did. it was fast paced and kinda weird, but entertaining and very quirky lol. didn't feel like a dc film but it was funny at parts. definitely Margot Robbies portrayal of Harley

Yea Margot does most of her stunts kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btiZjcWKsqmndWQ.html

And I can’t even walk in heels-

Same

I feel that way about 2003 Daredevil

Bro same. I think I’ve seen this movie like atleast 50 times-

Yeah. It's not good but it's not bad.

the plot itself makes absolutely no sense but i still watch it sometimes bc the characters are amazing. still bitter about joker getting only a couple of minutes of screen time even tho they used him for promo tho.

Well, almost. She also fell into that vat of chemicals. But you have a good point

i mean she does have a Phd

@@knightwarrior8337 it's called a "comicbook movie" for a reason, y'know.

@@DoctorWhoKage I was just saying jeez

Yeah, but just why is she there? Deadshot is really good with guns, diablo is fucking demon, croc is really strog, boomernag idk, but harley have nothing special.

Amen!

Saaame I just found this

Cteklite same here!!! 😄

Cteklite welcome to cinema wins.

ME TOOOO

Respect ✊

That’s a fair point. While I can see how these films can be better than how Warner Bros. is dictating the series, there are moments in this film that I like that _just_ edge out the issues.

If you like this piece of shit movie than you have no idea on how to appreciate one and also have a terrible taste.

@@marllusgoncalves5613 Shut up marvel fanboy. Infinity War was totally shit. Suicide Squad were incredible

@@marllusgoncalves5613 you must be very stupid cause that's the entire point of his comment and this channel.

Taylor Kawiti Agree. They were going for a modern, gangster Joker. And a hell of a lot of gangs have members tattooed all over just like him. And in some ways I found the most unpredictable, and unsettling - especially with the laugh. Of course Joaquin is my favorite Joker, that portrayal was too fantastically layered, but I get angry when Leto is shit or excluded in videos about the Joker.

I think his Joker is very underrated.

I think he is more of a modern day Joker

Taylor Kawiti i think he did really gd with what he had, he’s the worst but they are all gd

@@kimberlyhaines107 I agree. They needed a new joker for this film to properly fit the theme and new image.

Birb I love their relationship in the comics and old cartoons.

Jennu xx That version was blatantly abusive.

i hate that as well... they somewhat romanticized/idealized their relationship...

Richard II​ No, the cartoon was good. It made it really clear how much Joker actually cared about her. None.

I actually like this new take on their relationship.

Reginald Radio yeah pretty much

This made me laugh really hard

Wow somebody's mad at positivity.

Kinda shows how subjective everything is. It's our choice to see the same thing as positive or negative, or somewhere in between.

Yes, it's an art and that's what art is...entirely subjective so in order to properly critique it must be looked at objectively. That cant be done when you're a fan of something that is "rival" to "DC" because current popular opinion is "DC is trash"

I actually didnt notice that!

timestamp?

Alliyah Jane Caelestis somewhere around 10:50

we need people like you

Well put. Be your own person, who cares what others think. If you like it, like I did, it's all that matters!

Everything great about the Star Wars Holiday Special. I dare you.

No amount of optimism can find the good in that monstrosity.

MegaSoulhero Same. It was definitely not the best comic book movie, and was a bit disappointing in some aspects, but it was hella fun and enjoyable

Sure it's a hot mess, but it's fun and with future sequels they will Learn from their mistakes too make it better😄

+MLG___xXXxxx Think he was replying to Star Gamer 3120

I know, right?! It always bugs the crap out of me whenever anyone says that any kind of art is ""objectively"" bad, because that's not logically possible! The lack of objectivity is literally what makes art art! Basically: people shouldn't misuse the word "objectively" when they actually just mean "very", "extremely", "thoroughly" or any other word just to emphasize the strength of their opinion on something subjective.

This only applies if you think art is created for you, subjectively, or if it's created as a critic piece of commentary on the world

@@Stathio I think there is a way to objectively measure the quality of art. And once art crosses that threshold of objective worth, then it is open to subjective preference. But at any level of objective quality, anyone can like or dislike something-- where their opinion falls is what determines if they have good taste or not

@@StewartFletcherI think you’re wrong. What determines good taste or or not. Being generally agreed upon?. I feel you just danced around the original point and left with “it’s totally objective”.

Heath's Joker could've had a girlfriend at a different stage of his life. For instance the meeting in Arkham after the Dark Knight was over would've been a good chance to give him something to do.

Joshua I LOVE Leto’s Joker (I’m furious I won’t see his full potential - though Joaquin would still beat him - yay Oscar!). I explained to my mom my thoughts about the designs and portrayals of Joker starting from 1989. Jack Nicholson is a mobster Joker, as the mob was still active at that time, so his mannerisms and costume perfectly for the time period. Heath Ledger played the Joker at a time when people were paranoid about terrorists, hence his terrorist like actions during the film (and points to the makeup referencing the painter Francis Bacon - the one piece of art Jack Nicholson didn’t destroy), and his worldview. I feel the costuming was less important in this film, except for his makeup. Leto plays Joker at a time where we constantly hear about gangs and gangsters (especially if you live in California like I do), and what people thought were grills were pointed out as replacements of the teeth he lost when coming in contact with Batman. And nearly every gang now has a majority of members completely tattooed, so it’s not that crazy for him to be as well. And take away the tattoos he does look a bit like some of the newer Joker designs, and I actually liked that strange laugh because of how unsettling it sounded, and how he only let it out by putting the tattooed mouth on his hand up to his mouth, meaning you don’t know what is behind the hand. He’s unpredictable. And it didn’t help they cut a lot of his scenes, so I wish Ayers would release his version as he stated he showed Joker and Harley’s relationship was abusive, and it all got cut. But Joaquin has became my favorite Joker ever. I’m happy “Parasite” won Best Picture, but I was hoping for “Joker” because it had so much to say (and I wish it had won more awards). But at least Leto gets to play Morbius now.

Or (spoilers for Rise of Skywalker) Palpetine as a father. Or a grandfather. Or with a wife. Or in any kind of relationship really.

I like Jared Leto as the joker. He had very hard acts to follow. And he can only act to what is written.

Dawn Storm Well, in the novelization they at least explain it to a fair degree. That they kept trying to make clone bodies for him to inhabit (a bit like Voldemort before he’s finally able to create a new body in the 4th one - who does have some snake characteristics carry over), and they tended to be weak power wise, or go mad - maybe a bit of both. And when they finally DO get a fairly suitable clone power wise who doesn’t go cuckoo, he runs off with a human presumably, he as a clone develops some agency and independent thought. And with granddaddy/daddy Palps probably not liking that all that much - hence her mom and dad leaving her on a fairly literal junkyard planet (though still leaving her open to the dark or light side in a sense by no one REALLY monitoring her - even before they were killed unlike - though it probably epilepsy have been hard to find someone to trust and believe that). Though it seems they were barely able to have time to leave her behind before being killed themselves, not long before they both are killed by an assassin who can’t find Rey. Palpatine probably didn’t want a Skywalker redemption arc he’d (and we’ve had to witness to varying degrees 3 different times with Anakin, Luke, and Ben). If he found Rey early enough - less hassle she’d cause as she grew older.

That... I don't think that would be a good thing lol

@@anthonylongoria2638 You kidding me? It'll be better than calculus with a professor who loves his calculator so much that he wanted us to know the instantaneous speed of the calculator when it dropped to the ground after he chugged it from a 60' building. Hello kids. Welcome to Geometry class with Deadshot

MATH IS MATH.. I hope you understand that reference

Samson Borbotko why would they change it?!

*This is America by Childish Gambino begins to play*

Ian Chapoy I agree

Ian Chapoy no it's not for this film

2011zbjr shut up your just a critic that can't have your own opinion and just listens to whatever critics say

Ian Chapoy yeah your so right

Ian Chapoy nah, I prefer both positive and negative for balance

But don’t forget about the music and the cinematography

@@__M7MD It's the music for me, too. I felt my heart pumping after BvS thanks to the score.

Not Jared Leto as the Joker though

Gideon Han honestly I really liked Leto as the Joker, I think the studio ruined him in this movie by cutting almost all of his scenes

Yeah but alfred and Gordon dont fit for me.

alex Me too. They did Leto dirty though...

me too

Same

Ditto.

It’s in my top 3 three films

Charley GWood Good lord, I would love to know what the other 2 films are in your “top 3 three films “

+Patricia Davis Yeah, girl. I love this movie, it's so cool.

Omg same it was one of my favourite movies but everyone kept talking how they hated it so I didn't really talk about jt

@@sapi1572 same omg

I honestly liked this movie but Harley Quinn and joker keep me from loving it and good for you to stand by your opinions

Da Dragon Durp I mean, yeah, it wasn't the best, though it was one of those movies that is just...eh

Da Dragon Durp Same here

Da Dragon Durp 100% agreed.

Same. You won't get anything if you're looking for plot or character development but it's great popcorn material

Will and Maggie stole the show, it was funny at times, like when boomerang walked out, the action was cool to watch, like the street battle or the elevator fight, and Jared leto brings a we jokes that truley loves Harley and cares for her, this movie get 3 out of 5 stars

Dylan Fagan there's a difference between a good movie and just enjoying a movie, even if it's bad

It's a great movie, the characters are well thought out as well as the brief but impactful backstories, along with great special effects, a decent villain motive, and to top it off, a great mix of comedy and seriousness, with a few creepy moments.

Whoever said this was the worst movie ever clearly never saw The Room or Birdemic

Dylan Fagan yes if it was bad then how it grossed 745 million dollars without a china realease.

people like me who thought this movie is going to be awesome because of the trailer and got fucked in the ass with this abomination piss of shit. the trailer was sooo misleading. it emotionally scared me :(

Up

It's just a series of meme wins lol

you're me

Completely agree with this. It IS possible to like a "bad" movie. Part of the reason why "Avatar" is still one of the most successful films of all time in the theater. Too many people like that bad movie for it to fail.

@@shindari Thanks :)

I liked it but Jared Letos didn't need that many tattoos and eyebrows would've been fine

this is so late but i agree. the plot isnt perfect but it was entertaining and thats all that matters in a movie for me.

For not or, sorry

Princess TNT she did her own stunts and learned how to breath under water. plus jared leto walked around the streets laughing and picked the ones that got the most looks

Being a good stunt woman doesn't mean she's a good actress

She learned how to breathe underwater? Amazing, I didn't realise that was possible!

SamanthaPanther that's not much coming from you because you can't read

the power of optimism, my friend

@@cravingspider6614 on the internet? HA!

@@beautifulmeeses That's what makes "CinemaWins" a hero. He battles relentlessly against the incessant haterade of the internet youtube community, and actually changes minds in the process.

It's called being a sheep.

MadJax CinemaWins sorcery.

Hunter Longbrake sorry but if u like this movie u have extremely bad taste

@@SparkySpice0911 people have their own opinions about if they enjoy movies or not. I actually enjoyed all of the DCEU movies, including the new Aquaman movie and this movie! Justice League was decent in my opinion.

@@SparkySpice0911 that's the entire point of his comment and this channel.

Hunter Longbrake aka me and Tasm 2

Hunter Longbrake I agree! one of my favorite movies is probably hot garbage but I still love it to death

ChaSe Yú thanks for taking the owrds out of my mouth 😆😆😅

Mr. Lefty Lefty no problem. I just feel like it is easier to hate movies nowadays, because everyone thinks that they're the critics. especially with easy internet access and how easy it is to post a video online( KZfaq ), negativity are filled with most of the movies review channel( and DC get the most hates).

ChaSe Yú This isn't a movie review channel. This is meant to be CinemaSins' polar opposite; find the good in any movie.

Kyle Krazer at some point it is still consider a movie review, at least to me it is( and yes, I understand that this the opposite of CinemaSin, but at some point CinemaSin isn't like how they started with. now it is more like bitching and whining more than pointing out what's "wrong"). but then again, with SJ, HISHE, cinemasin etc and all the negativities, I just appreciate this channel more and more and like what they're doing here.

ChaSe Yú I get it.

You liked BvS and Justice League more? Weird taste...

@@stephenforrister4992 BvS is way better. Josstice League? Nah, that's worse.

Stephen Forrister Suicide Squad is objectively worse than BvS. What are you on about?

It's like Tom Cruise: Do I like his personal life or his organizational associations? No. Does almost every actor who has ever worked with him say he's a great, generous, talented, veteran who makes the sets of his movies great places to be? Yeah. I feel like Leto fits that same mold. I think he makes each move he's in better with his performance and attention to the craft. But he's also problematic. It's a classic conundrum: Can we separate art from artist?

I love how many people who claim to be comic fans all their life expose themselves by saying this Joker is all wrong. He is the closest they have ever gotten to the essence of the character, mixed with real life influences (real, extravagante druglords etc.) I read comments about people who said "If you weren't so crazy, I'd think you were insane" is a stupid line and the Joker would never say something weird like that (yeah... the Joker would NEVER say something weird, right?). Some said the Joker would NEVER own a strip club. I heard a critic say that because the Joker has this weird fashion style he is automatically non-threatening. Then there are all those who say the Joker would NEVER sit quitely to get a tattoo... but none of them realized that Heath Ledger's Joker had to stand still for his costum made clothers (mentioned in the movie by Gordon). It's all a bunch of nonsense. Everyone thinks they know everything about a character...

Jimmy Klimt Dude, you're the real deal. I love it when real fans correct the haters. You rock!

Well, if you watch the extended cut of SS (and actually the theatrical cut as well, though it's a bit more subtle), the claim that "Joker rewired her brain" can't be true because she was already calling him "Mistah J" when he broke out. In fact, it's heavily implied that she brought him a damn machine gun! David Ayer actually spoke on their relationship, saying that the Joker's way of justifying his caring about Harley was that he thought, "as long as he has her, nothing else matters" or something to that effect. Basically, his caring about her is a human flaw (in his mind) that he embraces as almost a sort of meta joke - even he can't help but fall it. Though he recognizes that she doesn't share the exact opinion of relationships (platonic or otherwise), her nihilism and general Camus-like philosophy about everything EXCEPT relationships makes her the perfect best friend for him to have. His attraction to her is only bolstered by the fact that she doesn't give a single shit what he looks like. She only cares about personality - hence why she admits Croc is "beautiful." That was kind of just a bunch of random thoughts, so I'll summarize: while the relationship began in the comics as something incredibly abusive, the slow but sure destigmatization of Dominant/submissive relationships (even those without safewords and incorporating other wildly extreme behaviors) allowed writers to frame the Joker/Harley relationship in the comics as something else entirely. Take, for instance, Scott Snyder's recent run in the New 52. In Death of the Family, though it is implied that he doesn't truly care about Harley, it is eventually revealed that his abusive behavior is more of a twisted test - he is trying to see whether or not she truly shares his worldview. As she she eventually decided to strike out on her own, she did technically pass the test, though the unfortunate truth is that the Harley Quinn comic continues to move her away from his philosophy. Unfortunately as well, their break-up was handled incredibly poorly, as he was framed as your typical "wife-beater-wearing misogynist." The Joker doesn't treat women any worse than men - he's a piece of shit to everybody. When he does something horrible to someone like Barbara Gordon, it's not because he thinks she's lesser, but because he knows it will have the deepest impact. Hopefully, the future of their relationship will center around Joker coming to terms with her being something different from himself. As far as the movie is concerned, the handling of their relationship as the one thing that matters to both of them (though to Harley, relationships in general are what matters) allows them to keep to the basis on their philosophies as characters while also enhancing the paradoxical nature of their respective characterization. That's what truly shows how insane they are - nothing matters, yet they love each other.

That was a terrible summary. WAY too long. Too much caffeine.

Death of the Family also had Joker testing Harley to see is she had the resolve to truly be the one for him.

I know. I may like MCU a bit more, but DCEU is great too.

you can get out. this place was not for you. it is for people like us who think both are great. you are not supposed to be replying to this comment.

Wilfredo Elias I like both bit atm I like the MCU more cause I think their movies are better

what are you 5

Shawn Stotler you do realize that not everyone hates these movies right? some poeple actually look at just the good and do there best to ignore the bad, not the other way around like most people.

KZico Lack of coherence plot. Boring characters. Painful color pallet. Talks down to audience. Terrible “acting” (save for two characters), and a shitty Ace Ventura Joker whose’s even more hammy than the Adam West version.

the joker is an ideology, he's even said that. that means that every views the joker as something different and there is no wrong answer to what or who the joker is. he is simply just the joker. some may see heath as the ideal joker, or hamill, or nicholson. some may not see any to fit joker properly and only view certain comic adaptions as the "true joker" but at the same time that's kindve the point. everyone is or has part of the joker inside of them and the joker knows that and he knows anyone can become like him. maybe with a few slight differences but in the end, it's just that realization or "super sanity" of how the world is and that all our morals and rules are simply just constructs we've let be placed on ourselves and scarred into our brains through generations. take for instance killing, it's seen as wrong, right? yet everyone already has the "survival of the fittest" mentality. before laws existed, killing wasn't seen as evil but instead it was seen as strong, protecting, or standing up for your beliefs. in some ways, it was seen more a "chaotic-good" or powerful trait but because laws and a societal majority say that it's "wrong" and "unlawful", we now also see it in those ways. in reality, we as humans are all just animals with animal instincts, but now we just have a "higher power" telling us what is wrong or right and the majority, they herd together and listen to those beliefs out of fear because the government, as a higher power, have the authority to control you or punish you in any way they believe fits and all for you disobeying them and abstaining to follow their beliefs. the joker sees all of this and wants the rest of the world to wake up and realize they just hide their chaos. it's not "one bad day" that turns you into the joker. what makes you become him is seeing the world for what it is, understanding it and everyone in it, and having the willpower, intelligence, cunning, and.. well.. a little bit of crazy to tie it all together, to open the eyes of others to see how the world is. he's not chaos, the world is chaos. he sees himself as most likely the most normal one. his abnormality comes from his in-depth insight into how the world truely is and not what we're just told it is.

To most, it's a bad plotline and cookie-cutter characters, but I thought it was pretty fun, since I'm one of those people who watches every movie with my brain shut off. Just loads of mindless action and great casting, and to me, that's all I need.

Will Smith

The color palette

Jack Robinson soundtrack

Hottest woman in the world

@RajunCajun34 Says the Virgin who can't even get CLOSE to a girl

And to be fair, Leto said they cut out pretty much all the character development he did in the film (and we didn't get to see that on the extended version, thanks, WB.). Hopefully, they'll show more in the Batman solo movie.

Chase Jenks I agree. He never really got a chance to be the joker. Because they were assholes and cut out almost everything.

Jared letos joker is awful

Joáo Cuitiño Araya Somebody needs to call Matt Reeves and tell him to put him in the movie, so we can get a Caesar vs Koba type fight and conflict between Batman and Joker

Chase Jenks I wasn't comparing him either... he was just a shit joker

nah cinemasins is funnier

Timeyin Sholaye Oh sure, if we're so lazy and dumb that we only care about whether it's funny or not...

AboAbdulable Except thats the bloody point. To be funny. I am not surprised you didnt get it

Definitely not Dendi thank you exactly, whiners will whine

Timeyin Sholaye Yes, but the problem is, some idiots take their "used to be funny" view on movies as actual unbiased criticism, which is basically brainwashing if you think about it

Lord Dongus Sooo, is there any movie you don't like? Like, ever?

Gele Robev Yes. I shouldn't have said "really like" for the Star Wars Prequels. I can just enjoy more parts than I originally could. And I'll never like The Last Airbender. These videos just assisted me in liking more parts of certain movies.

Lord Dongus Oh. Ok. Cool then. :D

Lord Dongus Dude! I pretty much just said that above to Yal Rathol!! It's about mindset for sure! BTW, I still hate #2 and #3 of the Prequels but I really like #1!! Ha!!

I started watching The Phantom Menace again after watching the video and I fell in love with it again

Amanda Johnson there so development, exposition is dumped on u in an inefficient way, it has a generic villain and the plot isn’t very good. Most of the characters r boring but I do enjoy Harley and deadshot. Also the fact that enchantress sent a blue bean to the sky, and none of the superheroes in this universe that r more powerful than the suicide squad combined

That is my one of my few legitimate complaints. The fake "reveal" that she pressed the button on the bomb. It wasn't a secret that she bailed. It was evidence that something wonky happened during editing. There may have possibly been a bigger reveal planned. But, c'est la vie. Most everything else doesn't bother me, even Boomerang coming back. I think he just wanted to see how it would all play out. And he liked Katana.

I thought Boomerang coming back was fitting. What happens when you throw a boomerang? .... They come back! :D

Digger has rogue honor, while not as clear cut its what I like about comic digger and the flash rogues, they're all about a pay day but have their lines that they don't cross

Boomerang coming back actually makes sense if we're talking character development. He went from "no honor among thieves" to actually learning honor among thieves. Could it have been done better? Absolutely. Did it break the movie or his character? Absolutely not.

You are literally not making any sense at all here.

Inception Report I AM SPARTACUS

Varro!!!!!!!! *cries*

Inception Report HOLY FUCK, I NEVER REALIZED HE WAS VARRO, ITS BEEN SOOO LONG SINCE I SAW SPARTACUS :(

OH OH, THATS WHY HE WAS FAMILIAR, GOD DAMMIT, Spartacus is a really good show and I loved his character in it

tbh suicide squad is only movie he acted really good.

+Ryan Ferguson Yeah, I really enjoyed this movie. Quite a lot.

You wanna know what makes this movie enjoyable ? Its how unique and likeable the characters look and feel. Not one person giving a bland performance and I can remember practically everyone. Each person has a bubble that no one shares. Deadshot, Harley Quinn, Captain Boomerang, Croccy, Captain Flagg, Amanda Walker, even Slipknot. Thats something you cant say in Fant4stic.

Next time you make a serious comment, please check your grammar.

Ryan Ferguson Yaah I love suicid sqwat

Angela Ziegler oh lol sorry I didn't realize. 😂 lol this is my life

You've actually done a better job at making Enchantress an interesting villain than the actual film did.

I know!

no, TRITON K175, he just spelled it out for you because they didn't spoonfeed it to you through exposition in the movie... you had to actually watch and pay attention.

This is a fair point; I can see a movie where Enchantress could make a compelling antagonist; it's a shame that even if Suicide Squad were executed flawlessly that she doesn't make much sense as its villain. I mean, She blames humanity "abandoning" her on technology for no reason that the film explains, and her plan is...to create a vague device (you could even call it a machine) that does...something bad (presumably several murder)? She also has the major issue of not tying into the film's themes; it would've been a stretch to say so even if she had joined the team before becoming the antagonist. As is the conflict of the film trivializes itself. Amanda Waller created the problem the Suicide Squad solves, so the squad wouldn't need to exist if she did not try to create it.

That is not actually true, I mean the last part. Moon found the statue and broke it herself, Enchantress was released without Waller's influence. We don't know why Enchantress didn't wreck havoc the second she was free, but we can fill in the blanks. Maybe she was gathering strenght, maybe she was fighting with Moon over control, maybe she was reconning the world, maybe there was a battle and she was caught soon after with cost of Waller's soldiers. But Waller managed to contain her. True, she used Enchantress in questionable ways and gave her opportunities to escape, but without her, she would be free to go and kill right away. Am I missing something? Tell me if I am. I really, really liked the movie, it has flaws, but either small or not that important to me. I had lot of fun!

Glenndoria Davis i didn't realize he was dead atfirst

To be fair, none of them were 'good' to begin with.

No one ever stays dead in Superhero movies.

Lisa G movies? yes they do. comic books? no.

Days of Future Past brought back...everyone. Superman isn't dead. Loki isn't dead. June Moone isn't dead and I bet she gets to keep Enchantress powers. Zod was some toxic waste mutant zombie of some sort that was suppose to be Doomsday. Then there is Groot.

Also the squad needed more time to flesh out their characters

And a consistent tone long story short I don't like this film

I think of it as the Joker having his favourite toy

Actually, the Joker has feelings for Harley, but he hates those feelings, he hates that he has them, he both loves and hates Harley at the same time. (At least before the new 52, when he got, well... Really crazy and less fun)

But Paul Dani AND Mark Hamil have gone record to say that Joker does have feelings for Harley. There have been rare cases in the comics where Joker either admits those feelings or he does something genuinely nice to her in his own sick, twisted way.

KingNazaru First one was great, second was... disappointing at best.

Austin Hendry No. Both were Amazing.

I don't know, might just be me but the second one just felt weak. They had three different villains, and barely gave enough breathing room for them (mainly Rhino). I personally just didn't enjoy the second one all that much, but I agree the first one is definitely "amazing". I think the second one would be much better if it only focused on either Electro or Green Goblin.

Austin Hendry Rhino is supposed to be a minor villain. You can't do much with him since in all media he's just a big dumb brute. Electro was the main villain. And Green Goblin was developed into a villain. It was like Dark Knight. Just replace Electro with Joker, Green Goblin with 2 Face, and Rhino with Scarecrow.

KingNazaru Amazing Spiderman 2? Really? You should probably watch YMS's review of it.

Emma Echidna trying giving it a shot.

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I love the score. Its brilliant music. Every cloud has a ray of sunshine I think.

Check out assault on Arkham. I thought they did team x a lot better there. I love DC animation, their theater movies need work. But with aqualman and Shazam I feel they’re going in the right direction. If they did a nightwing movie and did it true to character with the constant joking and poking fun at bad guys I think it would do well. I personally don’t like Bruce Wayne. Think he’s a jerk. (Sorry for any bad English/ misspellings. Bad migraines cause typing to be difficult)

THANK YOU SO MUCH

Vaslui he doesn't.

Casey Tatum I think they mean that there is missing footage from the final film that makes it a cohesive film. You still get that feeling in the Ultimate Cut

Genie Of the Lamp How much you wanna bet next up is Suicide Squad Extended Cut Ultimate Edition

You chose to watch this movie & then the slightly extended version back to back? What happened, we need some context ....

Marc Magma why not?

karl jonson all entertainment is down to personal preference. there are rules and mechanics in film making which could be considered to be objective, but whether or not the film is good or bad is entirely up to you. no amount of awards or imdb ratings should change whether or not you enjoyed a movie. personal preference and so on and so on :)

Ultra Golden Bacon Exactly. I couldn't have said it better.

in terms of rules and mechanics of film making there was somethings wrong with this movie

you're 100% right. "good" is a completely subjective term. I wasn't even allowed to state "I will make it work 'good'" (That sentence is correct in my language) in my uhm... what's it called lol... pre-job documentation of what I was going to do? Like, my teacher would ask "what is good? What does it mean? When is it good? I have no clue" Know what I mean? Gosh, I'm failing @ language rn.

"enjoyed myself" now I get it Margot Robbie in shorts is what you talking about huh you know what I mean

same

Bolo Santosi same

+clorox bleach HI DADDY!!!

Bolo Santosi me too. I have along list of movies I wait them to do.

I am too!

+Speedstar235 First of all it's hard to call it a movie. Secondly and most importantly people do that so they can get better films, other than this shit.

Praveen Sharma People already made their voice heard through numerous videos since the movie came out on why its shit. Why bring that here on this video as if nobody think its shit?

+Speedstar235 Eh man leave it. We both shouldn't feel like fighting. See ya.

Agreed, ciao!

+Speedstar235 Videos criticising Suicide Squad also get people who defend the film showing up, so why wouldn't people criticising the film show up to videos praising it?

K den I’ve never seen a more white comment

K den that song is severely overrated.

Pagman it may be overrated to some but it’s got a giant piece of my heart. But even without the rose colored glasses I have two things to say. That Roger Taylor High note though, and that Brian May guitar solo.

Nathan Hayes I can’t really argue with either of those. I still find it to be an excellent song,just one that garnered much more attention then I feel like it would have deserved.

Harley is insane. Her story is told through HER eyes. She believes the joker loves her, so that is how SHE is telling the story. The state of her messed up psychi is demonstrated perfectly when she starts sing a diamond is a girl's best friend after Black mask slaps her. Sorry if this came off as mean, I was just trying to explain why their relationship is more romanticized than other iterations.

@@bone_and_butterflies7224 Friend, you're absolutely wrong about Birds of Prey. The entire premise of the movie is Harley and Joker breaking up and the fact that Harley no longer has Joker's protection. She is not under any delusion that he loves her, quite the contrary. And I actually liked the pairing in Suicide Squad which was NOT told from Harley's POV.

@@SilverSpoonRiche first, I've seen birds of prey, that's literally where I pulled an example of Harley perceiving the world not as it is. Also when I said her story is told through her eyes, I meant when she is talking about her relationship during suicide squad. I'm sorry, I could have explained that better without implying that Harley is narrating.

@@bone_and_butterflies7224 Oh YES I do understand now what you mean. I misinterpreted your text.

I don't think the pacing of BoP was terrible. It made sense to me and didn't seem confusing at all

finpin oh cmon the plot itself is stupid n too early to be made in DCEU n alot of things fidnt make sense. it shows how much this was compromised between yhe studio n director

missStockholm I can see that. Still, I enjoyed it. I guess I'm easy to please or something?

finpin I enjoyed it too. It was by far not that the best movie but I liked it

I think it was a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. Sure the plot was boarderline atrocious but just seeing all this comic characters on he big screen did it for me. In my opinion it's a bit of fan service, but you know what, I'll take that

Alaskan Savage I thought he did ok I was certainly disturbed by joker

he was. its in a novelization of the movie they explain he was getting ready to kill himself. she'd been gone for a while and he missed her.

Joker has never been as crazy about Harley as she is about him. He loves her, don't get me wrong. Her crazy matches his in a way that both clown criminals love. But Joker loves himself and his fight against Batman more than Harley Quinn. Harley has left for months, returned, and Joker didn't even realize that she was missing, except maybe noticing Bud and Lou were getting crankier. I'm sure you've seen and/or read Mad Love, so you know that their relationship isn't exactly kosher. I will always say that Joker loves Harley, but he lovers her like one would love a car or a gun. They are important and need to be taken care of if one wants the objects to work properly, but one can easily replace either of those objects, just like Joker believes that he can replace Harley. He's the JOKER. The one. The only. He fights Batman, and he is complete. Harley Quinn is just an added bonus. Of course, Harley's perception of their relationship is completely different, but that much is obvious even when watching this movie. So the novelization saying that Joker was suicidal because he missed Harley...maybe if it was Quinn missing Joker, but not the other way around.

DisneyLover258 i understand that. im suggesting their switching up the story. and im not sure if you are saying im mistaken about the novelization or not, but that really is something that happens in the novel. just like joker having complicated feelings towards Harley which he likes to pretend don't exist

DisneyLover258 Unless this incarnation views Harley as the favorite toy someone took away from him👀

Albert Moisan. Joker? A gangster? Who painted himself? You mean Jack Nicholson?

Cameron Sullins, while I saw this comment the video was at this specific part. Perfect timing

He's gonna die. XD

FREDDDDDDDDDY KRUGER

Lol that wouldn't be fair to this guy. The guys at cinemasins would eat him alive.

I beg to differ. Everything CinemaSins says would get immediately counteracted by CinemaWins, not to mention he does that long summary at the end of the video, so... massive counteraction xD

Who would win really comes down to what movie it is and wether the movie has more sins or wins

RUBIX3 nah, CinemaSins dudes are literally just smarter

CinemaSins are smart in that they are probably good at making you think you've lost an argument, but their critiques are so inconsistent jumping from real critiques that are sometimes valid and sometimes purely false, to nitpicks that are there just for jokes, to intentional mistakes, I think someone like this guy who seems to have a genuine interest in showing the good parts of films as opposed to cinemasins who are trying to maximize their viewership and income and have become the very thing they allegedly started CinemaSins for to begin with, would not have a big problem debating them at all.