Everything Wrong With Murder On The Orient Express
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6 жыл бұрынSomeone dies on a train in the middle of nowhere, so naturally the explanation is the most convoluted one possible. But hey, the movie looks beautiful, right? Here are the sins in Kenneth Branagh's Murder on the Orient Express.
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@Cyclamenz 6 жыл бұрын
He kept sending the eggs back so that tge kid could eat them instead without it being an obvious handout
@nerarbysocka1017 5 жыл бұрын
Also to stall the police chief while his office was being searched.
@Eques2749 3 жыл бұрын
wow guys
@leesloan8216 Жыл бұрын
Poirot always likes his eggs exactly the same size.
@Wolf6119 6 жыл бұрын
"If the train is fully booked, as stated earlier, how is Princess Dragomiroff getting extra options?" Cause if the Princess of Imperial Russia wants your cabin, you give her your cabin and get off the damn train lol.
@druidriley3163 5 жыл бұрын
Aside from the murder conspiracy, normally yes. LOL. Modern folks just don't know much about how aristocracy is and was handled in Europe.
@esmenouvelle9439 5 жыл бұрын
Judy Densch was traveling with companion/servants. She booked 3 cabins so there would be room for all of them. She then took her choice of which one she wanted.
@Ronkyort0dox 5 жыл бұрын
She's not an Imperial Princess tho.
@druidriley3163 5 жыл бұрын
@@hilaryhongkong - Aristocracy exists even if a country has revolted. Many aristocrats fled the country. They were Russian aristocrats in exile.
@gothicfairy2407 5 жыл бұрын
Many Russian aristocrats or members of the royal family (by blood or marriage, but of course not the immediate royal family that everyone knows got assassinated) who escaped continued to live in luxury and with power and authority. Other countries hosted them. The Dowager Empress is one example. Hell, descendants of the Romanov line still exist, hold power, and use their titles. The current "Empress" has a son who will succeed her and there is an entire website set up in an offical governmenty type of way. It's pretty easy to look up. My one professor, Dr. Russell Martin is on her staff and edits the annuals and such that get sent out her posted.
@GlennDavey 4 жыл бұрын
"Everything Wrong With Murder On The Orient Express"? Well it's illegal for starters...
@shakira9007 3 жыл бұрын
Wdym?
3 жыл бұрын
Care to explain please, mate?
@Rougarou99 3 жыл бұрын
@ In most societies, murder tends to be illegal. I assume the situation is relatively unchanged if the murder were to take place on the Orient Express.
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rougarou99 mate! I got it now. 'Murder' which is illegal. 🤣🤣PUny Brain of mine
@bobbyfeet2240 3 жыл бұрын
What happens on the Orient Express stays on the Orient Express.
@Wolf6119 6 жыл бұрын
Sinning the fact that Poirot coincidentally stumbles upon a murder is kinda sinning the very premise of every Agatha Christie story ever lol. Poirot and Ms. Marple are basically murder magnets.
@robinstevens7651 5 жыл бұрын
True. What about Jessica Fletcher.... Best keep away from her..;)
@FastForwardPlans 5 жыл бұрын
Which is also why you should run away if you ever run into Conan from Case Closed, every time he meets a new group of people a murder happens.
@rikuganshio 5 жыл бұрын
@@FastForwardPlans how about kindaichi hajime
@tingispingis 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Detective Conan contributes massively to Japan's murder/crime rates
@1SaG 5 жыл бұрын
Plus they almost always overhear crucial conversations between suspects well before any murder takes place. From the top of my head: This happens twice in Orient Express and at least once in Death on the Nile.
@coralineparmentierpianist 6 жыл бұрын
"Movie takes time to murder when I was promised Murder of the Orient, EXPRESS" GOLD :D
@coopgaming1514 6 жыл бұрын
Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace yeah that's the best of all their lines
@namingisdifficult408 6 жыл бұрын
Coop Gaming agreed
@Garner84 6 жыл бұрын
Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace %@1
@ChiviSoda909 6 жыл бұрын
I think you mean, 'Eggspress'
@boxturtle5643 6 жыл бұрын
Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace ✌🏽 now we
@KATTALNUVA3 4 жыл бұрын
“My name is Hercule Poroit. You killed my father, prepare to die.” I’d pay to see that movie.
@lauragraves4342 2 жыл бұрын
I would KILL to see that movie. Of course, he would catch me afterwards so nah, nevermind.
@zaphoddog3878 3 ай бұрын
Mandy Patinkin as Poirot would be amazing.
@seraphinaaizen6278 4 жыл бұрын
Some of these question are actually answered in the movie. Poirot made the connection to Caseti because he discovered the mostly burned note, which was the one genuine clue, which game him the Armstrong name and allowed him to connect to the dots. If anyone but Poirot had found that note, it probably would have gone unidentified and its significance lost. All of the finger pointing and deliberate clues left behind were to create confusion, pointing the investigation towards one suspect or another, who would then be exonerated by the testimony of another suspect (since they're all in on it). The idea was to try and create a situation where NONE of them could possibly be the killer, and it would be blamed on the "small man with the high pitched voice" that they invented. In the books Poirot even remarks on the matter himself when reacts to be confounded by saying to himself: "They can't ALL be in on it", which is when he realizes that, in fact, they ARE all in on it. Their plan relied on the investigation never reaching that conclusion. And for most normal people, it probably wouldn't have.
@ElenaParadoxP 6 жыл бұрын
Sin 33: They left those clues on purpose to confuse whoever was in charge of the case. The clues would make certain characters look suspicious but they would make sure those characters had an alibi supported by another character, thus making the police not know who was guilty. There was only one clue that was left by accident (a piece of burnt paper) and what Poirot did was discover which of the many "clues" left at the scene was fake and which one was real. Dude.
@jb17415 5 жыл бұрын
PaolaP thank you
@CalBruin 4 жыл бұрын
I agreee, @PaolaP. People, including CinemaSins never read the book. This is the second instance I have watched where @CinemaSins is makes an error for not having read the original source, which has reasonable logic as to why, the movie either shorthands original novel's exposition or deletes for time.
@georgewashington6347 4 жыл бұрын
@@CalBruin Not reading the book is not making "an error." He sins them on the movie alone. You shouldn't have to read a book to make sense of the movie. Sorry, I normally don't leave comments, but you people leave these types of commemts on every book adaptation he sins.
@CalBruin 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgewashington6347 , that would be fair but, the some of the sins are based upon the movie's direct translation of the book. In other words, they are sinning the movie for what was done in the book. NOT the movie's variation from the book BUT the direct quote from the book. Rather like chastising someone for their quoting another person's use of the F-word.
@heliakopter 4 жыл бұрын
@@CalBruin actually, have you watched cinemasins' intro? i think he said he reads the books but one of the point of the channel was "the books don't matter"
@SubscribersWithoutAnyVid-lt3vy 6 жыл бұрын
You know it takes a lot of time and commitment to grow that kind of mustache
@theterra-path7798 6 жыл бұрын
10,000 Subscribers Without Any Videos true, unless its prostetic. In that case it grows in seconds
@Kishurgen 6 жыл бұрын
Obviously Poirot had the time and by golly that is a mustache!
@agonleed3841 6 жыл бұрын
10,000 Subscribers Without Any Videos idk. I mean, mine was grown without much thought. Just didn't shave. Easy to just do NOTHING
@ForeverUnreality 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it is the grooming dear Agon that is admirable. Any fool may grow facial hair, but it takes commitment to groom one of that caliber.
@neskamminga4681 6 жыл бұрын
30k
@thethreerailwayengines825 6 жыл бұрын
You missed out the fact that Death on the Nile only works if Poirot is there at the start, before the murder happens, and yet he's only being told about it now, after the murder happens
@tuschman168 5 жыл бұрын
Oh good. I thought I was remembering that wrong. Yeah, that scene doesn't work at all with the actual plot of Death on the Nile. Pretty big oversight. Akin to the last joke in the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie which also made no sense and wouldn't fit the story of The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
@thatguyfromravenclaw 4 жыл бұрын
They'll retcon it.
@parkerdinhwilliams15 4 жыл бұрын
My guess would be he goes to the Nile to solve that murder and coincidentally ANOTHER more INTERESTING murder happens just as he's solving the last one.
@eventyraren 4 жыл бұрын
In the book that murder seemed spontanius and the only two with motiv Also has aliby sort of, but Also he sleeped through it all becuse he was sedated so it was not a spere of the moment. Him turning up now works by taking That out. Than again how long dose it takes to travel from London to cairo 1934?
@999SickBoy666 4 жыл бұрын
@@parkerdinhwilliams15 Yes, that's precisely the only way they have to retcon it.
@Gerilyn2003 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I had with this version is they skip most of his interrogations of passengers; then he pulls deductions out of his ass in the big confrontation scene.
@harmonlanager2670 6 жыл бұрын
"Why is Poirot famous?" In the books, it's justified because Hastings writes books based on Poirot's adventures.
@LFire12 4 жыл бұрын
That's Dr Watson for Sherlock Holmes. Hastings never writes anything. He's only in 7 of the books. Ariadne Oliver is the writer, and she doesn't write about Poirot. Poirot is famous because of the newspapers and the high profile cases he has investigated and solved.
@AnnaMarianne 4 жыл бұрын
@@LFire12 Hastings wrote at least the ABC Murders.
@vanshika2912 4 жыл бұрын
Anna Marianne and the mysterious affair at styles, and the murder on the links and black coffee.
@Vivi_LaRue 4 жыл бұрын
Poirot is famous because he was a renowned police inspector in Belgium and then became a world renowned private detective.
@bobbyfeet2240 3 жыл бұрын
Cher Hastings also wrote a bunch of the short stories. There are probably a couple dozen cases he chronicled. Made a bit of a living at it, as I recall.
@zeldaofarel 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Orient Express is not just any train. It's like THE train.
@christiankrarup6501 6 жыл бұрын
King of King, Train of Trains?
@misterwuss5456 5 жыл бұрын
Woah
@trod146 5 жыл бұрын
@@christiankrarup6501 no
@christiankrarup6501 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Rodowicz Don’t question my knowledge of trains. I’ll have you know, I trained for years in a degree in Trainology
@Ixe2077 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas?
@AdrianTangMusic 6 жыл бұрын
5:05 For the record, the reason they all blamed each other was because they wanted to confuse the shit out of Poirot so he would keep suspecting that it was just one specific person and never be able to find out exactly who it was.
@leonpaelinck 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Poirot must not know they were working together. So what better way to sell the lie than to pretend antagonism.
@meerkat10 Жыл бұрын
I'd assume it'd be more suspicious if no one pointed fingers at eachother
@SingingSealRiana 11 ай бұрын
@@meerkat10 as in the book where they share some, Oh I do not like the guy I am rooming with for he is a foraigner, but I am giving him a solid as stone aliby and give a testament of his good character?
@SingingSealRiana 11 ай бұрын
in the book they dis not
@StereotypeNerd96 4 жыл бұрын
"That scarf obviously means he's been sorted into House Gryffindor" No, that's Hufflepuff, get your houses straight
@KPhoenix23 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hufflepuff that ticked me off lol.
@mathautist 3 ай бұрын
Somehow Lockhart is a magnet for trouble no matter where he goes.
@thiismustbetheplace 6 жыл бұрын
David Suchet plays Poirot brilliantly, and he's done about 40 2 hour episodes/movies. They're all good, especially with Hugh Fraser playing Arthur Hastings and Philip Jackson playing Chief Inspector Japp. I highly recommend it to any Agatha Christie fans such as myself :D
@HelloWorld-qn3wp 5 жыл бұрын
That's why i couldn't watch this movie .. there's one Poirot only and he is David Suchet
@Tom_Harding 5 жыл бұрын
No he doesn’t play Poirot brilliantly. Poirot was humble, this Poirot loudly claims he’s the best detective in the world. This Poirot speaks complete nonsense at times like the rubbish about the eggs and the bread, book Poirot only spoke when he needed to. Also this Poirot lost his cool and for some reason got angry at times for very little reason, in the book he never got angry. Also, also it seemed he accidentally stumbled on the conclusion. This Poirot was terrible.
@byeolbyeoll 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that knows of this show ;-; none of my peers know of it and I’m guessing I only do cause my dad has always loved it ;-;
@byeolbyeoll 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Harding this poirot isn’t David suchet though?
@harry781012 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tom_Harding thank god im not the only one that think this portrayal of Poirot is a complete joke, and the whole movie is horribly to boot
@javiermunoz2199 6 жыл бұрын
The scene where Poirot stands on the top of a train that has just been hit by an avalanche and is barely standing on a bridge next to an abyss while looking for evidence without even wearing a coat out in the cold, might just be the most unlike Poirot thing I've ever seen.
@o.g.2836 5 жыл бұрын
No-no-no! His brother's name is Achille Poirot! :)
@leonpaelinck 2 жыл бұрын
So true. In the sequel he gets into a gunfight and a chase.
@abhishankpaul Жыл бұрын
All I knew is that they were just stranded. There was no bridge nothing else. I did not get to see the Taurus Express trip either
@kf_10 6 жыл бұрын
I wish you mentioned the fact that Hercule took the place of another passenger right before they left, which leaves you with the question: Was that person supposed to be apart of the plan? Were the other passengers dumb enough to have one person who wasn't involved in the murder be on the train? and How lucky/unlikely is it that Hercule would have bumped that one person who wasn't involved (presumably)?
@shinjig 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering that as well. From what I read that was supposed to be the fall guy. They booked an extra ticket using a fake name. A.M. Harris With the conductor in on the plan, he would have said that this person was actually aboard the train (ake he never was). This was why McQueen was confused when the detective suddenly became his roommate. His original roommate was supposed to be A.M. Harris. So then that way, when the murder took place, they could have blamed A.M. Harris, as he is not there anymore. Police would then be searching for someone that never existed to begin with.
@jennym8976 6 жыл бұрын
shinjig ahh....💡 thank you for your explanation. I also was wondering about that.
@AllthePrettyPurses 6 жыл бұрын
No, they booked that car under a false name. It was always supposed to be empty. At least in the book -- I can't recall if they mention this in the movie. There was no fall guy. The killers were obsessed with JUSTICE. That's why they needed to have exactly 12 people involved in the plot. 12 people is a jury. They would not have involved an innocent party.
@shinjig 6 жыл бұрын
It was booked under a false name in the movie as well. It was mentioned at the beginning when the detective usurped the spot on the train as A.M. Harris never "checked in". A.M. Harris would have been the one that was missing when the train arrived at the station when the police would have been looking for the killer. Otherwise they would run the chance of any one of them or all of them being put in jail. Otherwise, why bother booking another passenger? Just write the story so that there were no extra seats for A.M. Harris to fill. Give just enough rooms for the 12 killers and the victim.
@bovnycccoperalover3579 2 жыл бұрын
He never existed. It was imperative that McQueen be alone.
@SammyJay107 5 жыл бұрын
Actually,a lot of people get excited about a train leaving XD I got on a train once and throughout the whole ride everyone outside were waving at the people in the train Because Trains
@DaraGaming42 3 жыл бұрын
Was this is 1936 LOL
@evadarkeyes4164 6 жыл бұрын
Poirot will always be an man with egg shaped head, kind of short, and an air of 'know it all' around him for me.
@juttamaier2111 5 жыл бұрын
I met an actual Belgian who looked exactly like I would picture him: on the fat side, very pale, little moustache, black hair and a feminine voice.
@sierrastanley3109 5 жыл бұрын
and one great mustache!!! XD
@cgaskill13 5 жыл бұрын
And no gray hair.
@Cationna 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and why would that be? Just because it's how he is in the source material? What an incredibly unreasonable assumption...
@pinkpanther7442 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, DAVID SUCHET
@djhutchison 6 жыл бұрын
Sin 30: They're implicating each other in order to make solving the case more difficult. They can make accusations all day and it won't matter. Everyone has an alibi corroborated by another passenger.
@idislikemints 6 жыл бұрын
djhutchison the fact that they had an alibi each and was supported by another pretty much told you that either several of them or every single one of them was the murderer. They tried too hard to make it difficult.
@harmonlanager2670 6 жыл бұрын
Andruşca A-N-K To be fair, that's totally a rookie mistake I could see a group of inexperienced killers making.
@idislikemints 6 жыл бұрын
Harmon Lanager that is true, but here we are talking about a group of people who planned for this many, many years. Enough that they were prepared for almost any kind of situation. How could they have not realized that? Because at least one or two characters seemed the type to disagree with everything. Were they all that blinded with rage and guilt that they made a barely halfassed plan that could cost their lives?.. well, maybe, but the movie was trying to portray (?) them as intelligent or charming, etc, why go to this lenght to make them seem way more than they were? (Probably this has an obvious answer as well.)
@tejshah6083 6 жыл бұрын
Because the solution that all the people in the coach is obviously so common, and certainly the first thing that anyone would have thought up.
@idislikemints 6 жыл бұрын
Tej Maziga Shah well, that is true, but I still find the effort put into the "mystery" disheartening.
@NewSage 6 жыл бұрын
"Like omelet that happen." 😆😂... I'm done!
@reubenhunter6152 6 жыл бұрын
That whole line and then that to finish the pun. CinemaSins PUN-ished us
@supernova582 6 жыл бұрын
Eggellent taste in puns this guy has. I'm eggited to hear this I just hope I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch you know but I have the feeling there will be more than just egg puns! This is going to be grate! I love puns!
@8GPWHUFC8 6 жыл бұрын
New Sage i
@ronin_user 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a 2chan/4chan rip-off?
@justinwilliam4644 3 жыл бұрын
That was the only egg pun I don't get.
@DopamineMax 5 жыл бұрын
3:48 Would you look at that Gilderoy and Grindelwald talking to each other. I wonder if that would ever happen
@genesisdawn6672 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, in hell.
@mazadancoseben4818 4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious!
@brianbommarito3376 4 жыл бұрын
8:33 When the book was originally published, it was not entitled “Murder on the Orient Express” but “Murder in the Calais Coach.” The Istanbul-Calais Passenger Coach was where the murder took place, and because all the passenger coaches were locked during the night and were under guard by the coach attendant (in this case, Pierre Michel), it was deemed by Poirot as impossible that the murder could’ve been committed by anyone outside of that coach. You could say that the piano player and most of the train staff have alibis.
@christophermaybury4918 3 жыл бұрын
“Murder in the Calais Coach” was only the original U.S. title; the title was “Murder on the Orient Express” when it was first published in the U.K.
@JohnOConnell 2 жыл бұрын
In addition, one running theme through all of Agatha Christie’s novels is that the lower classes, the employees, the help, are almost never the murderers. In fact, in most of her novels they rarely get even a mention, as if they don’t exist.
@JohnOConnell 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophermaybury4918 Murder in the Calais Coach was the original title of the serialised first publication in a magazine, before it became the novel.
@christophermaybury4918 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnOConnell It was published as a novel, titled “Murder on the Orient Express”, in the U.K. before it was published in any form in the U.S.
@JohnOConnell 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophermaybury4918 True, but before it was published even as a novel, it was serialised in a magazine as I previously stated.
@Warden_Vtel 6 жыл бұрын
7:16 Jeremy. That's Hufflepuff. How could you do this to us.
@xlectraheart 6 жыл бұрын
Vtel 'Zolam Nah it would be Ravenclaw cuz it's blue
@Warden_Vtel 6 жыл бұрын
ęlectra heart There isn't a hint of blue in that scarf
@trinaq 6 жыл бұрын
It's definitely Hufflepuff, as their house colours are black and yellow.
@joshuaharland6373 6 жыл бұрын
It's the dress all over again...
@originsmaster8140 6 жыл бұрын
Well there is a bit of red and it could be argued that the stripes are gold instead dad of yellow. But you know...
@micahphilson 6 жыл бұрын
2:10 Hahaha, he definitely felt bad after the Tomb Raider videos! The comments were... not always generous.
@nobodyfromnowwhere7510 6 жыл бұрын
I think you have to at least be a little dickish to choose to make a living crapping on people's work. Doesn't mean he's evil, but at least a bit of a dick. I'm kinda a dick too, since I only come here to point out logical flaws in their arguments and crap like that. Like the one I made below about monk.
@vitlityprinceofrainwings9075 6 жыл бұрын
Ellder Sage his job is reviewing atrocious movies
@daxtron2 6 жыл бұрын
That's not what cinema sins is about. It's not about reviewing, that would entail a recommendation for/against it. Cinema sins is about showing us that ALL movies have sins, none of them are perfect, it can always improve.
@nobodyfromnowwhere7510 6 жыл бұрын
Except very few of them are atrocious.
@JHowesitgoing123 6 жыл бұрын
You're an absolute moron if you take CinemaSins seriously. They're COMEDY videos ffs.
@Owehoreva 4 жыл бұрын
“Omelette that happen” 🔥🔥🔥
@reneesoriano3703 4 жыл бұрын
" Why is Olaf with a shirt running away here?" OMG I CAN'T BREATH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mikey7257 6 жыл бұрын
That glorious mustache erases all sin
@mikey7257 6 жыл бұрын
chandra roy agreed but it was still magnificent
@oldenweery7510 6 жыл бұрын
Except in the books Poirot always dyed it jet black.
@7b7BenGazing 6 жыл бұрын
Vegeta: MOOSTACHE
@jericho823 6 жыл бұрын
Mikey L
@susanlay9505 6 жыл бұрын
Me too, this version is an abomination
@edencorevods4174 6 жыл бұрын
"Aaron Burr misses" I WAS WAITING FOR THAT REFERENCE SINCE LESLIE STARTED TO APPEAR IN SCREEN
@booberfraggle 6 жыл бұрын
Lee Scharfenberg YES
@cannedcream 6 жыл бұрын
Pardon me, but was he Aaron Burr, sir?
@baldr6894 6 жыл бұрын
That depends, who's asking?
@ChiviSoda909 6 жыл бұрын
Oh sure sir! I'm Alexander Hamilton, I'm at your service, sir! I have been, looking for you
@baldr6894 6 жыл бұрын
I'm getting nervous
@riyaj9633 6 жыл бұрын
9:36 "Who's the detective now, smirky Herc-y?" XD
@valadao 5 жыл бұрын
"Who's that excite about a train leaving?". All the kids from my town when I was like 5 or 6. We ran with the train until it was far away. Then, I moved to a capital to live in a building...
@YelloDuzzit 6 жыл бұрын
"Two mustaches fighting under the nose for dominance" is genius
@loulabelle5082 6 жыл бұрын
"Who gets this excited about a train leaving?" Jeremy clearly doesn't have children or he would have witnessed them exploding with excitement and waving so hard they give themselves a dislocated arm every time a train passes by!
@wingsandash 4 жыл бұрын
He has at least one son.
@unsweetsweets 4 жыл бұрын
Not even just it leaving; it wasn’t a train, but I remember waving at planes in the sky all the time as a kid
@justarandomperson2020 4 жыл бұрын
Omg yes!! When I was a kid i used to get really excited whenever a train passed
@richardludwig3673 4 жыл бұрын
Not even just kids - a whole category of people enough to have a name: Rail Fans!
@davidkee2363 3 жыл бұрын
And this was 1920s. Trains were still new and the Orient Express was quite famous.
@ysi7045 4 жыл бұрын
"There's not even a rugby team from Uruguay around for if he gets hungry" you did not just say that.
@JWR-fu7yl 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to Poirot, to me nobody plays the character better than David Suchet, especially in Murder on the Orient Express
@sophie-ss6ue 6 жыл бұрын
*Aaron Burr missed*
@kelseycarroll9090 6 жыл бұрын
soph he didn’t with hamilton😋
@andrewshi6579 6 жыл бұрын
He aims the pistol at the sky (WAIT)
@cheshirecat6551 6 жыл бұрын
I snorted when he said that
@dayzzofdr3ad 6 жыл бұрын
If only...
@casazcie2616 6 жыл бұрын
I actually fangirled when he said that
@typing7644 6 жыл бұрын
’Arron Burr misses’ I love how he knows
@danimiller9932 3 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@Virtuoso80 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of things that don't make sense here are explained in the 1970's version, as well as the book.
@blupee_pen2855 5 жыл бұрын
9:14 I applauded you for putting a Hamilton reference into my favourite movie I love it
@dogcatchen 6 жыл бұрын
"what happens when the engine stops?" "we all freeze and die"
@1222medi 3 жыл бұрын
i understood that reference. Steve Rogers
@MA-cq8gv 6 жыл бұрын
5:24 It was explained in the books and probably in the movie as well. They left all the clues, because they contradicted themselves (time of the murder, the owner of the pipecleaner, the handkerchief). It was supposed to make the solving of the crime impossible for Poirot as paradoxically the excess of clues was harder for him to solve than the lack of them.
@suchartboontid2560 6 жыл бұрын
One major alteration from the book was the 12 members of jury that let Cassetti go free vs 12 murderers on the train thing. I thought that was a clever part in the book. I don't know why they had to change it. Anyway it's always hard to adapt Agatha Christie's books because most of the time the detecting part happens in Poirot's head and seeing him think or review evidence is probably not as interesting as seeing characters interact with each other. This movie is like a theater version of the book but filmed as a movie. I would have liked to see something like The Girl with the Dragon tattoo, though. That movie was great at showing how the detectives come to a conclusion without much exposition.
@lesliesackey2515 3 жыл бұрын
CinemaSins: “Aaron Burr misses.” Me: ITS THE 10 DUEL COMMANDMENTS!!!!
@MaySwenon 6 жыл бұрын
I know the creators of Monk talk about how Sherlock Holmes was “the” major inspiration for the character of Adrian Monk, but even in the BBC/Suchet productions - where they don’t play up the obsessive-compulsive angle so much - it’s pretty clear that the Monk concept fits the Poirot mold more closely than it does Holmes. The persnicketiness of the main character is more in line with Poirot, and the way Monk and Stottlemeyer interacted was far closer to the cooperative Poirot-and-Japp dynamic than the competitive Holmes-and-Lestrade dynamic.
@wherewolfprime 5 жыл бұрын
Very well noted re:Poirot has to be the actual basis for Monk.
@Peppermint_Winter 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Poirot was the first obsessive fussy detective!
@genesisdawn6672 4 жыл бұрын
Poirot, Monk, House and many others are all inspired by Sherlock Holmes.
@loganharris2166 4 жыл бұрын
@@Peppermint_Winter Not to be that person, but Holmes came way before Poirot.
@Peppermint_Winter 4 жыл бұрын
@@loganharris2166 Not to be obnoxious, but I'm gonna be obnoxious! Do you think it doesn't count if you point it out yourself? Just curious.
@steeledminer616 6 жыл бұрын
Y'know, just watched the movie. I love how they did set up all the clues right at the start. "If like lucifer... we must fall" She blatantly says they all did it.
@GBOAC 2 жыл бұрын
12:10 it was *not* a popular train in wintertime, that’s the entire point and provided a vital clue to Poirot that there was something fishy going on when they left Istanbul. Helping him to stay on the lookout for clues before the murder even took place.
@n00bplayer72 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that always bothers me about this adaptation: The train stops AFTER the murder took place. In the book, the train was stopped for a while before the murder, so Poirot rules out the suspect's escape because the deep snow would have shown footprints. Here Poirot reaches the same conclusion, but we see the train was running for more than long enough for the suspect to jump out and get well away.
@ZaxorVonSkyler 6 жыл бұрын
"What happens when the engine stops? We all freeze and die!"
@Statalyzer 6 жыл бұрын
Zaxor Von Skyler ah you watched the video too?
@ZaxorVonSkyler 6 жыл бұрын
??? Bro I like that part, it's called having an opinion!
@tahaahmed9722 6 жыл бұрын
Someone from Snowpiercer?
@edb36mar 6 жыл бұрын
Sin snowpiercer
@ZaxorVonSkyler 6 жыл бұрын
Ice cell6, he already did!
@thegooddoctor413 6 жыл бұрын
Those egg puns were Scrambled together. But you did go Over-easy
@DigitalDashh 6 жыл бұрын
Stop with the yolks! They’re not eggcellent! It’s very eggervating!
@catluvr2 6 жыл бұрын
Just add some more on fried-ay.
@user-vz7mu4su9n 6 жыл бұрын
catluvr2 save it for the hollandaise.
@timmoore9855 6 жыл бұрын
The Good Doctor I found them a bit soft boiled
@thatrandomguy8988 4 жыл бұрын
Sin 68 : No train wasn't popular at that time of the year...It usually ran empty which was mentioned atleast 20 times in the book at the start
@SupremeRacer-fk8dv 4 жыл бұрын
2:59 "Who gets this excited about a train leaving?" You haven't heard of the 20th Century Limited, have you?
@djhutchison 6 жыл бұрын
Sin 35: Poirot is able to read part of the note left for Rachett. It said, "Remember Daisy Armstrong." Who else would the note be for if not Cassetti? It's a revenge killing, and they wanted him to know why he was going to die. Poirot knew Cassetti fled they U.S. with his fortune. He knew Rachett wasn't what he claimed to be. The note answered a lot of questions.
@CatMuto 6 жыл бұрын
There are tons of sins he points out that were explained in the novel...
@jasonant24 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, in the novel, not necessarily in the movie. CinemaSins doesn't care about the books, only the movies
@CatMuto 6 жыл бұрын
And this movie adaptation is shit. Can't even explain itself properly.
@entitledOne 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that's the destiny of most novel based movies. Movies will never do justice to good novels simply because of the amount of detail the move has to skip in order to not be 5 hours long.
@CatMuto 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but some of the changes they make just... make no sense! Or fully contradict what the book says. Like here, Miss Debenham is not supposed to be a redhead; yes, Helena said her governess was red-headed and called Freebody, which Poirot knows is a lie because she's going the complete opposite of what Debenham looks like. ...and then you have crap like the Harry Potter movies, which altered so much, you pretty much can't understand half of what's going on in the last one, unless you've read the book. That's one of the worst things an adaptation can do: be incapable of standing on its own, without knowing the original source.
@korinakucinic5403 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot two sins that could’ve easily been avoided by looking at a map. There are no mountains or even hills nowhere near Vinkovci, for 150km. That area is known for its flatness. And the other thing is that when the train arrived in Slavonski Brod (which is a city, not just a station) the officers were not Yugoslavs and trust me, there were little to no African immigrants in Yugoslavia in that time.
@abhishankpaul Жыл бұрын
They did not show Taurus Express trip as far as I know
@BarryHart-xo1oy 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing these facts out.
@sourdrop 3 ай бұрын
That also stood out to me. The whole reason that Poirot gave in and took the case was because Bouc told him that if he didn't the Yugoslavian police would charge and hang Arbuthnot or Marquez for the murder due to their skin color/ethnicity. Why would such a prejudiced organization hire the very people they were prejudiced against?
@JS-hw8ve 4 жыл бұрын
I watch your videos for 3 reasons: 1) make fun of movies I hate. 2) laugh at movies I love. 3) your wit. This video is all about reasons 2 and 3. I still love this movie.
@WillowWispGaming 6 жыл бұрын
These videos make me appreciate these movies even more. Like I loved the movie before, but I also love being able to laugh at all the sins
@DakotaAbroad 6 жыл бұрын
That scarf looks much more Hufflepuff though...
@Felarchy 6 жыл бұрын
"Aaron Burr misses."
@augustoalves158 4 жыл бұрын
"there's not even a rugby team from uruguay for if he gets hungry" wow how far did you go there
@ItsRoronoaZoro 3 жыл бұрын
1:45 Guy does backflip before even running into the cane *DING*
@ItsRoronoaZoro 3 жыл бұрын
@@willowwisp107 Ahhh, I could see that happening.
@Valks-22 6 жыл бұрын
Another sin is the setting, between vinkovci and brod is some of flattest land in croatia (part of yugoslavia) nowhere near Alps like mountains shown. Plus the black yugoslavian policeman at the end is also hillarious
@KillaBeeeeeeeeee 5 жыл бұрын
Ivor Omerzo bravo. I didn’t want to mantion that, but you are right 😎
@codyridsdale3861 5 жыл бұрын
Ivor Omerzo If there's anything more annoying that the pompious attitude of Cinema Sins towards fiction, it's wannabees.
@vrededromer8955 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard this comment before, but that is a sin to the book, not the movie, as the original Novel had the same exact issue, so can't blame the movie for that
@draganadarling 4 жыл бұрын
True. I noticed the same thing. And it's a big one!
@norbertmunch6218 4 жыл бұрын
@@vrededromer8955 Have you read the novel? It did not have the exact same issue. In the novel the train is held up by a snowdrift. No mountains, no avalanche.
@Valeria-dn5pk 6 жыл бұрын
"Aaron Burr misses" who's throwing away their shoot now huh
@staticrainbow1297 6 жыл бұрын
Valulisa HAHAHAHHH LOL
@davionelliot 5 жыл бұрын
3:00 cinemas in’s has never seen Harry Potter before
@guideon_anidus 6 жыл бұрын
The reference to the accident of the rugby team took me by surprise, even more so than the pronunciation of my own country but still a great job on that education or research or whatever you guys do. (for the creation of these videos i mean)
@claudiathomson3214 6 жыл бұрын
CinemaSins: Aaron Burr misses Hamilfans: *start freaking out and bouncing around*
@staticrainbow1297 6 жыл бұрын
Rowena Ravenclaw me lol I literally searched the comment section for a comment about this XD
@aastylez40 6 жыл бұрын
Static Rainbow literally same
@stevemarquez5054 6 жыл бұрын
Rowena Ravenclaw mee
@madyseeen 6 жыл бұрын
SAAMMEE
@nonotthehi-c 6 жыл бұрын
Ah my friends
@kittykat7584 6 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the movie I wanted to see but never did, so I’ll just watch cinemasins and piece together the plot from there
@TylireousGaming 6 жыл бұрын
kitty kat Dude, same.
@petergriffin1250 6 жыл бұрын
kitty kat, same! Why watch it if you can get a summed up version of all the stupid things!
@user-ju4lq1us6y 6 жыл бұрын
_ Tylireous _ same
@josiahbaumgartner7643 6 жыл бұрын
I hate people like you. Intentionally watching spoilers of mostly the bad parts and thinking it somehow is a good representation of the movie.
@Sierra-mn5ye 6 жыл бұрын
it’s boring you didn’t miss anything
@enessis 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all your videos muchly. Thank you for choosing this line of strange strange work.
@forrestdavis8796 5 жыл бұрын
Do: Everything Wrong With Clue. The one with Tim Curry!!!
@EeveeRealSenpai 6 жыл бұрын
Seems there is another case to solve! Let's get -Sherlock Gnomes- _I MEAN SHERLOCK HOLMES_ To help.
@Jusu331 6 жыл бұрын
Jeesus I read it as sherlock gnomes and when I reread it, It really did read that... what has my life become when this is the funniest thing happened to me today
@DingoWalley01 6 жыл бұрын
You mean Hercule Poirot, right?
@himbalodzodenever 6 жыл бұрын
Why not Gnomeo?
@michaeliobay82 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like I just saw you at a JackSepticeye video.
@trainerred9756 6 жыл бұрын
Why are u everywhere?
@augustgates2629 6 жыл бұрын
"Aaron Burr missed." IF ONLY-
@baldr6894 6 жыл бұрын
*small sniffle*
@augustgates2629 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly high five
@JamesWilson-vr3ql 6 жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of the Federalists myself. Burr did us all a favor.
@Kirbo14 5 жыл бұрын
“I should have known. I should have known the world was wide enough for both Hamilton and me. The world was wide enough for both Hamilton and me...”
@anzuwyliei1353 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kirbo14 *applauds*
@TiredinIT 5 жыл бұрын
I must say, I'm not impressed by this version of Poirot. Then again, I'm used to David Suchet, so it might just be seeing a different Poirot is throwing me off.
@retired5218 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like this version lacked...something.
@LFire12 4 жыл бұрын
@@retired5218 Authenticity is what it lacked. It felt like a convened "repertory" company putting on a show with parts for everyone, and a vanity part for the director, where elements of the book (the fact he was never acquitted being the most ridiculous of them motivation wise) were changed to fit the actors, or for no really discernible reason. It looked fine, it didn't feel like the early 30s, and it lacked the tension (even having read the book) of either the Finney or Suchet versions.
@anxiety_ridden_teen3249 5 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that the last 20 minutes in the movie when he was explaining everything I kept crying more and more
@skysayshi4039 6 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked this film, they did good by the original films/book, but.. Cinemasins gotta do what Cinemasins gotta do..
@skysayshi4039 6 жыл бұрын
I also like that both Branagh and Jacobi were in Hamlet together hehe
@Abba_Fan 6 жыл бұрын
Agree, after a shitshow that was justice league, this movie made me happy
@sdb3068 6 жыл бұрын
Actually the Writer and director of the movie didn’t even read the book so he could have his own take on the story
@watcherzero5256 6 жыл бұрын
indeed, they even give sins for unanswered questions that they themselves answer in later sins such as why didn't one person just murder him (they all wanted a shot and it was conspiracy), how did they all fit in one tiny cabin at the same time (followed by clip of them queuing in the corridor to take turns), why did they do it on a train how did they expect to get away with it (by planting the evidence to point to disgruntled Mafia business associate and to make it look like the murderer was an intruder on the train that had already fled) and why were they all in the same coach on a fully booked train (they had booked out the entire carriage for conspiracy members but Hercule was moved there at the last moment taking the room reserved for company directors)
@sftgunner 6 жыл бұрын
I also really liked it, but it seemed that they unnecessarily changed certain details from the book for the heck of it. I get the stuff like the dramatic chase and shooting cause, y’know Movies. But what was wrong with the Chauffeur being Italian? Why did we have to start in Jerusalem rather than Aleppo? Additionally, the original line in French was “Ce n’est rien. Je me suis trompé”. Why did this need to be shortened?! Also, in the film, I’m pretty sure that Daisy Armstrong’s name doesn’t feature on the burnt scrap, but in the book the only reason Poirot makes the connection is because it says “... remember little Daisy Armstrong...”. Perhaps it was a mistake reading the book directly before seeing the film...!😂
@TitaniumTigerz 6 жыл бұрын
Burr threw away his shot
@cidcrisis 6 жыл бұрын
He just had to wait for it.
@RMcNeil13 6 жыл бұрын
Cid Crisis I'm crying in the club rn
@baldr6894 6 жыл бұрын
He was in the room where it happened
@TheTsar1918 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, I love your reviews, but the ending clips had me in stitches and tears!
@Glitterlover506 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the misssing car thing 😂 and the scarf is a Hufflepuff scarf, but u think you said that by purpuse
@oliver_burnell8684 6 жыл бұрын
Allonsy! "Doctor Who said what now" 😂
@nighton3 6 жыл бұрын
David Suchet will always be the best Poirot.
@bejbimama6689 5 жыл бұрын
Nightone exactly. And episode Murder on the Orient Express was very powerful. This picture here is weak copy.
@arturdent5168 5 жыл бұрын
@@bejbimama6689 the original Albert Finney is the best
@silverysnowfox 5 жыл бұрын
He was absolutely fantastic and I watched every of his episodes at least twice lol
@waffiie 5 жыл бұрын
That is true
@majormalfunction3757 5 жыл бұрын
No ew
@lachlanbrowse6939 5 жыл бұрын
Sin 34: seeing your breath on a cold day requires impurities in the air, which I imagine there are much fewer on a 19th century mountain
@MatthewLatter 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a Hamilton reference and you did me proud cinemasins
@danimiller9932 3 жыл бұрын
Pride is not the word I'm looking for, there is so much more inside me now....Sorry.
@sebastiencimpaye5871 3 жыл бұрын
My father wasn’t around man
@hoteltrivago190 6 жыл бұрын
I watch cinemasins because im too poor to afford movie tickets
@Lodatzor 6 жыл бұрын
I watch cinemasins because so few movies these days are worth the ticket price.
@hoteltrivago190 6 жыл бұрын
Lodatz emoji movie was a great movie mind you
@Lodatzor 6 жыл бұрын
English Much It's sad how no-one cared about it's snub at the Oscars
@flashplays1204 6 жыл бұрын
This movie is in redbox
@user-vz7mu4su9n 6 жыл бұрын
I watch cinemasins because I couldn't be bothered watching full movies but I still want to see what they are about.
@ThePuffi27 6 жыл бұрын
That Uruguay Rugby joke though... COOOLLLLDDDD
@MentalBreakdownn 6 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. ICE COLD
@rayati2284 4 жыл бұрын
when i saw the movie i was disappointed because it didn't seem to capture the spirit of Christie's book (which is, by the way, one of my all-time favorites), especially in comparison with the 1974 adaptation. The comment section here made me relieved that it's not a super-unpopular opinion.
@AndriiMalenko 5 жыл бұрын
6:41 serving tea from a teapot without handle (ding).
@sonicandshadowsjunction 6 жыл бұрын
"Aaron Burr Misses" I knew I wasn't alone.
@DennisGerik 6 жыл бұрын
Same!!
@staticrainbow1297 6 жыл бұрын
Eyyyy
@aastylez40 6 жыл бұрын
A-yo-yo-yo yo yo!
@cartmann1358 6 жыл бұрын
9:14 You mean Aaron Burr SIR. (Edit) OMG sooooo many likes! Thank u
@panicatthehooey9383 6 жыл бұрын
Caleb Collier Who's asking?
@zebralml 6 жыл бұрын
Raeann R Oh Sure, Sir
@calicomarker 6 жыл бұрын
Carlos Dávila I’m Alexander Hamilton! I’m at your Service, Sir. I have been looking for you!
@zebralml 6 жыл бұрын
Poni Mele I'm getting nervous
@panicatthehooey9383 6 жыл бұрын
Poni Mele I'm getting nervous
@emte4236 3 жыл бұрын
Aw man the monk theme at the end! 👌🏾 I've seen all of the poirot movies with David suchet and when I first saw thus thought 'why did they make him like monk'? Did he even reference the little grey cells? In Death On the Nile, he was also on vacation on an Egyptian cruise when a murder happens midway through. I hope they keep it the same for the next movie. It looks like it too will have an amazing cast and music!
@bravepigster 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe this was out, I was literally waiting for it.
@rhysluvya_art 6 жыл бұрын
AARON BURR MISSES
@Mar-yl8xy 6 жыл бұрын
I saw that joke coming from last year, still love it
@neobro234 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't get that joke is it something to do with the actor Nvm it's from Hamilton
@kit-rg7ib 6 жыл бұрын
BITCH i SCREAMED
@abbyception0719 6 жыл бұрын
*screm*
@shadowhunter240 6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for someone to cmment this
@Mijuki 6 жыл бұрын
I really liked this movie. The only thing that really bothered me is that there are so many scenes outside the train. If they would have been in the train the whole time it would have been more interesting in my own opinion.
@SeraphimCramer 6 жыл бұрын
That's how it was in the original movie. They added in the outside the train stuff & the small action scenes 'cos they were afraid of it being boring.
@beatrizfigueiredo9650 6 жыл бұрын
Mijuki In the book, I am pretty sure they never leave the train. It's an awesome book, by the way
@TheLalalalani 6 жыл бұрын
Why would you watch this if you didn't want spoilers
@Mijuki 6 жыл бұрын
Gonna watch the original then, ty :)
@livintex 6 жыл бұрын
Mijuki I.I
@amythetaylor7253 5 жыл бұрын
Cinema sins really loves Hamilton. There is so many Hamilton references (no in this, but overall). I’ve noticed the, since I became obsessed. In this he says ‘Aaron Burr misses’... I know it could just be history, but he has also sung the opening when something sounded similar (forgot which film he was sinning). There you go, some useless information. 😂
@danimiller9932 3 жыл бұрын
It is a reference to Hamilton, because the guy who was shooting is played by Leslie Odom Jr., who was Aaron Burr in Hamilton. Also I think the other reference was in Mary Poppins. Yay useless Hamilton information!!!
@chrisp289 5 жыл бұрын
sin47: in the book the Count&Countess say they will allow their suitcases to be opened and searched,so that was not an option
@issyrose1504 6 жыл бұрын
When I miss it in the cinema, I catch up on the film here 😂
@bob857able 6 жыл бұрын
Issy Rose Or to see if it is a movie that should rent/red box.
@glencoconut 6 жыл бұрын
2:14 omg did he make two sin videos on lara croft and say her name wrong the whole time
@sugarnads 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes he did.
@glencoconut 6 жыл бұрын
i haven't even watched the videos and im already triggered
@BFRedd1021 6 жыл бұрын
Yep & it grated throughout though still funny
@brynnhill8848 6 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't pronounce Lara like Laura though?
@BFRedd1021 6 жыл бұрын
Brynn Hill no one does lol. Not in the games or movies...at least that I've heard
@benlujan288 5 жыл бұрын
Skrew this half-baked remake. If you want the REAL "Murder On the Orient Express," please watch the original (1974) starring the great Albert Finney in the lead role -- classic movie!
@kinghater2844 5 жыл бұрын
*William Dafoe smile* HE IS THE KILLER. STOP IT. *The police look at his smile. * Policeman: He is right.
@SunnysFilms 6 жыл бұрын
This was painful to watch. The Murder on the Orient Express with David Suchet was such a masterpiece. This is just a beautifully shot mess. That said, please sin The Prestige. I've been asking for almost 4 years now. (How's that for commitment?)
@captaincrash9002 5 жыл бұрын
Why was it painful to watch? When I saw it in the cinema, I really enjoyed it.
@TheNN 6 жыл бұрын
All the sins this movie had should've been taken away if the real twist was that Derek Jacobi was actually The Master the whole time.
@Misshowzat 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I might end up hating some of the sins I'm *SO* glad CS is covering this movie. It turned out so twisted compared to the way it was originally written. Very strange the film group did *only* this as a movie too, especially after 'relaunching' the character.
@mkapadia917 3 жыл бұрын
@ 0:34 "Dr. Who says what now?" I just died! 🤣
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