Well buts it’s CINEMAsins as in the movie itself not STORYsins as in the story itself (based on the book)

And that some things are explained in the movie.

Squids R Us yeah, no dip. It’s the fact that the movie still can’t compare to the books properly.

The books don't matter.

kinda... he did make some good points ngl

I´ve read czech translation and it has about 335 pages (albeit possibly because of the font size)

That means the book is as stupid as the movie.

@@TheZodiacRipper You won't know until you actually read it

@@TheZodiacRipper a book or movie without buildup is just boring

I read the books and was like WHEN The HUNGER GAMES

Not to mention that he had to mentor them BOTH knowing that only one of them would be able to make it out. It's part of the reason that Haymitch mostly supported Katniss in the games. They hinted that if someone was going to survive out of the two of them with the original rules in place, it was going to be Katniss.

aww

@@sommiemusso9138Yeah I think they say that in the book. Katniss even uses it as her argument to keep Peeta alive in the books (that Haymitch tried to save her the first time, so he must save Peeta the next time)

Exactly! When he said this I was like well yeah! This year's convention is the quarter quell 😂😂

THANK YOU!! OMG i got so mad at him cuz usually he's so well thought out🤦🏽‍♀️😭

LOL, "Do they have an annual convention where they meet?" Well yes it is kind of one of the biggest parts of the story

Where they then indulge in drunkenness to forget their trauma

exactly!!! the 'convention' where they all meet and interact IS THE GAMES THEMSELVES 😋

Peta

it's called the hunger games :D

The victors also become mentors so they meet every year at the Capitol

Cookie Lord and people who read the books know that, but it’s not mentioned in the movie for some dumb reason.

No Darren seery it IS Peeta, I should know I read the books YOU clearly did not.

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Agree

Well she's hot so.......

If I were that extra, I would too, no regrets.

@@leah7348 same, though I might be worried about being sued for arrested or sexual assault lol

he was wounded and he didn't want to kill, who can blame him?

Well, in Mocking jay part 1 he can't kill ot plaint himself like a tree. He got taken by the Capitol and Hijacked

Y'AL IT'S A FRIGGIN JOKE

Ok true

he unintentionally kills Fox face

Karen Curtis they died as soon as the games ended anyway

I mean his mom was a big fat b**** so...

He’s brothers didn’t even volunteer for him plus his mom said there was finally going to be a winner and she was referring to Katniss not even her son.

@@mariecrown1014 We don't really know anything about his brothers, but ya his mom was a total bitch. His dad was apparently pretty nice though.

MarieCrown101 were his brothers older than him??

I did not know that,that's cool,wonder who they chose....

And when did they say that,what book

LoveGamer catching fire

Mozchaa shaendy I know they said hay Mitch's game Idea,but when did they say the twenty fifth?I don't remember it

LoveGamer well the quarter quell is every 25 years

The books don't matter

@@marissafalch9555 yes they do

Noop it's Effie for both of them

@@ultravioletfox1106 This is CinemaSins, not BookSins. The books don't matter.

@@johns5638 yes, they very much do since there the original and that's final

Ihatequests Dev these the quarter quells?

@@henryward3742 yeah

@The Pasty British Guy From Wonderwoman Old people instead of young people? Can't believe this comment was just yesterday lol

Ihatequests Dev imagine if the people who live in your town literally vote for you to go into a battle royale

@The Pasty British Guy From Wonderwoman 4th quarter should be extra special because it's the hundredth one. Maybe, twice as many tributes plus districts get to choose plus the place where the game will take place will be a combination of a desert, forest, tropics, ocean or something

Keyren I loved that part of the book xD

_Sunflower_ me too!! 😂

love your joke

@@robertross604 it's not a joke lol in the book that's what she did

She probably used fishhooks.

Same, this is obvious!

Aliegient

Lol

Convergent

Okami Kitsune Allegiant.

Coulda sworn it was disappointment.

75th like

Adele Aslan like the hunger games

Charli Jasmine I know

Also District 11 peacekeepers and rules are much stricter than the ones in 12.

district 12 commander in charge was a relatively nice commander who wouldn't harm his own people, which made him a weak one in the capitol's eyes, hence why they replaced him with mister psychopath after nothing was done about the 3-fingered salute

The books don't matter

John S I’m not sure about the 25th and 50th Quarter Quells but in the books the 75th is definitely explained.

@@bellap7780 The books don't matter

John S Well they obviously do. The movies are based on the books moron. The history of Panem is the same in the books and movies

@@dhamin8168 Yes, the movies are based on the books, but this is CinemaSins, not BookSins. When watching a movie, we're watching the movie, not reading the book. Books are not required reading in order to watch, review or sin movies.

And sin 49 of course other victors had the moral quandary that Katniss and Peeta had- that's why two of them are drug addicts, Haymitch is a drunk, Finnick's girlfriend is mentally unstable, etc. As for it not being plausible there is a male and female victor from every district- totally with you on that. Including Katniss and Peeta, there have only been 75 victors in total, some of them must be dead from old age and it's repeatedly stated that districts 1 and 2 usually dominated the games.

+Jaquelynn Gering yay we need to read the book...

Futbol All of that information is in the movies, or I wouldn't have corrected it, since the audience of the movie shouldn't need to read the book to follow along. If you didn't notice Haymitch was a drunk, or that two of the former victors were introduced as "morphlings" and clearly looked like they were on drugs, then you're just really unobservant. If you don't pay attention, you will miss things- that's on you, not the movies.

+Jaquelynn Gering ok.

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Ikr😁😁😁

She said she'd take a nap in the books so maybe she just did that she's good at making fish hooks and is good at fishing sense she's from district 4 the water district.

KZfaqBlaze

The books do not matter here on CinemaSins

@@raymondjackson1138 Some of this remarks are still interesting back ground info.

Lol

nobody asked if you died

@@krodes9683 stop being pissy

he actually wasn’t part of the movie, he was a creepy extra

Uh oh.. *Katniss has ptsd of legit every death in the movie*

Or Everlark,

Niall Hannon YES 😂😂😂

Niall Hannon you make my day XDDD

It's fucking Everlark

They don't have a ship name. They are a canon couple. Canon couple's don't have ship names.

I loved that movie

I watched it recently too and after my favorite character (Finnick) died, all I could do was bash it xD

+Psycho Alchemist I saw it too. I had no idea that it was possible to make a worse Hunger Games movie than Mockingjay 1, but they did it.

DubstepKazoo Hahahaha I completely agree! The book wasn't too great as it is, but the movie was kind of insufferable. I wasn't even looking forward to it; I just went for closure. Kind of a waste of money.

+Silver Tinsel Finnick was Pretty Man No. 347, right?

​@@rachelhoran6286what the fuck howd u do that

@Elisa Van Mechelen Yea in the books they explain who she is because katniss recognized her.

Elisa Van Mechelen they don’t mention her name until the end of Mockingjay

and Darius

Avoxes aren’t really explained in the movie, so people who didn’t read the book would have no idea what the creepy person is.

@@paul2019. its dumb that they never explained because later on POllux comes in and they say he's an avox but don't even mention why

Don't worry, I'm sure that they'll make a completely new video with Sin 46 removed.

Can't wait to see it.

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None of them live in the Capitol.

MinecraftdSimmer they don't live in the capital but they have to come back and train the tributes for each year.

Opportunity Now that part makes sense

@@edra2005 read the books

I thought he was trying to just maybe break his tracker with all that electricity

Emerald 919 the guy and the girl from district 5 or whatever in the movie were shot for the same symbol

i know this is six year olds but exactly, it’s been explained before lmao

well, four kills is a lot compared to the most of the other kids.

True... but some of these come across less like "kills" than the ones committed by the careers. For instance, Glimmer was killed indirectly (with the tracker jackers), Marvel was killed in reflexive self-defense (in the films), and Cato was mercy killed (and would've been eaten alive by Mutts anyway has she not done it).

Huh? Katniss didn't kill the district 4 tribute.

Jad Ardat She did in the book. Katniss killed her when she killed Glimmer (With the Tracker Jackers)

To be fair, Cato was more of a mercy kill

This is CinemaSins, where the books don’t matter

I worked as an extra for a while and if any extra touched one of the stars without being told to they probably would have been kicked off the set unless it was an accident or something.

Wow! you managed on copying down what cinema sins already said. Very original 👏

Orangeapplekiwi I fucking hate it when people do this and it is so annoyingly common!!

+elove0209 no he dont have

+Stanko Milic read the book

+Martin -chan This is for movie not for book so look at movie plot twist :I read all hg books

+Stanko Milic i know that, i thought that you were saying that peeta didnt had a stylist

+Stanko Milic Actually in Hunger Games, you see Peeta with Portia during prep for the parade

Her name was Portia

Cinna*

Portia

Portia

ik u said this 2 years ago and peetas stylist is Portia

Yes and the 25th hunger games the districts voted in the tributes

Jay Woods Yep and the arena was pretty deadly and massive in size it was called poison paradise everything looked beautiful but were actually lethal and would kill u e.g. the fruit in this particular arena would kill u if u ate it. Also Haymitch was pretty lethal he was trained in hand to hand combat and was pretty good with a knife he killed at least 5/6 people in the games including 3 careers and a 12 year old boy as well I think. Nasty stuff there! He also was allies with the girl from his district (district 12) her name was Maca Lee, she used poisonous darts as her weapon.

@@conallhomer6962 I think you're thinking of a fan made thing correct?

@@halfway7690 It's described in the books. They're reviewing tapes of previous games and find Haymitch's tape.

@@conallhomer6962 her name was maysilee donner

😏😏

And it smashed

i mean hes a drunk guy and he is a quarter quell champ

I just thought about it but shouldn't Haymitch be the best mentor ever since he had the most difficult Games in the whole series?

I just thought about it but shouldn't Haymitch be the best mentor ever since he had the most difficult Games in the whole series?

Yannis Karageorgiou yes yes

Yannis Karageorgiou He might not necessarily be the best mentor because the skill set for mentoring may be different to that for being a tribute. Also, you cannot definitively say he has the hardest games; although the 2nd Quarter Quell had double the number of tributes, they may not have been of the same ability or strength as another year. Arguably the most difficult year would be the 1st Quarter Quell, as all of the tributes can be considered almost as careers( the districts would elect their best to represent them due to the rewards for the district if their tribute won).

even the movie explains most of it.

She was in the first one actually, but they never bothered to introduce her. I just noticed her because of the captions

Im guessing that didnt count because shes the one that decided to steal the food. He never purposely killed.

He also killed the girl who started the fire at night in the first boom and in the third book it was implied that peeta killed brutus. so uhm yeah peeta can kill lol

Peeta you murderous beast :'(

but this is sinning the movie, and in the movie glimmer kils the girl

key word in YOUR sentence '' accidentally '' there for not a real killer

That was the biggest weakness in book 1 and movie 1. It was implausible.

Reflection in the river he's right next too and then feeling where all the bark is going

I wondered the same time

@@twistiebabes it's a moving stream tho, kinda rapid waters, how does he reflect

Ok but where did he get the makeup to be a rock 😅

So much build-up for an exciting story And then Mockingjay throws it all away, both book and film On its own, though, Catching Fire is probably the best dystopian sci-fi film of all time

@@max_kirchi_fca i enjoyed the politics and war, in both the movie and book. i think a third hunger games is what most people won’t admit they wanted so they can’t see past how dumb it would’ve been. why did you dislike the third book

Well there was no technical victor. 6 tributes were left and it would have been a lot longer if the “mockingjay” plan wasn’t in place. Can you imagine Johanna and Finnick turning on each other? Or the last two alive were Katniss and Peeta? Enobaria killing everyone? Beetee just chillin with his coil electrocuting everyone?

yes because the main focus is not in the game

chanie hyuck yeah!

yes, because snow wanted the victors to be killed as soon as possible

seirously, 83 fucking minutes until the actual games

Even thought page count was short content amount was too much

The fifth harry potter book was the longest they should've split that one

Nice quote

Sofia Riana HBP was definitely not the longest, OotP was.

Milan Noelle no OotP was the fifth book, it was the longest one which is what she meant by splitting it into 2 movies. HBP was the 6th book after it.

Or ur really hungry

the things is cinemasins was like Katniss didn’t kill anyone but she killed like 4 people i know it’s not a lot but still

Same here

Yeah I got triggered when he did the twilight series lol

@@angeldove8070 Unlike Hunger Games, Twilight sucks tho

Nah everything in the arenas a hologram, which that doesnt make sense but neither does anything in this movie

its not. thehungergames.wikia.com/wiki/Arena

Cifer Null DING

Cifer Null wow you are stupid

Cifer Null I read that in cinema find voice, very little makes me read comments in his voice, well done *applause*

District 12 has 4 victors. The first victor who mentored Haymitch had died during the events of the first book.

Haymitch was district 12's only winner. You would have known that if you... READ THE BOOK.

Actually Haymitch was the second victor, the first dude is dead though and the movies never thought to include him

Actually District 12 had only another winner but he died and was never mentioned in the movie

There was another District Twelve winner, but she died prior to the events of the books so we never met her. We can pretty reasonably assume it was the female tribute from District Twleve, and that she won the 10th Hunger Games. Her mentor (this was in the age before all districts had winners, so mentors were academy students from the Capitol) was one 18 year old, not yet President, Coriolanus Snow. Her unexpected victory, it is now assumed, propelled Snow's career, ultimately resulting in his becoming President later down the line. Ironic, since another female tribute from the same district would end said career. It is unknown how she died, though it's possible it was of natural causes (she'd have been a tad younger than Snow, who was in his early 80s, but would also have undoubtedly been less well off so a shorter life span is reasonable). We can't know for sure though, and foul play could've also been involved. We'll have to wait for the full release of the new prequel novel to (potentially) find out what happened to her.

actually , district 12 won 3 games , so they have 4 victors . haymitch , katniss , and peeta are the only living victors . the other one won the 10th Games .

If I wanted politics, I'd read 1984. If I wanted people to feel connected by some girl/dude in a bubble, i'd watch the truman show. if i want kids killing each other, i'd watch battle royale. So what's new about the Hunger Games? and especially about Catching Fire? it's like The Hangover Part II.

Thomas Ewalts Nothing really, just overused tropes and concepts.

Um... I don't see your point. You can make that argument for every single piece of television or cinema ever. It's *all* already been done. People are still gonna keep writing stories, and if some of those stories resonate with the writers then yay. If they don't with you, then it's okay, you still have a bazillion other books to read. Plus, my point wasn't that THG is special or anything. I was only explaining why the games themselves aren't the main focus of the story. Just trying to explain the goal of the author.

(woops, i meant "resonate with the readers"' obviously, not "writers")

@Thomas Ewalts : because catching fire has all of that. (politics, kids killing each other etc.) which makes it good

LibrarianWho one she killed one person with a quick clean effective shot she didn't kill some she killed one and when she did it wasn't like there was much blood or anything that bad she shot him around th stomach and rib cage 2 seconds later he falls and he is magically dead 2 seconds after being shot about center of the stomach

actually she killed 3 people she let the tracker jacker nest down at Glimmer she shot Marvel in the chest and she put Cato out of his misery when he was eaten by the muts

There was Glimmer (and the girl from Four), who while she killed indirectly, she still killed. She killed Marvel, and she shot Cato out of mercy. Technically, if you're going by the book, she kill four. If you're going by the movie, she killed three.

Lmao stfu what would you know about ptsd? The conditions of the kill don't matter, she took someone's life that's more than enough to cause her trauma

Jack Costello Who are you talking to?

He also unintentionally killed foxface

@@cookieninja4129 i feel like everyone forgets he killed her unintentionally

The books do not matter here on CinemaSins

***** Once again, the movie is supposed to give you all the information the book has. Otherwise, the adaption is a fail.

Just because the movie didn't have all the details doesn't make it a failed adaption. It was a great movie and a great book. You don't need to put everything in it or it would end up being 3.5 hours long Actually, that wouldn't be so bad

***** I agree with you on some level; but, if the makers of the movie fails to provide details from the book, that's important to understand the story, then - based on opinion, of course - it's badly done. Then the ones behind the movie failed to adapt the story from the books properly enough to understand it by just watching it; you shouldn't have to read the books to understand what's going on. You can, if you care enough, but you don't really have to. Besides, CinemaSins are here to point out the flaws in the MOVIE, what the movie did wrong, based on their opinion.

***** Well, it failed as an adaptation, didn't it?

***** You shouldn't need to read the book to understand the movie.

Substantial worry at the disco darn you.

She knew that it wasn’t Prim screaming in the arena, she thought that Prim was being tortured and that’s how they got the sounds

@@salem1353 Exactly why she freaked out.

Charlotte yeah, I wasn’t trying to argue I was adding another point to your argument

@@salem1353 No she didn't. Finnick told her that after he head Annie. The first time Katniss runs for the sounds, she thinks it's Prim. When he realizes they're birds she tells Finnick not to worry, that it's not Annie. And Finnick responds "They imitate, how do you think the got their screams?"

If you need to read the book a film is based on to understand the film, then it has failed as an adaptation and as a movie.

Isn't reason a pain in the ass

CinemaSins is about a dude shitting onto other peoples work of art.

@@Viewable11 ikr and he covers it up with "Oh iM JuSt A BiG ASsHolE" so nobody can point out that they take any possible opportunity to say whatever without paying even minimal attentiin to the movie

@@imacheckneck Exactly. Please compare to the "Honest Trailers", which are sarcastic critique of movies, but reasonable, honorable and knowledgeable.

Nightshadow Everfree And killing people is not the only way to get ptsd. See killing gets you ptsd. Specially seeing a friend killed.

Exactly, but to be fair Katniss killed THREE people, that's totally enough to induce trauma. She kills Marvel, and then delivers the mercy shot to Cato at the end, and there's also the scene where she drops a bunch of killer wasps on Glimmer.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nightshadow Everfree Katniss gets plastered in the book

Nightshadow Everfree that’s what I thought while reading catching fire

THE BOOK DOSNT COUNT

The book is everything because without the books, the movie wouldn't even exist -_-

+Cherry Berry that's true. That's why I was annoyed when I read them

would you say it's worth reading the book @Eire? I didn't watch the movies nor read any of the books yet, but it seems kinda interesting.

Eire Hooper Ikr I was like um ok when are the games..... Some chapters later THE GAMES HAVENT STARTED..... Some more chapters later yay it started..... The ending well that sucked

Not really, and being a mentor does not mean you get to know other districs victors

Yes it does. They spend their times in the Capitol during days. The film shows Haymitch watching the Hunger Games in the capitol, drinking at their bars.

wbe7771 yes and it also shows him drinking at home, it dont mention anything about the other victors

bjam89 Look, in the film, they don't have to mention it. They have to show it. Haymitch in the Capitol means that the other mentors are in the Capitol too.

wbe7771 that dont mean they interact, that dont mean they know each other, that dont mean they can mingle in their freetime, with how tight the security sometimes are why would they be able to hang, heck based on the amount of shit we see most of them i guessed the post victors all would be in mental wards suffering from ptsd

They are waiting.

+브리아 They are most likely going to upload Mockingjay Part 1 and 2 around the same time. Since Mockingjay Part 2 came out recently, we need to wait a few months.

+CuddlzPlayz Why wouid they combine them

Because part 1 and part 2...

CuddlzPlayz Don't you think part 1 and part 2 have enough sins on their own?

is it wierd i read this in the cinema sins guys voice?

Maybe it's time for meta "Everything wrong with 'Everything wrong with x'" videos?

but they were all winners of different years. Which means there was no way all these people met during the same Hunger Games.

Sebastian Vera Most victors become coaches for the later years (like Haymitch). Therefore, the victors would meet each year at the Hunger Games as coaches and not participants.

Sebastian Vera After you win the Hunger Games you become a mentor for future tributes, like Haymitch is to Katniss and Peeta. So I guess what the movie is implying is that the mentors got to know each other during that period of time every year before the Hunger Games where all the tributes and mentors are training in that hotel I guess.

I knew saw/realized this! Thanks!

Haymitch was reaped, and Peeta volunteered in his place.

I know that >_> I read the books. I was addressing the video maker's gripe that volunteering was still allowed in this particular reaping at all

he could volunteer before his card got pulled, or isn't that allowed?

Lex Brillant Nope, you can only volunteer after the name was reaped, it's like offering to take the others place. And I highly doubt that other paper had Peeta's name on it. Snow wanted him to volunteer.

I think prez snow made both slips have haymitchs name because he knew peeta would want to go in the arena to protect katniss

Me too

same lol

Thank you I told those mother fuckers that

No problemo. :)

A lot of the sins that he says 'Don't make sense' are explained pretty well in the first movie. Why add more time to a 2 1/2 hour movie by explaining basic stuff so the people who didn't bother watching the first movie can understand what's going on?

Kambri Keith Actually... They're not really explained in the first movie. I was fairly confused in the first one considering I did read the books. And stuff in Catching Fire is a little out of order in the movie compared to the book. The books explain stuff alot better. It's like they decided that explanations that were important should be left out entirely in the movies.

Krystal Owens

actually, they don’t say any of that shit in the film so no, it isn’t about that.

@@pmc8451 if you watched the first film, you would know that it is about that

It's satire. This video is suppose to entertain you, if people want to know the meaning behind the symbolism in this movie they can go read the book :D

***** you couldn't be more right haha

Wait there are fans of twilight!?

This guy makes vids like this for entertainment for laughs I highly doubt he cared about getting every single detail right especially not a hand sign. We are all entitled to our opinion so this was mine

If he makes these for fun he should at least check they are correct!!!

Apple Daily it’s C bro

NO WAY

Well they do have one thing in common. They’re all dull and resemble shit in some way or another

@@andreeacat7071 Movie wise, definitely.

Believe it or not Joanna was the only female victor from 7

That was more of an accidental assisted suicide

@@_Maddex_ accidental assisted suicide lol I like that

3auka88 are we forgetting the fact that peeta was the one to push kato guy off the thingy into the dog pile orrr

@@jacobgarcia6610 And Katniss shot him

(In the books) Peeta also killed that girl sitting by the fire on the first night of the games.

Beetee connected the wire from the tree to a knife (in book) / spear (in movie) and attempted to stick it into the force field for the lighting to destroy the force field. But when Beetee stabbed the knife/spear into the force field, it did not stick and Beetee got paralyzed.

rip Avox

OMG XD!

Wow thanks I won’t be able to sleep without that image popping in my mind FUCK

Not exactly for trying to escape, but if you would like the exact definition its actually if they commit a crime that the capitol is aware of

her name was Lavinia and Katniss saw her escaping in the woods with her brother. They killed the brother and cut out Lavinias tounge, and she became a Avox, a slave. After the 75th games, she is tortured and electrocuted infront of Johanna Mason and Finnick Odair and is killed. It's explained in the books

I get what you are saying entirely. This was meant to be a joke and i completely agree. He definitely does not have to read any of the books first, but if he was going to make a video like this he could have at least done a little research. Half the sins that he said were either explained in the book or in the previous movie. For example the one were he asked why the stylist had to go with the tributes. It was explained in the book that the stylist is the one who tells them what they will be up against in regards to the climate and surroundings that the tributes will encounter during the games. Also he put a sin in there about peta not going in with a stylist when it is clearly mentioned in that same movie that peta goes in with his own girl stylist.

LifeAsWeKnowIt The movie could have explained all of that stuff for people who haven't read the book yet (which people do sometimes). That's what he's critiquing. The books /do not/ need to be involved with this. If the movie can't explain what the book does, then that's a sin in itself.

I agree with u even though im a really big hunger games fan I still laugh and look at it as just comedy

Yep me too

Yeah!! Haters keep hating, you're bringing the views up!