My ex senior pastor and founder of a fast growing church with international recognition committed sexual and fiduciary sins. When confronted by leaders of our church, he never apologised and refused to submit to suspension and counseling because he perceived himself as spiritually superior to all others (he had deep knowledge of his bible and has multiple spiritual experiences - as per what he told us). He also told a young worship leader with whom he committed the sin with that his wife will die soon and God told him that she will be his future mate. Do all these sound familiar?
@janesmith7216 ай бұрын
Wow..
@user-fe7xg3ls5g5 ай бұрын
joyce meyer can be a tough cookie
@Dana-hd8he28 күн бұрын
In The Jezebel Spirit teaching by John Paul Jackson (14 characteristics) best tape ever heard on subject listened to over 1,000 times since 1993 when first heard. BEST EVER! Francis Frangipane, Steve Sampson, Leonard Ravenhill, Derek Prince, Noel Alexander, Tim Davis some of the best teachings on Jezebel Spirit. Started correcting M.B./IHOPrayer from 1998-2012 he had a complete and utter disdain for correction even took M.B. World Wide News to no avail along with Ruck Joyner as one of the reasons why The Report Church Abuse List created. NO REPENTANCE OR HUMILITY WHATSOEVER SO NO PROVERBS 9:10! We're any of the Leaders Acts 16:33?
@NeilMacDonald-od4wc4 ай бұрын
I was at IHOP myself as a devotional worship leader at 8am. The place is sad to me now and l am glad l moved on. May you be able to move on yourself and be healed of personal wounds. Be strong and filled with wisdom.
@swarley67797 ай бұрын
100% right about the ones concerned about "hurting the ministry" When we elevate a ministry above Christ we become idolaters. Like John the Baptist said, "God can raise children out of these stones". A prayer movement is no different.
@raneeh67526 ай бұрын
Pastors are held to a higher standard. God is definitely bringing Justice.
@heman77677 ай бұрын
You go girl. You're right on. Expose the works of darkness. If he's a public figure publicly he should be shamed. Especially as a so-called minister of gospel.
@wordsofourtestimony63907 ай бұрын
Amen
@abelinolopez19576 ай бұрын
I love that you didn't just talk crap but use the scriptures.
@ricdavid74765 ай бұрын
scriptures that were written for people thousands of years ago. All of us came into this world because their parents had a few moments of lust and used their waste organs for a few seconds of God given fun. Religion wants to turn this into a neurosis and then wonders that the people who teach the nonsense actually have s**t that smells just like everyone else. Jesus did not end what God created Jesus ended sin in his short work on the earth, not evil. God created good and evil isaiah 45v7 and they still exist, sin does not. To lie is evil because it means that you judge another persons flesh as being inferior or worth less than yours. Bickle did evil he did not sin and for all we know he is still evil
@knowsmebyname7 ай бұрын
A smart young lady. It's obvious...you can't hide it. The gift of wisdom is a gift that must be shared. Good job sister.
@reborso49113 ай бұрын
Just found you…that “TikTok”release. I don’t even know your name yet but thanks for holding forth for your generation. I would have been you 52 years ago if they had had such things as internet. Please have good counsel….other good folks your age and older, to advise and back you up! Blessings…..
@Judyssma7 ай бұрын
If you're in ministry and you sin but don't repent you must go
@bk364427 ай бұрын
1 thessalonians 5:22 Paul states to, abstain from all appearance of evil. People on the outside looking in, see something fishy might be going on here. This is exactly what this verse is referring to, which Mike Bickle was not following, even more important, for someone in a leadership position. At my church, the pastor and his wife would both do christian counseling together, to avoid these types of issues. There should never be one on one counseling, with nobody else around. Just an example
@ricdavid74765 ай бұрын
no one here is a 2000 year old thessalonian so what on earth has that got to do with anything?
@bk364425 ай бұрын
@@ricdavid7476 where do these people come from?
@ricdavid74765 ай бұрын
@bk36442 no idea, but I am certain they are not residents of Asia minor who posess a time machine
@bk364425 ай бұрын
@@ricdavid7476 drugs and sci-fi movies are not a good combinatioon, look what it's done to your mind. Seek help
@michaelelder98217 ай бұрын
amen. not keeping up w/ all the sorted details but from what i know (and sense) you're spot on. thanks for doing this.
@cindyhotchkiss86077 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing the truth
@crimegeek7 ай бұрын
My heart goes out to MB’s wife.
@hitherefrompointswest48057 ай бұрын
This was so sad, wow a lot of us didn’t know what was going on.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
We all go astray like sheep. 🐑 perhaps repenting from being sheepish is being wise as a serpent. The scripture says wisdom increases suffering(perhaps the realization of all that goes on, you feel the suffering more, not the fact that suffering increases when people get wise).
@birchandmorley7 ай бұрын
I can remember years ago - 30-40 - my church had a prophetic conference and Mike Bickle was one of the guests, when he got up and started speaking, it was nothing but jibber jabber, nothing coming out of his mouth made any sense. He was never allowed to speak at our church after that. I had friends that sat under him and could not understand how they could not see through his BS. Anyway, it is true, what is held in darkness will come to light. God is doing a shaking and a cleansing, and first it is to be done in the church. So thankful to see the wickedness of leaders coming to light. Judgment - then mercy. I pray these individuals truly repent.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
First Daniel Savala and chi alpha… then Mike Bickell and ihop, now with Katt Williams about TD Jakes. Sheesh.
@Matinee.936 ай бұрын
Well said! You speak the truth!
@gungeIigung6 ай бұрын
Wasn't Mike's son involved in some way as well?
@Peace-bx5dh7 ай бұрын
How in the world this kind of stuff can happen?? Unless they were alone without third party, which is automatically breaking the rules of any business and disqualifying personal from any assignment.
@Peace-bx5dh7 ай бұрын
100 % agreed with you on that. In my world business, every person is accountable, having social skills, trained, educated, specially if you are interacted with people. Even humour and jokes must be clean, not offensive, not negative, and of course no any harassment’s.
@Zadok19777 ай бұрын
Thank you for your Bravery. There must be Accountability. Leaders should be held twice as accountable. There is NO excuse. Sad
@johnwoodward18737 ай бұрын
It definitely sounds like a cult to me.
@thelatestgreatest80826 ай бұрын
It is a cult. It 100% is. And Bickle is the false prophet freak leader
@dashlamb93187 ай бұрын
Loved your "rant." So refreshing to see a young person like yourself with a clear understanding of her person hood, self worth, anatomy, dignity, and sovereignty.
@borneyraybergantine21247 ай бұрын
God answers prayer. You've come out from among them in understanding the mind of Christ. Now may God lead you into ministry where you call others to the light of understanding of God's perfect will in everything.
@DadsBoyz5 ай бұрын
1:40 thank you for that explanation. I never thought of it that way before.
@user-zw2rj8xh1z7 ай бұрын
God has better plans for life where he may lead you. HALLELUJAH
@maxemrich87783 ай бұрын
The reason she has come out just now (well last year of course), is that she got notice of other cases that it is still happening or has happened to other women, too, amd not only her.
@HolyReV7 ай бұрын
Father God Loves You All ❤️
@carolwilliams53373 ай бұрын
God will judge, that should terrify Mike Bickle and his cronies
@heritagechiropracticwellne62097 ай бұрын
Very good...wish more people would come forth
@AB-fd7pj6 ай бұрын
Praying the powerful prayer groups will remain strong. That they have their eyes on Christ and not on any man. The entire church needs this… WE ARE NOT LEAD BY MEN. We follow Christ and are empowered by the Holy Spirit. Stop expecting men to be sinless. These women were manipulated but they were all adults. They too need to repent and receive grace. Bickle needs to step aside and allow the Lord to deal w him. I don’t see him ever getting back into leadership.
@sunshineable51976 ай бұрын
there’s two who were minors when this happened
@nonyabusiness97475 ай бұрын
It would behoove you to read john paul jacksons "the vieled ploy." If M.B. was guilty before God, then Holy Spirit would not of shown up to 24 years worth of prayermeetings. Its interesting to me that so many are operating in the exact same control spirit they accuse mike of operating in exclaiming mikes repentance doesnt look like they think it should. Oh that we would be free from the leviathan and jezebel spirit!
@jasonhamilton71477 ай бұрын
Well said.
@whatdoyougottolose99576 ай бұрын
Quiet some years ago already, I had once a flatmate (in Jerusalem) who spent 7 years at IHOP... I only thought, what have they done to him, he's so off the wall?
@fredkornis7937 ай бұрын
No matter what… Mature people will be very sad, broken… And humble about this mess… Don’t act or speak with arrogance or glee… WE NEED TEARS TO HEAL 😪 The heart of Jesus… Tortured and hanging on a cruel cross… “FATHER, FORGIVE THEM… they know not what they do…”
@juliewaring6045 ай бұрын
I totaly agree re it taking a while to realise you are being abused....strange as it may sound...after 12 years of a similar marriage i actualy had to google ` am i being abused` before it would sink in...i think its a process of denial, shame, regret and panic that the relationship isnt what it is supposed to be so i realy understand it taking a long time for a person to come forward with this, havig said that i am realy in shock about all this ihop stuff
@kathiewalters7 ай бұрын
Now there are others who talked to Dean
@nickypendleton40667 ай бұрын
keep up the good work
@MicahBuzanMUSIC15 күн бұрын
IHOP is a cult. Not surprising this stuff is coming out. Not surprising at all.
@Judyssma7 ай бұрын
What kind of stuff are we talking about ?
@theresaread727 ай бұрын
Beautiful use of scripture. I also think the IHOPKC doctrine in false as Bill Johnson, Chris Valloton books in the Forerunner Bookstore were full of New Age Mysticism and elevating Prophesy above scripture. Holly Pivec KZfaq addresses the issue as well as her books with Doug Givette as I don’t have space here, and would recommend those leaving IHOPKC. May God richly Bless your 2024! Keep using scripture to address this important issue! Thank you
@joemorrell58847 ай бұрын
I like your attitude. A couple things that you might consider. David sinned egregiously yet God continued to sustain him as king. Also if you fall on the rock is a good idea. Whatever reason you needed to fall on the rock for is behind the back of God never to be seen again, at least by Him. When the rock falls on you is obviously a different outcome. But the most important thing is that your sin is behind the back of God never to be seen again. Who cares what gossiping people think because there will always be gossipers. Only Mike and God know if he truly fell on the rock as Mike has declared he did back when...
@sunshineable51977 ай бұрын
The difference between David and Mike is David confess to his sins and begged for forgiveness. Mike Bickle tried to cover it up and it’s tried to change the narrative multiple times making him out to be the victim. That is why God is calling him out for his sin publicly.
@sheilaboland62857 ай бұрын
Arac, that’s why we have a Savior. We are sheep and sheep are dumb. Most of these KZfaq replies sound secular. His mercies are new every morning.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
There are also goats.
@carolwilliams53373 ай бұрын
This all too true. Evil
@user-zw2rj8xh1z7 ай бұрын
Amen
@Judyssma7 ай бұрын
Honestly at that age we are not mature enough, naive and very vulnerable. Let's just remember where were at that age?
@clairstberry7 ай бұрын
No. You contradict Jesus who says tha ge will tear in pieces those who abuse his sheep. Do you have a right to contradict Jesus, of course. But it makes your opinion, irrelevant, as well as demonic..
@turquoismama337 ай бұрын
Good for you. Keep talking about it. I'm not even involved with any of these people and I'm talking about, because anyone who has been sexually abused, needs to talk about any situation that involves sexual abuse. Especially in the "Christian realm". Your statement on not even knowing that you were in an abusive relationship is what we all need to address. We need to help each other understand the signs. And in reading the comments, that is what some of the people are trying to tell you when they are addressing your clothing. Our American society has made things acceptable and we Christians are buying into them. True modesty has gone out the window and we have to get it back. Especially as Christians. Tank top and shorts are so much part of society that us Christians put them on and don't even think about it. I used to attend Chuck Smith's church and 75% percent of parishioners came to church in tank tops and shorts. I didn't because I got cold easily. But, if we got the opinion of the males, we would realized how that is affecting them. So to think that what these people are saying is taking away from the topic of the video is being naïve. It is a very big part of the topic and a way that sin can be hid in plain sight. Not you, but by people like Mike Bickle. Having a 19 year old girl walk around inside a church in a tank top and shorts looks normal for our society. But someone like Mike Bickle takes that and runs with it. Do you understand what I am saying? So if we don't talk about and teach others what signs of abuse looks like, then it will keep happening. And helping people see how their own actions are keeping the problem going, is the goal. Do you understand that even "modest" clothing is cut, stitched, shaped and other things to focus on certain areas of the body? The whole fashion industry has a very sexual agenda. Thank you for pointing out the issue of the Paris trip and the apartment bought and the key to his office detail. All those are signs of something wrong. And we have to get people to understand and see these signs. And another key word - bubble. Any group of people that creates a bubble environment, needs to be run from. Run as fast as you can. Unless you are there to rescue people. There is much more to say, but maybe that's content for another video. And if I can get the equipment I need, I will get back to making videos myself. Thank you for letting me comment. Yeshua's Blessings on you and yours.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
I’m not the person in the video but they are aware of this mirroring of their video and have responded to some of the comments. If you would like me to mirror your videos, lemme know. If you would look into the Chi Alpha / Daniel Savala situation and talk about that, that would be helpful. XALIONSDEN.com has a lot of information about it. Lots of College students are in Chi Alpha who are likely unaware of the cult like hold Chi Alpha has over their directors/staff/members.
@turquoismama337 ай бұрын
@@Arockstuckinthedirt Chi Alpha is new to me, though I have attended AOG churches in my past, I'm not directly involved with any of them at this time. I am going through the xalionsden forum and looking for a thread that I think I should comment on. I am not an "alumni" of chi alpha, so not sure if starting a thread of my own should be done. I will continue to keep my eyes and ears open for things regarding this group. But, some of what I have to say is not group specific as signs of or potential of sexual abuse applies to family and/or workplace environments too. An it can apply to secular environments also. I would like to mention the Church Militant debacle in this as, hypocrisy is also an issue among humans. In their case, its not about sexual abuse, and adult consent is a factor, but its about hidden sins. Which is what is happening in all these little kingdoms of churches, ministries and non-profit organizations. We also see this in politicians. And many homes are set up as little kingdoms, with the parents doing whatever they want, causing much harm and damage. We have a BIG issue with accountability worldwide. We are all doing what is right in our own eyes. None of us likes to be told what to do. And killing the flesh daily is our quest, with very few successes. We love sitting on whatever throne we find. And we refuse to let Yeshua stay on the throne of our hearts and minds, and we keep kicking Him off. And the gentleman that He is, He let's us. He never forces us to do anything. But, when we sing "I surrender all.", what do we think that means? We have no idea when we first say and sing that. And when we agree to letting Him mold and make us into the vessel He wants, again, we have no idea what we are saying. He has reminded me many times, "You gave Me permission to do what I will with you." Fortunately, He's very patient, kind, merciful and understanding, and I am very serious about giving Him that permission, so things are still going good with Him and I. I have not "deconstructed my faith" to the point of leaving the relationship with Him. Have I left the constraints of organized church, somewhat yes. And another reason why I'm not involved with many of these "ministries". I'll end this book, but anyone can feel free to keep the conversation going in any way they want. I'm open to any questions, comments or complaints. Two cheers for being better Christians and keeping things in a real relationship with our LORD Jesus Christ.
@sunshineable51977 ай бұрын
For starters thank you for being kind in your wording. But I also would like to point out a few things. I’m in my own home. If I was going to church then yes I would’ve dress nicer. I’m not gonna show up to church in sweatpants. I even commented in the video that I was sick and uncomfortable and I still made this video because that’s what God was putting on my heart. all I wanted to do was sit on the couch in my sweatpants and scroll through social media because my head was pounding. God told me to speak on this so I grabbed my Bible and I spoke. The thing is is in your paragraphs you gave Mike Bickle excuse and I don’t think you realize this. You literally pulled the She might not have been dress modestly. I have worn thick sweatshirts and baggy pants and gone to the grocery store and men have made disgusting comments at me. I have dressed modestly and still had grown men make me feel uncomfortable. Mike Bickle is the one who is wrong for his sin and we shouldn’t put any blame on that 19 year old who he hurt and misled when God gave him a flock to watch over. The comment section has decided to come for me and my clothing to pull away from the message being said. A pastor I grew up knowing abused a girl who probably dressed modestly. the Devil wants Mike Bickle to continue leading and to continue false preaching and hurting people and pulling people away from Christ. Because that’s what he does when you abuse the flock. I’m going to ask you to spend some time with God asking him what he thinks about this whole situation. And come back when you have
@jimorsheryl7 ай бұрын
Firstly you say certain things did in fact happen, do you have first hand knowledge? If not, it is hearsay. I am no defender of Bickle or IHOP, in fact I can't think of ONE minister or minsitry that is worthy of the worship THEY are given. That said, if what Jane Doe has said was in fact true, she engaged in a sexual relationship with a married man for period of time. That in fact is two sinners engaging in sin. She was past the age of accountability and so far all I hear anyone say, is it wasn't her fault becuae of blah blah blah. The idea that all 19 year old females are these wide eyed innocents is just fanciful. According to the law in Deut. 22 the penalty for both of them would be death. Any ministry or 'believer' that thinks God is going to wink at sin any longer didn't get the memo. To properly resolve the case with Bickle and Doe, they BOTH need to come before the Church and God and give their testimony and let God decide. Remeber Ananais and Sophira?? Wound't it be refreshing if fear of God actually returned to the Church. Bickle and IHOP are not the only ones being jujdged right now, how /beleivers/ are handling this is quite interesting. The number of things God hates, that 'beleivers' are engaging in, shows just how pitiful this Laodicean church is in this day.
@fredkornis7937 ай бұрын
Very wise words and observations…💕🙏🏼
@jakestoltenberg91015 ай бұрын
Hate the sin. Not the person.
@Esplin-gz9ej6 ай бұрын
nice filter. Jeremiah 4:30 - And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do? Though thou clothest thyself with crimson, though thou deckest thee with ornaments of gold, though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair; thy lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.
@Arockstuckinthedirt6 ай бұрын
Ex-IHOP talks false modesty narrative that was in Mike Bickell’s IHOPKC cult. Sunshine able & Bible kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6uWlbSXpquwZpc.html
@sunshineable51976 ай бұрын
😂 that is the best defense you have against me? I apologize that I didn’t turn the filter off when I filmed this. Now go and call out mike bickle and ihop for what was clearly the point of this video 1 Corinthians 5: 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.
@madammim6947 ай бұрын
how could she not just speak up for herself, omgosh, how did he isolate her from everyone? how did he make her stay in an apt? doesn't make sense. and what is this spiritual abuse ? All this talk about how empowered women are, all these tiktak vids girls make showing themselves to be so strong and bold. What is happening in America???
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
It says in the video how he isolated her from everyone.
@phillipbruff66437 ай бұрын
Maybe somebody should pray for Him (M.B.) Who is safe from the enemies attacks? Anyone could fall . Father in the name of Jesus i ask you to show Mike how much You love him and how he has fallen. Direct him to True Repentance in the name of Jesus i ask this For Your Kindness and Love.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
He initiated a 24/7/365 prayer called IHOPKC. He was being prayed for, as he was also preying on Jane Doe.
@docbarm33387 ай бұрын
Oooh… please be careful. The one who lives in regular, constant sin, ignoring, downplaying, excusing, and not repenting is not the one “being attacked by the enemy”!!! There is a huge difference between a fall and living in sin. Huge difference. Mike Bickle is being accused of the latter and it is truly horrifying to claim he is the one being “attacked by the enemy” - a sexual abuser, a spiritual abuser (who uses prophecy to manipulate and control anyone who has less “power and influence”) repeatedly with many women and now we can see and hear how he spiritually manipulates his followers - to control the narrative and cover his sin again and again… God forgive us! May we not ignore the abused and label them the enemy!!! Lord! Come soon!
@phillipbruff66437 ай бұрын
Does this mean you stop praying for Him?
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Do you pray for every person on the planet that you know the littlest thing about? Do you pray for every evil person you hear about and all the victims as well when you do?
@phillipbruff66437 ай бұрын
Saul of Tarus had Christian cousins that prayed for Him alot. Look what that did
@sheilaboland62857 ай бұрын
Kansa, MB always preached about the older generation stepping down to let the young ones come in.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Talking and doing are two different things. That’s why they call it hypocrisy.
@docbarm33387 ай бұрын
Except for MB of course… he has preached nearly or up to half the sermons up until they had him stop.
@davidwalorski57557 ай бұрын
Sin is sin is sin.........
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
……………….
@antoinecabrera80866 ай бұрын
Good wordd and rigth witnessing but the video is bad. Pity but great job. Bless you in the Lord
@farealwitit79477 ай бұрын
she should cover up if she wants anyone to take her seriously
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Mike Bickell should not be having inappropriate relationships with 20 year olds while he is married. He should also not make a practice putting his hand around the throats of these girls too. That is if anyone wants to take him seriously.
@farealwitit79477 ай бұрын
your comment had nothing to do with my comment lol. why dont you try sticking to the subject@@Arockstuckinthedirt
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
I was :)
@farealwitit79477 ай бұрын
Proverbs 6:16-19 New International Version 16 There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.@@Arockstuckinthedirt
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
That lines up very close to Mike Bickell. Thank you for sharing it. Reason why I don’t dive into your position is because the girl in the video has already addressed it in both the video and comments… and to my consideration I consider the wear of the person a bit more like dust, and the behavior of Mike Bickell a bit more like a plank. Great Bible verse… you can consider someone who is full of those as often someone who is a gossiper. Ready to find slander in the smallest things.
@kathiewalters7 ай бұрын
Ephesians isn’t in the beginning of your Bible ha ha
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Good eye Kathie. (I’m not the original person in the video, but I noticed that my first watch too)!
@sunshineable51977 ай бұрын
It’s called mirrored filming when you used the forward facing camera. 😂 but I did actually read from Ephesians
@junliang74167 ай бұрын
her clothing and appearance do not look like one belongs to IHOP.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Neither does being a pastor and having inappropriate relationships… but that is the head pastor of IHOP for MANY YEARS. Speck vs logs.
@eveelsbury83417 ай бұрын
So this girl should cover up So she. can fit the mold of the typical ihop “inductee”?….that might mean she would need to be 80 pounds overweight, wearing a frumpy t- shirt with old tennis shoes. She might need to be under employed, and perhaps living on donations because she and her mother and absent father are supposedly in “ministry” in this organization. She is an attractive but average looking girl, dressing like an average 19 year old. Nothing special, nothing seductive. Even if she were seductive, perpetrators don’t need a seductress…They just need passive and decisionless victims perhaps like many who attend ihop. … I don’t think many “I-hop” attendees would argue that ihop is the perfect cesspool. The perfect victim is the woman of any age or ugly or beautiful who is helpless, overweight, with little history of meaningful employment who cannot leave because they have hoodwinked someone into supporting them I. Their ministry at Ihop. If someone doesn’t pay for their lining quarters …. where WILL they go? From the words this girl speaks in this video , it is my opinion and conclusion that she is naive but hopefully not so naive that she be willing to be the next “victim sacrifice”. Unfortunately if she grew up in this nonsense, chances are she was probably raised in the same passive home as the other devotees aka sacrificial victims . …believing and none the wiser about anything much but that at all costs the Balfour declared defacto estate of England renamed “State of israel” must be safe and funded, the non biblical fictitious Darby Schofield lindsey - End Times narrative must continue and the Great-Revival -Awakening- Reset (whatever) must be believed with out question even if contrary to what the Scripture plainly says. in other words the fiction must continue… the show must go on at the cost of all victims under the big-top. This confusing three ringed circus of electrified nonsense has been broadcast throughout the country for decades…is so creepy who in their right mind would accept it. It’s accepted when people loose their decision making capacités. No one paid attention to Ihop other than assuming that they were just a bunch of passive, dare I say seen as loosers not worthy of much attention. All thé while, the inductees for decades have paraded their fundraising efforts in blind submission to the British estate of Zion, without knowledge calling themselves ministry to God’s chosen. Hopefully, this girl, almost still a minor, not yet of the age of majority, will find her way out of the noise filled cacophony... This rhetoric has been promulgated within the walls of these organizations led by delusional so called leaders and their co-religionists for 35+ years. Wake up evangelicals and Charismatic’s …it didn’t start with Bickle . It’s been replete throughout the so called movement. These types of organizations often attract décision-less people who live for the drug their observers call “hopium” … they love to say they are crying out for God to do the big event, what ever it might be . It’s utter nonsense and its dispensational waiting, begging , crying for the kingdom to come always has been. It’s been a front for israel for small minded people who can be told a biblical narrative that they don’t understand historically nor question.. . Hopefully this girl can find her way out and live a normal christian life. The hard thing for her will be to realize that she and her parents were used as fundraising human shields and ignorant pawns for a murderous agenda she knew little about called Zionism. inside the “big-house”. She was fed and told what to think and feel. she was told she was part of “God’s plan” So sad….the pilfering for Zion and pickpocketing was akin to being a cheap whore, without the sex. Wish her the best.😂 this scandalous acts of these people are no different that’s Jeffry epstein. If things continue in the same trajectory these victims won’t get compensation.
@eveelsbury83417 ай бұрын
So should this girl fit the mold of the typical ihop “inductee”?….that might mean she would need to be 80 pounds overweight, under employed, and perhaps living on donations because she and her mother and absent father are supposedly in “ministry” in this organization. She is an attractive but average looking girl, dressing like an average 19 year old. Nothing special, nothing seductive. Even if she were seductive, perpetrators don’t need a seductress…They just need a passive and decisionless victim…. I don’t think many “I-hop”attendees would argue that ihop is the perfect cesspool. Predators look for helpless, overweight, under educated devotees who cannot leave (not always) because they have hoodwinked someone into supporting them. Where will they go? From the words she speaks in this video , it is my opinion that this girl is naive but hopefully not so naive that she be willing to be the next “victim sacrifice”. Unfortunately if she grew up in this nonsense, chances are she was probably raised in the same passive home as the other devotees aka sacrificial victims . …believing and none the wiser about anything much but that at all costs the defacto estate of israel must be safe and funded, the End Times narrative must continue and the Great Awakening must be believed worth out question even if contrary to what the scripture says. … in other words the fiction must continue… the show must go on under the big-top. This confusing three ringed circus of electrified nonsense has been broadcast throughout the country for decades… No one paid attention to Ihop other than assuming that they were just a bunch of passive, dare I say seen as loosers not worthy of much attention. All thé while, the inductees for decades have paraded fundraising efforts organization for similar Zionist fronts, calling themselves ministry. Hopefully, this girl, almost still a minor, not yet of the age of majority, will find her way out of the noise filled cacophony... This rhetoric has been promulgated within the walls of these delusional so called leaders and their co-religionists for 35+ years. Wake up evangelicals and Charismatic’s …it didn’t start with Bickle . It’s been replete throughout the so called movement. These types of organizations often attract décision-less people who live for the drug their observers call “hopium” … they love to say they are crying out for God to do the big event, what ever it might be . It’s utter nonsense and its dispensational waiting, begging , crying for the kingdom to come always has been. It’s been a front for israel for small minded people who can be told a biblical narrative that they don’t understand historically nor question.. . Hopefully this girl can find her way out and live a normal christian life. The hard thing for her will be to realize that it she and her parents were used as fundraising human shields and ignorant pawns for a murderous an agenda she knew little about called Zionism. inside the “big-house”. she was told was “God’s plan” So sad….the pilfering for Zion and pickpocketing was akin to being a cheap whore, without the sex. Wish her the best.
@Arockstuckinthedirt6 ай бұрын
Ex-IHOP talks false modesty narrative that was in Mike Bickell’s IHOPKC cult. Sunshine able & Bible kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6uWlbSXpquwZpc.html
@paulbarnett7367 ай бұрын
Are you one of them?
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
??
@lionheartmerrill10697 ай бұрын
@@Arockstuckinthedirt victims???
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Me as a channel is not the person in the video. I originally began this channel to document a situation with Chi Alpha and their decades long involvement with Daniel Savala which started having videos suddenly disappear eliminating more “incriminating” things. Like a mission trip Chi Alpha College Station had going to Daniel Savala in 2022 to help out Daniel Savala.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
If you go to xalionsden.com you can find a plethora of situations that happened in relation to Chi Alpha and Daniel Savala along with discussions on concepts that were used to create a high control low ability situation for a college student ministry.
@lionheartmerrill10697 ай бұрын
@@Arockstuckinthedirt OK, my mistake. I was looking for an update on the I.H.O.P. situation. I assumed you were the young lady in the video. Does she have a YT channel?
@joycecollins71486 ай бұрын
Gossip is wrong let God sort this out and pray for healing
@Arockstuckinthedirt6 ай бұрын
Gossip includes lying. Where are the lies?
@sunshineable51975 ай бұрын
So quick question, maybe us talking about the sinful nature is Gods way of exposing and handling this? Do you think of people decided to not speak about it that ihop would of ask Mike to step down? Cause the answers no, which would of led to more sheep being abused by mike and lead away rather then toward Christ
@wilki616 ай бұрын
You are totally out of line Bringing this in front of the world that’s not scripture he who is without sin cast the first Stone.There is no love in you and it shows me you have never known God
@Arockstuckinthedirt6 ай бұрын
IHOPKC brought this in front of the world. The person in the video is simply giving clarification over certain aspects of it.
@lynneeify7 ай бұрын
Ernest Gruen
@HerMajesty17 ай бұрын
He's dead, isn't he?
@usafirefly79677 ай бұрын
Still all 'accusation' and not that solid 'accusation' really. Just accusations at this point folks. I wonder too how much is misunderstanding. You all know the day and age we are living in folks.
@otherworld117 ай бұрын
BALDERDASH. He's been tossed to the curb for a reason - He's a total fraud, the single worst charlatan at work in the christian world.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
I love that word. Balderdash. Also I agree with your point otherworld11
@sunshineable51977 ай бұрын
Ihop confirmed inappropriate behavior
@mimicaban95517 ай бұрын
ihopkc permanently and officially separated from mike bickle on 12.22.23. i think that was the date. due to credible evidence.
@cobyteune7 ай бұрын
O.k. first dress your self and than make a video. That will help.
@Judyssma7 ай бұрын
She's wearing a shirt therefore she's dressed
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
It would help if Mike Bickle didn’t do what he did. What Mike Bickell Did. kzfaq.info2tuBNr1U8RI?feature=share
@lynnfarley78597 ай бұрын
Modesty is a sign of submition to the Lord. Apparently there are different opinions on what modest dress is.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Job made a commitment to his eyes. Jesus says if your eyes cause you to sin, gouge them out. Speck and logs. You might make a good point, but you might not be making the better point. It would be more helpful if you supported this young lady(I’m not her) is saying, instead of trying to change her clothes virtually after the fact. You’re good, this is just something that I’ve noticed happening, two good things are said, but the smaller one is said in an accidental or purposeful way to avoid the bigger wrong things.
@msegura63727 ай бұрын
This girl is beautiful but would be more beautiful if modestly dressed.
@Surelink7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry you have had a bad previous relationship and that is really sad. But I think that this contribution is not going to do any good and no good for you. Rather take things like this to God and let Him be the judge vs's you (and you are placing yourself as being the judge of things here). It may help you to blow off steam, but the danger is that you land up exposing yourself to a lot of humanistic emotion that does not help you or the situation. My suggestion is to take this down and let God deal with it. It is enough in the light for people who need to know and need to be engaged in dealing with it. But this is steam and not helpful to you really in the long term.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
Your contribution stinks.
@Surelink7 ай бұрын
@@Arockstuckinthedirt And yours? Full on judgemental rubbish - you contribute nothing of grace or intelligence.
@Surelink7 ай бұрын
Looked at your channel- you seem to be a solid New Testament Pharisee and self made finger pointer. Watchout thats always going to make you a hypocrite. Judge not - lest you be found wanting.
@Arockstuckinthedirt7 ай бұрын
My aim isn’t in particularly to judge people, but to let the victims of over powered people be represented. To state that Mike Bickell was guilty of something, while also to kind of white wash the wrong that has happened is kind of the tragedy of Sodom and Gomorrah…. God heard the cries. Are you hearing the cries of the victims or are you thinking that God needs a representative for the representing of the sinners. This channel began because those whom were hiding something, started hiding things, that they claimed in public. In terms of judgement… am I pulling the speck of dust out of someone’s eye, while I have a plank in my own? Are we not to judge even Angels one day, and so also discern what is the nature of the belief we are being given and in turn releasing into the world. How can one do this without discernment being called “judgemental” when one would easily call out a “judgement” in and of itself, which can be easily considered by its own comparison that very judgement being portrayed by the reactionary person calling Pharisee. Perhaps. 🤔:)
@janesmith7217 ай бұрын
It is helpful to hear her perspective! I disagree (Surelink) this is not humanistic emotion but experience. God is exposing the darkness! We should fear the Lord and turn from sin! Behold the ax is ready!