Wow..

joyce meyer can be a tough cookie

In The Jezebel Spirit teaching by John Paul Jackson (14 characteristics) best tape ever heard on subject listened to over 1,000 times since 1993 when first heard. BEST EVER! Francis Frangipane, Steve Sampson, Leonard Ravenhill, Derek Prince, Noel Alexander, Tim Davis some of the best teachings on Jezebel Spirit. Started correcting M.B./IHOPrayer from 1998-2012 he had a complete and utter disdain for correction even took M.B. World Wide News to no avail along with Ruck Joyner as one of the reasons why The Report Church Abuse List created. NO REPENTANCE OR HUMILITY WHATSOEVER SO NO PROVERBS 9:10! We're any of the Leaders Acts 16:33?

Amen

scriptures that were written for people thousands of years ago. All of us came into this world because their parents had a few moments of lust and used their waste organs for a few seconds of God given fun. Religion wants to turn this into a neurosis and then wonders that the people who teach the nonsense actually have s**t that smells just like everyone else. Jesus did not end what God created Jesus ended sin in his short work on the earth, not evil. God created good and evil isaiah 45v7 and they still exist, sin does not. To lie is evil because it means that you judge another persons flesh as being inferior or worth less than yours. Bickle did evil he did not sin and for all we know he is still evil

no one here is a 2000 year old thessalonian so what on earth has that got to do with anything?

@@ricdavid7476 where do these people come from?

@bk36442 no idea, but I am certain they are not residents of Asia minor who posess a time machine

@@ricdavid7476 drugs and sci-fi movies are not a good combinatioon, look what it's done to your mind. Seek help

We all go astray like sheep. 🐑 perhaps repenting from being sheepish is being wise as a serpent. The scripture says wisdom increases suffering(perhaps the realization of all that goes on, you feel the suffering more, not the fact that suffering increases when people get wise).

First Daniel Savala and chi alpha… then Mike Bickell and ihop, now with Katt Williams about TD Jakes. Sheesh.

100 % agreed with you on that. In my world business, every person is accountable, having social skills, trained, educated, specially if you are interacted with people. Even humour and jokes must be clean, not offensive, not negative, and of course no any harassment’s.

It is a cult. It 100% is. And Bickle is the false prophet freak leader

there’s two who were minors when this happened

The difference between David and Mike is David confess to his sins and begged for forgiveness. Mike Bickle tried to cover it up and it’s tried to change the narrative multiple times making him out to be the victim. That is why God is calling him out for his sin publicly.

There are also goats.

No. You contradict Jesus who says tha ge will tear in pieces those who abuse his sheep. Do you have a right to contradict Jesus, of course. But it makes your opinion, irrelevant, as well as demonic..

I’m not the person in the video but they are aware of this mirroring of their video and have responded to some of the comments. If you would like me to mirror your videos, lemme know. If you would look into the Chi Alpha / Daniel Savala situation and talk about that, that would be helpful. XALIONSDEN.com has a lot of information about it. Lots of College students are in Chi Alpha who are likely unaware of the cult like hold Chi Alpha has over their directors/staff/members.

@@Arockstuckinthedirt Chi Alpha is new to me, though I have attended AOG churches in my past, I'm not directly involved with any of them at this time. I am going through the xalionsden forum and looking for a thread that I think I should comment on. I am not an "alumni" of chi alpha, so not sure if starting a thread of my own should be done. I will continue to keep my eyes and ears open for things regarding this group. But, some of what I have to say is not group specific as signs of or potential of sexual abuse applies to family and/or workplace environments too. An it can apply to secular environments also. I would like to mention the Church Militant debacle in this as, hypocrisy is also an issue among humans. In their case, its not about sexual abuse, and adult consent is a factor, but its about hidden sins. Which is what is happening in all these little kingdoms of churches, ministries and non-profit organizations. We also see this in politicians. And many homes are set up as little kingdoms, with the parents doing whatever they want, causing much harm and damage. We have a BIG issue with accountability worldwide. We are all doing what is right in our own eyes. None of us likes to be told what to do. And killing the flesh daily is our quest, with very few successes. We love sitting on whatever throne we find. And we refuse to let Yeshua stay on the throne of our hearts and minds, and we keep kicking Him off. And the gentleman that He is, He let's us. He never forces us to do anything. But, when we sing "I surrender all.", what do we think that means? We have no idea when we first say and sing that. And when we agree to letting Him mold and make us into the vessel He wants, again, we have no idea what we are saying. He has reminded me many times, "You gave Me permission to do what I will with you." Fortunately, He's very patient, kind, merciful and understanding, and I am very serious about giving Him that permission, so things are still going good with Him and I. I have not "deconstructed my faith" to the point of leaving the relationship with Him. Have I left the constraints of organized church, somewhat yes. And another reason why I'm not involved with many of these "ministries". I'll end this book, but anyone can feel free to keep the conversation going in any way they want. I'm open to any questions, comments or complaints. Two cheers for being better Christians and keeping things in a real relationship with our LORD Jesus Christ.

For starters thank you for being kind in your wording. But I also would like to point out a few things. I’m in my own home. If I was going to church then yes I would’ve dress nicer. I’m not gonna show up to church in sweatpants. I even commented in the video that I was sick and uncomfortable and I still made this video because that’s what God was putting on my heart. all I wanted to do was sit on the couch in my sweatpants and scroll through social media because my head was pounding. God told me to speak on this so I grabbed my Bible and I spoke. The thing is is in your paragraphs you gave Mike Bickle excuse and I don’t think you realize this. You literally pulled the She might not have been dress modestly. I have worn thick sweatshirts and baggy pants and gone to the grocery store and men have made disgusting comments at me. I have dressed modestly and still had grown men make me feel uncomfortable. Mike Bickle is the one who is wrong for his sin and we shouldn’t put any blame on that 19 year old who he hurt and misled when God gave him a flock to watch over. The comment section has decided to come for me and my clothing to pull away from the message being said. A pastor I grew up knowing abused a girl who probably dressed modestly. the Devil wants Mike Bickle to continue leading and to continue false preaching and hurting people and pulling people away from Christ. Because that’s what he does when you abuse the flock. I’m going to ask you to spend some time with God asking him what he thinks about this whole situation. And come back when you have

Very wise words and observations…💕🙏🏼

Ex-IHOP talks false modesty narrative that was in Mike Bickell’s IHOPKC cult. Sunshine able & Bible kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6uWlbSXpquwZpc.html

😂 that is the best defense you have against me? I apologize that I didn’t turn the filter off when I filmed this. Now go and call out mike bickle and ihop for what was clearly the point of this video 1 Corinthians 5: 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.

It says in the video how he isolated her from everyone.

He initiated a 24/7/365 prayer called IHOPKC. He was being prayed for, as he was also preying on Jane Doe.

Oooh… please be careful. The one who lives in regular, constant sin, ignoring, downplaying, excusing, and not repenting is not the one “being attacked by the enemy”!!! There is a huge difference between a fall and living in sin. Huge difference. Mike Bickle is being accused of the latter and it is truly horrifying to claim he is the one being “attacked by the enemy” - a sexual abuser, a spiritual abuser (who uses prophecy to manipulate and control anyone who has less “power and influence”) repeatedly with many women and now we can see and hear how he spiritually manipulates his followers - to control the narrative and cover his sin again and again… God forgive us! May we not ignore the abused and label them the enemy!!! Lord! Come soon!

Does this mean you stop praying for Him?

Do you pray for every person on the planet that you know the littlest thing about? Do you pray for every evil person you hear about and all the victims as well when you do?

Saul of Tarus had Christian cousins that prayed for Him alot. Look what that did

Talking and doing are two different things. That’s why they call it hypocrisy.

Except for MB of course… he has preached nearly or up to half the sermons up until they had him stop.

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Mike Bickell should not be having inappropriate relationships with 20 year olds while he is married. He should also not make a practice putting his hand around the throats of these girls too. That is if anyone wants to take him seriously.

your comment had nothing to do with my comment lol. why dont you try sticking to the subject@@Arockstuckinthedirt

I was :)

Proverbs 6:16-19 New International Version 16 There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.@@Arockstuckinthedirt

That lines up very close to Mike Bickell. Thank you for sharing it. Reason why I don’t dive into your position is because the girl in the video has already addressed it in both the video and comments… and to my consideration I consider the wear of the person a bit more like dust, and the behavior of Mike Bickell a bit more like a plank. Great Bible verse… you can consider someone who is full of those as often someone who is a gossiper. Ready to find slander in the smallest things.

Good eye Kathie. (I’m not the original person in the video, but I noticed that my first watch too)!

It’s called mirrored filming when you used the forward facing camera. 😂 but I did actually read from Ephesians

Neither does being a pastor and having inappropriate relationships… but that is the head pastor of IHOP for MANY YEARS. Speck vs logs.

So this girl should cover up So she. can fit the mold of the typical ihop “inductee”?….that might mean she would need to be 80 pounds overweight, wearing a frumpy t- shirt with old tennis shoes. She might need to be under employed, and perhaps living on donations because she and her mother and absent father are supposedly in “ministry” in this organization. She is an attractive but average looking girl, dressing like an average 19 year old. Nothing special, nothing seductive. Even if she were seductive, perpetrators don’t need a seductress…They just need passive and decisionless victims perhaps like many who attend ihop. … I don’t think many “I-hop” attendees would argue that ihop is the perfect cesspool. The perfect victim is the woman of any age or ugly or beautiful who is helpless, overweight, with little history of meaningful employment who cannot leave because they have hoodwinked someone into supporting them I. Their ministry at Ihop. If someone doesn’t pay for their lining quarters …. where WILL they go? From the words this girl speaks in this video , it is my opinion and conclusion that she is naive but hopefully not so naive that she be willing to be the next “victim sacrifice”. Unfortunately if she grew up in this nonsense, chances are she was probably raised in the same passive home as the other devotees aka sacrificial victims . …believing and none the wiser about anything much but that at all costs the Balfour declared defacto estate of England renamed “State of israel” must be safe and funded, the non biblical fictitious Darby Schofield lindsey - End Times narrative must continue and the Great-Revival -Awakening- Reset (whatever) must be believed with out question even if contrary to what the Scripture plainly says. in other words the fiction must continue… the show must go on at the cost of all victims under the big-top. This confusing three ringed circus of electrified nonsense has been broadcast throughout the country for decades…is so creepy who in their right mind would accept it. It’s accepted when people loose their decision making capacités. No one paid attention to Ihop other than assuming that they were just a bunch of passive, dare I say seen as loosers not worthy of much attention. All thé while, the inductees for decades have paraded their fundraising efforts in blind submission to the British estate of Zion, without knowledge calling themselves ministry to God’s chosen. Hopefully, this girl, almost still a minor, not yet of the age of majority, will find her way out of the noise filled cacophony... This rhetoric has been promulgated within the walls of these organizations led by delusional so called leaders and their co-religionists for 35+ years. Wake up evangelicals and Charismatic’s …it didn’t start with Bickle . It’s been replete throughout the so called movement. These types of organizations often attract décision-less people who live for the drug their observers call “hopium” … they love to say they are crying out for God to do the big event, what ever it might be . It’s utter nonsense and its dispensational waiting, begging , crying for the kingdom to come always has been. It’s been a front for israel for small minded people who can be told a biblical narrative that they don’t understand historically nor question.. . Hopefully this girl can find her way out and live a normal christian life. The hard thing for her will be to realize that she and her parents were used as fundraising human shields and ignorant pawns for a murderous agenda she knew little about called Zionism. inside the “big-house”. She was fed and told what to think and feel. she was told she was part of “God’s plan” So sad….the pilfering for Zion and pickpocketing was akin to being a cheap whore, without the sex. Wish her the best.😂 this scandalous acts of these people are no different that’s Jeffry epstein. If things continue in the same trajectory these victims won’t get compensation.

So should this girl fit the mold of the typical ihop “inductee”?….that might mean she would need to be 80 pounds overweight, under employed, and perhaps living on donations because she and her mother and absent father are supposedly in “ministry” in this organization. She is an attractive but average looking girl, dressing like an average 19 year old. Nothing special, nothing seductive. Even if she were seductive, perpetrators don’t need a seductress…They just need a passive and decisionless victim…. I don’t think many “I-hop”attendees would argue that ihop is the perfect cesspool. Predators look for helpless, overweight, under educated devotees who cannot leave (not always) because they have hoodwinked someone into supporting them. Where will they go? From the words she speaks in this video , it is my opinion that this girl is naive but hopefully not so naive that she be willing to be the next “victim sacrifice”. Unfortunately if she grew up in this nonsense, chances are she was probably raised in the same passive home as the other devotees aka sacrificial victims . …believing and none the wiser about anything much but that at all costs the defacto estate of israel must be safe and funded, the End Times narrative must continue and the Great Awakening must be believed worth out question even if contrary to what the scripture says. … in other words the fiction must continue… the show must go on under the big-top. This confusing three ringed circus of electrified nonsense has been broadcast throughout the country for decades… No one paid attention to Ihop other than assuming that they were just a bunch of passive, dare I say seen as loosers not worthy of much attention. All thé while, the inductees for decades have paraded fundraising efforts organization for similar Zionist fronts, calling themselves ministry. Hopefully, this girl, almost still a minor, not yet of the age of majority, will find her way out of the noise filled cacophony... This rhetoric has been promulgated within the walls of these delusional so called leaders and their co-religionists for 35+ years. Wake up evangelicals and Charismatic’s …it didn’t start with Bickle . It’s been replete throughout the so called movement. These types of organizations often attract décision-less people who live for the drug their observers call “hopium” … they love to say they are crying out for God to do the big event, what ever it might be . It’s utter nonsense and its dispensational waiting, begging , crying for the kingdom to come always has been. It’s been a front for israel for small minded people who can be told a biblical narrative that they don’t understand historically nor question.. . Hopefully this girl can find her way out and live a normal christian life. The hard thing for her will be to realize that it she and her parents were used as fundraising human shields and ignorant pawns for a murderous an agenda she knew little about called Zionism. inside the “big-house”. she was told was “God’s plan” So sad….the pilfering for Zion and pickpocketing was akin to being a cheap whore, without the sex. Wish her the best.

Ex-IHOP talks false modesty narrative that was in Mike Bickell’s IHOPKC cult. Sunshine able & Bible kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f6uWlbSXpquwZpc.html

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​@@Arockstuckinthedirt victims???

Me as a channel is not the person in the video. I originally began this channel to document a situation with Chi Alpha and their decades long involvement with Daniel Savala which started having videos suddenly disappear eliminating more “incriminating” things. Like a mission trip Chi Alpha College Station had going to Daniel Savala in 2022 to help out Daniel Savala.

If you go to xalionsden.com you can find a plethora of situations that happened in relation to Chi Alpha and Daniel Savala along with discussions on concepts that were used to create a high control low ability situation for a college student ministry.

@@Arockstuckinthedirt OK, my mistake. I was looking for an update on the I.H.O.P. situation. I assumed you were the young lady in the video. Does she have a YT channel?

Gossip includes lying. Where are the lies?

So quick question, maybe us talking about the sinful nature is Gods way of exposing and handling this? Do you think of people decided to not speak about it that ihop would of ask Mike to step down? Cause the answers no, which would of led to more sheep being abused by mike and lead away rather then toward Christ

IHOPKC brought this in front of the world. The person in the video is simply giving clarification over certain aspects of it.

He's dead, isn't he?

BALDERDASH. He's been tossed to the curb for a reason - He's a total fraud, the single worst charlatan at work in the christian world.

I love that word. Balderdash. Also I agree with your point otherworld11

Ihop confirmed inappropriate behavior

ihopkc permanently and officially separated from mike bickle on 12.22.23. i think that was the date. due to credible evidence.

She's wearing a shirt therefore she's dressed

It would help if Mike Bickle didn’t do what he did. What Mike Bickell Did. kzfaq.info2tuBNr1U8RI?feature=share

Modesty is a sign of submition to the Lord. Apparently there are different opinions on what modest dress is.

Job made a commitment to his eyes. Jesus says if your eyes cause you to sin, gouge them out. Speck and logs. You might make a good point, but you might not be making the better point. It would be more helpful if you supported this young lady(I’m not her) is saying, instead of trying to change her clothes virtually after the fact. You’re good, this is just something that I’ve noticed happening, two good things are said, but the smaller one is said in an accidental or purposeful way to avoid the bigger wrong things.

This girl is beautiful but would be more beautiful if modestly dressed.

Your contribution stinks.

@@Arockstuckinthedirt And yours? Full on judgemental rubbish - you contribute nothing of grace or intelligence.

Looked at your channel- you seem to be a solid New Testament Pharisee and self made finger pointer. Watchout thats always going to make you a hypocrite. Judge not - lest you be found wanting.

My aim isn’t in particularly to judge people, but to let the victims of over powered people be represented. To state that Mike Bickell was guilty of something, while also to kind of white wash the wrong that has happened is kind of the tragedy of Sodom and Gomorrah…. God heard the cries. Are you hearing the cries of the victims or are you thinking that God needs a representative for the representing of the sinners. This channel began because those whom were hiding something, started hiding things, that they claimed in public. In terms of judgement… am I pulling the speck of dust out of someone’s eye, while I have a plank in my own? Are we not to judge even Angels one day, and so also discern what is the nature of the belief we are being given and in turn releasing into the world. How can one do this without discernment being called “judgemental” when one would easily call out a “judgement” in and of itself, which can be easily considered by its own comparison that very judgement being portrayed by the reactionary person calling Pharisee. Perhaps. 🤔:)

It is helpful to hear her perspective! I disagree (Surelink) this is not humanistic emotion but experience. God is exposing the darkness! We should fear the Lord and turn from sin! Behold the ax is ready!