I was one of those "starving artists" living off a small stipend sharing a 2 bed, 1 bath apartment with five guys. Thanks for fighting for us, Elizabeth

"Refused to accept a solution that only focused on Mike" THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!

Thank you for giving a powerful female leader the space to speak into this! Finally a woman in leadership weighing in on all of the corruption

Elizabeth admits her idolatry of Bickle. Credit to her. Others simply can't face the truth that they were deceived and groomed by a sexual predator for decades. Worship God, not man. May God heal the victims, and draw them closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.

The whole organization definitely needs to be investigated. 🙌🏻🙏🏻

Very impressed with your interviewing style. Let the guest speak, prompt them with questions you know your audience is asking, and know when to just let it flow. I was really hooked with this interview. Thank you for sharing!

the money lady lol - youre the best - such respect. We were so blinded by the happy, friendly, charismatic Bickle. We were so, so, so, so duped. We feel like fools after this. And the disappointment of moving countries for this. Very hurtful. Very deep. This has been a heartbreaking season for our family. We cannot believe the level of deception we were put under. Thank you for your boldness and courage for many Elizabeth.

I vote this as best interview concerning IHOPKC. Thanks to all. Question~has anyone filed charges on Bikle? This is criminal.

Thanks for sharing this. I'm a pastor that can learn from this interview and make sure this stuff doesn't happen in our church.

This woman is incredibly brave. She has to have lost the vast majority of her people just for telling the truth.

Elizabeth Herder I was so impressed by your broken and humble heart. The Lord is working it out in you and I really appreciate your willingness to humbly apologize to any you hurt while under the "spell".

Thank you all for this. I have a story to tell. And i will...in Jesus name. Tell my story!

This happened in so many churches, most not even affiliated with IHOPKC. The confusion that fogs people who are sensing something is wrong but are being gaslit is bewildering and painful. Takes a long time to recover.

Thank you Elizabeth and Wake Up & Win for this broadcast! You have an assignment and I declare favour for all involved who were hurt by Mike Bickle and IHOPKC!🇨🇦

Thank you Elizabeth! I’m praying all those still on staff will listen and wake up. Truth does set free. So grateful for this podcast so we can all wake up and win! Truth will not be silenced anymore…..

You were YOUNG. Blaise! It’s not easy to stand up to older people, especially Christians, because confidence and understanding is built over time.

Elizabeth, my heart broke as I listened. Thank you.

I don't want to over-spiritualize this, Blaise and Christina, but by "accidentally" switching that camera off, the Lord "took you out of the picture" because Elizabeth's story is so important, it needs all the focus right now. I'm having a hard time holding back the tears as I hear the incredible abuse this woman's husband suffered by the trumped up charges against him. The Lord is close to the brokenhearted, and this story I really feel touches the heart of God in a very big way. I could not finish the last paragraphs without the tears just flowing down. This situation is FAR from over. Thank you for your continued exposure of this situation. I believe there are many people who need to hear this. May the Lord continue to lead people your way to share their stories. (Please vet carefully before accepting any story, as you would not want a fraud to infiltrate your channel in order to bring damage to the testimonies.)

With each story I hear from insiders the more I relaize that Bickle has built a cult! That is why it is so hard to break away. I am praying that they wake up from their idolatry of this wicked wicked man!!!

Im shaking as i hear this 😢 and i write this...Unearthing pain indeed Blaise, i have a powerful truth experience of spiritual abuse from IHOPKC Dec 2015. I whistleblew back then 2015, then after 18 mths of being hidden away, i tried to reconcile & ask for a leadership meeting or email response Winter 2017 into Jan 2018 and was definitely black balled and silenced; the ripple effect of pain that affected my ministry, my personal family, the youth we served...so so deep. I had to go into safe housing for 18 mths because no one believed us or wanted to address the sexual sin and witchcraft that was literally being ALLOWED in the House. All thats been done in darkness, all coming to the Light now! In Yeshuas Name...Justice for all, including Bethany Deaton and ALL the victims & their families, including mine and my now grown children 26, & 23 who were deeply affected, witnessed and fell victim too!! 😢

Games over, Mike! We WILL NOT give up!!!! You're done!!!

Please bring Elizabeth back! So good.

Thank you Blaise, Christina, and Elizabeth! MB has so many wounded on the battlefield he created! I believe there’s going to be a great deal of healing taking place and a boldness and strength that can only come from the Lord! Be blessed all of you!

Mike probably put broken, unsanctified people in leadership because when they began hearing the disgusting stories about him and his family, they wouldn’t feel “qualified” to inspect and confront these situations. He truly is a master manipulator.

Thank you so much Elizabeth for sharing your story. My heart breaks for your pain. I am so sorry for what you’ve gone through. My family has been connected to IHOP for over 20 years. We’ve had many of the musicians and some leaders come to our home and we’ve provided dental care for them. I will say it was a joy to serve them. This whole insidious uncovering of what was behind closed doors (literally) is so hard to conceive, yet I believe you. You and the Jane Doe’s have nothing to gain from making up this story. The musicians- I think back and they were so innocent. Just kids. To be treated this way is unconcionable. They just loved the Lord and were so eager to live for Him. And you’re so right- believing that Mike is a “bad guy”- how do you wrap your head around that? I fear for the leadership, for Mike, for those who know the truth and are still standing behind him- I fear for them. For their final outcome. It’s not for me to judge that, but it’s terrifying to think about. I just wanted to say thank you and to all the AG for your bravery. I hope, as you say, you won’t give up. It needs to not just “go away.”

This is an important episode. Thank you Elizabeth for sharing your heart. Appreciate your vulnerability and honest owning of repenting for your unhealthy views of Mike. This doesn’t excuse his abuse but it’s so helpful for our journeys to own our piece of it. The culture was so toxic and your stories are so helpful! The feeding stories are disturbing!

I have prayed and prayed about this mess at IHOP. I'm glad spiritual manipulation and physical abuse is being exposed.

It takes an EXTREME amount of trust to watch a woman not his wife go behind closed doors with a man day after day in a ministry. Not enough space to post all the red flags. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

Makes sense that his son was in sexual sin , I wonder where that came from.

Being on the outside not knowing of IHOPKC or Mike Bickle until Nov. 2023, and looking in on all this. All I can point to is "Welcome to the workings of the spirit of the anti-christ' explained in 2 Thess. 2. The Church needs to look on all this as a warning to what we are going up against trying to get everyone through the narrow gate.

Blessings from Canada. 2 hours long, I am going to listen on my street outreach today. Blessings

We moved here in fall/winter of 2021….as we deconstruct and process these horrific events, I question what would have happened if even Marks story had come out then and not hidden…would we have uprooted our family and children and lives to come to the “sacred ihop”? The process of this has been excruciating on so many levels. The deception we were under the lies we be believed. The gold calf we had for Mike and ihop…I love how Elizabeth talked about repenting for herself doing that with Mike….bc it’s part of our process right now. This was actually very encouraging and even more eye opening. Thank you for sharing your story Elizabeth ❤️🤍and thank you Blaise and Christina for all you’ve done. You guys brought a lot of hope especially during the early days of this all coming out. Thank you. You have no idea how many you’ve helped walk through this TRAUMA. The literal trauma of this entire thing….earth shattering…touches every area of your life and you don’t even know until it does and you stop and say “oh yeah that too…”.thank you for saying “you’re not alone” and talking about the depths and levels of trauma. There are so many people who don’t get that and it can be very hard.

It’s fascinating they would KNOW his bad morals and ethics but would not acknowledge Mike was a fraud

They you so much for sharing Elizabeth and thank you Blaise and Christina for being a place for me to process and get clarity on this journey towards healing.

Friends of mine who were briefly in leadership in the early 1990's left KCF. They made this chilling statement back then, "Mike Bickle is very cunning."

She is processing and deculting: takes time, untwisting of scriptures manipulative controlling leaders use....

Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain.😢

This tears my heart out. God bless this woman.

This is called a “Cult of Personality.” IHOPKC must be shut down. Parents, get your young children and young adults out of there.

Absolutely incredible and helpful interview! Thank you, Elizabeth and thank you Blaise and Christina. I’m so hungry for justice and all to be revealed that’s being covered. Please keep the interviews (I loved the one with Julie R also) coming. Those of us who have experienced ihop (even for a short time frame- I did intro to ihop in 2003) deeply care what’s happening and probably most of us are interested in the victims, restoration and for the truth. But we all need to have hope that truth will win and have the final say.

not to be judgmental but, you’re telling me, people knew that marks wife was in mikes office for hours at a time with the door locked and had no questions and still followed him 🫣😳. that was the first red flag that shouldve had people running or screaming exposure.

This discussion is SO important! Personally, I loathe, more than just about anything else, being deceived. And I think it's the same dynamic of admitting that we have been a target of abuse. I think the reason it's hard to admit is because it feels embarrassing - "How could I let myself be abused???" This mindset is terribly off base of course! What the average person truly does not understand is how intelligently manipulative certain types of people are. They find a target, and are deliberate, calculated, and even patient as they woo the target into their world. This is called "love bombing." The evil behind this type of abuse is mindboggling, and therefore it's hard to believe it's real. The average person believes we are smart and savvy enough to detect b******t. But the average person grossly underestimates how brutally single-minded some personality types can be. I often joke that these people pursue targets like it's their job - they are EXPERTS at knowing how to insinuate themselves into others lives, and to set them up to be gaslit, demeaned, and finally so broken that they blame themselves for the disaster that life has become. I am deeply grieved over the extent of this manipulation and abuse. Lord, have mercy!!

This was a great interview! I am so grateful to you, Blaise and Christina for having Elizabeth. I watched her on the interviews that were done before and she is so genuine and believable. God is using the voices of many to bring about truth and hopefully justice to the victims of MB. Thank you for being a strong voice!

Courageous, sincere, vulnerable, believable, authentic. She will survive this personal spiritual crisis because she is honest, humbled, taking responsibility for her role, truly sorry and permitting further light and adjustment. If only the rest could follow suit. Looking forward to learning more from her.

I think Elizabeth is so deeply embroiled in the iHopKC culture and the trauma from Mike and some of the others' betrayal is so great that it's impossible for her to believe that the existing leaders may not want to do the right thing.

We we're one of those starving families in 2011 with 3 kids who moved to KC for IHOP and it's mission. We lived in a small, crappy, not in a good area apartment, we were barely 21, we paid out of pocket for Intro 1 and 2 and the CEC, we were unemployed technically, then we tried to find our way in the system for three years, but the system eventually spat us out due to time constraints, the big financial strain, and it was killing our marriage. We've been better since separating from IHOP.

One of the problems at IHOPKC is that nobody called MB for accountability. Wisdom should have been exercised and called him out on the shenanigans with spending time alone with another woman behind locked doors for hours. In our church, everyone trusts our pastor and yet, you will never see him alone in rooms with women or girls. His meetings with people are never locked, and the fact that there was 0 accountability for MB even when there were so many red flags is just ridiculous!! Did Diane ever go to church? Where was she in all of this?

Speaking for the victims - no amount of money can buy your innocence back, so even though you might be awarded money in a lawsuit, you cannot put a dollar amount on your innocence.

I’m still struggling to understand why no one is talking about Diane and why she put up with this known behavior.

Thanks so much for having Elizabeth on the podcast. This has been more informative to see the real truth of the story than just about anything else in this whole mess. It's amazing she seems without any bitterness.

when people SHOW you who they are, believe them. and she is sooooo right on about all ihopkc leaders stepping back and getting help, support, deprogramming

Totally agree. time to call to account charismatic leadership style & culture and transform...

Elizabeth. For such a time as this…. What a Blessing you have been!!All three of you are “ Jehu”

Sadly alot of wolves in sheeps' clothing in the "church", keep on the armor of God.

I so appreciate you sharing your story and your honesty, vulnerability and humility, Elizabeth. Thank you! Thank you, Christina and Blaise for all that you’re putting out there on this issue. You both honor and respect each other and flow together well as husband and wife and it’s refreshing to see. I listened to a few things in the beginning of all this mess and then set it aside, but just within the past couple of days, came across your podcast with Tammy Woods and have listened to a number of your podcasts. Well done on getting the truth out. 🙌🏻 All the victims should be compensated!

Thank you Elizabeth for being vulnerable to the world, speaking the truth and sharing your heart. I found it so helpful in trying understand what was really going on. Also thank you Blaise and Christina for using your platform to share this with everyone. I can't fathom the levels and waves of trauma... This is all so heartbreaking. I spent 7 yrs at Metro ( at GTC, in MC + reg. attendee) and was there when IHOPKC started. If you had asked me Oct 1, 2023 what 3 Christian leaders are the least likely to ever have a moral failure or have their integrity legitimately compromised I would have said MB. I've been praying and grieving for her and the other victims...plus all the confused and hurt people being left in the wake of this. Will continue to pray.

Elizabeth, as a person that works in finance, and worked on teams that helped get businesses back on track, you are a rock! I know all about the thankless work you do. It makes me furious that you did not get recognition for saving this organization. I hope you see your worth, and I hope you have a podcast bout this subject alone at some point. Christian businesses as a whole do not have a good reputation for giving women credit for the monumental things they do to save a company. I'm still chuckling about the neon flyers and the logo story 😅😅😅.

I can’t write THANK YOU out the number of times my soul is crying it. Micah 6:8. Never stop until it’s all lit up.

This is a mirror image of what happened to our church here in Billings MT. Difference being we had a female pastor. But everything you are describing Elizabeth I can relate to. I know the thinking, the second guessing, the shame, the tearing apart of your soul!!! I am not going to any church, I cannot. I am not friends with anyone from that church anymore. We were totally destroyed. I left in 2012. All this time later, I cannot bring myself to do anything but try….try to read my Bible and still trying to figure things out. This woman did so much to destroy people’s lives……ugh!! I am reliving emotions that I thought I had taken care of. 😭😭😭😭

IAM SO IMPRESSED WITH THIS WOMAN, ELIZABETH! She is not only brave but incredibly articulate, compassionate, wise, discerning, and trustworthy! Even with the statement she made about not trusting herself right now to be in leadership, while turning down a leadership position because of all the emotions she is dealing with right now. Then encouraging other leadership from IHOP to do the same thing. Her discernment is keen, you see it when she talks about Jane Doe struggling with that word the reporter wanted her to use but Jane Doe said it wouldn’t be truth. Spot on! Elizabeth is incredibly accurate in her discernment as she paid close attention to that little tidbit, revealing Jane Doe is trustworthy. I love Elizabeth’s boldness, she is a fighter and a lover of truth and justice.

Elizabeth mentioned spiritual abuse and not wanting to sound like a victim. From one who has come out of spiritual abuse, I have to say that I was a victim while I was under the spirit of manipulation a witchcraft spirit but as soon as I saw the depravity and left I was no longer a victim. And I would declare that, I am not a victim, I am an overcomer. And I completely understand owning my own. Confessing to the Lord my lack, my orphan heart. As I listen to these podcast I have to say that God is bringing me to a deeper healing.

Y’all need like 5 more interviews with Elizabeth! Next interview… talk about the money! Mike and his wife own a real-estate company…

Watching this today, I believe that this video can also serve the purpose of being like a "class" where Christians, Pastors, church staffs, should watch this and learn. I've been in full time ministry for over 25 years and have experienced many of these same things, just not on the same dramatic scales as this IHOP/Bickle situation. there are many "average to good" churches that have alot of dysfunction - good natured people falling into a "Blind, undiscerning loyalty" to a leader is much more common than people think. I know that the Lord wants to build a healthy church and I'm thankful everytime i see the truth being exposed, and another house of cards falling that needed to fall.

Thank you! The long arc of mercy is for the repentant; not those operating under the cloak of darkness! Elizabeth, you carry mercy well! May justice be accelerated for every person touched by this unspeakable evil! 🎉❤

Yes. There is an idolatry of Mike Bickle. Prays 12 hours a day. Of course he is the most holy. But your heart to help the hurting ones is amazing, even after you were hurting. Your insight to relationships is wonderful. Always loving others. Take time for your own healing too.

So everyone knew MB had a woman in his office behind closed and LOCKED doors and no one had a problem with this???

Mark was my manager at IHOPKC when I was in the Marketing Department. He is such a good guy! Really knowledgeable in Marketing and SEO. I learned so much!

Elizabeth, thank you so much for your honesty and vulnerability. I hope others involved will do the same eventually. You are so right about giving them time to fully come to terms with the fact that all were in a delusion. Not as involved as you but it took months for this to sink into my reality. I know I was in shock for awhile. Then horrified that I had been so naïve and gullible. It helped so much to hear you speak. May God bless you and all involved in the advocacy group.

I can not thank this Sister enough. Her testimony brings clarity and the entire story line full circle for me. I get it and I feel the travail in my belly. Dear God this was bad. WOW I feel the hurt. Praying for everyone who were victim to this unholy altar. I didn’t know any of these people before and vaguely familiar with Mike Bickel’s name. This is so hurtful. So wicked. Very traumatic. Restoration will come after this shaking. Restoration for those who have a heart for The LORD Jesus and the gospel. We gotta get back to the main thing. Preaching repentance and salvation through faith in the blood of Jesus. Shalom and Godspeed in Jesus name Saints.

My heart breaks for Elizabeth, what a heart wrenching experience to have to live through! May God continue to heal her heart.

I just watched a movie last night called, "She Said", which mostly focused on the victim/survivors of Harvey Weinstein. I kept thinking how much the stories of these women reminded me of this story...I'm thankful as a woman that we are getting a voice to no longer tolerate this type of abuse. I have worked with SA survivors--some who had been traf-ficked. Though many armchair judges don't understand how this kind of thing can happen and keep happening: first of all, to the level we judge others is the same measure to which we will be judged. Secondly, this type of abuse will actually break their brains--the fight, flight or freeze that Father gave us to survive trauma. It's an actual thing. When it's not an actual predator like a wild animal, then the fight or flight isn't activated due to being someone they thought was safe, so when abuse happens--including spiritual abuse, they freeze because they don't see them as a predator and no longer trust their ability to discern. It's part of what the evil doctors in Germany during WW2 used in their experiments and later continued on here with the MK Ultra program. Abuse and trauma are used to program....Watching the movie last night helped to show that even well known actresses struggled questioning what was actually happening to them and blaming themselves.. I was part of a well known ministry who had a narcissistic leader in one of the ministries within it who went rogue, so I can relate to MB not wanting to meet with the group, but only one on one. I was the first to meet with our leader and confront the things I/we were seeing wanting to practice "Matt 18", he twisted everything I said not allowing me to say much to the point that I was so confused afterwards. This is how he controlled the narrative rather than meeting with us as a group. A couple of days later a friend in the group also met one on one then called to chew me out saying this leader said I didn't say anything! Complete lie! I now know, over 25 years later, that the narcissism won't allow them to be confronted. As difficult as all of this is to hear, as these things are being brought into the light, it's actually weakening the power of this type of leadership style that has been going on way too long. Thank you for continuing to shine the light on this so that others can see it for what it truly is and get the healing that awaits them.

Some of this is wild. Sadly I’ve also experienced spiritual abuse and it destroyed my marriage. Your channel is healing for me. I’m not alone❤

It makes sense that wolves get together - make up a wolf pack. If you are comprised, you’d want people like that around you. Because they do not want to be outed either. So any Matt 18 confrontations by any one person, were effectively dealt with by the whole pack, because any victims were threatening the whole pack.

Elizabeth you are so brave and courageous. I am so sorry for your pain.

Thank you for this interview. Yes, not paying a living wage to people is what God wants from us. How we treat the least of these, is how we treat our Lord.

Mercy confronts… I needed to hear that… thank you 🎉

Where on earth was Mike Bickle's wife during these times when the other lady was frequently served Mike food and other stuff?

Woah best interview yet! I feel like you guys should have her back on as there is such wisdom and love, very solid foundation for people navigating this mess (or other related messes)

Right on, Elisabeth! This message is more important than you think.

I'm glad I tuned into this conversation. I have been praying for IHOP. I will continue to pray.

When I listen to this, and I get it up close and personal, as someone who has had this experience, it makes me so mad that people like Steve Strang, Rick Joyner and others align themselves with this evil predator and predatory behavior. It is so wicked beyond belief

That was a terrific interview! Thanks for bringing it to us.

Elizabeth! So proud of you for speaking up, and out. Thank you for your honesty and being so candid. All you shared will help others. So many, like you, have a broken heart over this horrific situation. Stay strong and know that you are doing the right thing.

Counseling should be offered and paid for the victims.

The idea of the “prophetic and prayer movement” has to be reckoned with as a core theology along with current charismatic / revivalist theology having its roots in gnostic, mystic, new age practices (Branham, Amy Simpleton McPherson) and the lack of biblical discernment

Why is there not a lawsuit against Mike?

Thank you for this raw interview! Praying for Elizabeth and everyone in the AG group as they go through this intense process of addressing, confronting and dealing with these horrendous issues

Thank you for doing what you are doing, Blaise and Christina.

Thank you Elizabeth for sharing the true spirit of many comments I’ve only heard through sarcasm, biting cynicism, and other unhelpful ways that have made it impossible to hear and apply in a spirit I feel comfortable with. I’ve neeeeded to hear these true accounts spoken from your perspective of love and mercy. and compassion. I wholeheartedly bear witness-each story is sacred-each son or daughter who has to unwravel these facts and their impact ❤ so appreciate you taking the time to share

The Word says "The Worker is worthy of his wages" so they were very Unjust in only paying out miniscule stipends while being greedy and fattening only themselves ugh 😢

I was a member of a Deeper-Life missionary sending group for 10 year... trained in their missionary training school for 3 years. They used God's Word to control and use us and if we didn't...couldn't conform to their dictates we were shamed and abused. My heart was broken...it took 3 years of therapy before I could recognize and accept that what happened to me cruel and abuse. I will have PTSD for the rest of my life. I know...I do know... how hard it is to accept who your "Godly" leader is and doing. I wish I had had a safe place to tell my story... I left labeled as a failure and shunned because I left "God's best". To this day no one knows the grief and pain I lived thru those 10 years "dying to self", being in submission and serving God. I went to the field at 20...I lost the best years of my life....

I was never involved with IHOP, nor did I ever attend. But my former small church in upstate NY had ties to Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson and we all knew Mike Bickle to be one of those other heroes of the faith. 2018 was the start of my end of attending my church that I had been apart of since I was 18 (more than 20 years ago.) The scandal wasn't identical, but the cover--up pattern is identical. It's amazing how all of these narcissistic leaders run by the same playbook and use prophecy to manipulate the audience. Elizabeth, I just cried with you when you said you had fits of scream cries - I too have done the same. So many people left our church over the years and I was too busy being the good girl with my head in the sand never hearing both sides of the story. I just listened to and obeyed my leaders who I thought would never be at fault. Thankfully when 5 of us pillar families left at the same time, it was the beginning of the end. It took until 2023 for the doors to be officially closed and for the property to be sold. But my old pastor, is still out there "ministering" online with her "prophetic words" and she's very good at saying she's just being attacked by satan whenever someone tries to call out her narcissism and twisting of scripture. I can't even tell you how many times we heard "that love covers a multitude of sin" while her son was on trial and eventually got a life sentence for domestic violence and intent to kill. But he was the "Joseph" that we had to stick up for, even though he had a history of drug abuse, numerous DWI's, solicited sex from girls in the congregation - and we were the ones who needed to give and pray and fast that he would be found innocent. The evidence was so cleary obvious that he was guilty when it came down to the court case. I was told to ignore the "lying" victim and was asked to pray a psalm during the court case that said one verse about "dragging her through the mud" HUH??????? I've never yelled louder at my elder when that came out in an e-mail. I know there is nothing new under the sun. But God is exposing so much of this all at the same time during my life. I'm so bothered by what has happened to the "mecca of IHOP" that we all idolized. But hearing this testimony and hearing Elizabeth's heart - is exactly where I have been during my healing process. I've gone out of my way to apologize to those who left before me and repented for anything I said or a mindset that I stuck to to stay in good graces with the leaders and I now know what true repentance feels like. I've never seen that from one leader who was still involved when I left. All of their critical thinking skills slowly eroded away while they covered up so much spiritual abuse that happened behind closed doors. It's so weird that a little church in cow country , idolized IHOP, and how much this story affects so many people that you will never even hear from or talk to. Especially those of us who have endured similar scenarios of horror and life flipping upside down events from a ministry similar to yours. Thank you for speaking out, and helping me continue to recover from my own spiritual abuse story that will never be truly heard because we weren't a global ministry. So it's almost like you are also the mouthpiece for me - my story won't get out on podcasts or the news. Yours will, and the more this is exposed, the better. God is a God of justice and for that I'm truly thankful!

Well, what a beautiful interview! Thank you so much for doing this and thank you for Elizabeth’s courage as well! She gave a really good picture of what she and the other AG leaders are going through and it helps us to have compassion on our leaders even though they are not on the spotlight like Mike Bickle but like she said, we all have to take responsibility and accountability and to see where we played a part even if it’s looking the other way or are own naivety when it comes to abuse, her humbleness shines through. God bless you both for help to put pressure on IHOPKC, wish we could multiply you to every corrupt leader that there would be more armchair investigators as it’s true, they don’t want us to raise any issues so the talk dies down and they can continue to have their evil ways!

Awesome interview and questions Blaise and Christina . Mercy for the right people 🎯👏👏🙏🏻

Where are Luke Bickle and the woman who had an affair with him now? Are they still together? Are they still allowed at the ministry?

I'm going through a completely different situation... but the same traumatic confused questions... thank you for sharing, this was healing to hear.

Elizabeth truly is awesome. What a force.

God bless you, Elizabeth, you definitely carry your dad’s heart for the flock. What an excellent interview. Thank you Blaise and Christina…

Thank you Elizabeth for your courage to share your story. I am glad you are continuing to push for a third party to examine the entire organization and not just Mike Bickle.

Thank you Elizabeth. I so appreciate your openness.