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Explaining Digimon: How can GATOMON (CHAMPION) ARMOR? [Digi Question #1]

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5 жыл бұрын

Always wondered how GATOMON, a champion digimon like GREYMON, was treated like a rookie? Know that GATOMON "broke" armor digivolution because of the following question: Can other champion digimon (like Angemon) also armor digivolve?
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@andresmarrero8666
@andresmarrero8666 5 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate and respect people trying to analyze and connect the scattered, messy information into one structured world. It makes me wonder what could be if the digimon and pokemon franchises were to finally meet and fuse into one grand fantastical world. This is however a highly unrealistic dream.
@DigimonExplained
@DigimonExplained 5 жыл бұрын
Wooooow I will make a video about that!!!!! It would be craaaazzzzyyyyyyyy!! I want to work on it now hahahah it really excites me that Idea!!! It seems sooooo BIG!!!
@andresmarrero8666
@andresmarrero8666 5 жыл бұрын
@@DigimonExplained if possible I would lend my services to that endeavor. I love pokemon and I like digimon and I can vouch on the pokemon world's technology and magic quite well as well. Looks can be deceiving and the pokemon world is impossibly advanced. Not one you want to mess with.
@sparkgold3852
@sparkgold3852 5 жыл бұрын
the franchises are so different but theoretically the Digital World dimension might be able to overlap Pokemon's Dimension like the Ultra Beasts already have
@andresmarrero8666
@andresmarrero8666 5 жыл бұрын
@@sparkgold3852 the two are kinda like two sides of the same coin. Ironically enough.
@rayhayes7701
@rayhayes7701 5 жыл бұрын
Andres Marrero, I agree. The fan war between the two I felt was pointless. People didn't look at the facts and just said whatever just to start stuff.
@jimmyjones6962
@jimmyjones6962 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Gatomon would be a champion lvl because unlike the other 7 Digimon (patamon, palmon, etc) she Gatomon was basically by herself, not including Wizardmon, so she had to level up to champion level unlike the other Digimon
@robiu013
@robiu013 5 жыл бұрын
it's a logical explanation, but gatomon was introduced as part of the game Digimon Ver S. a year prior to the anime. They wanted to add new digimon into the game, but didn't want to mess with the original evolution lines, they set up in the virtual pets, so they came up with a dna digivolution method, where you could combine two digimon to create new Champions. Gatomon was part of the batch of new digimon and was very likely a champion so raising 2 digimon to create it, felt like a worthy pay-off. Salamon and the in-training forms were introduced later, because the digidestined had to have logical canon lines for their evolutions. or atleast i believe this to be so based on Gatomon's evolution line history.
@mkwhite5054
@mkwhite5054 5 жыл бұрын
See that explanation makes sense but it just doesn’t work in canon when it’s been shown numerous times that after their initial confrontation, gatomon has basically the exact same power level as the other rookie digimon did. Once thing that always irritated me to a degree was while the other digimon usually only went up to Champion in order to fight an enemy, Gatomon was always the one to go straight to mega in order to make herself stronger and be on the same level as the rest of the team. Gatomon being a champion wasn’t bad per se but they didn’t do much with it so the choice to make her one just seemed superfluous at best and illogical at worst.
@demonic_myst4503
@demonic_myst4503 2 жыл бұрын
yes that is true if read the lore abit digimon can acumilate data and naturaly digivolve doing thios they keep their new form a digivice is loike a cheat code its temporary boost that digivolves a digimon using a human.
@funkolantern
@funkolantern 5 жыл бұрын
I always figured that Gatomon was always reverting to its champion level after de-evolution because when she was raised in the digital world, she evolved naturally to Gatomon before joining Kari as her partner. Agumon and the others met them as rookies and came to the real world as such so that was the case. Only evidence i have backing this up is when there’s flashbacks of Gatomon‘s where she was Salamon.
@luka3796
@luka3796 5 жыл бұрын
They met them as in training digimon and evolved to rookies in ep 1 to defeat kuwagamon
@torrent3481
@torrent3481 5 жыл бұрын
for adventure gatomon started as nyaromon. when it's partner didn't show up it went to search on it's own eventually evolving into salamon then later to gatomon as part of myotismon's army. i think the reason gatomon is able to retain it's champion form is because it managed to evolve to that stage without the help of a partner digidestined. i also believe that the other digimon including gatomon are not able to advance further on their own is because they are now bound by a special rule that's dependent and intrinsically linked to a partners energy...gatomon is weakened without it's ring. it's a part of gatomon's being. it's like missing a body part for it...as some people know it was gennai who took gatomon's ring. i'm not sure about the japanese but, in the english dub it's mentioned to be used to unlock the armor evolutions.
@mikemiller8430
@mikemiller8430 5 жыл бұрын
In all honesty I think if the others trained hard enough they could probably digivolve on their own. They are not held back by a rule saying they can only evolve with a digidestined. I think of it like this, if nyaromon digivolved for the first time with Kari like the others did, then I don't think she even evoles into salamon.
@demonic_myst4503
@demonic_myst4503 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemiller8430 this is true digimon naturaly digivolve by acumilating data this data is perminent and keeps them in their new form a digidestined digimon usses a exsternal source to temporarily digivolve
@Solqueen86
@Solqueen86 5 жыл бұрын
Well lets not forget She lost her tail ring during that time and openly said without it she's as weak as a rookie Maybe in certain times Gatomons didn't have the tail rings so were much weaker but could armor evolution or were at a halt dead end evolution stopping at Gatomon and there was not enough data input to push up to Angelwomon so the armor was a "Slide evolution of sorts. So when she lost that ring she made the requirements to armor up. Or Gatomons were around in ancient times so technically they wouldn't be descended from an ancient species
@scarletrose8766
@scarletrose8766 5 жыл бұрын
Solqueen86 if gatomon/tailmon still has her ring she might have ascended to Ophanimon (not Ophanimon FDM) and not magnadramon In TRI as regular games shown you have the option to access Ophanimon Thru Gatomon line of evolution and a separate line of Evolution for Magnadramon
@TheMrVan101
@TheMrVan101 5 жыл бұрын
Armor forms are just like digimon frontier Slide evolution most likely away for ancient digimon to deal with different environments while still having champion level strength
@criixt
@criixt 5 жыл бұрын
Think about it this way. Would making gatomon revert to its rookie stage in season 2 make any sense from a production view. Lore wise, gatomons a mess
@ZephyrBW
@ZephyrBW 5 жыл бұрын
She’s catty but yes
@EiyreAnthonyEaston
@EiyreAnthonyEaston Жыл бұрын
It is explained in the beginning of 02 that Tailmon was powered down when she lost her holy ring. She was a rookie just like Patamon, Veemon, Hawkmon, and Armadimon. It was also pointed out in Digimon Adventure that because if training, she is able to maintain her champion form. She was reverting to Plotmon in some of the episodes.
@Shadothecat
@Shadothecat 5 жыл бұрын
They literally explain in the show. Gatomon's tail ring us a holy ring. It holds majority of her powers as a champion allowing her to be in a reduce size. When she lost it her powers reduce to a rookie level.
@johnpexton9208
@johnpexton9208 5 жыл бұрын
In season 1 she was already at the champion level in the digital world before meeting Kari. She gained the experience through years of enslavement to Myotismon to digivolve that is why she stays in her champion form when she reverts. As of season 2 They explained that when she lost her tail ring it held all her powers and without it she was on the same level as a rookie. Just because someone is at a rookie level it doesnt mean they are not powerful. Take Lucemon in his rookie form he is just as powerful or more than a mega level digimon. Angemon has the powers that of an ultimate and Magna Angemon has powers to contend with a mega level.
@prettyboi89ify
@prettyboi89ify 5 жыл бұрын
They said she was able too armor digivolve because she lost her tail ring and it brought her power down too a rookie level
@Shadothecat
@Shadothecat 5 жыл бұрын
That be right gatomon's tail ring holds majority of her power in her reduce size. When it was lost she became weaker.
@jaidamwhi4589
@jaidamwhi4589 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@BuddyC99
@BuddyC99 2 жыл бұрын
I never understood why they didn't just have her as the actual rookie stage and have her go into beach evolutions that way?
@prettyboi89ify
@prettyboi89ify 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuddyC99 right It would have made sense if gotomon was her rookie nefertimon was her champion and angewomon was her ultimate
@BuddyC99
@BuddyC99 2 жыл бұрын
@@prettyboi89ify exactly and with her mega depending on where the story (if changed) would be different. Like we could just stay in the ultimate until the movie and get pink god dragon or even throw ophanimon a bone somewhere in the series
@abraarquraishi1681
@abraarquraishi1681 5 жыл бұрын
A interesting thought i had, even though it’s probably not correct. There are some digimon which can exist in multiple levels, like whamon. Sometimes, he is a champion while others he is an ultimate. This could be the same with gatomon. A gatomon without a tailring could be considered a rookie despite being a champion because it is rookie version of gatomon instead of the champion version.
@Zekersaurusrex
@Zekersaurusrex 2 жыл бұрын
Great watch! This is my theory. First, Gatmon being able to stay in her champion form makes sense. Other digimon do it. Let's not forget, Gatomon is older than the other Digidestineds' digimon and she has been fighting and training with Myotismon almost her whole life. Remember how after using an ultimate form the digimon would revert back to their "In-Training" form but later on in the show they would return to their rookie stages? Same principle. They get stronger. As for how Gatomon can armor digivolve, it's simple. As many of you know digivolution is not linear path but a tree. You can "digivolve" up the tree in increments, "slide" to a different branch on the same level, or "warp" all the way to the top... That being said, Gatomon losing her ring is a convenient plot device. Without it Gatomon would be overpowered and armor digivolving would be almost pointless... But that is just my theory.
@dravguitao7265
@dravguitao7265 5 жыл бұрын
I always saw the situation as that Kari needed extra protection due to the 8th child being special, so Gatomon was destined for Kari because of that situation.
@anthonyaleman8963
@anthonyaleman8963 5 жыл бұрын
This is how I see it: gatomon seems to have a body of a rookie while it is a champion, because while the data that would be enough for a rookie's body would be stored in gatomon's body, while the rest of the data that would be needed for a champion body is stored in the holy ring, and since data can be changed in both the digimon franchise and in actual computer technology this would mean that the data gatomon absorbs becomes holy data and get stored in the holy ring while at the same time sharing that holy data with gatomon itself which is supported by the fact that gatomon is a holy beast digimon. and that the data that the digimental ( armor Digi-eggs) only gives enough for a champion body and since gatomon is a champion, neferitimon by that logic would also be at that same level just with more data while the program in the Digimental of light turns gatomon into neferitimon because that is what it is programed for, this is also backed up by the fact that digimon kill each other and get stronger by absorbing their defeated opponents data so that could be what is happening here and with other champions that can also armor digivolve.
@HORRIOR1
@HORRIOR1 5 жыл бұрын
Ummm… Angewomon DOES wear a holy ring! It is around her ankle.
@snupietherat6814
@snupietherat6814 5 жыл бұрын
ummm... angewomon is ultimate
@greed94
@greed94 5 жыл бұрын
Umm Don’t say umm makes ya look like assholes
@Shadothecat
@Shadothecat 5 жыл бұрын
choices says the asshole police
@riicky83
@riicky83 5 жыл бұрын
Probably Gatomon's size helps her to stay in her form as the size doesn't consume lots of energy like most normal sized Champions.
@scarletrose8766
@scarletrose8766 5 жыл бұрын
riicky83 she mentioned that unlike the others I think she managed to be comfortable with that form as Digimons tend to stay in thier favorable form like Leomon is what champion yet he's larger than tailmon by comparison but he was staying leomon ..... I think it's more of Digimons tend to stay in thier stable form which agumon and the others dosent stay for that long arguably metal garurumon while we dint see him change back after that issue with the dark master we see Yamato bolting with MetalGarurumon after the fight with tai but he should have revert back to gabumon however pinnochmon tried to control metal garurumon which arguably might have stayed as metal garurumon after his fight with wargreymon
@lokephoenix1039
@lokephoenix1039 5 жыл бұрын
Was NOT expecting the Summer Forest theme at the end there. That is beautiful
@Blah2000Blah
@Blah2000Blah 5 жыл бұрын
My opinion: Gatomon was around in the Digital World gaining power/data longer than the other Digi-destined Digimon, so her base form is Champion like Leomon in Tamers. Normally without a Digivice a Digimon would naturally evolve and stay at that level as they gained power or were exposed to certain data, but the Digivice is like a cheat code that allows temporary gains in power. A better way to look at Digimon levels is through the original scheme: child, adult, perfect, and ultimate. Gatomon is just an adult Digimon. Armor evolution isn't actually a champion level evolution, it's more like a power mulitplier. It isn't restricted to rookies, just Digimon who are compatible with the Digimentals. Magnamon, for instance, has the strength of a mega level Digimon, but Flamedramon is much closer to a champion.
@abraarquraishi1681
@abraarquraishi1681 5 жыл бұрын
The reason i think gatomon was permanently a champion rather than a rookie is because it digivolved “naturally” to champion. I believe that there are two types of digivolution, one where a digimon digivolves “naturally”, and they stay in their new level like most of the digimon seen in the anime, like leomon, pixiemon, etc. Then there are the digidestined digimon, which undergo a type of ”burst”, or “boosted” digivolution, where instead of gathering the data naturally, they instead use the energy of their partner to undergo digivolution.
@Caramelboii91
@Caramelboii91 5 жыл бұрын
Her power comes from her tail ring... without it she has the power of a rookie. Plus, Salamon digivolved to Gatomon naturally before she ever met Kari, so she can hold her Champion form indefinitely while the other Digimon can’t.
@Hulkitout
@Hulkitout 5 жыл бұрын
Nefertimon may be armored because she has saberleomons gloves so when she armors up more, she gets a mix of saberleomon and her holy dna and creates a spinx
@omnizx4155
@omnizx4155 4 жыл бұрын
So here’s what I think, or thought with the holy rings, so in the first season. Angemon competes with the ultimate digimon, so maybe holy powers are in play
@170skeith
@170skeith 4 ай бұрын
Wait until you see that every digimon that armor digivolves in the show has what looks like the rookie form underneath the armor just like Gatomon(losing her tail ring nerfed her to rookie level) and Patomon. Flamedramon is Veemon inside of armor, Digmon is armadillomon inside of armor Etc. the evolutions we get outside of the show mess that up and look pretty random but KarnEX does some great videos redesigning the armor evos to match what we see in the show
@SaberKittyZero
@SaberKittyZero 7 ай бұрын
On top topic of her strength. My idea/headcannon is that digimon, at least in the earlier days, kinda was like the video game. In tems of power level and the such. She was a champion but she didn't have the stats other champions had. We saw other champions struggle having to team up with the whole party sometimes to beat another champion so it would make sense that there is at least some that are in champion stage that are weaker and some that are stronger, which is shown as well through various battles as the series continues. Some digimon needed multiple of the digidestened to beat while others were just a joke of a power level.
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 5 жыл бұрын
During my initial viewing of Adventure and 02 I never realized the thing even was a Champion, I must have stepped away to get some chips when Salamon (I think that's the rookie) was on screen (if it even appeared, I can't remember), which made me very confused come the DNA Digivolution, as most of the time it would be in Angewoman mode, then revert, then fuse. Also why could Gatomon go to ultimate in 02 anyway, the crests were sacrificed. Man it's a mess. With that said though, Angewoman vs. Lady Devimon will forever be hilarious. It is a catfight on multiple levels.
@scarletrose8766
@scarletrose8766 5 жыл бұрын
it was never the crest thou they retained the required thing to compensate the lack of crest by that logic your saying that agumon and gabumon cant go mega cause they had to use the crest still or very least cant go ultimate but they can ...... when the crest got destroyed they got back and retained the power of the crest as it is thier strongest trait regardless if they had the crest or not
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 5 жыл бұрын
@@scarletrose8766 It's been quite quite a while since I watched 02, but I distinctly remember somebody making a point that they sacrificed the crests, and as a result they couldn't digivolve past they point where they needed the crests in the first place. Granted that reasoning is pretty stupid and contrived, and a clear way to stress the importance of the new people and digimon, but nonetheless, it was predominately true in execution. When MagnaAngemon showed up, he used an alternative energy source, and the only other higher level digivolution was WarGreymon, which happened for a fight with BlackWarGreymon. Now I really don't remember if they even TRIED to justify that one naratively or if jumping to mega circumnavigates the crest requisite, (The animations do have them start as Agumon and Gabumon, though again, justification weak) but if you asked me that sounds precisely like a "rule of cool" > self imposed narrative restrictions for the writers, its a mirror fight after all. I could be forgetting something, but I legit can't remember anybody of the original cast besides those two I just listed and Gatmon digivolving past champion (outside of movies and of course Tri). I'd be willing to accept "The power was inside you all along... if they made a point of that." The crest restriction was quite lame and even withholding the highest level digivolution for 75% of the original cast was not cool, so it's easy to see why they would ditch such things for any new stuff like Tri. I just don't think they ever actually addressed that in 02. Oh also, I've only watched the dub, so if something is better explained in the original Japanese, well there you go, I don't feel like reading a television program.
@scarletrose8766
@scarletrose8766 5 жыл бұрын
at the end of season 1 they already lost the crest since apocalymon destroyed the crest already so they can still evo beyond perfect level as we see in digimon movies you would still see omegamon/omnimon powering up imperialdramon the crest acted as medium but they already posses the trait having that traits ie. courage etc. they can still digivolve without the use of the crest .... the crest were long gone by 02 season
@scarletrose8766
@scarletrose8766 5 жыл бұрын
angewomon is a good example of 02 she can still go angewomon the thing is that they cant evolve was the dark tower hindering thier advancement we see Angewomon when kari dissapeared into the dark ocean
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 5 жыл бұрын
@@scarletrose8766 In a scenario where T.K. could only get as high as Angemon, Kari reached Angewoman, and that was when they weren't around the towers. Angewoman is NOT a good example because she's the only one to do it, making it an exception, not the rule. They honestly treat Gatomon like a rookie when convenient, and a champion when DNA digvolving.
@vincent4883
@vincent4883 5 жыл бұрын
Digimon timeline 😀 great video.
@andresmarrero8666
@andresmarrero8666 5 жыл бұрын
It could be also because Gatomon is kinda child like a rookie in appearance. When a digimon armor digivolves it appears that they age up to fit the armor. Really interesting.
@rushalias8511
@rushalias8511 5 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, gatomon while never actually going head to head with another champion level, she basically was able to challenge other champions, in that episode before she joined the digi destined, she had to stall the them and while she had help, it was the entire digidestine team minus angewomon versus gatoman and two devidramon
@CD-Gaming
@CD-Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
About the whole "above Rookies being able to Armour Digivolve", isn't that how you get AllForceVeedramon? A little theory I have, though, is that the partners that were chosen were so because they were special in some way, like Gatomon's hidden potential! I mean, jus looking at the Adventure teams: Agumon - seems to be descended from Ancientgreymon; Gabumon - seems to be descended from Ancientgarurumon; Gomamon - looks like he's descended from the Legendary Warrior of Ice (forget his name...); Patamon and Salamon - both Angels and have the potential to Armour Digivolve; Piyomon - becomes a legendary bird; Tentomon - becomes, like, one of the strongest bugs around; Veemon, Armadimon and Hawkmon - all possess legendary abilities, i.e. Armour Digivolution; Can't speak for Palmon, however...
@KitsuneTriforce
@KitsuneTriforce 5 жыл бұрын
I got fully into Digimon around the beginning of the Myotismon arc (which I think is the best arc of the first season) and when I first saw Gatomon I thought she was a Rookie. So when she Digivolved to Angewomon I was like, "What? Wait, Gatomon is a Rookie, how in the world did she Digivolve straight to an Ultimate from the Rookie stage?" And there really weren't many fan Digimon websites around back then, so it wasn't until I got my hands on a Gatomon card from the TCG that I finally realized she was a Champion Digimon and not a Rookie. And now of course there are Digimon wikis all over the place, so if that had happened NOW I would have known right off the bat what Gatomon's evolutionary level was.
@ionixknight
@ionixknight 10 ай бұрын
I believe that gatomon/tailmon is in between rookie and champion levels because with their holy ring gives them more power but without it they would be rookie level and when we’re talking about the episode where you talked about gatomon’s evolution line there isn’t a in training level form
@mikemiller8430
@mikemiller8430 5 жыл бұрын
People tend to forget that Gatomon reached the champion level naturally so reverting back after evolving into angewomon would naturally happen that way. And it's only times when she is completely drained that she goes back to salamon. As for her armor evolution, the ring explains a lot. But unlike the people questioning why Gatomon armored up, I was always wondering why the others didn't use the eggs on their champion level Digimon.
@MarcusRalphson
@MarcusRalphson 5 жыл бұрын
because in armor, you cant go further, and its better not to go into armor when you could go into ultimate if you need to, so with drak towers gone, armor lost its use. if youre fighting in armor and a ultimate or mega shows up, youre kinda screwed lol
@mikemiller8430
@mikemiller8430 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarcusRalphson can someone show me where it says that xveemon wouldn't have his own armor evolution. The fact of the matter is that we don't know every rule about the ancient digivolution method. Because we know Digimon back then still reached mega levels. The second season was so bass akward because of the messed up lore . Don't get me wrong I love a lot of the evolutions (shakkoumon not withstanding,swing and miss) but the story didn't flow.
@andresmarrero8666
@andresmarrero8666 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikemiller8430 armor digivolution was so under utilized and under explored. Why didn't they upgrade the armor? Refine it? Why didn't they combine the concepts of DNA digivolution and armor digivolution by using two or more digi eggs or at the very least swapped them amongst each other once they become capable of using them? So much potential not realized.
@mikemiller8430
@mikemiller8430 5 жыл бұрын
@@andresmarrero8666 agreed. And a ton of the evolutions they created for them were ridiculous. Or what about using them on the original digidestined for a small arc.
@andresmarrero8666
@andresmarrero8666 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikemiller8430 the regular digivolutions and armor digivolutions didn't seem to ridiculous. The only odd one being between akylomon and Angemon, but that one was more conceptual than the others.
@chabri2000
@chabri2000 3 жыл бұрын
That gatomon was in a savage state (not human child with her)for more of her life, and she digivolved by herself, making champion her default form. In 02, the control towers were supposed to stop evolution, but savage digimon that were already champion as their default form, were not affected, the same applied to gatomon. Meanwhile, digimon that required their human kid to evolve could not evolve or would rever back to rookie form when near a tower (happened to angemon) The showrunners had to artifically lower gatomon's power, or else she would not need an armor evolution, so they make up that losing the holy ring make her weaker.
@deonlatchman3283
@deonlatchman3283 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SyniStar616
@SyniStar616 2 жыл бұрын
Was she always(from debut onward) considered a Champion level, or was that somehow retconned at some point after her debut and has been accepted franchise wide as canon? If she was considered Champion level in her debut, is it possible that she was considered Rookie level in some stage or another of preproduction?
@Mochuelo09
@Mochuelo09 3 жыл бұрын
The explanation is easy, a champion can also use a digimental. XV-mon can evolve into Fladramon with the digimental of courage, only this Fladramon would have the power of a perfect. Not to mention It can also do it without the digimental and straight up be classified as perfect instead of armor. For example in the new vital bracelet V-mon can evolve into Fladramon and after that into Sagittarimon (V-mon and the digimental of Hope) without a digimental. In this case Fladramon is champion and Sagittarimon is perfect. Plus, given that Tailmon can also be rookie you could just have Tailmon -> Nefertimon -> Angewomon -> Holydramon/Ophanimon and it's fine, as well as Patamon -> Pegasmon -> HolyAngemon -> Goddramon/Seraphimon.
@archy8822
@archy8822 5 жыл бұрын
the digimon devs/creators were always neglectful with gatomon. i mean just look at digimon tri. we thought we were going to finally get ophanimon, but no, we got pink dragon again. i know tri was fan service mainly for japan ( that loves magnadramon) and that magnadramon is technically gatomon's true mega, at less according to the order of evolution (if your champion lv is a beast type your mega will be a beast type too and if your champion lv is a human type digimon then your mega will be a human type digimon too), but u cant just have gatomon evolve into ophanimon falldown mode and then not have her evolve in to ophanimon. i'm pretty sure fans in the west prefer ophanimon over magnadramon (i know i do). also, i read somewhere that the helmet angemon and angewomon have on their heads is also a symbol of their divinity. i think it was u that said that it allows them to speak to god. maybe the helmet is a substitute for the holy ring in this case, because of the design engraved on them. and also not all angel digimon have a holy rings as u saw with angemon.
@valkyrasonara1797
@valkyrasonara1797 5 жыл бұрын
What about the holy ring from Salamon. If Gatomon (from seasmon two) digivolve back to Salamon, did she get his ring autmatly back, or has Salamon than no ring on his neck?
@ehrinehrin6441
@ehrinehrin6441 5 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you
@amandacarelli1015
@amandacarelli1015 2 жыл бұрын
I know I am really late to the party but I had always assumed that since Tailmon digivolved from Plotmon on her own without the help of Hikari or the digivice that this was the reason she didnt turn into Plotmon after digivolving to Angewomon (except in for the first time she turned into Angewomon after defeating Myotismon)
@joshuabogart3976
@joshuabogart3976 4 жыл бұрын
In season one the established the reason gatomon stays gatomon is because she hatched early and traveled the digiworld and ended up with myotismon so it gained power and digivolved naturally from it's travels and time with myotismon. This answers why gatomon stays gatomon but I do agree the armor evolution is strange.
@miteihiro3283
@miteihiro3283 5 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing about Gatomon staying Gatomon all the time; Digimon have preferred forms they like to be in consistently. Usually for power conservation. Gatomon may be a Digimon with a higher amount of stamina, thus she isn't bothered with retaining her champion form as a base form, not to mention she is MUCH stronger than the others. She was able to take on multiple champions at once without any difficulty. And as Angewomon, she pretty much beat Myotismon single-handedly when he was tossing around 6 other ultimates, plus Angemon. As for her Armor Digivolving, I don't think level matters when you do that. Armor digivolution is its own thing. When Armor Digivolving your strength does go up. But you aren't considered a champion, you'd be in an Armored State. Terriermon for example can Armor Digivolve to Rapidmon. But isn't considered an ultimate, he's considered to be an Armor Digimon. I could be wrong though. This is purely speculation, but it is my take on all of this.
@shadowhell8378
@shadowhell8378 5 жыл бұрын
The way I think about it in order to make it make sense to me. A long time ago the digital world was much harsher then was today and digivolving using the armour eggs was the easiest way for weaker Digimon to survive however some did you fold the normal way and at a certain point decided to help the weaker species by bestowing their power to them and changing them on a fundamental level so the original angel Digimon that we do not know about yet gave it's power to several other species and that created the new angel Digimon do we know of that's why padawan who looks more like a beast evolves into a human angel same with gatomon. If you look at the gatomon evolution line and replace angewomon with Nefertimon and the Mega being Magnadramon this line makes a lot more sense. So it's also possible that the digieggs don't cause a different evolution to occur but instead aids in the natural evolution with some slight difference is based on the additional power coming from the egg looking at Veemon four of its Armored evolutions resemble it's normal evolution of exveemon with slight changes courage give me a armour and Firepower friendship giving it a more bestial form and thunder powers miracles give it Golden armour and holy powers and hope giving it amor centaur appearance but all still have a strong resemblance to exveemon. This could also explain certain branch evolutions but have a drastic difference in their appearance from one of the other that can't really be explained through environmental differences we know that the 10 legendary Warriors gave their power to certain species as well as to the 10 human and Beast spirits so it's not outside the realm of possibility that others did the same.
@criixt
@criixt 5 жыл бұрын
From what i understand of gatomon. Gatomon was the 8th digidestines digimon, but was never united with its partner until latter half of S01. I kind of see it as salamon grew into gatomon instead of digivolving to gatomon, and plus the holy ring dampening its power. then in S02 we see that the digmon emperor codes the dark spires to prohibit digievolutiuon to some sort of degree. so with gatomon being "stuck" in its champion form, its ....ah i fuck i forgot my train of thought lol
@corteztabb2643
@corteztabb2643 5 жыл бұрын
If u go back to season 2 gatomon explains why she stays in her champion form it was bc she was able to digivolve without a partner bc he egg got separated from everyone else and she never meet kari
@corteztabb2643
@corteztabb2643 5 жыл бұрын
Season 1 sorry
@Talestale
@Talestale 5 жыл бұрын
in the season 1 anime it tallies straight us up that this partner digimon can stay in its champion because of the training hard ship and some other things put to gather makes gatomon and the other partner digimon stay at the rookie/champion level as long as there's a nuff data in there body then they will stay at the highest level they can there is only one time they will revert is when they just digievolved or when they double warp digievolved
@IamGrimalkin
@IamGrimalkin 3 жыл бұрын
Gatomon always returned to champion because she digivovled there naturally in the fist place, she didn't have to rely on Digivices to get to that state. It's like Leomon returning to a champion after becoming SaberLeomon, rather than becoming whatever his Rookie form is.
@HovektheArtist
@HovektheArtist 4 жыл бұрын
Gatomon stayed as champion because unlike the other digidestined partner digimon she reached the form naturally. Once aguman naturally digivolve into greymon it will stay in that form. After all all the others only reach higher forms due to the power boost of their partners boost through the digivice. It also seems that gatomon becomes gatomon once she gets the ring which probably gave the power to digivolve after being around it for long enough but when it's removed she loses the power boost of the ring. If this is true then the egg can act as a replacement for the ring
@snupietherat6814
@snupietherat6814 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Nostalgia 9to5 growing up I always favored veemon and it's digivolution line. I was a big fan of Paildramon and found the consept of cross digivolution facinating. xros wars ruined it a little for me, but I still watched the first season of it. would you do a video going into specifics of cross digivolution (non-xros wars) and how it works, what makes digimon compatible to cross digivolve?? was this method of digivolution an evolutionary answer to make weaker digimon stronger in a short amount of time?? if it happened in the wild, would they de-digivolve again??
@fakespuehlbecken
@fakespuehlbecken 4 жыл бұрын
But Chuumon can Armor Digivolve too, is he a discendent of the ancients too?
@supersaiyaneevee1573
@supersaiyaneevee1573 3 ай бұрын
I feel like Gatomon should be a rookie. In my headcannon it is lol. I agree with that comment at 8:40. Its line should be Gatomon > Nefertimon > Angewomon > Magnadramon/Ophanimon And in that same vein, i would change up Patamon's evolution line as well. Patamon > Pegasusmon > Angemon (yes as an ultimate) > Goldramon/Seraphimon Maybe even have MagnaAngemon as a mega as well. I know its not "right" but we've seen other digimon that are considered two different levels, like Whamon so yea.... lol.
@GoldenNada
@GoldenNada Жыл бұрын
idk if I'm correct but i think it was the ring on her tail she lost it in season 2 if i remember correctly making her much weaker thus needing to amor digivolve because honestly i felt like the amor forms where weaker than champion but stronger than rookies but really thats what they made it seem like in the show.
@kmc3148
@kmc3148 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the developer had the idea of digivolution before they naturaly digivolved and thats where the digimental come from. A time the devs did an experiment where digimon change but retain physical features from past forms and be classified as champion, have different names and power levels.
@maskedman523
@maskedman523 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why gatomon can stay in her champion form is digimon with partner digimon evolve with a parter is artificial digivolution and can change back when done, when digimon digivolve naturally it is the similar to Pokémon, when they evolve they stay in that form unless they are damaged and dedigivolve to conserve power, andromon for digimon tamers is an example
@fuzzykitty7549
@fuzzykitty7549 3 жыл бұрын
I know that gattamon goes back to her champion form instead of her rookie form after digievolution is do to the fact that gattomon evolved naturally to champion due to age and strength unlike the others. Therefore that is her base form
@Vandalia1998
@Vandalia1998 3 жыл бұрын
So if ExVeemon (Champion/Adult) can reach the same Armor Digimon as Veemon (Rookie/Child) maybe It’s the same for the Rookie Form of Gatomon as well. And it’s the line that matters not the Lv
@thatguy_yy
@thatguy_yy 4 жыл бұрын
So around the end of the video you said you have to disagree with Angemon being ultimate because of the number of wings it has... I then looked at the two armor digimon and they both have only 2 wings while champions have 4. This could possibly place armor lvl digimon between champion and rookie and we could now have a placement for them. This could also mean that gatomon is officially considered under champion level since its armor digivolution can count as an upgrade.
@davom9101
@davom9101 5 жыл бұрын
If you look on the digimon wiki gatomon naturally digivolve whilst waiting for kari as kari didn't arrive with the digidesting. The reason why gatomon can armour digivolve is losing her tail ring reduced her power to that of a rookie
@WarriorD13
@WarriorD13 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was classified as a side slide evolution
@Maxon214
@Maxon214 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I always saw Gatomon as Digimon that reflected the point where the original season was at. At the time Gatomon was introduced Champion level was kind of the normal level of combat at that point. When it was time to fight seriously it was never in their rookie form but their champions ones. Gatomon being a champion made sense for time she introduced as she was champion thus when that was norm for combat and would go to Ulimate when she was revealed as Kari's Digimon. Having her go down to rookie just because she was revealed to be Kari's did not make sense to me. Also thought that while Augmon and Gabumon might be the strongest overall the ones with the most raw power and abilites were Gatomon and Patamon. That the only reason Patamon stayed a rookie while Gatomon stayed a Champion was because she was split from the others originally and had to grow up on her own. Surriving on her own rather then just waiting for when Tai and the other would have arrived. Also the fact that she was used by Myotismon as that cause her go to Champion level. Though also always thought despite being raised around viral digimon the reason she became a Gatomon instead of a Black Gatomon was because she was Kari's Digimon thus her light side was just too strong to overtaken by her surrounding or actions done while working with Myotismon. Then again this all in my opinion apply pretty much to Kari's Gatomon only and that anything that happens to digimon shown in the series itself are unique to those digimon as the expections rather then the norm
@erickpeculiar823
@erickpeculiar823 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video👍
@UncleUlric
@UncleUlric 5 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the reason that all of the digimon return to their rookie forms in the anime is because they used their tamer's energy to achieve their next form. Once the energy is burnt, they return to the form they've achieved without that energy burst. Gatomon lived without a tamer for a long time and naturally became a champion which is why I thought she always turned back into a champion form after burning the borrowed energy. The digimon typically return to their in training form after digivolving above champion but after a few days they naturally return to their rookie forms (champion form in Gatomon's case) which is their naturally achieved form. It would seem, when they use their own energy in combination with a tamer's energy to digivovle they revert to one form below their natural state until they have rested. I could be wrong, but that's what I've thought.
@laughingmask3118
@laughingmask3118 2 жыл бұрын
The Digimon World DS games for Nintendo DS class Armor Forms as Ultimate/Perfect Level Digimon. Idk if that contributes anything
@robiu013
@robiu013 5 жыл бұрын
long comment, i know, but, if we take an exopoetic perspective, the answer seems quite obvious. nefertimon was created for the anime. it's debut was april 2000, it's first other medium appearances happened months later. now we look at the anime; digimon 02 was the second gen anime, they wanted to pass the torch to a new cast, but wanted to keep part of it the same to not lose connection to the original series. being that kari and tk were the youngsters of the original squad it made sense to keep them around. they came up with armor evolution as a new form of selling transformers-like toys to kids, where rearrangements of the toy could create the idea of digivolving to a higher level and that's it. i like lore and consistency in my shows as well, but i think answers can often come down to something completely non-magical like that. gatomon was armor-digivolving mostly, because it was more iconic than it's rookie form and it still stuck around in the main cast --- now, why was gatomon a champion level to begin with? i don't think we can blame it on the anime's convenience again, since it was introduced back in 1998 already as part of the video game Digimon Ver. S. the real reason is - i think - because the game wanted to include new digimon, but didn't want to mess with the original vpet evolution lines, which it directly copied from the devices, so they came up with a dna evolution method, where you could combine digimon to create new champion digimon. combining certain digimon would result in gatomon, who would later digivolve into either angewomon or magnadramon (was level ultimate in the game). salamon was introduced later, as the canon rookie form of gatomon for the anime, if i'm not wrong.
@21demonfox
@21demonfox 5 жыл бұрын
Could a champion digimon side digivol into another champion?
@IDontGiveAF188
@IDontGiveAF188 Жыл бұрын
Always thought it was salamon who armoured digivolved and not gatomon, at least that's how I thought about it
@jeremyetremblay6663
@jeremyetremblay6663 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a mervamon video PLS
@Pinkstars1605
@Pinkstars1605 5 жыл бұрын
a subreddit on the topic of gatomon's digvolution, describes digivolution via digi vice as a temporary metabolism shift, like an adrenaline rush, where as gatomon was without a partner until she met kari and so built up enough natural stamina to stay in her champion form naturally. -here is my where i got my source from.www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/28qt74/requestdigimon_why_is_gatomon_able_to_stay_in/
@vossboss220
@vossboss220 5 жыл бұрын
The rule of who gets to wear holy rings is a bit inconsistent and it bothers me. Patamon is a holy species yet it doesn't get one. Angemon doesn't have one either but gets one as MagnaAngemon... but then loses it once it digivolves. Salamon starts with one and Gatomon has one too, and so does Angewomon, but then neither of its megas have one. Whats the point of it?
@DarthAlphaTheGreat
@DarthAlphaTheGreat 4 ай бұрын
Tailmon crushed Greymon, Kabuterimon and Garurumon while they were attacking Vamdemon’s castle
@pi_xi
@pi_xi 2 жыл бұрын
Salamon has the same armor digivolutions als Gatomon. As already shown for ExVeemon Champion level Digimon may also armor digivolve without de-digivolving to their Rookie level before. It just often makes no sense, because Armor Digimon are usually weaker than Champion ones. But because Gatomon is as weak as a level Rookie digimon without its holy ring, it makes sense to armor digivolve even if it is already at Champion level.
@TheMrasil
@TheMrasil 3 жыл бұрын
while i am glad that i know know how gatomon is able to armor digivolve it dose raise the question about gatomons composition data,, and if thing digmon or otherwise gets ahold of it will they be able to armor digivolve as well,,
@BrickChick
@BrickChick 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if removing an item that is attached to a digimon is the same as removing a fraction of their code and by that logic altering their form
@DragonTimaeus
@DragonTimaeus 5 жыл бұрын
Do they have to be rookies to use the eggs or could any forms use the egg
@hilsp3807
@hilsp3807 4 жыл бұрын
Gatomon defeated 3 champions in her debut. I think it was Kabuterimon, Greymon and Ikkakumon. But after that she became weak af. I believe Gatomon's strengths really depends on Kari. Their crest is light so she won't really do anything if Kari doesn't have the urge to fight or sew the "light".
@nha-a-itk8909
@nha-a-itk8909 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Nostalgia925, can you please make a video for Hackmon's evolution line? I have always been wondering what it was. Thank you very much!
@Kimnilsson92
@Kimnilsson92 5 жыл бұрын
Aactually armor digimon that digivolves from rookie is weaker than a champion in Power the most simple way to describe armor digimon is that the bring them to their max of the current stage so an armor from the show where just a maxed out rookie with Close Power to a Champion but still weaker in Power output while if a champion digimon would armor digivolve it would max out the Power of a champion and be stronger than almost every other champion lvl digimons but would still not have the same Power output as a ultimate digimon and so on with the diffrent stages of digimon. The only exception to this that i can come to Think of would be the Golden digi egg that turns any digimon that have the abillity to armor digivolve into a mega stage digimon
@jeremyetremblay6663
@jeremyetremblay6663 5 жыл бұрын
You still din't talk about the holl beastmon and nefertimon gig pal 🙁
@jacobweatherford4696
@jacobweatherford4696 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody can deny gatomon is cute as heck but I'm a cat lover so I'm biased.
@Primordial_Radiance
@Primordial_Radiance 2 жыл бұрын
Champion is her base form because she reached champion before meeting her human partner. Normally Digimon evolve and stay at that level. They only de-evolve when they have humans temporarily boosting them.
@leonardosephas4757
@leonardosephas4757 5 жыл бұрын
I have 3 things to say. Are you sure the gatomon had never been nefertiemon wearing the ring? Does digimon need to be simple to make a digivolution armor? because an ancestral digimon should by logic be a simpler and less evolved creature. For me both nefertiemon, pegasusmon and even the veemon armors do not seem to be natural digievolution of them, they seem to be unnatural as they basically remain their rookie shape altered by wearing an armor, so these armors imperfect digivolition forced by mixing their codes and armor. Imagining these two points of view we can speculate several things about the evolutions of the digimons, as the gatomon would be an artificial champion similar to an armor digievolution because she simply looks like a rookie who found the claws of a mega and a ring of an angel who abandoned it and that she dressed to fortify himself so much that she turned to a champion, following the idea that it was very difficult to digivolve in the past which made many digimon seek countless alternative ways to move to the next level. For example you can think of metalgraymon seems to be a simple graymon who for someone turned him into a cyborg in a factory, so much when he turns wargraymon he seems to lose his cyborg form maybe because he managed to merge perfectly with the two data becoming a mechanical knight, which also explains why he could no longer turn over ancientgraymon since he would have to digivolve into another ultimate form without these modifications. Following this idea we can imagine that the same happens with the gabumon merges with the data of his clothes becoming the garurumon and the gatomon with his ring becoming an angel. Digimon are machines / data they have infinite potentials to modify in several ways even if you do not make them go to a next level like the angemon to devimon or mamemon to metalmamemon as it is shown in the digimon word 1 of ps1 that is modified in factory but does not become a mega digimon. these are my theories about this.
@TrueInvisible
@TrueInvisible 3 жыл бұрын
how come gatomon is a "champion/adult" level and it remains the same?! all the other digimons upon the end of the battle devolve back yo their previous level before champion, gatomon devolved from super evolution back to champion? AND STAYS in champion?? we already know that digimons return because the smaller size makes it easier to reserve energy, is this the reason why gatomon stays in champion mode? because it is already small as is for energy reservation?
@nadimwallani1713
@nadimwallani1713 2 жыл бұрын
It's because gatomon is a celestial/angel digimon who has more battle experience then the other 7 chosen Digimon from working for myotismon that's why her default is champion LVLbut because she lost her holy ring it weakens her power and she can armor digi evolve to compensate for the loss of her divine power
@a.gus_start810
@a.gus_start810 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe gatomon after losing her holyring and becoming rookie power lvl, her path to the holy evolution line(angewomon etc) was blocked and her wild path awake with the help of the digi egg,
@cuddyfox6973
@cuddyfox6973 5 жыл бұрын
Only thing about Gatomon and armor Digivolve is that the rookie form, Salamon also can armor digivolve. My theory is that any of the Digimon in season 2, either rookie or champion form can digivolve into their armor evolution form.
@tyreekpenn861
@tyreekpenn861 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do Lopmon good line digimon the movie have people thinking wendigomon is lopmon natural champion when the turuiemon makes Morse sense please please please do Lopmon
@sparkgold3852
@sparkgold3852 5 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia do you have any theories on Gatomon's strange ability to armor evolve?
@charliegrijalva9129
@charliegrijalva9129 2 жыл бұрын
But Gatomon was able to whoop Greymon in Meiodismons basement.
@tomcurl8034
@tomcurl8034 5 жыл бұрын
acording to geni he used gatomans tail ring to power the digi eggs and since its from gatoman thats why she can armor digivolve
@malicekingofshadows
@malicekingofshadows 5 жыл бұрын
Armor digievalution is weird there's a lot of unexplained things most armor digievalution are champions but Rapidmon (Armor) is at least ultimate at least cyber sluth kinda explains that Mirei had a hand in that actually maybe the digilab is the answer its self as the DigiDestined's egg's are special so Mirei might be the answer to why it happens she does like to experiment and the fact she makes a Mastemon kinda shows powerful she and the digilab are.
@mzyannibby
@mzyannibby 5 жыл бұрын
Salamon had a holy ring around its neck...
@mayhewstorm1473
@mayhewstorm1473 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on it was always that they were slightly better than champions. They’re not “champion” they’re “armor” So like, Xveemon can still be flamdramon, cause it’s him with digi egg armor
@mayhewstorm1473
@mayhewstorm1473 3 жыл бұрын
By that logic nefertimon is gatomon with armor? I guess? Patomon fucks everything up for me. Gatomon is less weird to me than Patomon. Because sure, she’s a champ who looks rook But Patomon looks like a fuckin in training
@couragusmike7941
@couragusmike7941 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the opposite, I believe Gatomon is a rookie digimon with the strenght and intellegence of a champion because of the angelic ring or code on its tale. Think about it, gatomon get weaker and more fearfull when the ring is taken or lost. Fear can lower intellegence when in a state. That's why it can evole to an Armor digimon or have more degivolutions because its sill a rookie just with and advantage with not only the digicode on its tail ot other places when evolve, but also the Saber leomon code as well.
@wizardchickenboy
@wizardchickenboy 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please talk about marine angamon? Btw I turned 13 today!
@bryansuminski7543
@bryansuminski7543 5 жыл бұрын
You're actually really close when you compared Gatomon to the other rookies to a kid and a teenager. In Japan the rookie lvl is called child while the champion is called adult, with the others being in-training/baby, ultimate/perfect, and mega/ultimate (which makes sense to the name super ultimate as the lvl beyond ultimate).
@snowboundwhale6860
@snowboundwhale6860 Жыл бұрын
If the hacking software idea were true it'd also explain how Gatomon gets access to the SaberLeomon data for the claw gloves
@jdcloudff7
@jdcloudff7 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think armor digivolving is only for ancient species of Digimon. Anyone remember Terriermon armor digivolving in to Rapidmon (gold)?
@Knurrbauch1
@Knurrbauch1 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Gatomon beating all the Champion Lvl Digimons from the Digidestned in the first season? That would mean she was clearly even stronger than a base Champion at one point in the Story.
@axlr8deathpls294
@axlr8deathpls294 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I do know that the armor forms are equivalent to the ultimate forms
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