Explosive Weapons Analysis R-36 Eruptor; CB-9 Exploding Crossbow + More

Explosive Weapons Analysis R-36 Eruptor; CB-9 Exploding Crossbow + More | Helldivers 2 Weapons Guide

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In this video I run tests and analyse the data regarding: The R-36 Eruptor; CB-9 Exploding Crossbow; Plas-1 Scorcher; SG-8P Punisher Plasma; Jar-5 Dominator; GP-31 Grenade Pistol; Grenade Launcher; Impact Grenade and Thermite Grenade. I do this against various bug enemies including Chargers and Bile Titans.
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FAQ/Corrections:
Q1) Can you explain your testing methodology please?
A1) I run nearly all tests on Difficulty 7, this in case of hidden scaling, although my tests so far have shown no difference from 3-8 so far. I try and get at minimum 5 clips of the same results to confirm the test. If I come across any outliers I will try and test them and see if I can consistently replicate those results. I discount any tests where I can’t be sure the enemy was at 100% health, or I miss and hit a different part of the enemy. There are many hidden mechanics in the game though, such as the hitting armour at an angle and others. This is why I try and get lots of tests in and will use language like, "inconsistent", “Approx”, or “About” if I don’t have conclusive data.
Q2) Any addition data on “Durability Damage”?
A2) I can see the impact of it in multiple tests but it’s very hard to pinpoint exactly how it works, especially as often it works on sections that are them impacted by the -90% damage from non-explosive weapons. Data mining has also found titles such as: “Damage Multiplier Damage” “Projectile Durable Resistance” “Armor Angle Check”, which are all a bit elusive and could impact tests in ways I don’t understand currently.
The AR-23 Nursing Spewer tests are very interesting. Using the best data mining info I have, both guns only have a 5hp variance when killing the target, 877.5 - 882. The explosive weapons other than the Eruptor and Impact Grenade which seem to behave strangely, also get near that 880 value. Punisher Plasma 750 to kill, Scorcher 1000, I’m slowly understanding it more.
Q3) How did you come up with the health numbers for the bugs?
A4) This is guesswork and why I put approximate numbers in. The issue is that I am guessing that it can all be impacted by the details in the above question. For most I took the lowest two values, often the AR-23P and AR-23 base version. Both of these weapons deal fairly low damage with less overkill. I have a good idea of the Durability Damage on both also. The Nursing and Bile Spewer side health shown was taken by including the 90% reduction, adding the Durability Damage at 100% for the total. The 812 - 900 is right in the range of the Scorcher also.
Q4) I would love a spreadsheet with all this data!
A4) As I’m running tests, I am populating a spreadsheet with all this data. I also hope to work with some people in my Discord server to flesh out a lot more data. I will hopefully have a shareable spreadsheet soon!
Q5) Why do you put the word “Three” on the screen in text at various points?
A5) It has been made aware to me, ((often in a nasty way :’( in the comments)), that I don’t pronounce words with TH very well, instead making the FFF sound. For clarity I have started putting the text on screen to be clear on what I am saying. “You get (three) ammo”, instead of what people hear as, “You get (fffree) ammo”. As a child I had speech ffferapy ;) because I still had not spoken at 4 years of age. This is likely the reason I have not developed a very good TH in my pronunciation. P.S. My Mum sometimes wishes I never learned to speak as I now don’t shut up :)
0:00 Intro
0:11 Weapon Info + Hive Guard
3:42 Brood Commander
5:51 Stalkers
7:38 Nursing Spewer
10:39 Bile Spewer
12:48 Chargers
16:57 Bile Titan

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@GamingExistence 2 ай бұрын

The description has links to my written reference guide for this video. It also has a FAQ and corrections section. Feel free to drop a comment and I may well add it to that section. Thank you for watching and I will see you next time!

@dragonlord4898 2 ай бұрын

You sound like a crypto scammer whose perpetually out of breath. Still a good video, not even a slight against you. Just a random thought I had while watching.

@MetaGuideMedia 2 ай бұрын

More interested in test on the bots. Bugs are boring. But I do appreciate your effort on these videos and test. 😎

@Brownkid422 2 ай бұрын

I couldn't get the eruptor to break fabricators. Didn't see it in the video either. Is that a skill issue on my part? It's awesome for bugs as long as you run stun grenades.

@MetaGuideMedia 2 ай бұрын

@@Brownkid422 got to be almost straight on with it and hit the bend in the air vent.

@Brownkid422 2 ай бұрын

@@MetaGuideMedia i can do it with the autocannon like that but couldn't hit it with the eruptor. Ill take your word for it because eruptor on automatons was not my favorite loadout lol

@Eternal_Tinsel 2 ай бұрын

Although your older DRG breakdowns are great, your Helldivers breakdowns have been unparalleled. IMMACULATE visualizations, and valuable information on how certain systems work (especially appreciated your first breakdown on how armor pen/durability dmg affect “true” dmg). Looking forward to further content, great work!

@infinitebeastgames1010 2 ай бұрын

Very true, the highlight overlays are professional as fuck

@royalmaskie4014 2 ай бұрын

the erupter fires shrapnal in a sort of dome shape from the round when it hits, that will be why shooting the floor sometimes kills stuff in 1 shot. and why that 1 shot to the but of the titan works when you fire at the leg. super good info and really love the way its show!

@ck-ks9dt 2 ай бұрын

Yeah the damage number on the weapon is a bit misleading. R-36 direct hit + all shrapnel dmg (in practice direct hit dmg usually) seems way above 380

@Tatominator 2 ай бұрын

200 explosive plus 380 straight@@ck-ks9dt

@lesscommonsense1804 2 ай бұрын

So it is a dome and not a sphere? Very good to know and makes a lot of sense now.

@BunToomo 2 ай бұрын

The erruptor is SO GOOD against bugs precisely because of the ground-shot splash kill capabilities. It is SOOOOO GOOOD. One other thing that I've found: If you shoot the erruptor at the ground at a very sharp angle, the round will bounce off the ground before hitting the underbelly of some bugs, giving you an incredibly useful tool when some of the weakspots arent visible.

@tarjeiaksnes5418 2 ай бұрын

This made me reevaluate the role of the dominator in your arsenal. I have been using it like the breaker, in which case it is just a worse version, but I see now how it can add to your potential damage if paired with good swarm clear strategems. God tier vid bro

@lesscommonsense1804 2 ай бұрын

Pairing it with a rover and the redeemer pistol is so good against the bugs.

@wisprs_gaming 2 ай бұрын

Love your videos ❤ Writing down notes on your editing style, really enjoy it

@carto4028 2 ай бұрын

Your vids are the most accurate info we have on individual damage on areas of enemys. I hope you take a crack at analyzing the weak points and armor value of bot parts one day as thats what i really need right now.

@Hermes4ndMind 2 ай бұрын

What an amazingly well produced video!! This is a marketable skill you know. The time and care you spent on this video? It shows man, it really shows. Thank you.

@darksaiyan2006 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate all the work you put into these breakdowns, keep it up!

@ST-nv5cs 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for all this testing and amazing visuals! Great info!

@gopnikprince8000 2 ай бұрын

Havent even watched yet and this is some crazy editing, kudos!

@dreambane7906 2 ай бұрын

Good stuff! Thanks for the evaluation!

@mongrelshadow14 2 ай бұрын

Love the formatting of these kinds of videos, I feel like they are the best when it comes to break downs of anything for this game compared to any other channel that does the same. Please keep making more content like this. To close this comment as someone who uses pretty much all of these weapons exclusively I will write a small use case I do for each equipment piece. I do play 7-9 difficulty with duo and up squad: Eruptor: My swiss army knife specifically used only against bots. Bots give you the space to do whatever you're going to do with the weapon and thus you do not run the risk of hurting yourself or allies. Anything I'd want it for against Bugs the Autocannon can do and without risk to myself or others. I almost always splash the ground because the damage feels backloaded onto the shrapnel post round explosion. Crossbow: If you're looking for a mobbing explosive weapon this is for you. Personally I don't take it against bots since special enemies are what cause the most problems for you or your squad and not trash. The bow isn't "bad" at TTK for specials but with it's drop it makes trying to hit things at a distance that are suppressing you too difficult. Pretty exclusively use this against Bugs. Plasma Punisher: Sort of the inverse of the crossbow. It "can" mob but it's much better at dealing with special units. I use this more against Bugs than Bots but It works decently with both. Especially if you can consistently splash under chargers while they move or under Hulks. If the Eruptor didn't exist I'd be using this more. Nade pistol: I only ever run this when I want a different grenade besides impacts since it's effectively impact nades with a higher ammo count and you don't have to search for pesky nade boxes on the map. Good for both factions with the downside that your primary needs to carry a lot more responsibility. Scorcher: The comfy pick. I only ever use it against Bots these days because self damage isn't fun and Striders are extra unfun. Basically if you want to swap off your regular primary of choice and don't know what to pick grab this. it's a work horse weapon that does everything except deal with heavy armor. JAR Dominator: For the Warhammer fans like me. I sometimes use it against bots just because you can blow heavy devastators shields aside from it's flinch and do an easy follow up headshot. But I lose the easy face shot kill against Striders. I end up using it in bug missions more because it still has opportunities to provide useful flinch utility but has the damage to actually back that up unlike lib concussion. Also no self damage. Thermite: At the moment I only have 2 uses for it. Heavy Devastators and BT's. It OHK's those devastators like Impacts can but without accidentally blowing yourself up. Also if you are host it kills turret towers in 2 uses and tanks in 3 on the side just like impacts can for towers. Tanks are a bit harder since you need to hit the vent to get 2 hit kills. So it's easier with thermite. But you need host since DoT is a non insignificant part of it's damage to do these things. Against BT's it's a combo tool. If you can stick it's face and it does it's full damage you only need one EAT/RR/Quasar shot instead of the normal 2. But until this thing gets a consistency pass and probably a buff I wouldn't worry yourself with using it.

@eternalfrost3294 2 ай бұрын

Love these breakdowns🙏🏾 Thank you🙌🏾

@hexet7780 2 ай бұрын

This video was very helpful. I enjoyed your presentation style as well!

@TimHelps 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video as usual, nice one. By the way, your pronunciation of "three" is absolutely fine :)

@Fourger14 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic breakdown, mate.

@augurofdoom6989 2 ай бұрын

Those armor break downs for the major bugs are hugely appreciated.

@Erestanfeo 2 ай бұрын

Appreciate the time and effort it takes to create this content. Data is definitely hard to work with when it isn't readily available

@jacknimble8331 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for all this detailed breakdown!

@alexandermich2871 2 ай бұрын

I love what you do! Thank you

@pxds 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for putting up this high quality content

@Xkiller269 2 ай бұрын

great info! Thank you!

@phdbot4483 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see another in-depth analysis on Democratic Detonation's new explosive weapons. Against bugs, I love running the Eruptor and Stalwart together, while grenade pistol with the flamethrower give room for the stun grenades while still being able to blow up nests!

@zacharybrown3010 2 ай бұрын

great work as always

@mattmihalko842 2 ай бұрын

You're amazing. Keep up the good work

@Reoh0z 2 ай бұрын

As you're doing cross comparisons between weapons, I liked that it was spaced out by target rather than weapon.

@doctor_gamer4105 2 ай бұрын

I breathe for you analysis videos, great job

@PJ-he5zk 2 ай бұрын

Great video! I love your V/O work!

@CFHoneyBadger 2 ай бұрын

Amazing work!

@brutalchicken 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for all this valuable bug research!

@The_fusion_physics_guy 2 ай бұрын

Aways fantastic, our resident experimental gamer =)

@libertyprime9891 2 ай бұрын

Best helldivers guides out there mate, great job.

@VaderHater1993 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic video mate

@xmst5 2 ай бұрын

okay this is the best helldivers 2 channel for weapon info and it's not even close

@MrGradara 2 ай бұрын

thanks for your amazing work

@user-xo2iw6lz2n 2 ай бұрын

holy smokes, very well done

@bulbette 2 ай бұрын

Another impressive work, thank you.

@MightyAssa 2 ай бұрын

Super earth become more safe thanks to your excellent work here. Well done, Helldiver o7

@StegDarkhorse 2 ай бұрын

Your work as always is superb.

@leejesm 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your hard work!

@knoxgordon9859 2 ай бұрын

thank you soldier 🫡

@andrewdickerson5146 2 ай бұрын

Great video!

@Honeycreepin 2 ай бұрын

It's always a good morning when I wake up to a new Gaming Existence video ♥

@KingMob4313 2 ай бұрын

Interesting analysis

@howiematey8784 2 ай бұрын

love your work fellow helldiver

@MrDeadb33f 2 ай бұрын

Stellar research

@Caffeen 2 ай бұрын

Algorithmic comment. Great in-depth content as always!

@meksh.2329 2 ай бұрын

Thx for the Video❤

@keinsent 2 ай бұрын

Thx for info❤

@scorpion563 2 ай бұрын

4:10, I believe the eruptor inconsistencies with one shots is related to it's fragment damage and how many are hitting the enemy in question 10:40 Believe that dominator has an above average durability damage stat (something like 33% i think from datamining?) as you mentioned before, but yeah it doesn't do nearly as much as the 100% durability damage from explosives Very nice testing and I appreciate the health estimations 👍

@NathanTruby 2 ай бұрын

Thermite grenades seem to have an arming distance. If you're too close, they'll just bounce off of a target. I found that being 15 or more meters tends to be pretty consistent

@Yawnz2 2 ай бұрын

Great video

@JavamanTales 2 ай бұрын

Great info!

@PunishedCoyote 2 ай бұрын

Very useful video

@MrMacavity 2 ай бұрын

Nice work 👍

@shandrakor4686 2 ай бұрын

Huh, I'll have to test out the eruptor more on chargers. Been taking the Quasar cannon to deal with those and bile titans.

@sharktrap267 2 ай бұрын

The eruptor on chargers is a bandaid. It works, but takes time and efforts when it's not the sole enemy around.

@shandrakor4686 2 ай бұрын

@@sharktrap267 Oh certainly, But just yesterday I was playing matador to 4 of the things solo while waiting for my quasar to recharge. I never bothered to shoot them with anything else assuming it would take more than a clip of the eruptor.

@ozylocz4078 2 ай бұрын

It’s definitely better than pretty much every other primary at dealing with chargers but I personally wouldn’t drop my quasar for it.

@VSG117 2 ай бұрын

Great information

@eezZzee 2 ай бұрын

Incredibly useful information and amazingly interesting video. Thanks.

@dudeiii2069 2 ай бұрын

grenade launcher is one of the most mysterious weapon in the game. I've kill charges with 3 grenades shooting at the back legs and dumped an entire mag into a charger back leg and it's still alive

@Joshobeb 2 ай бұрын

There's a weird mechanic where while a charger is sliding to a stop after missing a charge, the armor on the legs gets either weak or non existent. I've even killed them with maybe 20-30 shots from a Machine Gun (not heavy) after diving to the side and firing into the back of a front leg. Might be what let the launcher do it quickly too.

@kylelantan9220 2 ай бұрын

You should test the scorcher fired just at the ground/lower body when the Bile Spewer rears up. I've noticed a significant reduction in shots needed under those conditions. Also don't know if you know, but if the side of a BT is stripped, a single impact grenade seems to bring them down now, and scorcher rounds will damage them (even from the front) if the armor is blown off.

@Cripto_Dancer 2 ай бұрын

top! max informativity

@tepung_gandum4612 Ай бұрын

NICE

@Tetragramix 2 ай бұрын

Seeing the bug where explosions pull you into them (inverted blast force) in so many youtube videos nowadays is just going to immortalize the absolute incompetency of the developers at Arrohead. I haven't played since the bug was added and will not return until it is fixed.

@gamermike6007 2 ай бұрын

The “fire alarm sound effect” was driving me nuts. Took a while to figure out it’s not irl, it’s the video.

@Tatominator 2 ай бұрын

At 10 18 When you're talking numbers. That would also make sense for the discrepancy between the scorcher and the plasma punisher. Because the damage is split is my guess on the scorcher. So between 5 shots you're getting 500 explosive damage and maybe half damage for the projectile itself. And back.

@russellpierce3987 2 ай бұрын

oh thank fuck someone on youtube showed how to actually use the erupter shrapnel on bugs. i've been getting pretty consistent oneshots on hive guards, commanders, nursers, spewers, and it makes the erupter feel WAY better for actually making every shot count

@TooFewSecrets 2 ай бұрын

I suspect the CEO saying "10%" was just referring to the durability damage system. From the datamined numbers I've seen most normal weapons did about 10% durable damage compared to normal damage. Would not be the first time they've oversimplified to the point of effectively lying (the other time would be saying armor ranges from 1-10 when for all enemies in the game it's 1-5, or might as well be). If this is true it also seems like only the splash radius does 100% damage as durability damage and the projectile does whatever arbitrary amount. Eruptor seems to have fragmentation upwards separate from the normal blast damage mechanics. You can see it on impact. I think this is why the damage is much higher than stated against most targets.

@_Quint_ 2 ай бұрын

Once again, the preeminent content creator for all Helldivers testing is back. That means I stop what I'm doing and watch.

@Fireheart318 2 ай бұрын

An additional Time To Kill stat would be helpful. The Eruptor only fires once every two seconds, which means it can take LONGER than other weapons, especially if you miss

@NathanTruby 2 ай бұрын

So, cool thing about the Eruptor. If you swap weapons while you pull the bolt back, it'll allow you to fire faster if you can switch fast enough (Fire>swap>swap>fire) Remember kids, it's faster to switch to your secondary than reloading!😅

@jager477 2 ай бұрын

With the Eruptor I have experienced one shot butt hits on Chargers... so interesting.

@Esthelion_ 2 ай бұрын

W content.

@arthurqueen5682 2 ай бұрын

hmm, i wonder how arc weapons work, while Blitzer is the only primary can 1 shot (yea at full 5 rays) to break Brood's head >_> and it would skip any charger's weakpoint Hope to see ur vid soon

@action-nerd 2 ай бұрын

Great research, but too many numbers to practically remember. Some comparison tables might help, and also comparing one weapon to another, or two types of bugs etc, simultaneously could help. Rather than a long back to back list. Some key takeaways would help too.

@DeathL0ck 2 ай бұрын

You've done more for democracy than any stuffy politician back on Super Earth

@ecastello 2 ай бұрын

Numbers good.

@rapid_rivers3294 2 ай бұрын

What are you GOD or something😂 You may as well be the HELLDIVERS HQ COMBAT INFORMER before battle🔥 Literally this should be shown to the soldiers on briefing or new helldivers

@scurjj 2 ай бұрын

Quick + to 4:08 !! You can shoot the neck of the brood commander for a satisfying one shot explosion!

@laylaschu 2 ай бұрын

i was super excited for the crossbow when it came out, then i saw its fall off range and its inconsistent accuracy, still flabbergasted the eruptor is way better

@MiseryMeetsReality 2 ай бұрын

Can we like somehow get Arrowheads attention and make this guy like an NPC or something that is canon in the game? Maybe make him or his research show up on the feeds, or even in the hints while deploying from pods. He puts in scientific work for us Helldivers that shows how to efficiently squash bugs and demolish automatons.

@TheDisturbed558 2 ай бұрын

Can you do this with bots as well? This video was amazing.

@ShadwRavn 2 ай бұрын

It s wird how the thermite says it burns at 2000 degrees but in game it s seems to be closer to 20 Hope they buff it

@Iskaral1 2 ай бұрын

You do sterling work

@wollenwolf7528 2 ай бұрын

After they removed eruptor shrapnel it is now clear that all the inconsistencies in breakpoints were due to amount of shrapnel hitting at the same time. I'm sad that they removed it, because after playing it for 2 weeks I was able to one shot any medium unit 9 times out of 10, and now eruptor is just a worse version of the crossbow

@omgabaddon 2 ай бұрын

IMO there's a huge problem with guns. The biggest issue I've come across though is the switch from HD1 to HD2. In the previous game, you can shoot at the center of mass to deal guaranteed damage, that makes guns like the sickle really strong with high skill ceiling as you can snipe everything, or you can hold down the trigger with AP rounds to kill heavy enemies. You can't do this in this game, if there's a charger, hulk, or even one of those automaton bipeds that look like star wars AT-ST, you have to circle around and for the most part that won't be impossible at certain difficulty levels, so it's either explosive gun or stratagem. In short, I think it would be amazing if they added a mechanic to be able to snipe heavy enemies head on with proper aim instead of having to rely on the 2-3 guns that can do something.

@GermanWeaselZA 2 ай бұрын

The crossbow is “expensive” for its actual utility or usage for me at the moment. I have it unlocked, but I don’t use it for bugs or automatons

@EnigmaticDice 2 ай бұрын

If they would only give the plasma punisher more rounds per mag or make it single round load with 16 like the rest of the punisher family it would be my go to

@savagesavant4964 2 ай бұрын

Where did you get the fancy hitbox & damage output values ???? Not bad

@sturmmagnunstein1008 2 ай бұрын

HERE WE COME PRE100K VIEW SQUAD

@josephwille6464 2 ай бұрын

A like and a comment on this video. 😊

@lord_flashheart Ай бұрын

The Dominator is just a much better Slugger

@maryceleste_aghost 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for science. Can you test critical damage on weapons have same damage? Because i want to know beam type have critical bonus higher than projectile weapons or not like hd1.