EXPOSED: Electricians' Dumping New Lights in Skips

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Up to 100,000 office lights are installed every week by electrical contractors, only to be put in skip a few months later. We explore the scandal of Cat A fit-outs…
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00:00 Electrical News Weekly 19th Feb 2024
00:55 Scandal of CAT A fit-outs
02:10 Electricians Without Borders
02:40 eFIXX 30 under 30 Awards
03:19 New current clamp from Chauvin Arnoux
03:40 Fluke Hazardous location clamp meter
04:12 New EV charger from GIV Energy
04:42 CK Tools LSF cable stripper
05:20 Electricians breakfast
06:24 Get involved
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@andysims4906 2 ай бұрын

At one time we used to do some shop fitting . We used to put the old lights in the window and put a free label on them . Almost always they were taken . Often by people who just wanted a fluorescent light for their garage

@Imakeelectronicchaos Ай бұрын

I love flourescent lighting and I also take any flourescent that I find lying around. I hate led

@edc1569 2 ай бұрын

Why not store the CAT A fittings above the ceiling for the next tenancy

@dieseldragon6756 2 ай бұрын

Seems like a good idea in theory, but what might happen if the first tenant is in there for 25 years (Probably not uncommon) and by the time they've vacated the „mothballed“ Cat A installation no longer meets standard and has to be removed anyway? 🤔 Personally, I think a better approach might be for new spaces to have *no* installed fit-out at all (So the first fit is the tenants' own Cat-B) and instead only be fitted with the essentials (Emergency lighting, fire suppression etc) with removeable/reusable battery-driven temporary lighting provided where this is needed for access or evaluation purposes. 💡 Let's face it: Lighting vacant space A with 100 reusable battery luminaires until the tenant has their Cat-B in place, then using the same 100 luminaires to light spaces B, C and D would be a *lot* better in terms of both resource management and caring for the environment. 👍

@andysims4906 2 ай бұрын

Contractors only want to install new and in a few years they would be obsolete anyway

@Weaselspleen75 2 ай бұрын

Fitted out an entire building in london on completion the entire build was striped back and started again- Tax write off for a major banking group. brand new fan coil units and all lights and floor box sockets skipped. About 6 floors of office space close to the bank of england- Seen it many times, Government jobs being the absolute worst waste of tax payers money.

@bigjd2k 2 ай бұрын

Government should only have basic offices anyway. Shouldn’t be allowed to change it. It’s OUR money after all!

@rupertm2542 2 ай бұрын

I’ve seen this several times over the years. I did interiors years ago, you’d do a delap, new floors and ceiling. Then back months later to rip half of it out for the next tenant.

@tonysheerness2427 2 ай бұрын

I worked for IBM in the 80's they leased 105 Wigmore street at the back of Selfridge's it was fully refurbished when they took it they gutted it and rebuilt it to their specifications. Every IBM office was the same.

@contytub 2 ай бұрын

I tought someone caught our ex labourer that mistook new lights with old/empty boxes and threw them brand new unopen into the skip to be crushed by the telehandler

@sergiofernandez3725 2 ай бұрын

What about taking the removed cat A luminaires to local trade colleges to use or train/learn with?

@efixx 2 ай бұрын

Would be like milk 🥛 bottle tops to a Blue Peter appeal.

@PeteMcCrea 2 ай бұрын

@@efixx- there’s a reference many of the KZfaq generation won’t understand….

@sergiofernandez3725 2 ай бұрын

@@PeteMcCrea Absolutely. What about the IEE (Institution of Electrical Engineers)? Lets Ask Geeves?

@AJ-tj7jm 2 ай бұрын

A company I used to work for would do fit outs for local authority offices, they used to spec Thorlux modular fittings across the board. Every time they would alter the layout of an office and a light fitting was not required they would go back to our stores and not scrapped, within months any that were undamaged they would be used in another council building in the county and charged for, there were a lot of light fittings that had been paid for 2 or 3 times 😂

@jamesmoon5632 2 ай бұрын

Worked on a school ripping out older LED fittings to get them to the new grade. Crazy

@deang5622 2 ай бұрын

If it results in a lower electricity bill then it could very well be worth it.

@olivertaylor4779 2 ай бұрын

That's the main problem, the powers are always changing the rules to bring out something usually only a tiny bit better, but everything has to meet the new standard so all the old stuff has to be scrapped, just like mobile phone makers seem to bring out a new one every six months, now imagine being forced to get the new one and scrap the old one which works fine.

@ChrisTheSparky 2 ай бұрын

I've got 13 Ansell bollard lights because of this very reason. Fitted as show pieces for prospective buyers and ripped out once sold. My mate is the project manager and he's always telling me there's lights in a skip 😁

@MatSmithLondon 2 ай бұрын

I was working in an office near Piccadilly today, with massive windows overlooking a sizeable service yard. I watched as multiple large-sized pickup trucks came along and removed first metal studs (about 3 trucks worth) then a good one or two trucks FILLED with large ceiling light fittings. It seemed strange, usually you might see a range of demolished materials, but this stuck in my mind as it was really neatly lined-up studwork, then neatly lined-up light fittings. They looked nearly new to my eyes. Maybe it was not the same thing, but yeh - amazing. No way these things were going to be used elsewhere, even though they were neatly lined-up, they were chucked on from a great height as if they were going to the scrap yard. I had no idea that was a thing.

@RiverMersey 2 ай бұрын

Not news! DEXTRA Lighting's whole business plan were doing this from at least 15 years ago; including making the legal minimum lights, the customer's preferred lights and reclaiming/recycling all those lights!

@themisterh 2 ай бұрын

Never really paid attention for the 2 words but here I go. Definitely UNICORN, I was looking away at the time and I raised my eyebrow thinking that's a funny description. Secondly FLAK JACKET, seemed placed because I started activating listening for the odd word after that 😁

@Umski 2 ай бұрын

Wastage in the industry - sounds like something the public sector would do 🙄

@steve5772 2 ай бұрын

I was working on a new build supermarket in a new build shopping centre (mostly funded by the supermarket). They left the new light fittings in place, but had two fully qualified electricians going round (one on a little MEWP, one pushing it and handing him materials), all day for a WHOLE WEEK changing all the brand new fluro tubes over to a whiter shade of white. 😆 Meanwhile, I was working with my sunglasses on due to the white walls, white ceiling, white shelves, and lightest colour floor they could get giving me headache.

@anotherledfreak8649 2 ай бұрын

WHAT! No black pudding... Next you'll be saying no pineapple on pizzas. 😂

@Senshikaji 2 ай бұрын

I agree, in fact I'm not sure they're 'proper Yorkshire'. A full fry up includes black pudding!

@anotherledfreak8649 2 ай бұрын

@@Senshikaji several bits if I had my way.

@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын

I've only got one thing to say to the very concept of black pudding - 🤮🤮🤮

@mygreatbigfoot1679 2 ай бұрын

Why are those mushroom headed screws in overhead metal tray almost always fitted with the heads pointing downwards and the threads up with the cables? Why?

@bluebellelectrical 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and academic, or unicorn and flak jacket??? Hmm, do I get two guesses this week? And it has to be brown sauce, preferably HP, anything else is simply wrong, weird, and should be illegal. 😂 And as for gravy, gravy??? How can that even be a thing? 🤷‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

@calmeilles 2 ай бұрын

Black pudding is not an "important" part of a full English breakfast is indeed correct. It is an *_Essential_* part.

@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын

No it's not 🤮

@Bradders-ez2nd 2 ай бұрын

What about the replacement of new LED lights after 3 months since installation because they are poorly made? Why are they not doing something to tackle that? Costing contractors money to replace these on warranty?

@MarcusNailor 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn & flak-jacket 👀

@bikerchrisukk 2 ай бұрын

I do wonder if there should be a "50 under 50" kinda thing too...or will that be too many people 🙂

@efixx 2 ай бұрын

50 over 50

@dieseldragon6756 2 ай бұрын

@@efixx Please, and would be greatly appreciated! Some of us were bumped out of the trade before 2010 simply for having protected characteristics 🏳‍🌈 and a lot of that hatred/discrimination is still being held against us to this day, which has the impact of completely excluding us from the trade we're naturally geared toward. Certainly doesn't put TfL in as good a light as they try to present themselves, at any rate... 😣 But aye; If all of the focus is on those who are young enough *not* to have had to endure things like that, what do those of us 40+ have to aim for? 🪦

@professionalineverything 2 ай бұрын

@@dieseldragon6756 Read Leviticus 20:13.

@Bringitohm 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn & flak-jacket 🤔

@G1ZQCArtwork 2 ай бұрын

Words are: Unicorn & Flak-Jacket.

@lucastaylor23 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and flax-jacket

@mark_just_mark 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and Troublemaker

@HeathenGeek 2 ай бұрын

API interface?

@stevejacklin8462 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and Mustard

@Bigbobstar 2 ай бұрын

Flak and unicorn 🤔

@mikeedwards7173 2 ай бұрын

UNICORN & FLAK JACKET (I think)

@deang5622 2 ай бұрын

Technically that is 3 words. And people writing it as a hyphenated word may think it is single word but it is in fact incorrect: it is not hyphenated and therefore it must be counted as two words.

@stephenB-yq9kw 2 ай бұрын

We just flytip our waste

@metahertzuk 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and flack!

@briannutchey444 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and moulded

@rogerbellows2961 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and ketchup

@kevinhenryviii 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and flak-jacket

@eleanorjones7131 2 ай бұрын

Unicorn and flack jacket

@stevelawrence7111 2 ай бұрын

Car charger that uses cheap overnight solar power Whatever next?

@professionalineverything 2 ай бұрын

Can you start a petition to save flourescent lighting, there are many things that can be improved plus you don't need to change the fitting if your tastes change. Also ban quartz metal halide and high pressure sodium lamps. They are the main waste of mercury.

@edc1569 2 ай бұрын

So many trains and stations (tube and rail) a rely on fluorescent tubes for lighting, I wonder what they will do?

@EldaLuna 2 ай бұрын

i wish they would save fluorescent lighting, while i like leds in most areas in my house (for those constant off and on areas) i just do not like the led tube replacements at all, just something weird about them and just don't last, ive bought as many tubes, ballasts, some cfl's as possible. however i am one of those people who likes to collect and use vintage stuff so its just part of my high voltage loving nature where leds sort of just lacks of.

@professionalineverything 2 ай бұрын

@@edc1569 consider high risk environments such as elevator shafts, they have flourescent lighting aswell. I grew up with that humming sound of the magnetic ballast however it's fully died away now, one 5FT fitting is damaged as a result of brittle plastic manufactured by Wickes 2FT T8's were converted to LED and lost their humming, the kitchen 5FT had an electronic ballast upgrade and lost its hum in favour for life, functioning compact 2D fitting got chucked in 2020 and was replaced with an LED that is you know, cheap and finally bedroom A's fitting finally packed up and an ultra cheap LED twin T8 version is in its place, its hard to find tubes and that is where the apocalypse starts, I have a brand new 4ft twin that is still on its original tubes. It's only a year old and it's just a wasted investment now.

@professionalineverything 2 ай бұрын

@@EldaLuna create a petition to save them, they can be improved in terms of phosphours and the amount of mercury is too miniscule to create harm, a technological breakthrough or a petition will save them

@bigjd2k 2 ай бұрын

@@professionalineverythinglook in your local trade counter’s tube recycling bin! Lots of new tubes in there as people switch to led.

@blow0me 2 ай бұрын

And wireless meters, claim 20m range, real world 2m range if lucky. I've a Testo one, and the range is just pathetic, as is response time

@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын

What if you don't have a 'smart' phone to run an 'app' on..? Not all of us are slaves to Apple or Google.

@NIAtoolkit 2 ай бұрын

Clearly you haven’t tried sausage gravy & biscuit

@carlstanton2550 2 ай бұрын

Biscuit?!? I never understood that fascination when I was stateside.spent 3 months there, trying everything from grits to biscuits.hated grits,hated the "biscuits",loved pretty much everything else!