Alert: 1000s Of EV Chargers To Go Dumb

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Government doubles down on street charging despite eFIXX revelations
…the Government doubles down on street charging of electric vehicles despite eFIXX revelations about growing safety concerns…
…a court fines top electrical contractor NG Bailey after a worker is killed on a hospital project in Aberdeen…
… and the hunt is on to find the electrical firm with the punniest name…
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00:00 Electrical News Weekly 15th April 2024
00:37 Govt doubles down on street charging of electric vehicles
02:13 Myenergi warns electricians about potential dumb chargers
02:46 Trade digests implications of home battery guidance
04:02 Last year saw a 1700% increase in battery storage installations
04:46 Court fines contracting firm after worker killed
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@tubesycraigy
@tubesycraigy 29 күн бұрын
The guy who died at the hospital raised a cherry picker whilst looking over the edge of the basket. He trapped himself between a steel beam and the cherry picker. How is this NG baileys fault. Surely as a trained cherry picker operator you should know better?
@edc1569
@edc1569 29 күн бұрын
He did what!?
@bobtahoma
@bobtahoma 28 күн бұрын
Pretty sure the HSE are in a better position to rule on this, as opposed you. The HSE state: A Health and Safety Executive (HSE) investigation found NG Bailey Limited, the lead contractor for the project, had failed to consider overhead obstructions, especially during the transit of MEWPs on site. The assessments in place did not consider these risks despite HSE and industry guidance highlighting them and the available control measures. HSE guidance states it is important that those responsible for selecting, specifying and managing MEWPs on site understand the risks associated with the use of a MEWP so they can advise on the precautions required to eliminate or control those risks.
@neilblack5924
@neilblack5924 28 күн бұрын
I suspect they hadn't done some paperwork eg a risk assesment
@UmbrelllaCorp
@UmbrelllaCorp 28 күн бұрын
Your workers are never going to stop injuring themselves, however if you don't put on paper that they should wear a nappy and get their signatures of approval you are liable when they don't and shit the pram. The paperwork isn't about making any site safe or death free. Its about keeping the blame on the lowest man.
@deshutchy
@deshutchy 28 күн бұрын
You can't stop the determined idiot
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 29 күн бұрын
Councils are the last people to trust with oversight of EV chargers - the planning system should be simplified to encourage commercial organisations to provide charging solutions directly.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Interesting points. 👍
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 27 күн бұрын
Because commercial organizations always have our best interests in mind , like water , railways , care homes , leccy etc .
@chrispenn715
@chrispenn715 27 күн бұрын
@@MyKharli no - because they will compete and innovate to provide new ways to charge.
@YouTube2021FM
@YouTube2021FM 20 күн бұрын
@@chrispenn715 like they innovated with water, rail, care homes…
@mrfoameruk
@mrfoameruk 29 күн бұрын
So I can't sell my old power tools if I upgrade at a boot sale because someone left their tools in the van overnight and they got stolen. Next, we'll be banning selling phones, bicycles and all sorts of commonly stolen items.
@edc1569
@edc1569 29 күн бұрын
You like buying stolen tools then? Bad for you I guess.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
A few bad apples spoil the barrel...
@Monkeh616
@Monkeh616 28 күн бұрын
And soon enough you'll only be able to buy anything from big 'authorised' sellers (ie. Amazon and eBay) - who, of course, collect VAT while simultaneously wriggling out of their responsibilities as retailers and billions of pounds of other taxes they should be obliged to pay, but don't.
@neilblack5924
@neilblack5924 28 күн бұрын
Who is going to police this? the same people that cant or wont investigate the theft in the first place. What about Ebay or FB marketplace and others? Are we going TRY to ban those as well?
@mrfoameruk
@mrfoameruk 28 күн бұрын
@@neilblack5924 Like you say it is stupid. There are no police available to do the essentials (and we live near Croydon) and to think they might be wasting their time at boot sales looking for a 1 in 1000 chance of nabbing someone is a joke. I even saw a video on KZfaq recently when a guy's camera equipment was stolen and was being sold at cash converters. The police told him to buy it from there 1st and then make a complaint. The whole government point of being greener like with the push to EV's, becomes senseless if working tools have to be skipped as you can't sell them on.
@soundspark
@soundspark 29 күн бұрын
Not only use Wi-Fi or Ethernet, but ensure the firmware can be updated to ensure continued support for current security protocols and certificates.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Good point. 👍
@edc1569
@edc1569 29 күн бұрын
You cant software upgrade to newer protocols in many cases
@deang5622
@deang5622 29 күн бұрын
And certificates are not required.
@MatthewGeier
@MatthewGeier 29 күн бұрын
The loss of mobile data is just the opening act. Wait until the vendors behind many 'smart' chargers decide they don't want to support their older products ie too old or 'change of company focus' or acquisition or simple bankruptcy and the 'cloud' server that provides much of the 'smarts' ceases to be available. Entire fleets of 'smart' chargers will go dumb overnight. It's going to be tough on installers when the first big one fails - as the installer probably will be the first one the customer calls when their EV charger stops talking to their phone and the customer isn't going to take it well when the installer says 'nothing I can do'.
@benespection
@benespection 29 күн бұрын
​@@MatthewGeierThis is already happening with MyEnergi. Zappi v2 is already no longer getting features like Zappi v2.1, and they already did this with Zappi v1. Several issues and features promised by Dr. Chris (CTO) never materialise due to priorities. I won't install them anymore unless explicitly requested because it feels to me like they won't support the product for a long term - customers will expect the device to remain fully functional and supported for 10+ years like many other fixed appliances. I want to like them, but I don't trust MyEnergi.
@AmauryJacquot
@AmauryJacquot 29 күн бұрын
the "experts" are paid for by the petroleum industry ?
@bertram-raven
@bertram-raven 25 күн бұрын
Ex = A has been. Spurt = A drip under pressure.
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 29 күн бұрын
Great news weekly Joe as always. 👍
@OCD_Sparkies
@OCD_Sparkies 26 күн бұрын
Banning the sale of tools at car boot sales is stupid, people can legitimately sell second hand tools! Far more emphasis should be placed on getting the police to actually do their jobs and investigate tool thefts properly in the first place, how about the police actually question and investigate the people at car boots who are selling a suspicious amount of tools…?
@effervescence5664
@effervescence5664 29 күн бұрын
The battery changes though somewhat sensible from a fire standpoint in attics (ie a fire due to something other than the battery). The outdoor requirement of not within 1m of ventilation, windows, doors etc is practically untenable as many are vents are every 1.2 meters. Short of having an outbuilding especially for the batteries this prevents installation in most terraced homes with ventilated floor voids and even semi detached.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
There's definitely some challenges associated with it. 😬
@edc1569
@edc1569 29 күн бұрын
Are you referring to the airbrick type vents? If they are underneath the system I imagine that’s ok?
@retrozmachine1189
@retrozmachine1189 28 күн бұрын
It's a curly one but one that needs to be worked out. Lithium batteries are nasty if they are burnt and you don't want to breathe in the results. Particular types of sodium ion batteries fall into the same bundle so even if you hop on the sodium bandwagon it's not a guarantee of a solution. Buyer beware.
@Flipflop324
@Flipflop324 29 күн бұрын
I am not sure that I could comply with the new standards in my 2 bed terraced house. I have a 10kWh system mounted directly to the gable wall in the loft, no floor load so no risk of premature collapse. I am not sure I have a location outside that is more that 1m from a window.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
It is a tricky situation. 😬
@bcbikerace
@bcbikerace 28 күн бұрын
My favourite small business name has always been PC Galore. A computer and electronics shop that’s been in Vancouver for about 30 years.
@stranglx
@stranglx 29 күн бұрын
Were Myenergi completely transparent with their customers regarding the Zappi chargers built in RCD not being compliant with BS7671?
@jpelectrical7677
@jpelectrical7677 29 күн бұрын
no they swiftly buried it and deleted the data sheets
@stranglx
@stranglx 29 күн бұрын
@@jpelectrical7677 I suppose you have any evidence at all? I happen to be building a case.
@benespection
@benespection 29 күн бұрын
Nope. They don't show signs of good faith in many other areas too, like long term product support. I don't trust them as a company.
@seanthespark
@seanthespark 29 күн бұрын
Cactus and passionfruit, great news as always OG Joe 👏
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Thanks Sean, make sure you're listening next week to see if you're right! 😁
@paulhoskin3286
@paulhoskin3286 29 күн бұрын
Shocking news
@FatherMartin
@FatherMartin 29 күн бұрын
I remember many years ago, seeing a shop in Lincolnshire for an electrical contractor called "AC Burns". At least it's not RF, I thought. Should a passion fruit be grown close to a cactus? 😉
@chargehanger
@chargehanger 29 күн бұрын
For "Across the pavement" cable management, I recommend adding a Chargehanger
@mrfoameruk
@mrfoameruk 28 күн бұрын
I never thought about something like this. The cables across pavements remedy has always been a non-starter due to health and safety issues it would cause. But most of this relies on you being able to park outside your house in the 1st place.
@justastulpe3265
@justastulpe3265 28 күн бұрын
it was money rag from the start! Zappi EV charger costs 500 but installers ask for 1200, which means 700 for 30 - 60 min installation job 😆😆
@kennyrodg
@kennyrodg 28 күн бұрын
A tad confused if anyone can clarify.... Are they saying amphenol connectors and NH fuseholders are OK..... or not ? I have both. Thanks.
@IAAITKEN
@IAAITKEN 23 күн бұрын
Cactus 🌵 has to be one. Passionfruit (50/50 on it)
@MarcusNailor
@MarcusNailor 28 күн бұрын
🌵👏👏👏😂 This is a hard week but I'm pretty sure it's Cactus & Punning 🤞 I'm pretty sure passion fruit is two words... 😜
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
Great guesses Marcus, you were so close to winning last week!
@stevejones9062
@stevejones9062 28 күн бұрын
The ownership and possession of power tools is not an offense so to ban sales wherever it may be is only hurting the innocent when it is the tradies etc who fail to clearly mark their tools or record serial numbers. A better solution would be a range of tradie only tools in a colour that is instantly recognised as trade only.
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 25 күн бұрын
So are councils going to turn areas outside a house into reserved parking zones? Not much point cutting slots in the pavement if other cars are parked there. I live in France and the funniest company name I found was SodIFart.
@revbobuk
@revbobuk 29 күн бұрын
So my battery installation was located in the loft space prior to this new guidance. What implications does this have for insurance, and for future electrical tests? Am I stuck now with a non-compliant system? Is it worth moving the batteries, and how practical is that? What do you think? (10kWh huawei setup)
@deang5622
@deang5622 29 күн бұрын
Talk to your insurance company. An interesting question. Insurance companies normally calculate their premiums based on the level of risk involved. And the level of risk remains unchanged by the publication of the guidance. So theoretically there shouldn't be any change in the premium, unless the insurance company did not calculate the level of risk correctly involved into policies taken out before the guidance was issued.
@deang5622
@deang5622 29 күн бұрын
And compliance is not the correct word here. Compliance is about conforming to a legal obligation. The document at the moment is a standard and is not legally mandated. So you can say your system doesn't conform to the guidance or standard but it is incorrect to say it is not compliant to the guidance. We have got to be careful, we don't everyone saying they are not compliant when of course no one is compliant because it is not possible to be compliant to a standard or guideline.
@deang5622
@deang5622 29 күн бұрын
Are you stuck with a non compliant system? Your system is not non-compliant. Are you stuck with it? Depends on what you really mean by that. You are not legally obliged to change your system. It is up to you whether you do so. It is down to you to assess the level of risk involved and decide if you want to reduce that risk. No one is forcing you. There are measures you can take to lower the risk without moving the batteries out of the loft. Then the question is, do those measures reduce the risk down to an acceptable level? A question for you might be, if you come to sell your house and the batteries are in the loft. Does that makes your property unsellable? Will you have to lower the selling price of the house to prevent prospective buyers turning away?
@johnkeepin7527
@johnkeepin7527 28 күн бұрын
@@deang5622 The document under consideration is not a Standard yet. In PAS 63100:2024, it actually says in it’s foreword that: “This PAS is not to be regarded as a British Standard. It will be withdrawn in the event it is superseded by a British Standard. ” It is a draft specification, and it then goes on to say: “The PAS process enables a specification to be rapidly developed in order to fulfil an immediate need in industry. A PAS can be considered for further development as a British Standard, or constitute part of the UK input into the development of a European or International Standard. ”
@shaunhw
@shaunhw 28 күн бұрын
Batteries - Ban only applies to houses 200 square meters or under? That's nearly all of them then including my own, with batteries already installed up in my loft. ☹️
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
It's not really a ban, it's safety guidance.
@shaunhw
@shaunhw 28 күн бұрын
@@efixx The words used are "must not" which in government speak is a prohibition. Its a pity they didn't decide this LONG before now. My batteries (and solar panels) were installed by a reputable MCS company two years ago. Now at 67 years old this has given me something more to worry about as I get ever older. What happens if they ever need to be replaced for some reason? The inverter is also up there, but screwed to the partition brick wall.
@retrozmachine1189
@retrozmachine1189 28 күн бұрын
@@shaunhw Replacement is a particular activity. Although it may not prove to be the case for this once all the details come out, you may find that you are allowed to replace a failed battery with a similarly spec'd one installed into the same location, ie grandfathered in one the prior standard.
@dennis8196
@dennis8196 23 күн бұрын
So, the people who run boot sales will be responsible for the items being sold? Its an unreasonable thing to expect, killing off boot sales. No one will risk running a boot sale event because you can't monitor the contents of every sellers boot. This would completely close our century old club because we couldn't take the risk of one person selling a stolen item, even though the only thing that keeps our club going is the money raised from an annual boot sale. There are laws that make organisers responsible now, if known to be complicit in the thefts, but extending the laws like this would destroy almost all boot sales.
@neil_bird
@neil_bird 28 күн бұрын
‘Doubling down’ and ‘passion fruit’ 😂👍🏻 if it’s 🌵 I’ll be so annoyed 😂
@bertram-raven
@bertram-raven 25 күн бұрын
I am going for flybrid. 2 tonnes of spinning metal is much less of a fire risk than any battery.
@xlerb_again_to_music7908
@xlerb_again_to_music7908 29 күн бұрын
Phase to sneak in? "Doubling down".
@sergiofernandez3725
@sergiofernandez3725 29 күн бұрын
NG Bailey......Years ago and I mean years ago they were known in the industry as No Good Bailey.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
It's not good is it?
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 29 күн бұрын
Cactus and punning are the two words
@BMOzzie
@BMOzzie 29 күн бұрын
Cactus & passionfriut ?!
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Great guesses, listen to next week show to see if you're right! 💪
@smc812
@smc812 29 күн бұрын
There's a trend of smart chargers becoming dumb. My EO Mini Pro is no longer smart as EO terminated the contract with their smart provider after 5 years and say we shouldn't have any expectation for a charger to work for that long. It's now just a dumb charger and they refuse to do anything about it saying their legal advice told them they don't have to.
@benespection
@benespection 29 күн бұрын
That's the thing though, customers will expect it to be supported and work as expected for 10+ years like any fixed appliance. These companies will disappear as installers lose faith in their ability to maintain quality product support.
@davidreilly1031
@davidreilly1031 29 күн бұрын
I was going to call my business 'Shocking Treatment' but I decided 'Current Affairs' was more sexy.
@lachlanB323
@lachlanB323 28 күн бұрын
I wish Tesla focused more on destination chargers. This is needed absolutely necessary if we want people that don't have power points at their home e.g apartments. I think Tesla will start putting some priority into it this next year or so.
@adrianthoroughgood1191
@adrianthoroughgood1191 29 күн бұрын
Cactus and passionfruit
@bipedalspecies2086
@bipedalspecies2086 16 күн бұрын
Regarding power tools being resold at car boot sales, that's just another excuse for more government control and we need less. It's also another reason to have digital currency, something else we don't need.
@dansparkyintraining
@dansparkyintraining 29 күн бұрын
Joe what happened to the chin whiskers 😂
@GodmanchesterGoblin
@GodmanchesterGoblin 29 күн бұрын
Looked too much like a cactus... 😅
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
It's springtime, the winter plumage had to go! 😃
@Ayrshore
@Ayrshore 25 күн бұрын
Ethernet for futureproofing? *laughs in 10Base2*
@rogerbrookfield9232
@rogerbrookfield9232 28 күн бұрын
Punning and passionfruit
@JoffiPhone
@JoffiPhone 29 күн бұрын
Cactus & Passionfruit
@cedhome7945
@cedhome7945 27 күн бұрын
License the sale of battery angle grinder's.this will help stop the theft of bicycles, motorcycle's, catalytic converters etc
@kevinhenryviii
@kevinhenryviii 29 күн бұрын
Cactus emoji and Passion fruit 👍🏻
@altafpatel1739
@altafpatel1739 29 күн бұрын
cactus and passionfruit are the 2 words
@_Miner
@_Miner 29 күн бұрын
Passionfruit & Pudding
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Good guesses, make sure you're listening to next week's show to see if you got them right! 😃
@orielzob2821
@orielzob2821 28 күн бұрын
Cactus n Passionfruit
@christhomas9818
@christhomas9818 29 күн бұрын
Punniest and passionfruit
@LossyLossnitzer
@LossyLossnitzer 27 күн бұрын
Why do you need all these security devices in these EV chargers. I worry about the batteries in my loft for fires and what would happen if those EV controllers were hacked and the BMS discharged all at once or discharged to the National grid at the same time.
@mark_just_mark
@mark_just_mark 29 күн бұрын
Cactus and Wordplay
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Good guesses Mark, make sure you listen to next week's show to see if you got it right! 😃
@LeedsSpark
@LeedsSpark 28 күн бұрын
Cactus and passion fruit
@madspacepig
@madspacepig 29 күн бұрын
If the EV charger has PEN fault detection and cut-off, like they are required to now, why does it matter if you are able to touch metalwork on a different distribution system at the same time as the vehicle?
@retrozmachine1189
@retrozmachine1189 29 күн бұрын
There's more than PEN faults at play. It's likely going to come down to exotic issues revolving around how the LV network is setup over there as well as the primary side of the distribution transformer (often 11kV) and associated earthing. Yes, this would be an edge case, ie someone having to get between two items on separate transformers but it's already something that is paid close attention to with other items in the public space so EVs should be treated no differently.
@stranglx
@stranglx 29 күн бұрын
I’d recommend a read of the code of practice edition 5. As far as I’m aware the need for simultaneous contact assessment only arises when providing the charger with a TT earthing arrangement. PEN fault protection is only required where the charger is connected to a TNCS or TNS (where PME conditions will likely apply now or in the future)
@SlyerFox666
@SlyerFox666 29 күн бұрын
​@@stranglxPEN fault is built into all the ones we make and service at work, it used to be a separate product but simpler to just build it in and configure when needed cost wise I guess.
@stranglx
@stranglx 29 күн бұрын
@@SlyerFox666 yeah it makes sense, there are plenty on the market that don’t have PEN fault, Tesla chargers are a notable one.
@deang5622
@deang5622 29 күн бұрын
​@@retrozmachine1189I don't think the potential difference between two different earths on two electrical installations would be considered "exotic". Basic perhaps but not exotic.
@spufmonkey
@spufmonkey 29 күн бұрын
🌵Cactus and 🥝Passion fruit (I know thats a kiwi but there is no passion fruit emoji 🤣)
@Jasonf-km5mq
@Jasonf-km5mq 29 күн бұрын
cactus, passion
@vinney251
@vinney251 28 күн бұрын
Cactus&passionfruit
@utoob7361
@utoob7361 28 күн бұрын
Stringing 240v wires across the sidewalk - what could go wrong? Nothing can be allowed to stand in the way of EV-ification. Let's throw the entire electrical code in the trash!
@cedhome7945
@cedhome7945 27 күн бұрын
With growing evidence of the long term pollution and disposal and big car companies getting cold feet you would think the government would take note of the impending problems with e v cars
@tiepup
@tiepup 27 күн бұрын
⁠@@cedhome7945No such evidence exists, unless you listen to the misinformation being spread by the oil companies. The old manufacturers missed the boat. There’s no lack of demand, it’s just that they failed to plan for the future and are desperate to keep selling cars that need regular servicing at dealerships. BYD, Kia, MG, and Tesla are selling all the EVs they can manufacture and demand for second hand EVs is growing too.
@utoob7361
@utoob7361 27 күн бұрын
@@tiepup you must live in a nice place
@tiepup
@tiepup 27 күн бұрын
@@utoob7361 I live next to one of the largest oil refineries in the U.K.
@thomasbroker69
@thomasbroker69 28 күн бұрын
Our council won’t allow a gully..
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
Yet...
@thomasbroker69
@thomasbroker69 28 күн бұрын
@@efixx trouble is they don't seem interested at all, they said as we have lamppost chargers we not allowing pavement gullies :(
@georgeclark2721
@georgeclark2721 26 күн бұрын
Passion fruit, and cactus.
@bobtahoma
@bobtahoma 28 күн бұрын
Who the fuck listens to this at the wholesale counter?
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
We've got wholesalers who play the news in branch.
@maytyrrell5387
@maytyrrell5387 29 күн бұрын
Cactus 🤠 & punning 🆒️
@rogerbrookfield9232
@rogerbrookfield9232 28 күн бұрын
Passionfruit and cactus
@RB-wl7ct
@RB-wl7ct 29 күн бұрын
You are right. Sunak is a big prick,,, I mean cactus emoji.
@rogerbrookfield9232
@rogerbrookfield9232 28 күн бұрын
Passionfruit
@davidbarnes7866
@davidbarnes7866 28 күн бұрын
My next charger will not be a Zappi. Blatant lies from so called customer service. No support just hard sales for maximum profit.
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
We're prepping a story on this...
@EdwardBretherton
@EdwardBretherton 29 күн бұрын
cactus and passion, still no goody bag😒
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for your patience Ed, we've not forgotten you bud! 😬
@Recessio
@Recessio 29 күн бұрын
I think you looked good with the beard Joe
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
So do I not look good now? 🤔😂👍
@brianburke396
@brianburke396 25 күн бұрын
Cactus emoj word of the day
@matthewboylan1
@matthewboylan1 29 күн бұрын
Cactus and Passion fruit
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Great guesses Matthew, tune into next week's show to see if you got it right! 😃
@jeffmaddison2158
@jeffmaddison2158 28 күн бұрын
Cactus & passionfriut
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 29 күн бұрын
Why are you repeating MyEnergi's blatant snipe at competitor Ohme, whilst not reporting on Myenergi's terrible behaviour towards installers by- badmouthing them to their customers, and denying warranty coverage by falsely claiming bad installation? See latest Electrician's Podcast for details
@edc1569
@edc1569 29 күн бұрын
Myenergi pays out a lot of sponsorship money. They started out as a really innovative company, not sure what went wrong.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Watch this space, right of reply and all that.
@shaunhw
@shaunhw 28 күн бұрын
Myenergi are coming to my house next week because I had a harvi fail, and they realised (from pictures they asked me to send to them) that the installer had used a "type AC" RCD device in the auxiliary fuse box added for my zappi. They are sending someone out to swap it out for the correct one at no charge. They didn't make any comment about the original installer, who I found from their web site. I've never been able to fault their service to me as a customer and end user.
@andyca15
@andyca15 29 күн бұрын
Cactus Passionfruit
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Good guesses, make sure you're listening to next week's show to see if you got it! 😃
@Cymaphore
@Cymaphore 29 күн бұрын
Please explain what are the actual dangers! "Over here" in continental europe everything is on three phases. Even the room I currently sit in has two phases (the lights and the outlet underneath the light switch are on a different phase than the outlets, redundancy) - No issues! All wallboxes >3.8kW are on three phases. It's completely normal, it's not specifically dangerous. Many of the public charging points, even ones next to each other are on different transformers, no problems with that as well. What should cause the claimed danger, I don't understand. You still leave me puzzled what could possibly be the problem. None of our Charging points (11kW, 22kW, etc.) has any such issues. I wonder what could be the fundamental difference in britain or what it specifically is that I don't understand about the electrical system in the UK.
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
It's all about the earthing arrangements and the risks with equipment outdoors. 👍
@Cymaphore
@Cymaphore 29 күн бұрын
@@efixx Thank you, but what exactly? As far as I know, BS-Standards regarding PE and Earthing are harmonized with EN-Standards just like DIN/VDE over here. Code has strict demands on PE and earthing. Every charging point is tested according to the standards, just like any other outlet or any other install. Testing PE, Earthing and the RCD is a significant part of this. So if none of the PEs is faulty and it's all compliant, where's the problem? Again, considering that most of the cars are coated in non-conductive material anyways, good luck in finding a conductive spot on the outside of a BEV. Sorry for being so insisting, but it is realy bugging me.
@edc1569
@edc1569 29 күн бұрын
@@Cymaphoreover here we won’t let people use hairdryers in bathrooms, I wouldn’t worry to much, I’m sure some people at the IET are trying to make a moat for some pals in industry to rip us off more. No doubt a brexit benefit.
@nickstocker4834
@nickstocker4834 28 күн бұрын
@@Cymaphore yes I would like a more detailed explanation, how much of a risk is it? Perhaps it’s something to do with the inevitable non compliant installations over here, or just part of the anti ev brigade spreading yet more disinformation.
@retrozmachine1189
@retrozmachine1189 28 күн бұрын
There's likely more exotic (even though a certain person doesn't like me using the word for some reason) things at play here that'd require more understanding of how low voltage supply is setup over there than I have. It's more than simple earth potential difference or even PEN faults even though they are certainly issues. Normally everything you can touch that has an electrical supply in the public space is fed by the same distribution transformer and in turn that transformer is fed by an even wider area medium voltage supply. The placement of things connected to the electrical supply in the public space has this taken into consideration so that you can't get yourself across items on different transformers to keep things safe. Ultimately the same should be done with EVs.
@andrewwatson3576
@andrewwatson3576 29 күн бұрын
passion fruit and pudding
@chrisbull2448
@chrisbull2448 29 күн бұрын
cactus emoji for the two words?
@Jasonf-km5mq
@Jasonf-km5mq 29 күн бұрын
cactus, passionfruit
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Great guesses, make sure you listen next week to see if you're right! 😃
@TimmyBoja
@TimmyBoja 25 күн бұрын
Cactus passionfruit
@bucklelanefarm
@bucklelanefarm 29 күн бұрын
Passion fruit emoji?
@andysims4906
@andysims4906 29 күн бұрын
My battery charger is dumb. I don’t care it’s over 60 years old and still going strong. No electronics to go wrong or obsolete
@SewerynPas
@SewerynPas 29 күн бұрын
🌵
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Rishi? That you bro?
@alanjewell9550
@alanjewell9550 29 күн бұрын
My understanding is that EV chargers have sophisticated protection built in to detect fault conditions that could present a dangerous voltage to the vehicle body, as well as leakage current trip systems. Is the current level of protection deemed 'inadequate' for on street charging? A video on this channel 3 years ago explained these mechanisms in detail. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pptmZayLltSzg4E.html
@erlendse
@erlendse 29 күн бұрын
Seems to be all about ground potential. And the car is connected directly to ground if I am not mistaken. Something about joining ground and neutral, and houses possibly having different potential due to the sharing of ground and neutral wire.
@effervescence5664
@effervescence5664 29 күн бұрын
It's due to on street parking chargers being single phase. Typically houses are fed via a ring main with every 4th house on the same phase as the 1st. Lamp posts are the same. It allows for balancing of the load but also if the neutral/main ground path becomes compromised you have uneven loading across the main. In turn leads to a far larger potential being 3 phase and 2 separate single phase devices offering protection unlike one 3 phase device on a 22kw charger.
@alanjewell9550
@alanjewell9550 29 күн бұрын
@@erlendse There's no doubt about the potential risk. As the video I posted shows, this has been well thought through with new regs & for protection in the chargers mandated. Is more required?
@noworriesnoproblems6382
@noworriesnoproblems6382 29 күн бұрын
Sorry its not to do with the video guys. But maybe you van help. What should I do if my landlord has had a plumber in a year ago putting a new bathroom in and changing and adding to the circuit but didn't get a part P and ia now lying and saying it didn't need one. Asking as I found live cables. We informed the council and they didn't seem bothered
@ef7480
@ef7480 29 күн бұрын
more details required. What has changed on the installation? What has been added?
@noworriesnoproblems6382
@noworriesnoproblems6382 29 күн бұрын
@ef7480 new shaver ,4 down lights a fan wired In 1.5 3 core and earth with a fan isolator fitted to.isolate 4inch fan with over run. A centre light placed on a jb then additional 1.5 mm cable run to.4x ip.rated down lights. Shaver point wired to light switch for a permanent live.
@ef7480
@ef7480 29 күн бұрын
@@noworriesnoproblems6382 - Blimey, all that in a special location and the plumber reckons it's not notifiable? Hope there is RCD protection on all of the circuits. Yep you are correct. He's lying. Keep hassling the council about your landlord is my advice..oh and tell the plumber to stick to 'plumbing'
@mosfet354
@mosfet354 29 күн бұрын
🌵It's me
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Woah! Rishi in the house! 🤯😂
@flush_me
@flush_me 28 күн бұрын
Cactus and passionfruit
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
Good guesses, listen to next week's show to see if you got it! 😃
@stevejacklin8462
@stevejacklin8462 29 күн бұрын
Rishi Cactus
@bertram-raven
@bertram-raven 25 күн бұрын
"Grounded Electricians" (Well, duh!) "Big Scam Solar" (They had better be good!) "Glow Lightly" (Huxley would be proud.) "Adam and EV" (I believe they perform installations in the nude.)
@balders3544
@balders3544 29 күн бұрын
I've had the 'pleasure' of working for n g bailey's in the past, 1 of the worse companies I've jumped on with in almost 30yrs, surprised there hasn't been any more fatalities
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
That's a real shame. 😔
@Dog-whisperer7494
@Dog-whisperer7494 29 күн бұрын
Rishi and emoji are the two words.
@TheWinstn60
@TheWinstn60 29 күн бұрын
Cactus Emoji
@mikeedwards7173
@mikeedwards7173 29 күн бұрын
What happened to the beard Joe ?🧔‍♂
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
I've shed my winter plumage! 😂
@TheManLab7
@TheManLab7 28 күн бұрын
Took me a second to realise why he said to put a 🌵 cactus in the comments because he's a prick 😂
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
Nope.
@stevejacklin8462
@stevejacklin8462 29 күн бұрын
Sunak Emoji
@ef7480
@ef7480 29 күн бұрын
I'd say the purchaser was the 'dumb' element to think that 'EVs' are viable, both financially or zero emission claims..
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
What's the solution to reducing CO2 emissions?
@robertbox5399
@robertbox5399 29 күн бұрын
Not EV's. India has just celebrated mining 1 billion tonnes of coal last year.
@ef7480
@ef7480 29 күн бұрын
@@efixx - there is never a solution, only a trade off.
@ef7480
@ef7480 29 күн бұрын
@@robertbox5399 - and all of that oil from other countries...
@robertbox5399
@robertbox5399 29 күн бұрын
@ef7480 Etc etc. I have a hybrid that charges from the engine. Can't run a cable down 11 steps and across the pavement. The cable would be nicked anyway.
@esecallum
@esecallum 28 күн бұрын
new survey. only 18 % want ev.. sales down by 30%
@tiepup
@tiepup 27 күн бұрын
Latest stats would disagree with you. The SMMT showed that battery EV sales continue to grow while diesel and petrol car sales decline.
@esecallum
@esecallum 27 күн бұрын
@@tiepup haa haaa haaaaaaa
@tiepup
@tiepup 27 күн бұрын
@@esecallum 21% year on year increase in sales from January 2023 to January 2024. 14% market share up from 13% last year.
@esecallum
@esecallum 27 күн бұрын
@@tiepup haaa haaaa haaaa fart in the wind
@tiepup
@tiepup 27 күн бұрын
@@esecallum Please don’t fart in the wind, methane is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.
@johnny71c
@johnny71c 29 күн бұрын
Just dump EVs and go Hydrogen fuel cell cars. Fuel stations can be upgraded easier to allow Hydrogen fuel storage and takes about the same time to fill up has petrol and diesel. No more crap with charging and charging prices also those like myself with a loop in and out tncs supply dont have to pay for a new cable to be fitted to manage a charger. Stupid British government going the wrong direction as usual
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Not convinced hydrogen's the way forward...
@edc1569
@edc1569 29 күн бұрын
Problem is the EV drivers will be paying half for their energy as they can just pick it up off of the household connection off peak for a few pennies a kWh
@johnny71c
@johnny71c 29 күн бұрын
@@efixx Japan does not seem to think so
@shaunhw
@shaunhw 28 күн бұрын
​@@johnny71c You mean Toyota doesn't seem to think so? I understand that making green hydrogen with electricity is far less efficient than just putting that electricity straight into a battery sadly. Hydrogen has its own issues too.
@jumbo994
@jumbo994 28 күн бұрын
@@edc1569 why is this a problem?
@barrydavis3044
@barrydavis3044 28 күн бұрын
Scrap all EVs.
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
No.
@simonmac4291
@simonmac4291 27 күн бұрын
Cactus and passionfruit
@adrianb7631
@adrianb7631 29 күн бұрын
Cactus and passion fruit
@efixx
@efixx 29 күн бұрын
Good guesses, tune in next week to see if you're right. 😊
@user-it7lf7kk8m
@user-it7lf7kk8m 29 күн бұрын
🌵
@14fy
@14fy 28 күн бұрын
Cactus and passionfruit
@efixx
@efixx 28 күн бұрын
Good guesses, make sure you're listening to next week's show to see if you got it. 💪
@iolekz
@iolekz 28 күн бұрын
🌵
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