Extra 330 Inverted Flat/Accelerated Spins

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Жыл бұрын

We're planning on making a bunch more content in other aerobatic aircraft, warbirds, taildraggers, jets, etc - so if there's something specific you'd like for us to do, just ask! As talked about in the video, we hardly know what we're doing in front of a camera, but we're happy you're here to share in the calamity!
DISCLAIMER
This video is NOT for training. Editing removed context. It is merely for demonstration and entertainment.

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@keithjurena9319 5 ай бұрын

I would say that calm narration during unlimited aerobatics is AMAZING.

@bigdaddy3662 6 ай бұрын

This man is incredibly brave, imagine living in Illinois.

@chadcoady9025 4 ай бұрын

Love it here! I've lived in San Diego CA, Naples FL, and Central Illinois. I like it better here in Illinois. I guess I love corn.

@markusp1788 Жыл бұрын

Nicely, calmly narrated even in the g-loads. Definetly thumbs-up content!

@db5244 Жыл бұрын

I never thought I would have to say "okay hold off on the "g"s!" What an incredible experience!!

@therealjimmysworld Жыл бұрын

That is the craziest ride I've ever been on!!! Loved every minute of it! "doesn't suck" hahaha

@KW-ip2zz Жыл бұрын

Excellent. Great job.

@CVHvisuals 8 ай бұрын

Great content. looking forward to the next episode .

@baderalsulami6114 Жыл бұрын

Great content!! Would love to see more extra aerobatic content! Can’t wait to see ya guys later this month!

@steini6771 6 ай бұрын

Just FAB! Love your calm and tutorial angle. Thanks and greetings from Norway -

@ManleyArts Жыл бұрын

More Please. Looking up & seeing the ground is one of my favorite things when flying. Except on final.

@db5244 Жыл бұрын

You guys were awesome last summer!!

@signrossi1 6 ай бұрын

Super video! Like! Very interisting to see the stick moves in the view with the front seat. All looks so easy.

@nigelgray3045 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely fantastic please do more KZfaq demonstrations

@JSFGuy Жыл бұрын

I've been on three profile flights in these and it never gets old. I can tolerate all maneuvers and sustained 8G descending turn. Made for it I think.

@IzzyFlys1 Жыл бұрын

Awesome guys !

@larrybattin5918 Жыл бұрын

Super job. Keep the great content coming.

@mikeSierraisking Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for putting it up.

@Mr_HellboY Жыл бұрын

Coolest pilot I ever seen 🔥

@tedkrzysztofiak2017 Жыл бұрын

Great content Jared

@EricHaskins71 6 ай бұрын

Love it!!!!! Im just waiting to take my Sport check ride

@pauledwards1157 5 ай бұрын

Those Extra 330s are so much fun!

@christiangraves9340 Жыл бұрын

pretty awesome! im woking on cfi currently but acro instruction is what i really want to do

@chrisclem4470 Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Keep the video’s coming!

@chuckcarmichael7835 6 ай бұрын

Cool stuff. I don't care what you say, you are great in front of a camera. Great narration and description.

@johncline7518 5 ай бұрын

Excellent. Would love to see more aerobatic videos.

@unlimitedaviation8626 Жыл бұрын

Jerad, well done!!

@MrWave58 6 ай бұрын

Me a (ex) pilot myself only say: Very well done!

@dalemurray655 Жыл бұрын

So jealous and would love to see more.

@georgejawny7342 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Much more please Jared! How about a torque roll video?

@bawalther 7 ай бұрын

Great stuff, would love to see more! Hope to become a client eventually

@kyenicals Жыл бұрын

great personality would be a great teacher no doubt

@NateG3678 5 ай бұрын

This was a great video! Let’s see more

@wOoxus Жыл бұрын

Been looking for sucg a channel for a while. Keep the great job!

@highalphaaviation Жыл бұрын

Inside Outside Snap, Knife Edge Spin, Ruade, Mulleroid, Lomchevaks, Cravat, Eventail, Rolling Circles. Look forward to flying soon!

@frankiemae1302 6 ай бұрын

Very cool! Subscribed. Looking forward to more. I'd say keep em level, but not on this channel! Lol

@Samano1100 Жыл бұрын

More of these!

@vaughnbay 5 ай бұрын

Great vid! nice narration. maybe some control position cams too... very cool!

@tedrankine7086 Жыл бұрын

wonderful step by step instructions .. lets see more !! and, how can you get your radio/heaset so darn clear and clean sounding ?

@KeganRitchie Жыл бұрын

Please more!

@bilbotbaggins1536 5 ай бұрын

Very cool. Greets from Germany

@rinzler9775 Жыл бұрын

Great camera angles and demo. If I was going to be picky, one extra cam showing stick and rudder positions would have topped it off.

@TheMopangbend Жыл бұрын

4:14 “After that it’s just your normal inverted spin recovery” we all know what that is :-) Nice work wish I had those skills!

@Maverickf22flyer 7 ай бұрын

Very nice yaw departures! I really enjoy that. How would the "accelerated spin" be defined? You've named it only after pulling full aft stick at close to -80 degrees AoA. Did you feel an increase in rightward yawing moment and yaw rate only after pulling aft stick? I think that the yawing rate increase already happened due to the inputted right roll which raised the right aileron which at a negative AoA on the whole wing of I guess some -100 degrees (air flowing more from the back to front on most of the right wing towards the tip) has generated a backward thrust on the right wing, while the left aileron, at a guessed - 60AoA (guessing that the fuselage's axis relative AoA would be close to an average -80 deg) has generated a forward thrust on the left wing! I mean, I believe that the given aileron input is what caused the yaw rate to increase that high after it was applied and the elevator input didn't do much of a difference, but I'd just like to know from you if this is true! I've been playing that part back and forth trying to visually analyze (but I can be fouled) any further increase in yaw rate since the moment of applying full aft stick as well, but didn't see any difference in the general behavior or motions of the plane. Could you please confirm that there was a difference felt after pulling the stick during the already developed rapid flat spin? Many thanks and I greatly appreciate your answer! I'm asking these because I'm a glider pilot and ex-aerodynamicst assistant at a high speed wind tunnel facility! For me, the laws of physics, aerodynamics and flight dynamics are a great passion to live for! Regards!

@user-ej9jq2zf1y 7 ай бұрын

Wow! I wish your flying club was in the Houston area!!! Really cool!

@gambitaviation 7 ай бұрын

We’re a whole flight school! Come and see us! 🙂

@airman88a 6 ай бұрын

Nice video! How about cameras on the controls in the front seat to go along with your narration!

@pilotgianni 6 ай бұрын

This was just awesome to watch! 👌🏻 Amazing tutorial! For the next one it would be nice if you could film also your feet.

@bartofilms Жыл бұрын

Very Cool. Have you ever tried to set up a particular kind of spin similar to this but ended up with an unexpected or different kind of spin?

@turboromy Жыл бұрын

I bet you said "full aft stick" at 2:50 by mistake as it didn't make sense. Repeated a few times and I can clearly see the stick is indeed pulled. Closest thing I've done was a aggravated spin on a Decathlon. I guess flat/accelerated is quite a different monster. Respect. Really wish to go back to this.

@JSFGuy Жыл бұрын

😁... True that, I take my friends flying well they get a barf bag or a go again ticket. The best place to be I says. Secondary is skydiving.

@djdecember1 Жыл бұрын

Proud of ya bubs! Jealous!

@uwemuller5170 Жыл бұрын

Inverted spin with right rudder spins the a/c to the left

@Valentin_MeL 7 ай бұрын

Wow, that was cool. Not sure if i will be able to repeat to same in Msfs 2020. Right now I can only do in exrtra 330 inverted flight and simple stall recover. What altitude you usually using to do safe aerobatics?

@luftwicker07 Жыл бұрын

Great video. If you're looking to do a few more, I'd love to see a crossover spin demonstration. And it seems impossible to find videos about what can happen when you botch a maneuver ie accelerated stalls at the top of a loop/cuban, falling on your back uncoordinated during a hammerhead, etc.

@ssairshows 7 ай бұрын

Here's a crossover spin: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rpmIpZaana2wcX0.htmlsi=DDUg8_7rgkWQgGBU

@jsa310 5 ай бұрын

WOW

@KevinTalbotTV 6 ай бұрын

love your stunt tutorials, please do them for all the moves :)

@uwemuller5170 Жыл бұрын

Actually your in spin is actually an out-spin aileron command that accelerates the spin. Never mind.

@davidcoppock3017 Жыл бұрын

would love to see more Pitts Model 12 content

@gambitaviation Жыл бұрын

Coming right up! 😁

@AllStarExt Жыл бұрын

I just found out about you guys from a video on Jimmy's world and I will definitely be heading down in a couple months! Last November I flew all the way to San Diego from Wi to take an aerobic flight because you didn't show up on any of my Google searches

@gambitaviation Жыл бұрын

We look forward to it! 😁😁

@irgski 6 ай бұрын

maybe do an exterior shot from another airplane?

@edcew8236 6 ай бұрын

Not sure why aft stick in an inverted spin gives acceleration and not recovery...

@thomasaltruda Жыл бұрын

I find it hard to get it to spin inverted with right rudder, seems to spin easier inverted with left rudder, do you notice that?

@gambitaviation Жыл бұрын

Hey Thomas! That’s in part due to gyroscopic precession!

@ssairshows 7 ай бұрын

You can not accelerate an inverted flat spin with aft stick. It simply doesn't work because there is no laminar flow over the wing or horizontal stabilizer like in a regular upright or inverted spin. In fact, the AOA in an inverted flat spin is ~90 degrees. Even your video shows no change in rotation speed when you pull the stick back. It doesn't work in any airplane and I have tried it in many.😮

@gambitaviation 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your input! 😊

@ssairshows 7 ай бұрын

@@gambitaviation Happy to help! 🙃 I have put this to the test and documented the results of pulling back the stick in the maneuver. Here is such a video shot in my Pitts S-2B 11 years ago when this fallacy was more pervasive. First I baseline with a normal inverted flat spin, then experiment with pulling back the stick. The plane actually lost some spin rate. I have done this in most all versions of the Extra and the results are the same. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hs6Wh5uYqLWnqWQ.htmlsi=CaTiLCsBJITdwxHX

@ssairshows 7 ай бұрын

Here's another video where I put tufts of yarn on the tail of the plane so the airflow can be visualized. Before and after the spin the airflow is as you would expect from nose to tail. Notice that during the spin the airflow is from the top to the belly as we would expect while falling and spinning inverted. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9qig9uQmMypooE.htmlsi=hwU5gdCn4SV-yJhE

@gambitaviation 7 ай бұрын

@@ssairshows Sure looks like it rotates faster with the stick aft! How does one explain with accelerated slipstream, alone, over the elevator creating a shorter lever arm that reduces the moment of inertia along the Z axis? What is the product of that? Bowman et al. Summary of Spin Technology as Related to Light General-Aviation Airplanes, NASA Technical Note D6575 Washington 1971 is a fantastic read and highly recommended. You have to derive a bit to understand some of the content as it comes to inverted spins and asymmetric/symmetric wing characteristics, but you probably get the point. 👍

@ssairshows 7 ай бұрын

@@gambitaviation "Sure looks like it rotates faster with the stick aft! ", No it doesn't and your own video shows no difference. What accelerated slipstream over the elevator are you referring to because it doesn't exist? Did you look at the video link I posted showing the tufts of yarn on the tail of my airplane before during and after the spin? It's very clear the airflow goes from nose to tail during flight then top to bottom during the spin, just as one would expect when a plane is falling at around 60-70 mph and slipstream around the fuselage is overcome by the new airflow. In any case I would be glad to analyze YOUR VIDEO frame by frame inserting frames per second timecode during your normal inverted flat spin and during the time you're pulling the stick back. Then I'll perform the calculations so that simple math can tell the story. I'm 100% confident there is no difference hence no increase in spin rate. Please upload that video here: www.dropbox.com/request/kMxN953XdTj17vHi1p1D

@robertd7073 Жыл бұрын

your nuts jr.

@shooterdude1324 6 ай бұрын

I can't beleive this video is still up!?! When Spencer Suderman, the guy who holds the world record for inverted flat spins gives feedback that you have presented it wrong you should listen!