The trench-digging is making me wish for shovels or demolition charges or some fortification stratagems (beyond the shield relay), would be very cool to see
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I hope we get all of those
@joshuabosman19553 ай бұрын
We're actually getting another fortification stratagem ;)
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
@@joshuabosman1955 wall and MG i hear. Maybe a call in for soldiers too?
@JustEchoes3 ай бұрын
@joshuabosman1955 devs confirmed that not all leaks are things we are getting, some are abandoned things they aren't touching so I wouldn't hype yourself up to much over this stuff
@joshuabosman19553 ай бұрын
@JustEchoes Yeah, no I've seen that too. However I must say this seemed pretty far along in the pipeline so idk. (It did look like it wouldn't be too useful, at least in the version that we could see in the leak)
@RisingChaosWriting3 ай бұрын
Knowing that the enemies that show up at extract are nearby patrols actually could add a lot to the idea of spoiling attacks. Here it might take the form of one player going and aggroing one or more patrols and leading them away from extract as it starts, maybe even provoking a bot drop, meaning those resources arent being targeted at extract, while the distracting player can loop around. Obviously situational, but there's potential
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that's more or less how people used to manage those scientist extractions
@rykenxiv3 ай бұрын
Me: Let's use the hard cover we've got to get a first strike and attack them in their flanks. My random teammates: my face is my cover. . . . . . (Calling reinforcements.) Great video! Enjoyed it as much as the first one!
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Their face is your aggro dump ;^) Thanks very much Ryken!
@mawnkey3 ай бұрын
My reinforcement budget breaks down as follows: Me: 1 My Random Teammates: 27
@ExtraRaven_3 ай бұрын
i think these are super cool for their reference to real life military strategy and just generally fun to think about. thanks for making these helpful and interesting videos!
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I hope to continue, shame this video did so poorly. Maybe patch day was a bad day to release lol.
@user-xsn5ozskwg3 ай бұрын
Whoa, the preparation point was really inspiring. I hadn't even considered the possibility of changing the battlefield like that.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I hope they add new ways to do that!
@TheWileSpice3 ай бұрын
First extraction after this video is going to hit different.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Thats certainly my hope
@HazopGaze3 ай бұрын
More guides for more sophisticated Helldivers, good stuff! I've always been more attuned with defensive strategy, so seeing these guides getting a bit of traction makes me smile. While everyone else is going mental with balance patch stuff, my comfort is in processing battle plans, fallbacks, and fallbacks to those fallbacks.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Balance comes and goes, but knowledge is power.
@cas95643 ай бұрын
Another tip: If extraction happens to be on the way to the next objective or you're calling it in, *drop your samples at the landing pad* If you're doing this while main objectives are still up, this ensures that your samples aren't trapped in a sea of bots that you can't fight through and if this is while extracting, it ensures that you if you die, a teammate or even you reinforcing yourself can easily pick up the samples right before getting on Pelican-1 since they're like 2 ft away.
@Cold_Zero_The_Wise3 ай бұрын
On alot of mission I regularly offer to me The Sample Bearer of the team
@adriankoch9643 ай бұрын
Also don't drop the samples exactly on the spot the pelican or call in marker will land, but just near it, otherwise they might end up obstructed by a burning jet engine.
@aeyasera13 ай бұрын
one more idea I want to add to "preparing for extraction": you can often use the resupply pod or a gear pod (or both) to build a step/stairway that can allow you to climb up onto the rocks at/around extraction, especially since a lot of them are flat on top while you might end up getting shot by bots in some cases, it also lets you get a really good view over the battlefield and if push comes to shove, you can try to prone on top of the rocks to avoid fire and wait for the extraction ship from there
@audunms47803 ай бұрын
A thing i thought ought too be mentioned is that your posisions should have the property of you being able too move too and from them without being shot or mauled too a significant degree. In short, a posision must not destroy your capasity of manuver. This can be done by having cover between posisions, or the ability too reduce enemy fire for the nececary time too change them. Smoke functions well in this regard, also eagle airstrikes and covering fire.
@randomm96833 ай бұрын
Keep up the amazing work it's awesome to see someone actually applying small unit tactics and teaching this to other people
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Its fun!
@randomm96833 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk now I just need to get my teammates to watch and pay attention to your videos before the 5th time I've shared them with them lol. Maybe they can even absorb some of the information
@kevinspatz4983 ай бұрын
Been waiting for your sequel to drop! I'm really digging this series.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Thanks much!
@toddsilverwolfe3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for your Guerrilla Tactics video. Those are my favorite to employ on the Automaton front. I often find myself drawing aggro from range away from teammates with a few carefully chosen targets using my AMR or Autocannon before retreating and looping back after losing the enemy. Definitely helps with the extraction portion of the mission as well. Also, if my team is already engaged, I can pick off hard targets with impunity at range. I've gotten quite a few "thank you" emotes from saving teammates getting rushed down by multiple hulks and devastators. I love my AMR and AC.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I look forwards to finally being able to work on it. I have been tragically quite delayed.
@cashcrop_3 ай бұрын
Nice, dude! I remember some of those extracts. Love that about this game...it gives me strong memories.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Its also tremendously cinematic, which I love. Glad we've been able to get so many games in.
@rapid41883 ай бұрын
Bug strategies: Have anti-tank, kill hunters, always be moving Bot strategies: Study of various military strategies, layout of map cover, Sun Tzu preliminary reading
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
And thats the best part
@arkhunter20023 ай бұрын
good work, imo this is *a lot* better video than the first - an option for conducting defensive rehearsals can be done on the map, talking with pings on where you want to set up your battle positions and strong points (good on you for bringing them back up in defense in depth) - your companion to the observations point is basically creating SOPs based on fighting tiles - thanks for putting out this content helldiver!
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Practice makes perfect as they say and I aim to make improvements each time. You're right about the SOPs comment.
@Gunch223 ай бұрын
My team (Super Earth Orbital Command, or S.E.O.C.) has been using what we call "extract meta" for weeks. Dropping on extract, clearing out the area, and dropping the first supply pack of the mission onto it. It's really cool how emergent gameplay lines up with actual tactics
@adriankoch9643 ай бұрын
Also, you can totally play around having one player with all of the samples do the stealth extract and the other three causing havoc outside the extraction zone (away from aggroing the bot at extraction) if needed. It'll divert patrols away from extraction, so either the stealth player can extract safely alone (ensuring everybody gets samples) or if situation allows, the other three players rush towards extractions once pelican is about to set down. Also thanks to how the patrol spawn mechanic works, some players spreading out away from extraction but still within ~75 is meters from it can be used to deny spawn too close to extraction itself or even make the extraction complete non-combat if it is close enough to the map border.
@BustertheMadCat3 ай бұрын
That was my strategy if objective position would allow. Drop at extract and call in all the supplies and support but leave it there for later, cooldowns will be done by the time combat starts kicking off. That support wall strategy was great, im gonna try that out too. Also i found haebyung a bit ago too, looking up any small unit tactics i can, even if its for a different game! But then squad looked pretty cool, a unique take on milsim. Keep throwing those books out!
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Thanks much! The wall strat is fun, it works, but very narrow advantage for sure.
@grrrund3 ай бұрын
Oh my GOSH thank you for the well spoken, well thought out content. 🙏🏼
@xon09303 ай бұрын
Some fantastic ideas for strategy! I'm definitely going to see if my group of vets can utilize some of these concepts. I never even thought about intentionally digging trenches with explosives to use as cover! It's too bad that enemies aren't impeded by trenches though. I don't think they need to impassible, but it'd be helpful if their movement speed when exiting a trench was slower in proportion to how steep the exit slope is. Hopefully we get the barbed wire call in from the first game and we can actually set up defenses that will slow the enemy down. Now I want a shovel for digging trenches and smacking enemies over the head with too!
@PondsOfChooms3 ай бұрын
another amazing video with gameplay concepts!
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much!
@josephhall36782 ай бұрын
OAK-OC (alternatively OCOKA): Observation (and Fields of fire) Avenues of Approach Key Terrain Obstacles Cover and Concealment
@Reginald-sc9tkАй бұрын
Excellent call out
@glaciarch64243 ай бұрын
5:18 I’ve seen this sometimes called “soft alert”. This is when an enemy has previously been in an alerted state but their target is lost by breaking LOS. This causes them to path towards the nearest player, sometimes even firing in that general direction with perfect accuracy, and causing them to instantly become alerted upon acquiring LOS again. It was kind of alluded to but not directly given a term so I felt it was worth mentioning
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Eravin discussed this well, I didn't want to get too deep in this video but you're certainly correct.
@abrahamtan57663 ай бұрын
When extracting, if I feel like it, I will play the bait role Every second the enemy is looking at me, they are not checking their backs, or advancing to the extraction point. Extra point if you managed to make them call their reinforcement far from extract, and have them lost you, walking off to a completely different direction Sometimes, I would ask the team to call in extract while I'm on the other side of the map clearing something else, purposefully aggro-ing patrols just for lols. Too lazy to run back to extract sometimes. Just have them "teleport" you back lol. With light armor and stealth, it's surprising how much you can get away with and survive. Note: always drop the samples at the extract beforehand.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
B8 role is a great plan
@Karakzul2 ай бұрын
This is sick man. Would love to hear your thoughts on using mech inf tactics with the mechs to keep them alive longer on higher lvls. Learned a lot after watching the first video! Thanks for the info and the food for thought. See you on the field hellpig
@Reginald-sc9tk2 ай бұрын
I think that's going to be the subject of my upcoming mech tutorial because they've changed the patriot like 3 times since it launched so for longetivity's sake I'll focus on non-changing elements of it.
@Neuloo3 ай бұрын
mega weird that this vid didnt even get recommended to me
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
It didn't do well at all. Sometimes the algorithm doesn't like what it doesn't like I guess. Glad you found it at least
@Cold_Zero_The_Wise3 ай бұрын
I literally subbed to this channel just for the HellDiver log entries at the start of the videos, thousands of channels i could watch for thr ssme content but those logs make it more interesting Have you ever considered making a whole video as a long story log entry?
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I haven't but now that you've said it that sounds like a super fun project. I promise you I will make one, but it may be a month or two before I can complete it.
@Cold_Zero_The_Wise3 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk Dear HellDiver, your are advised to treat this "Request" with the utmost importance, as if an order from Super Earth high Command. Fallour to do so will see the individual (namely you HellDiver) Court Marshalled under suspicion of Dissidents & TREASON. Remember Treason is bad 😔
@RoflcopterPunch3 ай бұрын
2:42, go HD2 community! :D
@PaulVoss-fc2ry3 ай бұрын
Great video! Are you planning on making more advanced Helldivers guides including military tactics like this?
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I'd like to do one one guerilla tactics and then bugs i think
@JAMBUILDER083 ай бұрын
I already toss down spare supply strategems on extraction if I ever pass by it
@quadconjures3 ай бұрын
defense in depth = tower defense is a little cursed primarily because of accuracy
@purplecurtisimo3 ай бұрын
Nice shoutout to Haebyungdance. His squad content is solid.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Good work deserves respect.
@purplecurtisimo3 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk AND YOU'VE EARNED IT, HELLDIVER
@Ninjat1263 ай бұрын
Man, imagine how much lower the Helldiver casualty rate would be if SEAF included this stuff in the training, instead of the automated cape ceremony. ...but hey, if SEAF were competent then we wouldn't have a game.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Ngli i never played the tutorial. My first mission was a level 7 bots lmao
@marmol-ki4cx3 ай бұрын
I would like more defencive tactics with defensive builds
@Spec-FiveCarr3 ай бұрын
🤔 Hmmmm, wouldn't it be cool if you could step on your strategically placed, empty stratagem hellpod and it would lower you to armpit depth...foxhole! Seriously though, you've taken this game to the next level (at least!). FM's are on order. Ideas are percolating. I used to play Stronghold and would get frustrated with defending my castle. As a retiree, I was able to take Army Correspondence Courses (yes, it was that long ago). The "Engineer in the Defense" was especially enlightening in that it discussed "defended obstacles". Using this info, in the kill zone outside my walls, I would build random columns of stone blocks. The AI would have the enemy stop to chip away at them during their approach-making them easy pickings for my archers.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I love that you took inspiration from real concepts and applied them to your games. Its ny hypothesis that the reverse can be done and that games can be used as a kind of mental flexibility training
@Spec-FiveCarr3 ай бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk a la "Ender's Game"
@kaijin88153 ай бұрын
guerilla warfare. Please. PLEASE.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Next one. Gonna take some research.
@Dadh4t3 ай бұрын
Gonna break out the North Vietnam Tactical Handbook next time?
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
@@Dadh4t I mean, I have watched a couple of documentaries. I'm sure I could find something if I look hard enough.
@Qdobafett3 ай бұрын
FOR SUPER EARTH!
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
FOR SUPER EARTH!
@OblivionWonderlust3 ай бұрын
please please please do one for bug missions. it’s just absolute chaos in those sectors
@danielsula47203 ай бұрын
baller vid, man.
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@sparow5302 ай бұрын
most people just scream and go into combat with a shotgun and impact grenades then get overun by bots and we lose 8 reinforces
@Reginald-sc9tk2 ай бұрын
Just 8?
@Gaelic-Spirit3 ай бұрын
This is so awesome, I'm gonna dig some trenches
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah!
@leegofilms3 ай бұрын
I wonder how these tactics could be applied to the emergency evac missions 🤔
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
Should be able to be used
@MargellMusic2 ай бұрын
Footage of break action shotgun on bot helldive ftw 15:49
@Reginald-sc9tk2 ай бұрын
I love that thing
@Loud2233 ай бұрын
Creek crawler tutorials I call em
@senangorman73863 ай бұрын
Love your sense of humour, it's very democratic
@matt-bl4tg3 ай бұрын
Brasch tactics!
@belliott5383 ай бұрын
We need a Tequila Stratagem…
@vze1ruuh19 күн бұрын
Can you do these type of videos for darktide too?
@Reginald-sc9tk18 күн бұрын
I have some ideas, yeah, but i have a few things on my plate im trying to churn through.
@vze1ruuh18 күн бұрын
@@Reginald-sc9tk whoop!
@vze1ruuh3 ай бұрын
Only 20 mins :’(
@Reginald-sc9tk3 ай бұрын
I'd love to do a big 1 hour smash but I really gun for conciseness in my presentation. Itd be a big video to go long.