Oh my god, I can't believe it, someone who actually shows how to make the mech work instead of saying "mech dies when you stand in front of the enemy like a chicken with it's head off. It sucks!"

It’s incredible that the front armor is the weakest lmao

Me and my buddies use the mechs not as tanks or even "super infantry", but as artillery. Two of us go in and complete the objective, the other two, in their mechs, use either their rocket pods or their autocannons to MASSIVELY thin out the dropships that get summoned. Because the offensive pairing draws the dropship to them, the mech pair can afford to be in a safer place, and focus entirely on dumping ammo onto the dropships' exposed infantry or their engines (in the case of a tank of factory strider). Additionally, the autocannon mechs are able to destroy fabricators from ludicrous ranges, while the standard is able to mow down trash mobs from equally long distances. Furthermore, two players bringing mechs allows for versatility in how we use them. Redundancy is always a good thing to have, and having an extra mech is always nice, especially considering just how fragile they can be when used recklessly.

Helldiver 17762 here, thank you Reginald for the information on the mechs, may this knowledge help us spread managed democracy.

Typically, when an armored vehicle is designed, the front of the vehicle (which ideally is the side facing enemy fire) bears the thickest armor. Super Earth did not learn this lesson. As someone who loves armored vehicles and tanks and such, it drives me crazy that the FRONT is the weakest side of the mech!

No bullshit, straight research and take-home advice. Thanks for the info. For what it's worth, even though the entire game is in a constant state of flux, the devs were absolutely unwilling to do much to change the mechs back in HD1. Buff requests in particular were nearly unilaterally ignored. So what we've got now may stick around. Armor 2 on the front is truly baffling though; I personally tried out the Patriot on its release, watched it blow up on landing or by brushing up against a thorny bush, and never used a mech again since their initial release. Even after the defensive buffs, I'd rather have the flexibility of another strategem than "become stronger infantry for a bit". There's strangely no tank fantasy to be had from "stomping around in a big metal mech". The Autocannon mech that got a lot of flak for being crap against bugs and bots may be very powerful against the illuminate when they come out because they don't use armor. However, the illuminate also use homing projectiles and instant hit sniping attacks that would absolutely penetrate the mechs as they are now, so the jury is out.

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The mechs completely trivialize egg missions. My buddies and I drop right into the middle of the map, drop our exo-suits, and just go on a leisurely walk. Send one mech to each egg nest and you can clear that mission type on difficulty 9 in mere minutes.

as an old MechWarrior head I very much appreciate the love and attention given to the bots

About the ending and regarding replying to comments, I was once making a series of artworks and they went semi viral. What surprised me was how exhausting it is to reply to everyone. It wasn't that i didn't have enough time, it was just... So oddly tiring. It's not even that I didn't want to or didn't like it, it was just that it was a surprisingly mentally taxing thing. It's like trying to have a deep meaningful conversation with every person you see on the street, which is just not sustainable. It really really does help so much to just read comments and not feel the pressure of feeling like you need to like or reply, so the next time you feel ignored even though they say they "read every comment", they're probably telling the truth, I can tell you that from experience.

I had 0 clue there was a stomp attack this whole time. That will save me some ammo in the future. Also, emancipator 4 lyfe

I'm actually glad you done this. I always find it frustrating with this community especially that there are complaints about something and provide little feedback or suggest the boring fix of "Just add more damage." And so with this, it actually helps us understands both the strengths and the weaknesses that can explain the issue. Which BY GOD, the fucking issue of the most vulnerable part of the mech IS THE FRONT?!?! Like that's fucking mind boggling. It's the closest thing the helldivers has to a tank. And they make the weakest part the one where you have to point at towards the enemies that will probably shoot at you. That's a fucking insane flaw. Like what does that tell me as a player? That I should always be running away from enemies? Doesn't that go against the point of a mech? The things I do hope for is the use of stratagems. Something the first game had but doesn't now, it would make some things bearable. But the other thing is that I do agree that backpacks should be doing something. The shield is great but imagine refilling your ammo with supplies, using drones for extra cover fire, or even use the backpacks of weapons like the rocket launchers to add ammo to the mech and let them use special kind of ammo. Like imagine the mech firing a lock on spear missile? Or using the ammo of the auto cannon. It provides some certain builds you can use to enhance the exosuits and make it more fun to use.

the mech isn't dropped by a pelican. it's a different type of jet vtol chopper.

Im glad to see someone else knowing what theyre doing with the mechs. Have had more than one friend ask me how i manage to stay alive in them on bots. Literally just use them as a huge offensive boost, not invincibility haha Great tutorial, really hope more people pick them up. Even with two uses, proper timing and usage go an extremely long way to stabilizing a sideways situation.

I haven't used it a ton, but I found the most success with the mech on defence when i committed to holding an angle. The big benefit of the mech is that you are largely immune to the weapons that come online the fastest when an enemy sees you. Rockets take a moment to aim and stance up, for example, and so where a helldiver holding an angle can be suppressed by enough small arms fire from a rush of enemies, in a mech you can shrug it off and they have to deal with the barrage of rounds coming their way. Best part? when things get hairy, you just move.

I liked the video. Very informative. Possible thing that could've been added was complementing strategems, and how the mech functions when you get out of it. For complementing weapons, whenever I bring a mech, I usually bring EATs or the Spear. For bugs, popping out of the mech to land a Bile Titan headshot with an EAT or Quasar can reduce the amount of AC shots or Rocket Pod shots from the mechs to down it by a significant amount, letting you save on ammunition. Using EAT calldowns liberally also lets you handle shrieker nests or spore towers while, again, saving a lot on your mech's ammo. For bots, the Spear allows you to tactically approach bot bases by stripping cannon turrets and popping tanks in heavy outposts before wading in to kill the chaff and destroy the fabricators. Once those key targets are down you're free to assault the base with impunity. Other strategems I bring whenever I'm running a mech are the AC sentry and Eagle Strikes. Against bots, your mech is a bigger threat than an AC or rocket sentry, drawing the fire of rocket raiders and devastators while your turrets can attack from a flank mostly unhindered. For bugs, you can screen for your turret more effectively, or use a shorter cooldown MG sentry as a distraction. Eagle strikes let you hop in and out of your mech to toast certain objectives at range (specifically, running 500s vs Detector Towers). While you're in transit to the next objective, you can send a rearm, making up for the loss of strategem firepower against roaming patrols with your mech. Mech calldowns don't aggress enemies unless you call down the mech in their vision range. This means, if you toss down a mech at extract at the beginning of the mission, as long as no enemies saw you do it, it'll still be standing there when you come back for it. On the other hand, since the mech is an important target to bots/bugs, you can also use an empty mech as cover or a distraction. Bot bases have wide enough corridors for a mech, but not a mech and a strider or hulk. Leaving an expended mech in a corridor or chokepoint can force enemies to shoot at the empty mech or melee it instead of closing with you while you deal with an objective.

I think people forgot about the nature of these mechs that disposable like Helldivers. These things has more useful as mobile fire support for supporting the team

Nice knowing that chargers aren't that big of a threat. I was always worried about getting hit by them.

Helldiver “Stomper of Terminids,” here. I’ve always enjoyed the mech and never understood people’s whining. Every single strategy requires exactly that , a DIFFERENT STRATEGY and like every other support ; it’s got it’s uses and weaknesses

Fantastic video, the information you've shared will really help me make the most of my mechs (when I finally unlock them). I never would have guessed that the front had the weakest armour.

i really like this video! thank you for keeping it so clear and concise. i really like the clear timestamps and clock thingy. :>

Yeah on the charger charge is important to note that if you dont move he'll do a regular sttack abd destroy you. This is why i loved bringing shield generator as well. *edit to clarify the deployable shield generator not the backpack as this forces them to bounce on it as well among a myriad of other perks when fighting bugs

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I think some talk on the overall survivability of the mech against the higher damage enemies (especially for the bots) might’ve been useful, as well as some exploration into how the rest of the squad can help as infantry support like say having a dedicated Spear player to deal with gunships and cannon turrets etc

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Good points here. Just an oddity to add that the Emancipator can go deeper underwater for longer than the Patriot...because Yellow Submarine I guess

If you've ever played mechwarrior games the tactic of 'torso twisting' to roll damage also works pretty well with the helldivers mechs since the sides are more well armored than the center torso. Essentially if you have to move between cover and walk out into the open twist so you're perpendicular to the incoming fire

looking forward for new mech releases. the current ones are pretty fun as a breath of fresh air

Nice job! I think it's a little funny that you looked up tank doctrine to figure out how the mech playstyle. It's just that the two vehicle types are almost not comparable. Tanks are the kings of the open field, while Mechs would completely out preform them in crowded urban environments. Tbh Gacrux, with the giant trees acting like skyscrapers, should be one of the best planets to see how far the current mechs can be pushed

It would be cool if they added a vehicle resupply and repair torch/kit stratagem for people that want to focus on playing with vehicles, plus extra sustainability wouldn’t hurt

"Oh mech of the seas, what is your wisdom." Here's a wisdom everyone can use: Stop shooting down automaton dropships with anti tank weaponry, everything on board will survive and can shoot you through the wreckage when you can't shoot back.

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Excellent video! Exactly what I would advise and more!

Nice work! No fluff about it, just some straight-up, useful advice to use. Thank you so much, after this I'll most definitely be using the mechs more in the field.

Oh good, someone who can actually pilot one and speaks on how to make it work. Thank you for not complaining the whole video. Also I find that when you use the dual mech glitch these things are outrageously op. The ability to not worry about ammo and just smash right into objectives and kill everything, for every primary objective in the mission, is just very strong. It's even better when you consider that these will aggro everything in a huge radius, so taken the heat off your buddies when they need it is a great way to get the job done. I love my exo's 🤤 Edit: another thing to consider is that your armor does matter as a mech pilot. Heavy armor, or democracy protects, can increase your chances of surviving the mech dying.

I play a lot of the battlefield games and would call myself a vehicle main. More or less much of the same thought process in those games applies to the mechs here. Its best not to think of mechs as leading the force but as fire support to infantry. Your target priority should be enemies more difficult for infantry to deal with. This isnt just the chargers and factory striders, but bots like heavy and rocket devastators, and for bugs its hunters, warriors ,brood commanders and spewers. As fire support, hanging behind teammates and picking off the more problematic enemies will allow for infantry to have an easier time pushing whatever objective they're going for. That isn't to say you shouldn't approach though. Being aware of your teammates state is critical for success. If you see a teammate retreating, you should be taking out the enemies causing them to retreat or drawing their aggro. The idea is to be maximizing the damage potential of your whole team, and supressed allies reduces that damage. Playing like this also has some benefits with randoms. I find players are much more likely to stick around me if they feel like I will protect them, and in turn they'll help me when im in danger as well. Also take recon armor! Situational awareness is the key to survival in the mech. Constantly be checking the map and use map pings to scout for enemies. The recon booster also helps a ton with the mech and lets you react accordingly.

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As long as the arm pokes round the corner you can shoot. Everyone always shows their whole mech when they use it to peek.

i been inspired to become a mech player now, uh oh

This is a very good video. Greatly appreciate the insight

This is a great guide. As me and I friend have been XO enjoyers from the time they were added I have a few points to add. What's often not stated is how important it is to work with your team. If you hop into your exo and run off blazing into the distance away from your team you could potentially even become a detriment. What you should be doing is quickly checking where your team is and covering a flank completely for them Or Not shooting every single thing you see. A lot of times even if your buddies are on foot it doesn't mean they're not incapable. If you rather pick out hard targets that are a little bit harder for your team to kill like devastators/striders on the bot side, or hiveguards commanders streakers and bile spitters on the bug side. Then let your teammates clear up all the things which they can easily dispatch you will feel like you've doubled your ammo. You should of course respond and help your teammates by killing things that are getting too close to them but there's no reason to kill every little insignificant thing when your teammates can do that.

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Thank you for the info I am constantly trying to update my tactics depending on what the situation is. I generally run the mg and missile mech do to its versatility. The information on how to deal with chargers by just letting them charge you is definitely getting used.

All I really want is for them to add a Dual Flamethrower mech, so I can relive the glory days of playing Papa Scorch in Titanfall 2

Well, I just got to the point where I don’t have anything else to spend samples on. Just a slow grind for medals that I don’t really want to spend. Guess I’ll get good at mechs now!

I felt like the armor of the mech was either for structural in order to support two heavy weapons or balance(not gameplay) because it walked on two legs. But i still hope that in the future, there will be either buff or upgrade for it .

the mechs are a lot of fun, but my main problem with them is that you only get 2 per mission. imo they should give you at least 3 on a 8 min cooldown instead of a 10 min one.

I wonder if the bad rep was mostly from the initial release. Back when those bug mines and spores could kill the mech. It makes sense to use the mech like other mech games. Light mechs I mean. Lots of movement and cover. I still don't know why the surface, most likely to be shot, has the lightest armor. Wondering if we'll eventually need a guide for the wheeled vehicles as well.

The way I see it, you need to use and treat mechs like how tanks are used irl You act as the squad’s shield and sword, you draw in the enemy and kill them en masse, your team on the other hand will be your bow, they keep an eye out for AT enemies(rockets, artillery, armor) and take their time to properly aim and lay suppressive fire To this end, you can also switch with the infantry and be their bow as they act as your sword, staying back as you blast crowds to bits and take out dropships

A very nice niche use of the mechs is dealing with annoying Stalkers. Stalkers are next to helpless against mechs, and can only get shot at, stomped and die when facing a player in a mech. And the cherry on top is that (for the Emancipator at least) you can shoot Stalker lair bug holes shut at one shot per hole.

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I love the power the Mechs can theoretically bring. The problem, that many things in this game have, is that we don’t get to use said power as much as we want or even need. 2 limited uses doesn’t seem fair considering the limited ammo. I can’t tell what AH wants them to be. Disposable quick use stratagems like an EAT or long term usage. The problem is that it doesn’t do either 2 well. They need to double down somewhere. Are they gonna be quick power ups every few minutes or strong stratagems we need to take care off. If the former they need at least 3 uses plus a shorter cooldown. The latter needs the Mech to have more ammo and stronger armour. OR… give us a damn upgrade tree like every other stratagem. There are 2 Arc stratagems and for some reason they get a powerful endgame upgrade but not Mechs.

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This is less true after the buffs, but I still think mechs serve a great role as a tank in the more modern military sense: A mech on its own is really only at half strength. I feel like they’re great ways to support and “ground” a team, but they lack the flexibility of a trooper on the ground. With the recent updates, mech’s can win fights on their own, but its going to be an extremely inefficient use of ammo. One of my favorite ways around this is to buddy up with a friend, and we each have one mech type. By deploying together and covering for each other’s weaknesses, we got so much more (literal) milage

The mech can change Camera angles same way a helldiver can, which before the patch making the aim better, was the only way to aim rockets properly, though now it makes it a bit easier though more optional, by holding right mouse click and hitting the switch side interaction key (i have it bound to melee), this works better with the patriot because of the spool up delay with the rotary cannon on the left arm, however for the emancipator you Will waste ammunition doing this and serves no benefit as both cannons are better boresighted than the patriot’s. Hopefully in the future AH will give the mech a dedicated switch side keybind to not have to waste ammo switching shoulders.

Having to tell people to use a mech as a mech rather than a tank to be effective against bots is always strange. Perhaps that is part of the reason why many cannot see what a mech is for, because to them all vehicular combat is a slapfight where you must tank every hit.

Mech would be vastly improved if it's limited uses were gotten rid of and a shorter cd. Right now mechs do not contribute enough to any mission against virtually every single other strategem.

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Excellent video! The "walk damages bots" was nice to confirm, and I'm shocked the front of the mech is the weakest. As far as tactics go, in a group it's good to have infantry move in front of the mech and prioritize AT infantry and other armored threats. The mech seems to fill the fighting role of a sort of a Humvee; carries heavier support weapons but is technically more vulnerable than the infantry it supports (and Mechs are not fast, something something Mechs IRL are impractical). If infantry can focus on AT threats then either mech will desolate the rest and make devestators a thing of the past. I'm kind of curious on if you found unique ways to use the call in Pelican (either through positioning or timing) to clear out enemies. What, if any, changes would you like to see from Mechs?

The emancipator can aim its autocannons down, You just have to melee at the same time.

because the armor is stronger on the sides, you may want to look into MechWarrior online or MW mercs for strategies. for example lets say that you run out of missiles quite fast, if so just use that side to armor role and shield enemy fire. Since the Mech isn't a tank but a humanoid weapon platform, most vehicle strategies won't really apply to lower weight mechs in general

Infantry support is huge for mechs. Bring a friend with anti-tank on bugs or a shield generator relay on bots and let them prioritize anything that might kill you. More effective than 2 people on foot and a lot of fun!

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Mechs would be wild if they could shrug off small arms fire from front.

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NGL I take at least one turret on almost every run but I use mech only when handed out for free. I just can’t justify a 10 minute cool-down and 2 uses for a vehicle I can run out if ammo for with a single breach/drop. That’s 3 turrets, 20+ clusters or 7-8 precision strikes with no usage restrictions beyond landing the poke balls.

The mech is always going to be a 'for fun' stratagem to me. As the guy that always hordes limited use items in any game, I'm always too worried about wasting something I have only two of.

I’ve always been a big mech supporter as i find it to be even more useful than a big bomb or other stratagem, its a trump card to turn a bad situation around or to hold your ground during extract.

I love the mechs, but they just feel so limited. Two uses per mission, can only take one type, and they only have enough ammo to get through 1-2 breaches on higher difficulties. I really hope they add a way to enhance them like in HD1

Mechs are heavily underpowered

It would be very cool if we could stash the data onto the sides of the mechs but this utility didn't exist in the first, and with no other mention it's likely intended. But they have shown they're responsive to community feedback such as buffing the Precision Strike for more general combat purposes, maybe we could convince them to add that in. Alternatively, some handlebars on the back that lets up to two divers ride along would be pretty fun to.

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I love mechs in all types of sci fi. From Starship Troopers, C&C, StarCraft, MechWarriors, Gundams, 40k. Like how awesome would it be to play something like a dreadnought from 40k in helldivers 2 setting. I would have the time of my life. I would trade all of my Stratagems slots and my primary/secondary if I could play a dreadnought. sigh....I know it's never gonna happen, but a man can dream, right.... :(

My main question is are there certain situations that either mech excels better in to sort of understand which one I might want to bring on a certain mission, or is it just personal preference

We should be able to ride the Mechs like it's Titanfall 2

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Its not always we get ejected from being submersed in water, I've used it to take a teammate on top of the mech across deep water that would go up to their waist while standing on the mech. Perhaps it has something to do with being the host? or something else.

My hats off to any mech players it probably takes the most skill to use on the bot side, that said add mech rearm or 1 more use pls AH support weapons can resupply but mechs can’t?

I do wish we eventually get a heavy flamer mech

Any tip for exposing the charger’s weak point with exo-45? I think I spam a lot of missiles to one of their leg yet the armor on it still kicking.

anyone know how to live the mech death explosion while you’re in it?

You can kill a charger with one melee from a bot

Helldiver 18386 here, I neglect usage of the mechs perhaps to my own regret. Maybe I should use them more often?

Mech is great for bug. Using it to bots is kinda death wish. Still, front of the mech as weak spot still lame. Not to mention legs and arms can easily destroyed by light weaponry.

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mech dying to plants is ridiculous