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Extruded aluminum galley framing - DIY Sprinter camper van
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Күн бұрынThis video shows the use of 80/20 extruded aluminum to frame the galley kitchen for my DIY Mercedes Sprinter camper van. Complete write-ups are available on my website on working with 80/20: ourkaravan.com
Be sure to read our article about working with 80/20. ourkaravan.com...
It provides helpful tips on how to order the product and explains how shipping gets less expensive (per unit) as you add more product to your shopping cart.
If the store does not work, here are the direct product links:
Smooth 4-slot 1.5" square x 97" long profile: amzn.to/2YfNVP5
80/20 3-slot framing (48" long): amzn.to/2xqeSS0
80/20 2-slot framing (48" long): amzn.to/2z7538P
Non-Ferrous saw blade (for a 7.5" miter saw): amzn.to/2y3TUp2
Hillman Zinc-plated carriage bolts: amzn.to/2xtJz3I
Hillman Zinc-plated Nylon nuts: amzn.to/2yB6kYv
As a precaution, use zinc-plated carriage bolts and nuts to prevent galvanic corrosion. This article states galvanic corrosion does not exist in warm, dry environments, but better to be proactive about it. Read about it here: www.aluminiumde...
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@HumbleRoad 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent choice of material to use for your framing. Strong, lightweight, easy to work with. I will pick up on your suggestion for my upcoming van build. Thank you!
@tomaskazokas8123 3 жыл бұрын
Actually 80/20 extruded aluminum is far from lightweight. Especially standard 1.5-inch squares.
@claycassin8437 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomaskazokas8123 Is it heavier than equivalent strength wood? I am in the initial planning stages, and could use advice on that. Thanks!
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
A skilled woodworker could possibly get the weight lower, but it will never be as safe and strong as an aluminum framed structure, and certainly not as flexible for making changes later.
@tomaskazokas8123 3 жыл бұрын
@@claycassin8437 I'm not sure about the wood. I would suggest using 1x1 inch tubes for most non-critical structures: cabinets, countertops, etc... The structures that will take heavy stress should be 1.5inch tubes.... like a bed for example.
6 жыл бұрын
This is very appealing! One thing I learned from my moldy 2003 RV is that my DIY (being planned) will have to be completely modular, with every cubic inch accessible for maintenance and ideally, everything able to be disassembled for upgrades and modifications. I was going for wood and possibly wood substitutes (from the marine side of things, there's a structural wood replacement made of fiberglass and also polyethylene panels are popular albeit flexible). Now I'm thinking everything structural will probably be made with something modular like 80/20, which I didn't know was an option until tonight. Thank you for this video! :)
@pcm44pcm 6 жыл бұрын
You are the second person that I have seen using extruded aluminum to do a van built. Everyone else is using wood. I am thinking of using aluminum as well because of the weight saving/mileage gain. I am looking forward to seeing more of your built.
@LJ3GTVR4 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I just purchased a 2009 Sprinter 3500 extended high-top passenger van for the purpose of converting to a camper van. I haven't started yet until I review ideas and final plans. This has got to be the best idea I've seen yet and I'm going with it. Keep the videos coming!
@web3036 5 жыл бұрын
I've been a contractor for 30 years and you did an awesome job.....luv the effort brother.....
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate the complement!
@Sig721Tau 5 жыл бұрын
@@ourkaravan So, you bought a product from Fastenal, cut it, did not like the finish on it, and returned it hoping to be refunded? Nice camper van build so far. Please, speak up next time. Thanks!
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, I ordered it and at the time of pick up it was the wrong product in both color and profile. I wouldn't have paid for it had I known, but I didn't open the box until I got it inside the van 2 minutes later.
@DaDavidVids 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for thinking outside the box. I'd seen something like this done in a professional camper so I searched and found your video on how to do it, essentially. Your battery box is so clean and tight. Exactly what I was looking for to build my truck camper. Liked and subscribed.
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful, and thanks for taking the time to comment!
@neilgooge 3 жыл бұрын
been going back and forth between wood and aluminium framing, and really couldn't decide and then you said... "i'm really not great with woodworking" and I thought "hmmmm good point" and my decision was made... thanks very much... great content :)
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked working with 80/20, and while it's a different process than working with wood, at least I knew I would end up with a square and strong foundation. I hope you like it too!
@pertybluestang 4 жыл бұрын
It took me a while to click this video because I needed a how this aluminum works video. Had a hard time finding one for an hour until I finally watched this. You had everything I needed to know! Great breakdown!
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
Great glad it was helpful. Good luck and enjoy.
@NeonRex 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a treasure trove of information for the do it yourself-er. Looking forward to seeing the drawers and how you do the slides! Thank you for taking the time to share.
@jobloggs7215 6 жыл бұрын
light and strong, should be more of it. I re-fitted out an entire caravan with 1inch alloy and it lasted well. Was also easy to update design as it's life went on. Thanks for posting video.
@yossman7868 3 жыл бұрын
finally someone who shows the details! much appreciated
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the positive feedback!!
@richard4743 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I eco Yossman;. May I Add, Ourkarvans presentation was spot on, focused details ,close ups,personal experiences, this is one man that should be working for 80/20, l believe that product is an offshore co with a high import tarif.
@RiderVSRoad 6 жыл бұрын
BOOOM! This video just changed everything. I have my current sprinter build out with wood, which I want to change, so I started looking at welding but this - this is so easy and awesome. I will do the same! Thank you so much!
@pinay56 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen the 8020 system before, and I was thinking of building Van furniture (kitchen) using the extruded aluminum. I like that you can adjust the boxes by the twist of a screw to match and build units. Plus, you don't have the weight of wood, but have the strength of metal..
@print4apet207 6 жыл бұрын
Also no wood to rot, warp, etc... wood is horrible for campers, vans etc...
@johnnyandthedude 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job explaining and showing the details of fasteners, cutting and purchasing. Thanks so much you help me make some decision today.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help, thanks for the nice comment!
@MartinWebster555 6 жыл бұрын
Really Impressed with the quality and safety of your build! I appreciate all your research and efforts! Thanks for posting and I can't wait to see what comes next👍🏻
@darrenjones3681 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see this van all finished, some good ideas and it’s quality built
@SallySparks 6 жыл бұрын
Yet again a great video that’s really timely for us, Ken! One comment on your closed cell foam buffer to attach your framing to the van: Our van is at a metalworkers shop right now. We’re having him construct a support from for a platform bed. It’s going to be steel angle iron vertical supports attached to the van that will provide the 30” elevation we want for the bed support. We’ll place an aluminum bed frame on top of that. I also had the idea of putting in a foam buffer but Todd advised us not to. He thinks the foam will eventually fail and the attachment will loosen as a result. He thought metal on metal would be more secure.
@FBall-im8ui 6 жыл бұрын
F. Ball 1 second ago Same here intimidated but with some time and thought and searching out videos like this one it is doable. This may help 68" front to back 68" across 2 x24" panels 1x 20 " panel with a 3-4" extension that is 59" That makes up the 3 removable panels for a rare mounted bed. Did you get the same measurements? REPLY
@SallySparks 6 жыл бұрын
I ended up re-installing our bedframe using marine Starboard spacers. You were right about the conductivity. I think the Starboard will hold up.
@SallySparks 6 жыл бұрын
kenetube yes, HDPE. We used it when we lived on a sailboat and loved it. Pricey though. We had a few scraps and put them to use here.
@douglasguenzel3841 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen many systems specifically for Jeeps and cringe when I see the price tag! Plus, it is not "quite" what I want and I don't want to pay for that. This exceptionally well done and THANK YOU for a link to the material sources......
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Some day the pre-packaged units will offer more flexibility and capacity for a reasonable price. They aren't there yet, hence the reason I went the Diy route. Good luck with your build-out!
@surfk9836 5 жыл бұрын
Check out 80 catalog. For the sharp 3 rail corners they have a rounded 3 way connector and a rail that is rounded too. It doesn't seem too hard to upgrade.
@claycassin8437 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up about Fastenal's poor customer service...that is one of the major lessons I have taken from this. I will not give them my business.
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the worst customer service experience I’ve had, bar none.
@babaganoosh1969 5 жыл бұрын
Great choice..it will not rot or rust..very light weight and strong..gives me a idea for a tube in tube sliding bed for my rv
@SKWDMDYT 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job and documentation. I assume when its all finished that will be a fairly expensive cabinet. I remembered pricing 80/20 and T-slots, after reading Orton's blog, and being blown away by the cost.
@phillycheesification 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video I was planning on using wood for my galley. but now I will definitely consider this system. Battery box also looks very nice
@fibranijevidra 6 жыл бұрын
I really like the extrusions. I would go with one if building an offroad vehicle as it makes all really strong, but for regular van, it is maybe bit overkill. I am sure you could build it lighter than that.
@mestallbaumer 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job! I'm interested to see how the drawers turn out.
@Spicymuffin 2 жыл бұрын
You have helped me make a final build decision, your a great help thanks
@ourkaravan 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, glad you found it helpful!
@denniss8644 6 жыл бұрын
Love the video and love this idea, thanks for posting it. I imagine that it also provides a weight-savings over wood and that can only help the gas mileage
@denimacaz 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was such a helpful video! Thanks so much, I feel both inspired and empowered to tackle by project!
@stagman4611 6 жыл бұрын
At the moment I'm getting the materials together to do my van (which is on order at the moment) For the drawer slides I've got the server rack slides as they will take the weight I've also got the water tanks and solar panels etc. I was looking at wood prices and what would be strong enough 😳 never gave 80/20 a thought well done looks great 👍🏼
@print4apet207 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone get it, I am burnt on seeing so many people building interiors out of wood, so many reasons why it is horrible to do. Also using this, as well as lizardskin ceramic spray in for insulation instead of reflectix stuff. anyhow great build !!! If ya ever want affordable USA made bumpers or rack, keep an eye on vandogceo I will have a line coming called RenicBuilt we are launching early next year, should be half of aluminess....
@print4apet207 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is more short term, but long not at all. Been doing alloy stuff for ages and dig it.. the drawers you did came out slick as well, nice work !
@jodyk4949 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge about 80/20. Look forward to your other videos.
@jesuscruz3065 Жыл бұрын
we have fastenal services at my work place. One thing I learned never never never ever ever ever rely on them. always order stuff that's not critical from them otherwise you are in for a big disappointment. I highly recommend MC-master Carr, 99.99% right products, on time, and about the same prices as fastenal. keep in mind both of them are on the pricier spectrum, vs Amazon, but always good to have a plan B. nice built buddy.
@ourkaravan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences. McMaster has been around for a long time, and probably for good reason.
@aclarke9479 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and considered video! Keep em coming.
@wmw752 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks kenetube! You're videos are really helping fill in the knowledge gaps for my own build. I'll be sure to use your product links!
@therugglet 4 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot from your video! I too was looking for a non-wood option and I like how you made your fasteners. Very helpful in my planning for an expedition build galley.
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful; let us know how it goes! I would build with this material again in a heartbeat.
@rominhawk3949 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing "ourkaravan". Excellent topic and presentation. And thanks for letting us know about " 'Fastenall' "; That's horrible considering they cut the wrong profile and color; it's their mistake; pretty outrageous not to want to return it. What a rotten deal. Sorry you experienced it.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not a good business model!
@brightonstoll891 4 жыл бұрын
thanks you for sharing your knowledge of extrusion. I now plan on building my camper from it.
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
I would definitely do it again. Thanks for the comment
@jtheiny 6 жыл бұрын
Always great detailed DIY videos. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the upper cabinets.
@johnravert2377 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanations! Thanks!
@LScott97 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I'm so glad I came across your videos! Excellent! 👍👍👍
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@Vwfan 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Gave me great ideas to rack my Transit Custom out. Hello from England!!
@vraymond108 6 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking of 80/20 myself and you clarified the advantages vs just welding the frames which of course means changes are not as easy to make. I will be interested to see what you do for facing and drawer fronts.
@schpoe123 6 жыл бұрын
wow can't wit to see the finished build... great job
@wql1 6 жыл бұрын
Once again ... awesome update and well thought out!
@ihaveriffs8261 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting product. Thanks for all of the info and links!
@tomiskalmar 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This is exactly what I am going to be using as I was afraid of working with wood, but this looks like playing with Lego. :)
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
It is totally like playing with Legos. I'm a little sad that I'm putting the last of it in the van now. I've really enjoyed working with it.
@tomiskalmar 5 жыл бұрын
ourkaravan Do you have cross members connecting the two opposing sides of the van? I am thinking of making a bed frame out of them width wise. Do you think would a torsion of the van could cause any problems to the aluminium frame? I hope my question makes sense, I don’t know much about these things just something I thought might need to be considered as I would imagine a classic wood frame like that has more give... thanks for your advices and videos!!! Best wishes from the UK!
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Tom, I don't have any 80/20 rigidly mounted from one side to the other, but people are doing just that when they install these steel and aluminum high mount bed frames. I've never heard of any issues. Take care and thanks for the comment!
@tomiskalmar 5 жыл бұрын
ourkaravan thank you!
@tonyraynor2789 6 жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued to know how the sides, cupboards and drawers will be fitted to that framework
@mrbburba 3 жыл бұрын
Looks good! Going do the same to my van.
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, enjoy!
@wargarkaz 5 жыл бұрын
Ive been looking everywhere for a video of camper vans using this. I get salvaged extruded aluminium like this at a factory when some prototype machines are dismantled, i thought it would be best material one can use in a sprinter mini house like that.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
It's great stuff to work with. Welcome to the channel!
@kelvinp7899 6 жыл бұрын
Looks real good. I'm real impress in how strong it looks. I'm not sure where you live but I know Grainger Industrial Supply carrie's it.
@MartinWebster555 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the drawer and door video
@Bra55Monkey 6 жыл бұрын
Really interested to see how the drawers are attached and how you plan to finish the sides.
@scotthilbun6796 6 жыл бұрын
There’s another company called “maker beam” I found on amazon prime that may be a less expensive version of 80/20. Not sure if it’s the same strength. Free prime shipping could be a huge cost savings if the material is the same
@broccolihart1 6 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the info about makerbeam..i somehow knew there was a cheaper alternative to 80/20 out there.
@broccolihart1 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where i might find some of this stuff on craigslist ? What type of products use it besides display cases and clothing racks?
@srwisner 5 жыл бұрын
I have some Makerbeam stuff and I love it, however it is MUCH smaller the stuff he's talking is 1.5" and a little is 1" the Makerbeam is 0.5" which was perfect for the camera and microphone rig I was building but not so much structural stuff like this. Also Makerbeam tends to come in kit form rather than piece by piece @@broccolihart1
@nmartin5551 4 жыл бұрын
I just started your videos. Very much appreciate the info!
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! :)
@larssmithsf 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. This is super helpful
@ChrisOh 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. What Fastenal told you was pure insanity. They messed up and they're not willing to exchange. Good to know.
@Rubi747HVY Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Thanks for making it clear who not to buy from. LOL😂
@ourkaravan Жыл бұрын
You are welcome. :) Since this was posted I've heard plenty of other horror stories about Fastenal.
@jimthvac100 5 жыл бұрын
The aluminum frame you use I looked it up and all the parts to build a cabinet is quite expensive. I can only imagine they would be practical to install (money wise) if the manufacture was paying the tab for these videos. It is an awesome product but I doubt most of us could swing it. Can you provide a rough estimate how much all those parts you have installed so far would cost the rest of us? Not knocking anything you have done so far. Great videos and craftsmanship.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
It is more expensive than wood, but it's lighter, much stronger, safer and for a guy like me that isn't a craftsman, it's super easy to work with. I have zero sponsors and have not been paid a dime or given any products to review. So I can say there is no bias in the products I select. As for cost, I have a complete break-down on the cost and weight of the framing here: ourkaravan.com/8020-cost-and-weight/ Thanks for the complements, and good luck with your build.
@AndreasDuessca 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. We are planning to rebuild the kitchen in our vintage Airstream and weight is really important. I may have to replace the existing aluminum framing in the kitchen and this looks like a good alternative. Would love to see how you built the drawers.
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
If you haven't seen it already I have a video on making the drawers as well as finishing-out the rest of the cabinets. I've been really happy working with the extruded aluminum and would do it again. Airstreams are great, seems like a fun project. See my write ups on ourkaravan.com too as I'm able to provide more details (and even plans) there.
@grantshimer8964 4 жыл бұрын
Looks nice
@arvandtiv3937 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! thank you for all the info!
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, thank you!
@lass-inangeles7564 5 жыл бұрын
Music and human voice absolutely don't mix, esp for DIY demos. Please no music! Your voice is soothing and soft. It is enough. FYI - 2 ads before video begins is too much. This is a beautifully constructed cabinet carcass! I was looking for a demo on this material. This other engineer had built his whole van with 80/20 extruded aluminum channels. He put in a grid on the floor too, like your Sprinter floor grooved channel. This way, all his cabinets attached to the grid on floor, smart! I wonder how you will make the wood doors. If you want to be ultra light, you could use lexan coroplast sheets, or bamboo sheets. 1. How did you cut the aluminum? What saw blade size and type? 2. How did you calculate how much you needed, and which type of channel to get - groove on one side, smooth on 2 sides, etc? Please show us your finished cabinets. I'd love to see how you made them! Excellent build so far on battery box, and cabinets, bravo! Thanks too, for sharing the details on the materials and fixtures.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the complements. I assume you've found the other videos by now that show that cabinet framing skinned in bamboo. I use KZfaq to demonstrate how to build and use my website for more of the detail-oriented things, like how to design, how to order and how to plan your purchases. You can see that here: ourkaravan.com There are several write ups there on working with 80/20 that you should find helpful. Thanks for the feedback on the videos too. The music is necessary to mask things going on in the background that would be very distracting to the video, such as leaf blowers running, my daughter talking in the background, etc. And the two-ad thing drives me crazy, google it and you'll find tons of people complaining. I don't like it at all but don't have any control over it. Welcome to the channel!
@brandonstieg4176 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video , really well done and informative. Thanks for the intel.
@andys623 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I've heard of people making aquarium stands out of 80/20. So you know it has to be strong because water is heavy.
@andys623 6 жыл бұрын
Cool. Would like to the garage when you get to it. I would like to know more about the battery setup. I saw your other video but not sure how everything is setup.
@ethangonzales442 3 жыл бұрын
I like it
@sethriddle7615 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I have been debating whether to pay someone for the aluminum welding work but this should save me a lot of money! Hopefully. One question, any concern about bolting into the body of the van due to conductivity? I noticed Orton's page stating how he was avoiding that by bolting into wood blocks.
@markfromwestcoastwoodcraft7633 5 жыл бұрын
You would get a cleaner finish if you where to terminate the standing extrusion at the countertop and butt the sides to it, eliminating the open end.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you haven't seen the final product.
@brucekaufman5802 4 жыл бұрын
At 5:37 of your video, how do you attach aluminum plate behind the van support arm?? thanks nice job on all your hard and genius work
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, the aluminum plate is nothing more than a rectangular piece of aluminum with a hole drilled in the middle. It's basically just a big washer so if there were an accident the nut wouldn't just pull through the sheetmetal. Let me know if that doesn't make sense. -Ken
@jeremywittman5439 6 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, keep them coming! Wondering why you decided to go with 1.5" instead of 1"? Is the 1" not strong enough for this project? Thanks in advance!
@wakeupandbord 4 жыл бұрын
After ordering both, I'm leaning toward using 1010.... EDIT: Found David Orton advice referenced in vid; "The 15 series extrusions are designed to accept 5/16-18NC carriage bolts. The extrusions come in different weights/ft in the same size. For conversions the lightest series 15 has more than enough strength. The series 15 makes it easier to install panels in the openings. The 15 series has a center hole that is the correct diameter for a 5/16-18NC tap. I have seen the 1" series 10 extrusions used in conversions. The 1 1/2" series 15 appears to be a better choice."
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
@@wakeupandbord I much prefer the 1.5". I have a write up on the subject here: ourkaravan.com/8020-extruded-aluminum-van-cabinets/. I hope that helps! -Ken
@joewalp 2 жыл бұрын
@@ourkaravan Thank you for highlighting the bolt tensile strength issue. I'll probably go with 10 Series 80/20 paired with zinc plated grade 5 or grade 8 steel carriage bolts. Grade 5 ought to suffice because the tensile strength of 1/4" in grade 5 is only about 7% lower than 5/16" in grade 2. However, I may go with grade 8 if its price ends up being similar to grade 5.
@ourkaravan 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good solution. Another option would be to go with anchor fasteners...the strength of those would remove the concerns I have over fastener strength. However those are difficult to mill at home (I have done it.)
@irishlandscapephotography 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a great alternative to wood. You basically build this out first and then do your insulation and vapour barriers? Is that right.
@ourkaravan 2 жыл бұрын
I did insulation before cabinetry, and I actually discussed this in my 5 year van update video I released last week. I’m very pleased with the aluminum framing and would do it again.
@bug512 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please tell us the length of the carriage bolt? The thickness of the aluminum angle? What a great build and attention to detail.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Carriage bolts are 5/16 diameter and 3/4" long. I used 3/16" alum angle for most of my cabinets as they carry a lot of weight, but for lighter duty applications you can use 1/8" as well.
@isaackelley8209 4 жыл бұрын
Love 80-20 just wish it wasn’t so expensive.
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, definitely more expensive. Once you've bought it I doubt you would ever regret it though. I like the phrase "buy once, cry once." :).
@pcthiker5320 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job and great channel! Regarding use of fasteners, have you considered use of Loctite to avoid loosening over time? If so, which grade?
@harryhimpson5663 Жыл бұрын
did you run a earth from the frame to the body aluminum is a conductive
@darbyallie69 6 жыл бұрын
This is great. I just rebuilt a king rv bed frame that put me overweight. What do you think the weight difference is between this and wood of the same size? I used mostly 2x2.
@darbyallie69 6 жыл бұрын
kenetube thanks for the quick response. I wish I had know about this product before. Regardless of the weight it looks so much nicer and along with the flexibility and strength I think I would have used it. Either way it will be part of my next projects. Thanks
@deathuponusalll 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Insta subbed!👍🏽
@PaulKarchut 5 жыл бұрын
Heya! Love what you've done with 80/20 here. I want to build out a bed frame using 80/20 so its really easy to take out if I need the van cargo ready. Any chance I could chat through a parts list with you? I'm overwhelmed by all the fasteners!
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have a ton of free time but go ahead and shoot me an email. There's a contact form on my website ourkaravan.com it's nice to have options but I agree sometimes there are too many.
@joesketchbook 5 жыл бұрын
I am seeing that on amazon the 80/20 is just barely more than the shipping. Do you get a break on shipping from ordering from 80/20 or in bulk on amazon? Thanks so much for these videos. Absolute gold.
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
Take a look at my write up in the van build section of my website, ourkaravan.com. I talk about the best way to order 80/20. Basically, the per unit cost does down as you add to your cart. I have a cut list in that write up too.
@lostgriz 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, thanks for sharing!
@mapleridgenaturopath 6 жыл бұрын
So great... I just tried making a bed frame out of wood for my sprinter build yesterday, but ended up frustrated and going back to the drawing board... I've been a little intimidated with the 80/20 stuff because I've never worked with it before, but this video makes it look like it's do-able! How long did it take you to make that cabinet?
@FBall-im8ui 6 жыл бұрын
Same here intimidated but with some time and thought and searching out videos like this one it is doable. This may help 68" front to back 68" across 2 x24" panels 1x 20 " panel with a 3-4" extension that is 59" That makes up the 3 removable panels for a rare mounted bed.
@mapleridgenaturopath 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like I've got some research and planning to do... Thanks for the feedback!
@mapleridgenaturopath 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have a good resource or link for 80/20 for newbies?
@mapleridgenaturopath 6 жыл бұрын
It would be so great if you did a video of how you are going to attach your paneling / drawers to this stuff! Thanks so much kenetube!
@TheresaTower 6 жыл бұрын
F.Ball...do you have any pics of that?
@wanderlibre4434 3 жыл бұрын
My husband and I are creating our cabinets now with 8020 and using anchor fasteners for the joints (thanks for the suggestion in your videos!). Did you have any problems getting your angles perfectly squared? We're using high quality squares to help make sure that everything is squared when we create the joints, but we're finding that even with these great tools, many of our cabinets are very slightly out of square. We're cutting the 8020 ourselves as well as milling the counter bore holes. Our cut ends are squared, so the only thing I can think of is that it is a result of our milling process for the holes. Just curious if you encountered this problem and if so, if you found a solution to the problem. I'm finding that using 8020 is a bit more difficult than I anticipated! Thanks for your time and thanks for your helpful videos!
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
HI, I have not had that problem but it could be a couple of things. When you are assembling it is possible to bolt it up in a fashion where it's not square. Then when the other end of that profile is bolted up, it can cause it to be out of square too. If the ends of the profiles are cut straight, the misalignment is probably very slight. But precision helps when it comes to drawer slides and making them function smoothly. So when I'm assembling I at least check for square on profiles containing drawer slides. Generally, I don't find it typical to get out of square, but it is possible.
@tomlewis632 4 жыл бұрын
What about using 2 by 2 aluminum screen framing and angle for a lower cost instead of t slotted which is very expensive
@ourkaravan 4 жыл бұрын
With proper engineering it could work. You'd have to find a good way to secure the angle, seems you would have to bolt-through as sheetmetal screws would likely loosen and not be strong.
@tomprevost2477 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if Fastenall is franchised or not. Nice business model though, screw up your order and just say too bad. Thanks for the videos.
@kristinakurcinka8250 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, do you plan to make any upper cabinets out of 80/20? Just wondering if so, if you had any thoughts on how to make that curve that matches the ceiling.
@mojowomyn5760 3 жыл бұрын
I am curious how everything has held up over the last few years. Did traveling wind up rattling the cabinet to pieces?
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
Not a bit. Not a single fastener has loosened on the 80/20 structure but had one countertop bolt loosen.
@Surfingthe805 6 жыл бұрын
I’m curious, if attached to a plywood top, do you think these aluminum rails could form a strong enough structure to make a 3-panel platform bed?
@jkidd39 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the sliders in the floor for your seats?? Love the video. Great info.
@Crutchley-Mack 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I'm considering using 20x20 aluminium extrusion. Do you think these will be strong enough?
@BruceLemieux 6 жыл бұрын
Great info - thanks Ken. You used the 1.5" profile. Did you consider the 1"? Seems like the 1" may be plenty strong, save some weight and some money... not sure if there are other cons (other than it might not be strong enough).
@honeniheixiu8119 5 жыл бұрын
If I can take a guess, the aluminum material total will cost 2-3 times more than wood? It sure is great looking and lighter weight
@ourkaravan 5 жыл бұрын
I suspect that is about right. I was able to save time versus working with wood.
@markman63 5 жыл бұрын
In the long run you will make the extra cost back with fuel savings
@tptwk 6 жыл бұрын
Love your build. Sorry to go back in time but I have a question about the 80/20 bars. Do you know if they would be strong enough to span the width of the van for a queen bed?
@kristinakurcinka8250 6 жыл бұрын
Love following all your videos. Curious how you ended up finishing the sides of your galley? Did you put wood in the slots or on the outside?
@stevenmehltretter429 6 жыл бұрын
Super nice build. What was the total cost investment?
@peterpheap4789 3 жыл бұрын
How did you secure the front of the galley to the floors? Glue? Drill through sheet metal? or just secured to the subfloor without drilling all the way through? Thanks!
@ourkaravan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m using two of the factory floor tie downs through angle brackets that are attached to the framing. Each of the rear legs are bolted through the sidewall of the van, top and bottom.
@FBall-im8ui 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Ken, Aluminium Extrusions. There are several companies offering this material. I wanted to let you know where to buy som much less cost than 80/20 especially for you with USA funds. If I mention it ti soul mean that there would not be an attachment to Amazon. For my first quote it was 25% less than 80/20 and for you it would also be 30% on top of that because the supplier is in Canada. Let me know if you want me to list the name. I wanted to try and pay you back for your time with this information.
@FBall-im8ui 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ken, The company I wanted to let yo know about od Faztek in Montreal, supper low prices compared to the quote I got from online.fliphtml5.com/albo/etve/#p=19 www.faztek.ca/fr/ I priced out a (3 piece)bed frame and it was $876 from 80/20 and $515 from Faztek with their fasteners. My Build, I started it myself and Then i met someone who is starting a Van conversion company. We had agreed to do my Van to start off and in return i have been refering clients tp him. i should receive my parts by next week and se e if he is ready to start otherwise i'll do it myself. u shaped bulkhead in the rear, f]batteries, heater water in the rear, 3 panel bed frame up front is a two seat bench, kitchenette, summitappliance.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/fsi/product_image/image/11507/large_C48ESG_Front.jpg I'll send photos when working on it or done, Thanks d
@tmotten 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a structural reason why you went with 1.5"? I'm thinking of going with 1" myself.
@tmotten 6 жыл бұрын
kenetube how did the bolts break?
@tmotten 6 жыл бұрын
kenetube ok. I'm convinced. What length carriage bolt do you need?
@nurscathwill 6 жыл бұрын
Could I use this to make a new storage compartment to replace one that was removed by previous owner? The box that is usually on the underside of rv that you gain entrance by opening with a key the door from body of rv.
@nurscathwill 6 жыл бұрын
kenetube thanks!
@pinay56 6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you order directly from 8020? Also did you consider using their "Quick Frame" extruded Aluminum. Its even cheaper than the 1x1 inch corrugated aluminum extrusions from 8020....
@FBall-im8ui 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Cameron, kenetube heps so many people because he has done the leg work, like research, the least we can all do is return the favour by ordering through his connection with Amazon. That will help him a bit. That is what I am going to do. Hope this helps clarify why ordering through him helps his efforts. Thanks and goo luck if you are doing your own build.
@themoabpearl5711 Жыл бұрын
I love this galley, could I order it in the 10 series? I only have 58"!
@ourkaravan Жыл бұрын
Please reach out to me via the contact form on my website, ourkaravan.com We can easily shorten the cabinet by 1/2" to accommodate you, and we can have a discussion on why we use 15-series and not 10-series. -Ken
@chrisdavies-kiwi 2 жыл бұрын
Really like this - thanks for the video. What was the rough cost price for the 80/20 on this galley project?
@ourkaravan 2 жыл бұрын
The price of materials has gone up so I’ll need to recalculate and update the article. We do offer this in kit form, pre cut with all fasteners and ready to assemble with no markup. There’s a write up on ourkaravan.com about that option as well.
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