Wow. You’re not wrong. LOADS of them turned up along with a shocking number of military aviation analysts and aerodynamicists. I learned so much as, I suspect, did the display pilot in the video. He got served.

Just like the hundreds of Navy Seals I've met 😂🤣😂🤣

Best comment I've read in a long while.

Bahahahahah

May day .May day this is booger .Where is the nearest wendys Tower do you copy booger this the tower be advised landing is not good .

As a former TACP, I approve this message.

can you tell me what that smoke that comes out of the plane is supposed to do?

@@veerrohilla3513 my understanding is that the air rushing over the plane is at such low pressure the moisture in the air comes out, into a water vapour that we can see, similar to a cloud in some ways. Not an expert so happy to be corrected 👍

The highlights of my USMC service always had something to do with jets, helicopters, and big explosions.

i did 4 tours in Black Ops. Salute soldier.

They have a positive thrust to weight ratio so it can accelerate at a 90 degree angle. It could hover at a vertical position if it wanted to

I saw an F18 super hornet do this in a flight show just yesterday. Was cool to see the pilot waving through binoculars

The name of the Maneuver is called the high Alfa pass it’s a 90 degree angle I believe

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9Oinc2crtO1YXU.html - Called a high Alpha. 45-to-70-degree angle of attack

high alpha is called

Nah the real horror is the missile you cant see coming from under the deck

The scary part is that you'd never see it coming.

@@mego7389 In a large scale world war scenario you would most certainly have stealth fighters merging. Theres just to many missions to fly and to many aircraft to account for. These guys would also be sent to engage enemies who managed to jump their less stealthy brothers.

What's terrifying is watching your flight lead disintegrate with a clean radar

@@TexasGreed that's not what he meant

How would you know if you can't see the stick operator? You can't tell me your looking at the control surfaces and saying that.

@@GabeGettinRich they're looking at the angle of attack and yaw slip, as they said the body direction (nose position), nothing to do with the inputs

That’s thrust vectoring for ya

@@PuffPuffPassTheJenkem F-22 barely uses TV. The primary use for the nozzles is heat dispersal.

@@katherineberger6329 they don’t use it normally but when showing off maneuverability it definitely uses thrust vectoring. Though unlike most TV fighters It can’t TV laterally, only longitudinally

It would be awesome. But the cost of your ticket would not be awesome 😆

@@canebrakeruffian1122 i went to a thunderbirds airshow yesterday and it was free

A good pilot in an F16 will beat a mediocre pilot in an F22 in a dog fight.. An F16 can still pull 9 G turns.. At that point it really comes down to the pilot.

@@rogerthat4545 wtf does this have anything to do with f22’s for an air show?

@@rogerthat4545 The F22 can theoretically pull 11gs, but the pilot couldn't withstand that. The F22 pilot could do what the F16 pilot could do an better. The f22 has better instantaneous turn rate of over 30 degrees, and a better sustained turn rate of around 28 degrees, the F16 maybe 20 degrees on a good day.

can confirm it is definitely one of the fighter jets ever made

Yeah definitely one of the created jets.

Ah yes the f-22, like the f-16 , ultimately, was one of the fighters ever made in the history of aviation

In all of the history, in fact. It was one type made, definitely

By people. Don't forget by people. It was one made by people. Ever.

Watch those tail flaps & wing flaps during the falling leaf! Awesome 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

I can watch those flaps on the tarmac during preflight

I would have like to see falling leaf from a zoomed out view. Would show the maneuver better.

@@MrBigR928 Would I be wrong to think that thrust vectoring is in play?

You want them to do what exactly, paint a background on the sky for you?

I was gonna say that was definitely a pit viper maneuver not a cobra maneuver. Didn't even resemble a cobra

I’m with you there.

yep, it would basically be looking up but not moving up

Its more like a python

It's not even close to a cobra maneuver, it's just a climb and an horizontal fix with thrust vectoring help. Who posted the video have no clue at all about it.

Of course when maneuvers are fake.

This.

Same, bro, same

Context? Or reference?

thanks for the insight, maverick

yes its cause its barely a leaf fall and thats not a cobra, f22 is not as maneuverable as sukhoi

@@ariqrachmannbl Su-57 fleet consists of only three aircraft, excluding the prototypes. Its stupid claim such a thing. If we (the US) only had a requirement for a few planes then we could build a few planes that fly you to the fuckin moon. But an operational fleet of 200 is a different story. Also, this video is DCS I think

@@Kenneth_James no this video is real and i never said anything about su 57, factually sukhoi is better at maneuver, if its a car f22 is a fast drag car but the sukhoi is a rapid track car theyre both good in their own way, and the f22 is retired already, thats why you need to learn how the world works the su57 only exist 6 unit not 3 why only 6 if its good? cause the cost building it isnt efficient 1 su57 equals 4 su35 in terms of cost and time it took to build and maintaining it which the most important thing and 1 su57 cannot outperformed 4 su35, why bother making it as a fleet? same with f22 its too expensive and hard to maintain thats why they retiring it instead f35 which is not better in terms of air superiority but better option cause of cost because its cheaper you kid need to learn economy not just flying air planes

@@ariqrachmannbl a million comedians out of work and you trying to be funny. Bet you get your info from a decoder ring. 🤣🤣

@@TRM83 The USAF wants to start retiring the F-22 Raptor beginning 2020 and 0 will operate in 2030 mainly due to the F-22’s high operating costs thats the information straight from USAF cost is everything thats why people like you never work as a government officer

I saw an F-35 in flight for the first time the other day and couldn’t believe how it manoeuvres - especially because it doesn’t use thrust vectoring!

And far fewer accidents than the controversial V-22.

The frame is made of titanium and major welds are done by laser.

That’s not even close on damaging the airframe. It can handle 9g truly fine.

Do other fighter aircraft have worse integrity do they bend slightly or something I’m very new to aircraft in general so I honestly don’t even understand what I’m looking for when people say thing’s 😂

@@Matte_Val all craft bend and flex when under load. Ships, cars, airplanes, bicycles and etc. The question is do they bend beyond their elastic range which is what determines maximum load so that the vehicle returns to its original shape. Beyond that you get plastic deformation which means it will not return to its original shape and can mean it is damaged.

Jet

Wrong

Wrong

@@Doksamauru no not really.

@@seekerpro486 actually you all are wrong

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Wow f22 can did falling leaf n cobra.. u called s35 n t50pf doin cobra by its nimble n hard to pointed back her nose. I think cobra is just for entertaining. Nobody will doin that on real airforce patrol or even escort. They must be attached with fueltank n many western longairtoair missile

@@bazzhm1447 kid. Firstly... No the cobra can be used in actual dogfights. Just search it up... Secondly... go back to ya class. If your grammars is that bad then you shouldn’t be on the internet. Trust me

Stupid maneuver anyway. All that'll get you is shot to pieces by the other guy's wingman.

@@bazzhm1447 cobra is used in dogfights, a Sukhoi can go from your 12 to 6 in no time

hahaha...

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I dont know if I should say thus or not, but its for when they perform them

@Alain C. that’s because it wasn’t a cobra maneuver at all… It was just a vertical climb.

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I rent Cessna 150s and 172s, they're basically the same thing. aerodynamic laws don't change. I freely impart my knowledge in the comment section and everyone is better for it. you're welcome. I'll be here if for any deeper insights.

@The Kansas Jayhawk Mizzou Tigers Rule!!

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Actually it's just the opposite, the less stable a fighter jet is, the more maneuverable & hard radical moves you can make.

@@mikejacobs2886 don’t confuse the poor guy. I know you’re right, but he means they look stable, and just so you know, Deon, the reason they are so controlled is because a computer takes the inputs the pilot gives and makes it happen so that the planes are as maneuverable as one that is unstable yet more stable than one that is

@@po1ly414 yeah sorry bout that, I worked on the flight deck for 10 years and learned alot. Fly by wire has saved many an aviators ass by the computer saying: look, I know you want to hard right and pull max Gs, but that will rip the stabilers off. So I'll give you 5.5Gs instead of the 9 you wanted. Me, you and the ol' man on the bridge, we'll all live and be happy. Your dismissed now 😂

@@po1ly414 Have you seen this? This is a great example of a pilot in GLOC and IBM saved his ass. And he was at 8.4 Gs banking a little too hard. Our Technology is the best in the civilized world. That's why Russia & China routinely shoplift from us.

do it you should you can

That move had the same effect on millions back in 86. Jocko willenick did an interview with an ex marine/navy/top gun grad/instructor who was inspired by the 86 film, and was an advisor for the new one.

@@indianmarshmello. yeaaa thanks bro

My entire plan is that if the doctor thing doesn’t work out for me turn around and join the navy and try to become an aviator

I wanna be a pilot too. F35.

Exactly

indeed

You literally have zero point of reference. It could have gained 0ft. It could have gained 2000ft. You have no way to tell. Good luck with that inferiority complex.

Meanwhile you gained attitude

Oh no my jet is too maneuverable, I can't do a "real" cobra oh whatever will I do

You are right sir finally someone who knows stuff its a High AOA pull. Corbra is done by Su27/35 or by SAAB 35 Draken. Where the planes keeps its flight path going forward and pitching up at the same time without climbing.

@@123fockewolf the Draken is honestly one of the coolest looking planes of its time

Meaningless semantic

@@jonathanpfeffer3716 A meaningless semantic to you maybe, but not to the designers of the aircraft. The idea of our fighters having supermaneuerablility was a huge topic of debate in the design of this aircraft specifically. Every potential maneuver in bfm was weighed against feasibility vs. cost to other potential systems upsides. It was eventually deemed that the cobra maneuver has little to no actual combat usability in today's arenas, so was not designed for.

Russian aircraft have master this movements so good they experts at it

It’s not real lol. Just a clip recorded in Arma 3 or Flight simulator.

I know nothing about avionics but love to watch it in action. But can you tell me, is the falling leaf have a tactical advantage or is it more about showing control of the plane? Or something else?

@@lancearnold8251 good question. Let me start with an analogy to lay out the underlying dynamic. A fixed wing airplane is similar to water skiing. It is too heavy to float so it needs some forward speed in order to get flow around the wings so it can glide. At rest you are sunk in the water, at low speed you are mushing around, not quite sunk but flopping around a bit and then at a certain speed you rise up all the way out of the water and glide on top of it. The wings of an airplane act similar to the way water skis plane on top of the water, although they also use Bernoulli's Principle to create low pressure on top of the wing to really power the effect, but that's more complicated. What we really care about here, is the fact that when an airplane gets too slow, it stops skiing and starts sinking. Thats called a "stall". It means the airflow around the wing stalled and can't hold the plane up anymore. It does NOT mean the engine stalled. Because you are coming up from high speed on takeoff, and you have to slow down to land, at the critical points of takeoff and landing you are naturally around the stall speed. So you have to practice slow flight, in that mushy zone. You need to know how to fly mushy, and maybe more importantly, you need to know how to manage a stall. If you are turning when you stall, you are likely to enter a spin. If you are flying straight ahead when you stall, most planes are designed to drop the nose first for a while before they spin. No matter the attitude, you start falling down. In the old days, everyone practiced stalling the airplane, and then spin recovery. It sounds dangerous but it was a common skill to practice. Nowadays, spin practice isn't required. Falling leaf is a kind of an in-between spin. I did most of my primary flight training in a Piper Cub, and in that particular design you can hold the nose up as you stall, as opposed to a full spin, where the nose dives. In a Falling Leaf, the instructor controls the stick and the throttle. They reduce speed until stall, and pull the stick back all the way, nose up. All you get to use is the pedals that control the rudder. You come up into a little mini Cobra maneuver and then fall straight down. As you do, the plane starts to rock around its longitudinal axis, with one wing or another dropping. Counterintuitively, you don't use the stick to fix it, which is normally the right control to rock the wings. But doing so will snap you into a spin. So you use the rudder instead. This exercise teaches you to break your normal training and instinct because that will put you into a spin or make it worse. It's a training step before spin training. The end result is you are falling out of the sky like a rock, nose up, and your wings keep rocking as if they were flapping, coming around so far that sometimes you are nearly upside down. It's exciting. Let me know if you need anything explained more thoroughly.

You mean 10's of thousands.

Mostly American military shills

I qualify as a fighter pilot as i have clocked in thousands of hours playing Ace Combat, don't argue with me.

@@denzelpardillo1181 guess what, i got 1500H of playing AC

@@thenasiudk1337 I saw somebody on a chat say they wore out 14 thrustmaster HOTAS joysticks playing Star Citizen, and they claimed they were registered as the best Star Citizen pilot in the world (actually, that would make it in the known universe).

Stabilators, airliners have elevators

Yeah, the only aircraft you will see with stabilators are those if which can reach Mach 1

Bite me

Nosal vectoring? Really? Nosal isn't even a word and there are no thrusters on the front. All change happens at the rear. Please note that a vector and vectoring are different things

Pretty sure he just meant nozzle

@@MHM4V3R1CK A nosal nozzle? 😂😂😂😂

Hey don't underestimate Microsoft flight simulator

Thats a cobra buddy

@@elitewavez4768 This example is too slow and not as sharp. I've seen the blue angels do it better.

Not the Cobra

I agree

This was a cobra I believe your thinking of a kullbit

Agreed I seen This Do a Mock Combat AT Tyndall AFB, Fla. I believe it was when the 95th FS Was reactivated in 2013

They had it simulate a fight with 5 f-15's

That's because the entire body of the F-22 is a lifting surface unlike your private aircraft .

2 engines putting out 35,000 lbs of thrust in a dry weight 31,000lb aircraft will start production lift pretty quickly.

I dunno if that's a question or just an observation. The F-22 is a stealth plane, so if you *hear* it, it's probably not in performance mode. Also, the aerodynamics were designed to maximize agility, so it needs to have a computer to stay in the air and to interpret what the pilot wants. Given that capability, if you go from an old F-16 to an F-22, the fly by wire, can seem like fly by magic, given the responsiveness. And, you can get a feel for this on the ground: Drive an average car, then drive a rack and pinion car, then test drive a Tesla. That will give you the Wow! factor of difference. All of those should be accessible to most people, and you don't even need to try a Porche or Ferrarri. ;-)

@@hanksimon1023 where’s the button for performance mode?! Stealth capability is based off how’s there’s only 2 hard corners on the body of the jet and the paint that’s used on it to absorb radar. The engines make noise all the time, they don’t get quiet if they want to be “stealth.”

@@DillonG1435 OK. You sound knowledgeable about modern stealth.

Bro I’ve literally seen the US Air Force F-22 demonstration team do the cobra before lol

@@CarburetorThompson As said before, the F22 is incapable of doing the cobra. Only very few aircraft are actually capable of it, to name a few the Mig 29 and the J35 Draken. I believe there are also one or two Sukhois that can do it, but that's that. You can look up "pukachevs cobra" on youtube and can see what it actually is. I am rather certain it is not what those F22s did.

my uncle Brian knows you ?

@@davetommy351 I have never met a Brian ?

@@Sir_Cactus It was at an air show so it wasn’t a high speed combat maneuver, it was a stunt for show. the F-22 was going slow relative to its top speed. A plane may not be able to practically preform the maneuver in a combat scenario but that doesn’t mean it can’t do it in any situation. The plane did it for 2/3s the length of the runway without gaining any altitude like you said. I just looked at my phone, I tried to take a picture but all I got was the head of the bald man in front of me.

I watch su35 doin the same , just a little hard to point nose , nimble. F22 doin great at the top cobra maneuver

@@bazzhm1447 thats a 90 degrees climb bud... not a cobra

@@bazzhm1447 : how about watch SU-30, SU-33 or SU-57 ? did you ever watch that jet doing cobra maneuver. and that was climbing on F-22 not do any type of cobra maneuver

Its a high alpha test in usa. And kord parad in swedish sky.

@@bazzhm1447 But the F-22 can’t really do a cobra since the FCS doesn’t allow extreme enough angles of attack for a prolonged time to actually do a cobra. The design of the raptor also impedes this cause it generates so much lift. From what is seen in this video we can deduce that the F-22 does at max around 30-45 AoA for less than a second in comparison of the 90º+ AoA for a few seconds required to do a cobra.

Yeah, you were not seeing Cobra Maneuvers in the 1960's at airshows...

@@vvrathhps I have seen a Hawker Hunter do the 60s equivalent of falling leaf. The Lightning beat up’s were at Farnborough well OK beat up’s aren’t current airplane nomenclature.

Got give them a discount for not knowing how to properly handle thrust vectoring, that thing doesn't have control surfaces to fly backwards like Russian fighters do when performing a cobra.

can you tell me what that smoke that comes out of the plane is supposed to do?

@@pmnichols10 They wpuld figure it out if they wanted to, but personally I see no point in a fighter jet that can fly backwards upside dpwn spinning at 50 000 rpm

he dint maintain his flight path and just did a slow climb. su-57 exceeds 90 degrees turn while maintaining the flight path

the falling leaf was also just a slow turn. not a falling leaf maneuver at all

A-10 is way over hyped. I like the idea of the A-10, build a plane around a gun. The technology, put into the a-10 is archaic

Coolest of the us jets I agree

The A-10 doesn't belong bud. The plane is ass. The gun it's attached to is the real Innovation.

@@FuttBuckerByMutt the a-10 has killed 900 tanks, 2500 armored vehicles, and 1200 artillery pieces. Aswell as flying over 8000 combat sorties with 5 total a10 losses. This is literally one of the most destructive planes of all time(that only uses conventional warfare, leave out the planes that dropped the nukes)

@@ChefofWar33 look at my other response and tell me it's ass again

We're so proud 👏

1:05 was definitely a cobra

@@austin3600 no. he just pulled the stick back. a cobra would be the plane facing vertically while only moving horizontally. at 1:05 the plane was facing vertically and moving vertically. not a cobra in the slightest.

@@zacharybaker770 Are you a pilot

@@agentrabbit186 no

Bruh it didn't do a cobra💀💀💀💀 deadass

@@random-b-i2480 it can so it doesn’t matter

Su-57 is capable of doing g it, and it has vertical thrust vectoring

The su 57 is capable of the cobra and more

@@jujust2194 it can’t be produced in great numbers by broke Russia though 😹

hu uh, yeup.

😂 right. Maybe US should take lessons from Russia

@@oncesavedalwayssaved495 и так взяли когда ф35 делали

@@oncesavedalwayssaved495 Actually, the russians are the reason why the F-22 exists so yeah.

@@oncesavedalwayssaved495 the cobra maneuver is useless in combat. its only ever useful for airshows as in combat it causes you to lose too much speed.

It's great because all of that combined, and also because it's an American plane. We're awesome, no two ways about it.

That’s what it should have been. It was exponentially better.

@@Beer-can_full_of_toes alright calm down lol

@@abel_underwater I was calm. Now you have me questioning myself.

@@Beer-can_full_of_toes lol, I’m sorry. I’m just a huge F22 fanboy, won’t even deny it, so sometimes I let my fandom get the best of me😔 love from Russia

@@abel_underwater lol no worries. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However wrong it may be lol. Kidding aside, my dad worked on the SR-71 in the late 60s so he may have seen your parents house at some point as he was the one who worked with the camera after missions. I hope times improve again between our governments.

Real life version: hit the breaks and you become a nice stable target for a machine gun.

@@rinzler9775 More cannons on planes than machineguns but yea. Get nice and slow and you give the enemy free target practice

@Daddy O Didn’t Charlie Sheen pull that maneuver in Hot Shots?

@@dr.jamesolack8504 Not sure never saw it but I know Hot Shots spoofed the Top Gun movie so probably but if so they were just making fun of Top Gun.

The F-22 is not designed to be as "aerodynamic" as the F-18, it was designed to be much more maneuverable, so it 'breaks' some rules of aerodynamics, then 'fixes' them by having a computer that can compensate. Lots of 'learning situations' can be recovered from, when you have a computer as your co-pilot that fixes things before you realize the errors of your ways.

My man must have had that FCS disabled during his hornet flight in riat 2019.

Lazy cobra

It's just that the computer inside the F-22 doesn't allow it. Just imagine the stress it would put on the airframe if it did. It would take tens of thousands of dollars to repair the plane just for an airshow.

There were 195 F-22s built, around 180 of which are still flying.

Then isn't it just a controlled fall

They are called afterburners and it makes the jets go there max speed but it drains more fuel, without afterburners jets are a little sluggish and fly slower.

A pilot can activate it at anytime

… the compressor has to have its own power, remembering that jet engines work based on airflow, afterburner is when fuel is dispersed into the exhaust, which does to a degree create negative pressure inducing compressor movement, but theres alot to these systems, so it could have a ramjet principle, it could have an adjustable bypass or even a compressed air compensator in cases where the intakes are not supplying air at the necessary rates for thrust, but the flame-out can be controlled by a simple auto ignition, the worst thing to deal with would be latent heat that comes with burning fuel without adequate airflow, the bunsen burner section could easily oxidise if exposed too long sacrificing its service time. But im just a refrigeration engineer, i could be wrong.

@@f1reguy587 The F-22 uses 2 Pratt and Whitney F-119 turbojet engines which are low-bypass. The bypass air is normally mixed with the exhaust before it comes out of the aircraft in order to reduce its IR signature, but it can also be used for the afterburner.

Same for me too

Well, when I designed it that’s exactly the kind of flying experience I wanted to create for you………..Pilots…..😏

1:06 thats cobra with stiff head n very controllable point nose.

@@bazzhm1447 not full on. It just is doing a high aoa. I saw it pull up and not go up. And I saw a kulbit

@@bazzhm1447 if you call that a cobra then i must be fucking god :/

Kort Parad = original

@@Milky_Nguyen he is not talking about the video are you literally blind enough not to have seen that? Then just afterwards he says ‘but can never find one on KZfaq.’ How about you read the full comment and don’t just instantly start raging at anyone who says the the raptor can do a cobra