Whoever has been doing the thumbnails on these videos, good job!

P.S. This run is out of order in the playlist, it should play after SM 0% but instead got slotted after Kirby's Adventure. Love the work you guys are doing!

Wilburgur I love you

*bouncing*

just casually reaching 10,000 km/h, aka Mach 8

And that's on the slowest track, yeah.

If only SSB would go that fast

Woodpeckers withstand 1200 G's. With a bit of tech, i think humans will find a way to build F-Zero.

i thought he was a falcon

HUMM DUDE... IM SORRY TO INTRUDE BUT YOU ARE TOTALLY WORNG... I DID A 1 SECOND CALCULATION AND THE VEHICLE IS ACTUALLY NOT MOVING ITS THE ENVIROMENT THAT MOVES TOWARDS IT.... SO THERE FORE ITS NOT PULLING A SINGLE G FORCE ON IT... CHEERS

Hence the "G-Diffusion" system found on Arwings and F-Zero race cars.

Lutyano Alves Woodpeckers only experience that force when they slam their heads into a tree- they only experience this briefly, as oppposed to a constant a 189g pressure. In addition, they have evolved to be able to withstand this force. Humans have not evolved to withstand 189g. Also, this entire section is wrong since speed /=/ g-force. Acceleration = g-force.

😂

Im just curious in what circumstance would you search that

@MageBurger I see

more like f-zero on _s p e e d_

It is in GX also since there are death triggers if you go too far off the track, but I guess the people who make the TAS' found away around them.

​@@DrewPicklesTheDarkthere are little checkpoints in the track that are invisible planes. if you cross one but didnt cross the one before it you explode. flying runs carefully go through the edges of the checkpoints to cross all of them otherwise the minimum time would just be how fast the maximum dragon can spacefly around the finish line 3 times.

He doesn drincc beer only grape juice;

@@lutyanoalves444 no he drinks Falcon Punch!

Maybe I have a condition uuuuuhhhhh check your privilege.

DID I JUST HEAR SOMEONE USE A MICROAGRESSION?

Arc Ray I mean, this is true in regular F-Zero GX gameplay too. Same with gravity.

its just a funny statement to quote it regards to a "logical" reality, its not exactly normal to phase through a wall as if it wasnt there.

Arc Ray well I mean in regular gameplay often the tracks send you either over the wall, or if you lift off the track you flip and fall up to your death. It's just that the quote is especially apt in this particular game

Same thing applies for most video games Arc Ray

CAN YALL JUST LAUGH AT THE QUOtE?

At the very least, all the old F-zeroes should be remade in a modern or pseudo-modern style. However, we get abundant yet minor tweaks to the Mario formula, not necessarily "better" but despite the lack of significant changes, they keep pumping them out regardless. More and more characters added to each Smash Bros. is not really altering much in the core gameplay; how much "better" is each new game really? Why not get variations of these types for F-zero? Just because the change isn't MAJOR, as alleged by Nintendo, doesn't mean we don't deserve tweaks or variations on the existing formula. Since they never try, how do we know what can or can't be done with F-zero anymore? Finally, if they can constantly tweak the Mario Kart formula with non-kart vehicles being the only big change, then they have no excuse to hold back potential Fzero material that many fans would appreciate just as much like the plethora of inconsequential changes in these other series. I sure would!

Video encoders have trouble with things moving fast. Most game engines (especially those designed for going fast, like any F-Zero game) don't struggle with that. This is nothing special.

Sega actually made F-Zero GX, and it was done in Super Monkey Ball's engine. Fun fact!

They actually genuinely couldn't even at the time,they even asked the source code to amusement vision to understand how tf they did this in the game lol

@@StaszGonyon it's no secret to anyone that Nintendo loves to contradict itself lol They only said that "we can't innovate f zero" bs just to not say the real reason to not make a new f zero,Witch was "yeah it doesn't sell as well as Mario kart so we don't care"

Which is to say, that was GDQ's unmodified Gamecube and an original disc. We made no internal modifications to the hardware and the only things we did were insert memory cards and controller devices.

I do believe that evertime123 tried to make a lewd joke. The TAS was amazing, great job!

dwangoAC do you have anywhere where you explain more of the science behind these tas exploits/adventures?

This realistic background footage is jarring and unnecessary

I'm assuming you can't get a save like that without modifying it on a computer ?

Disc-based systems are a challenge because we can't deterministically predict how long it will take to read data off a spinning optical disc. The method using the GBA and listening for hooks from the game on when the level starts combined with the unique game engine F-Zero GX uses made true console verification possible. I'll be providing more info on my next Twitch stream at twitch.tv/dwangoAC if you're interested.

dwangoAC Thanks, I understand now. I always look forward to Tasblock. Thanks for stopping by the comments 👍🏾

that the given inputs with an emulator are possible and doable with a console. Though I'm not entirely sure if that's exactly what they mean.

m e When playing a disc game, you can't predict when the game will start. Because of that, it's hard to do a good TAS. For instance, if you start accelerating after 5 seconds, you might be early because the game loaded in 3 ... Or too early if the game loaded in 7. In either case, the TAS won't work. The main difference here with the GBA is that the GBA is waiting for cues of the game to start driving. The TAS will be OK whatever the time it takes to load. Theres 2 implications : - 1 : you could do a TAS that works online. A bot that start driving exactly when all player are loaded in. - 2 : you can do an AI that 'see' what happens and react accordingly (think fighting games).

Thanks for explaining...your team deserves a lot of credit! I don't know if an average person knows how much work it takes to run your own code on these systems, let alone the disc based breakthrough. As a gamer, I appreciate the hell out of these exploits.

I agree

JustinsaneS222 I see what you did there

thank you for acknowledging my witty comment. My life now has no regrets :D

😊 good one

Look at Fast RMX it Shows How powerful the Switch can be

@RS1 What about the older games? No remasters or upgrades for them? A collection package at the very least.

Are you kidding me, the switch is a lot more powerful than the gamecube

Raven Smalls Agreed, we had a shortage of runners of the game at the event for commentary and the honest truth is I didn't prioritize rehearsal of the individual level sections as well as I probably should have. We were focused on fixing some consistency issues that kept us distracted.

TV-GAME Fan I think I've personally managed to overcome mumbling but I can tell you it's nearly impossible to get more time to explain at a GDQ. It's one of the reasons I tell people to come to Twitch.tv/dwangoAC as I can explain what's going on in a longer format.

Not many just yet, it's going to take a few replays in slow motion to catch them all as some of them are only up for a few frames. There's some good stuff in there, credit to CraftedCart for having a fun sense of humor.

Only those with a Linux or Pi, so probably a very small 1%.

The systemd screen, or something else?

@NPC that , and sudo jokes, /proc or /sys stuff. i'll just take another look and probably see more.

yoshi314 There's a lot more, especially during the color a dinosaur segment. :)

if you're interested, F-Zero GX All Tracks was run just last AGDQ by AKC12, another top GX player.

It was one of my biggest concerns ahead of time. I asked them to use tighter shots so there was less crowd movement to contend with so there were more bits available for the game. The higher bitrate of this event definitely helped.

FaliggetFTW What were you expecting us to do? In general we have to use content that's already been created, in part because the GDQ submissions process requires submitting a video of the run and we don't get special treatment from the committee (although I do keep in close contact with them). On rare occasions in the past we've been able to show entirety new content but I have to rest sometime so I try to take it easier for SGDQ events. This is probably the most complex SGDQ I've organized in fact.

dwangoAC honestly, I was hoping it'd be a Grand Prix, like the Mario Kart tas videos I've seen. I dunno. I also was kinda sad to see it was just replays. Like I was thinking it was going to be Entirely TAS gameplay and wouldn't require inputs from anyone after the game started. I'm sorry if my expectations were to high. I appreciate the work you do for the community.

As far as I know it's impossible for them to TAS disc games live.

they demonstrated how far they are in replaying TAS on disc games with the GBA about 9:00. So you got as much of a console verification as they can do at this point, and the what it should have looked like using the replays

thats why the trick with the gba was treated so seriously, that was an actual tas runnning verification in real time, and yeah so far its extremely difficult because of loadtimes being so variable, especially between individual consoles, one might have a dirty lens, one might have a borked drive...not to mention the disc might have a scratch. Too many variables to account for.

As others have noted, we showed replay files for the first few levels then demonstrated that we can with enough effort get real honest-to-goodness console verification using a GBA to provide inputs through the controller ports. It's very challenging as you saw but it's possible with enough effort.

couldnt somebody modify some controller hardware so that it would be possible to program a series of inputs purely electronically, from a computer?

Eiertschik We did a lot of work to reverse engineer the replay file format which is pinned in our Discord.TASBot.net server but we found a way to take complete control of the entire console which was deemed more interesting.

SumeaBizarro It very much is which is why he's in the credits. He was super helpful (albeit terse).

Almost; Seth Bling does things by hand which is in some ways a lot more impressive but this takes it to an entirely different and humanly impossible level.

I did not write a long article about this run specifically but the basics of TASing are documented at TASVideos.org and TASBot.net has information on the process of console verification.

nvm just swallowed everything back

It was done using specially crafted replay saves on the memcard. I wasn't really involved with the ACE so can't give any specifics.

My best guess is that there is a bug in the game's code they managed to exploit using a modified replay file. Then they were able to run their own code stored on the memory card.

reprogramming the game/console using button presses is only required for consoles they can't plug a modifiable storage medium (like a memory card programmed on a PC) into, like NES or SNES.

Precisely!

Thanks everyone I just remember the smb run they had years ago where they did it all by button presses. They didn't say they did that this year so I was curious.

CGN made the replay desync in a TAS of Cosmo Terminal.

Hydroxoid yeah, but that was more due to the inaccuracy of the emulator than anything

Carefully

Swing by Discord.TASBot.net and we'll give you more info, there are a few git repos containing what we did as well.