F1’s Greatest Rivalries: Alain Prost & Ayrton Senna

F1’s Greatest Rivalries: Alain Prost & Ayrton Senna - Past Gas

Рет қаралды 7,360

Жыл бұрын

Thank you to our longtime sponsor, Valvoline. Get Valvoline for your car!
Get a 60-day free trial at www.shipstation.com/pastgas. Thanks to ShipStation for sponsoring the show!
Thanks to Cozy Earth for sponsoring our show! Cozy Earth provided an exclusive offer for my listener’s today: 35% off site wide when you use the code “DRS” at cozyearth.com.
Alain Prost was a fiery Frenchman, and an elite driver known for dominating the track like no driver before him. But along with his unrivaled success, The Professor had an extremely combustible personality and made more than one enemy on his path to glory. But how did this son of a small-town handyman become an F1 driver in the first place? What led to Prost’s legendary personal feud with Ayrton Senna? And how does Alain’s legacy stand up against recent greats like Schumacher and Hamilton? Today on Past Gas, the fastest Frenchman in F1 history - Alain Prost - and the feud that captivated the world of motorsport.
►LISTEN TO THE PODCAST HERE!
bit.ly/PastGas
Donut Media brings you some of the craziest stories from all of automotive history in their new podcast "Past Gas!". Hosts James Pumphrey and Nolan Sykes walk you through incredible stories behind your favorite cars and manufacturers, like underground Japanese racing clubs, bitter racing rivalries and how some of your favorite classic cars came to be. Remember, it's about cars, not about farts.
►Check out more Donut Media Videos: • Evolution of the Porsc... .
►Subscribe here: bit.ly/1JQ3qvO
►Want a Donut shirt or sticker? www.donut.media/
►Like us on Facebook: / donutmedia
Donut Media is at the center of digital media for the next generation of automotive and motorsports enthusiasts. We are drivers, drifters, and car enthusiasts who love to tell stories.

Пікірлер: 37

@grimrobinson5269 Жыл бұрын

Love a bit of goofing. Was a bit much in the middle. I totally related to Joe and Nolan and was like, " come on, James. Chill a little. "

@ritwikbaruah Жыл бұрын

Fact check: It was Mercedes who said that pit stops were getting out of hands and that it posed a serious risk of injuring the pit crew

@irfandupovac8628 Жыл бұрын

I have been posting this every time you bring up Suzuka 1990, hopefully some day you acknowledge it because we need to get rid of this Mandela fact in F1. Ever since they started racing in Suzuka in 1987, the pole position was on the left side. If you don't believe me watch the three starts before '90. Senna had poles there before yet didn't find it necessary to ask for them to change them. He did here and they said no. But it was not like Balestre changed it just to favor Prost. They just kept it where it was. And what I find annoying is how Senna's full blown tantrum is just brushed aside. The man rammed into his rival full speed without any intention of braking, endangering his life. If Senna's wheel came loose and hit Prost's helmet he'd be dead instantly. Schumacher gets lambasted, and rightfully so, for doing similar things in '94 and '97. But at least his crashes were at safer speed where they didn't endanger the life of the other driver. What he did was a downright despicable move. But that is somehow brushed aside as Senna getting his revenge for '89. The truth is there was no good guy and bad guy in this story. Both guys had their good and bad moments but they brought the best and worst out of each other.

@callumpugh6532 Жыл бұрын

I didn’t read all of that but yes I do think they moved the grid spots one race as a conspiracy against senna I could be wrong though

@eggreedgious5194 Жыл бұрын

Prost initiated the crash in 89, Senna basically did a Verstappen in 90 where it wasn't quite as flagrant as Prosts' very intentional crash in 89, but by putting both cars into an impossible situation it was up to Prost to not hit Senna. Senna's dive wouldn't have worked in a dozen years but he knew what the score was. Watching the 89 and 90 Suzuka incidents back to back is pretty eye opening. Prost literally spears him in 89, while in 90 Prost turns in on an out of control Senna that never would have stopped in time to corner.

@HandlesSuck123 Жыл бұрын

Yes and no. No one is arguing that Senna's move in 1990 wasn't dangerous. Many were disgusted by his action, and when looked at the incident alone without context, yes. However, there is context that can't be ignored, and that is why many understood his action. Senna was robbed in 1989 for doing the right thing and taking the eacape road; that's what it's for. 1990 wasn't just revenge against Prost, but the whole of FISA and Balestre for their bias and unfairness.

@apoc_ Жыл бұрын

Title: "Here is another chance to roast A.Prost!"

@aprilkurtz1589 Жыл бұрын

You guys are hilarious! This was really great.

@Big73Red Жыл бұрын

Max/Lewis is a great comp for Senna/Prost because you have one who lives a philanthropic playboy lifestyle while the other would be the most prolific serial killer in their countries history if it wasn’t for racing. One has to be on the cover of a magazine every month while the other would have 50 bodies under their kitchen floorboards if it weren’t for racing.

@HandlesSuck123 Жыл бұрын

I see Max more as Senna and Lewis more as Prost nowadays.

@danielwilson7448 Жыл бұрын

Can we just get video again 😢

@brettbatstra6364 10 ай бұрын

@donutpodcasts "Ayrton Send-It" with the full throttle telemetry data for james tattoo

@bombernova221 Жыл бұрын

OMG YESSSS F1 FOREVER

@tallonmetroids271 Жыл бұрын

Well. Finally seeing where the inspiration for Chick Hicks came from XD

@phantom213 Жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣 you are so funny! The Professor's impersonation is so spot on haha It was the golden era of F1! Just legendary!

@coreymegran6332 Жыл бұрын

I think the comparison between Alonso and Prost is so interesting, because the difference between them is simple: Alonso is classically handsome, and Prost is not. That goes a long way to coloring his actions with negativity, even in context of his rivalry with Senna. Were they on a level playing field in the one area Prost can’t improve himself, we might see their story very differently.

@jayvoorhees4170 Жыл бұрын

Dudes will toast fools exploiting loopholes in the rules, but also hate on guys smart enough to raise hell on the cheating🙄

@hikosaemon Жыл бұрын

Love the podcast and listen to every episode. As a kid when F1 was on regular TV I was a Prost fan - I didn't know anything of his personality, I just liked the fact he was a great driver who racked up wins without drawing so much of the attention. I think he deserved a fairer shake here than he got. Also the two most important moments of the story - I mean, I couldn't even tell what actually happened, which kinda ruined the storytelling. And there was a lot of nuance to each. And frankly Prost wasn't necessarily in the wrong on both of them when you go through all the details. But the conclusion here is "yeah, maybe but we don't like him so whatever" It was a fun podcast as usual but I think you kinda let down Prost on this one.

@ritwikbaruah Жыл бұрын

I don't think whoever wrote the script did justice to Prost. He was presented as an antagonist in the entire podcast, just talking about his low points and not mentioning any of his many great drives or the genius he was in setting up cars and always focusing more on race pace rather than poles. As someone who has watched all races from 1980s onwards, this is not a true and just depiction of the great driver he was. They did not even mention the fact that with the current points system he would have been a 6 times WDC. P.S. I still think Senna had more raw speed and was a quicker driver. I'd urge everyone to actually go and watch all races from the past and build their own opinions on drivers from the past rather than taking in all the information catered by media outlets which might not always be completely accurate.

@irfandupovac8628 Жыл бұрын

Ever since they did the Senna podcasts they have been portraying Prost as the villain Because their main source of knowledge came from a documentary that had the input of the Senna family, that delibaretly portrayed Prost as the villain. 1990 Suzuka is most eggregious example, but the whole f1 community gets the story wrong. Ever since they started racing in Suzuka in 1987 the pole position was on the right side. Senna had poles there before yet didn't find it necessary to ask for them to change them. He did here and they said no. But it was not like Belestre changed it just to favor Prost. They just kept it where it was. And what I find annoying is how Senna's full blown tantrum is just brushed aside. The man rammed into his rival full speed without any intention of braking, endangering his life. If Senna's wheel came lose and hit Prost's helmet he'd be dead instantly. But that is somehow brushed aside as Senna getting his revenge for '89. The truth is there was no good guy and bad guy in this story. Both guys had their good and bad moments but they brought the best and worst out of each other.

@ritwikbaruah Жыл бұрын

@@irfandupovac8628 You could not have said it more accurately👍

@micz221 Жыл бұрын

Agree here. In fact Prost might be quite opposite person than presented here, making peace with his former prime foe Senna, and did it truthfully, before his tragic crash. Prost carried Senna's coffin, he deserves to be recognised in simple human terms for all that. And as f1 driver Prost is multiple world champion, and quite humble in my opinion taking all the legacy he carries

@ammarisrar2005 Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s mainly the writer who portrays Alain as the villain and as much as I like the podcast, all of the F1 podcasts episodes are riddled with inaccuracies and it just pisses me off

@nickbadolato9079 Жыл бұрын

Fernando Alonso is Spanish Batman

@tallonmetroids271 Жыл бұрын

Senna The Savage XD

@Corrieconnect Жыл бұрын

How the hell y’all don’t have a instagram? Let me help y’all manage it.

@tcrmn Жыл бұрын

guys Max Verstappen is not German, he's Dutch. His name is pronounced VerStappen with an SSS, not VerSHtappen like you keep saying it

@ammarisrar2005 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@matthewcmeagher Жыл бұрын

James tattoo idea helmet outline with Brazilian flag in corner

@jayvoorhees4170 Жыл бұрын

Also, I am willing to bet that donut has a stance on bullying, allowing people to be bullies just because everyone else is? Sounds like malarkey, I'm sure that James was bullied as a kid. If he wasn't then he should have been🤣🤣

@ammarisrar2005 Жыл бұрын

These guys just hate Alain for no reason, as much as I like the podcast I try to avoid the f1 episodes because they will shit on anyone because their “rich guys who are friends with their dads” and not people of talent, plus the writers don’t know jack shit about F1, case in point when they call Senna’s Williams a Bennaton Williams which is wrong and is downright disrespectful…

@tylercastles7024 Жыл бұрын

James ruined this an I'm turning it off

@faintmusic4857 Жыл бұрын

This one have been great to finish but James was just too annoying. I want the story not your fake acceents that never end…

@joeschmoe5009 Жыл бұрын

Thumbs down and didnt finish because of 1 persons annoying on and on bit, and about to never listen again because of them

@sukottotsukeshi. Жыл бұрын

Yeah James definitely got a bit too carried away with the impersonations

@joeschmoe5009 Жыл бұрын

@@sukottotsukeshi. he usually goes too far for me when he carries on and says rude things about other people. I cant watch any videos on the main donut channel when he hosts because of it either