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Bryan Alvarez and Dave Meltzer go over the final segments from AEW Dynamite, including the show-closing angle between MJF and Daniel Garcia.
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@dashingdreww1185
@dashingdreww1185 3 күн бұрын
MJF gettin into it with the fans after he destroyed Garcia was awesome ! 😂
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 3 күн бұрын
He's been waiting like a year and a half to be mean to the fans
@SubZero_125
@SubZero_125 3 күн бұрын
MJF is a litter bug 😂😂😂
@oldoakproductions216
@oldoakproductions216 3 күн бұрын
Bryan and Dave being confused about Hangman is pure comedy.
@KairosObj
@KairosObj 3 күн бұрын
And they review this stuff for a living lol.
@frameandi
@frameandi 3 күн бұрын
Bryan gonna snap on Dave one of these days, the mental gymnastics justifying the lack of coherency of aew storyline is wild
@fixurheartVODs
@fixurheartVODs 2 күн бұрын
Admittedly AEW has had too many tweeners in the recent past but this bit with Hangman is SO clearly just a tough, mean heel telling a couple chickensh*t heels to eff off to underline that he’s not back with the Elite. Legit not sure how you can look at these two segments back to back and view it any other way. Heels hate each other all the time, this isn’t new lol.
@jackakimbo5718
@jackakimbo5718 3 күн бұрын
Hangman's a heel, but he's not interested in making friends and schmoozing with the Bucks. He's driven by the desire to win the tournament to get his ultimate prize: a chance to murder Swerve Strickland at Wembley. Nothing else matters.
@KairosObj
@KairosObj 3 күн бұрын
Correct. How these 2 didnt realize it is comedy.
@catchemcarlisle5655
@catchemcarlisle5655 3 күн бұрын
To be fair, I think AEW do a lot wrong…. But the timing of Cole getting hurt when it was so clear they were double turning and it destroyed the entire story is just tough luck. I don’t blame the mishandling of MJF on tony. Was a tough circumstance
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 2 күн бұрын
i know for a fact you took those from solomonsters 😂😂😂
@yourBrainOnDrugs
@yourBrainOnDrugs 2 күн бұрын
We all knew it was gonna be Adam.
@catchemcarlisle5655
@catchemcarlisle5655 Күн бұрын
@@vampirascoffin870 come again?
@Nzi392
@Nzi392 3 күн бұрын
Does anyone else hate Dave interrupting every 2mins😤
@beard_belichick4216
@beard_belichick4216 3 күн бұрын
Babyface/heel is “situational”, in what world?? That isn’t true at all.
@iamdb1990
@iamdb1990 3 күн бұрын
in Dave's mind world
@renatoarauz7784
@renatoarauz7784 3 күн бұрын
depends on the city sometimes
@beard_belichick4216
@beard_belichick4216 3 күн бұрын
@@renatoarauz7784 no it doesn’t, just because your opponents city don’t make you a heel, so if Cody was to wrestle Drew in Scotland would that automatically make Cody the heel?
@beard_belichick4216
@beard_belichick4216 3 күн бұрын
@@iamdb1990 makes sense, so in bizarro world basically
@rentoptional1524
@rentoptional1524 2 күн бұрын
BRYYYYAAAAN BRYYYYAAANN!
@stonebbq5474
@stonebbq5474 3 күн бұрын
He’s not a baby face but he’s also not letting the bucks manipulate and use him, how hard is that to understand Bryan? Lmao. He got suspended by them and hasn’t forgiven them he’s using them as a way to get back to swerve. Real simple shit.
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 4 күн бұрын
Enjoyed this AEW Dynamite.
@nickt.7305
@nickt.7305 3 күн бұрын
While the discussion has been about lower viewership, AEW has been consistently improving its storytelling. Last night was the culmination. Enjoyed it too
@sebastianwalker7573
@sebastianwalker7573 3 күн бұрын
@@nickt.7305 ⁠​⁠Nah lower viewership is because the storytelling is getting worse.
@ABombIsCool
@ABombIsCool 3 күн бұрын
first episode i've really enjoyed in a while, hope the build to All In is consistently this quality
@Behaving_Golem
@Behaving_Golem 3 күн бұрын
​@@sebastianwalker7573This is coming from someone who probably doesn't even watch the show
@samrizza8785
@samrizza8785 3 күн бұрын
Yea. It's definitely improved. If they stick with the storytelling and develop characters, people will start to come back. They have to have a reason to watch
@markfacebook
@markfacebook 3 күн бұрын
Everytime I hear "babyface or heel is situational" come out of Dave's mouth, I cringe. If the idea was to do a "will he or wont he" angle with Page and the Elite, then dont have the Elite be the ones to bring him back. Build the ambiguity till Wembley and have the Elite screw Swerve out of the title and have Hangman join. Otherwise you have a guy acting as a heel associated with heels. This isnt "situational", Dave. He's a heel.
@mattb6616
@mattb6616 3 күн бұрын
he's a "cool heel" and this entire thing is meant to get him over as a babyface.
@jaybee4288
@jaybee4288 3 күн бұрын
For someone around wrestling so long, Dave truly doesn’t understand it.
@AdrianBeegoatz
@AdrianBeegoatz 3 күн бұрын
Hangman is an angry, jealous, crybaby Heel. And it’s a natural fit for his unlikeable personality. Stop with the so-called “cool heels”, it’s not working. If this “story” is supposed to make him a ‘badass’, it’s AEW doing things all wrong again. I don’t even like Hangman. But I hope he stays as a solo, despicable Heel. If they really go with yet ANOTHER “please be my friend” story with the over-played and over-pushed ‘elite’ … I am going to vomit… 🤮
@keni95851
@keni95851 3 күн бұрын
@@mattb6616 then he's not a heel
@M1keFoxxx
@M1keFoxxx 3 күн бұрын
Its not that hard to get Bryan. Not all heels have to get along. Hangman is definitely a heel even he isnt buddy buddy with the Bucks
@gotf
@gotf 3 күн бұрын
Yeah, I don’t understand why Bryan is trying to overcomplicate it so much. Many heels in wrestling still hate each other. They just wanted to establish why Hangman is heel and not with the Elite.
@realrobrose
@realrobrose 3 күн бұрын
If you're watching a movie and a guy is good but then he's bad but then he leaves for half the movie but then he comes back and he's still bad and stops a sympathetic hero and kills their dreams but then turns to the villains and says "no don't you fuckin celebrate, I'm not with you, I'll kill you next you're the bad guys" and then leaves. You'd be confused. You might not be angry. But you'd like, what the fuck is going on with this guy
@mattb6616
@mattb6616 3 күн бұрын
no, it was immediately apparent that this isnt a real "heel" run, its them desperately trying to get hangman over AGAIN by making him a "cool heel" babyface.
@jamescopping2231
@jamescopping2231 3 күн бұрын
​@@mattb6616 Exactly, Hangman just isn't dynamic enough to pull off a decent heel run, and he's too bland for people to get behind him as a lead babyface, so they're just doing what they do with everyone... making yet another edgelord tweener no one asked for.
@Hulkling93
@Hulkling93 3 күн бұрын
​@@realrobroseThere have been many villains in movies, shows, video games, comics and etc where they'll they make it clear to another villain they have an issue with that they will kill them too.
@binxboi7156
@binxboi7156 3 күн бұрын
Hangman comes out to a darker theme, wrestles heel and is unhinged when talking to the main heels Alvarez: bUt iS hE A hEeL!?
@user-ib6ky5os1n
@user-ib6ky5os1n 3 күн бұрын
Lol
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 3 күн бұрын
Yeah its pretty obvious but its a bit weird as a heel he was mad at other heels, but that's them trying to see the character
@konstantinpobedonotsev5589
@konstantinpobedonotsev5589 3 күн бұрын
Yep Alvarez is bound and determined to hate everything AEW does
@binxboi7156
@binxboi7156 3 күн бұрын
@@blablablaa14 but his whole thing is that he’s driven to take the title from Swerve, right? He’s got tunnel vision and the Bucks are just being bratty and offering to help him, which he doesn’t care for cause it’s him bending the knee to them, like he’s been doing for like a decade.
@enemyv
@enemyv 3 күн бұрын
Seriously, Bryan is so weird about AEW sometimes
@zacthebuzzkill
@zacthebuzzkill 3 күн бұрын
When will you correct your poor reporting on Pat Mcaffee?
@deejayguppy6087
@deejayguppy6087 3 күн бұрын
The stubborn never acknowledge their mistakes because stubbornness prevents it. If this were a parasite, it would be an insidious genius. It would infect the host and the host wouldn't feel that anything's wrong. Actually, that might be how parasites roll. Never mind.
@ronniesouthern7829
@ronniesouthern7829 3 күн бұрын
Dave: Hangman may or may not be a baby face, but one or the other is guaranteed to happen.
@AdrianBeegoatz
@AdrianBeegoatz 3 күн бұрын
Hangman should stay a jealous crybaby Heel. It fits him a lot better.
@RoninBgk
@RoninBgk 3 күн бұрын
​@@AdrianBeegoatzhes totally better as a babyface
@xGodofAcidx
@xGodofAcidx 3 күн бұрын
You know it's well done when you see it coming and it still leaves you saying "Wow"
@judshuttie70
@judshuttie70 3 күн бұрын
Nonsence I've been saying for weeks mjf has to turn heel he's wasted as a babyface and all aew fans been telling me he's not turning he works better in shades of grey just being babyface scumbag so nobody else saw it coming except smart people you might be one of em but let's not credit tony he nearly ruined mjf by switching him babyface same as swerve 2 great heals tony nearly ruined he does not get credit for messing up so bad mjf had to demand creative control in his new deal, mjf gets credit for taking back control of his character tony gets nothing, I'm aew hater lately but heel mjf now I'm a fan I'll watch every week now he's back don't get me wrong mjf is ok babyface but he's great heal and he's the best thing aew has to offer and it's not close you watch his segments now his segments were losing viewers I guarantee now they will start to increase when he's on TV.
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 3 күн бұрын
More like “thank god” than wow.
@blablablaa14
@blablablaa14 3 күн бұрын
Yeah its mostly a "thank you for finally using MJF as he should be used for the first time in a year and a half", not a "wow this was super well done"
@xGodofAcidx
@xGodofAcidx 3 күн бұрын
@@judshuttie70Literacy, aisle 4.
@ianbakewell6433
@ianbakewell6433 3 күн бұрын
This whole clip was Dave at his worst. "Situational", "WWE", "In this day and age", "maybe they will, maybe they wont"
@1986Cochran
@1986Cochran 3 күн бұрын
“Why get your news from Reddit, which isn’t even accurate” Tell us again why Mcafee missed raw? 😆
@TheHardys01
@TheHardys01 3 күн бұрын
Jericho calling Tazz a Mark was fkknn hilarious!!
@TAFKASYFY
@TAFKASYFY 3 күн бұрын
One year ago at All In, Hook challenged for the FTW title (a fake fucking title in the company btw) and a whole year later you're telling me he's really gonna do the same thing again?!? Get him the fuck away from that thing, I'm sick of seeing it if they're not actually gonna treat it like a hardcore belt or something where it switches hands a bunch... if it's just a Hook prop, they should have just retired it the first time he won it for his Dad's "legacy" and have him have an actual singles run where he takes losses and shit against the top guys
@Voysh2Voysh69
@Voysh2Voysh69 3 күн бұрын
That’s what I’d like to see happen. With the way they’re getting Taz involved in the storyline, and having Hook aligned with Samoa Joe & Shibata. I’d say have Hook win back the FTW belt, retire it in his father’s honor, and have Taz give Hook his old black FTW towel. Then you get rid of the useless belt AND you give Hook something meaningful from his father, while at the same time sticking with the theme of this Trios team. Samoa Joe has his trademark white towel around his neck and Shibata has his red towel.
@ishmael802
@ishmael802 Күн бұрын
AEW has done 3 good Dynamite shows consecutively.
@irushfield
@irushfield 2 күн бұрын
I don't know why Brian is unsure about Hangman's heel/face alignment. He's a heel, just not with the Elite. That's all it is. How is this confusing?
@KingGhidorah5464
@KingGhidorah5464 3 күн бұрын
Turning your most over babyface heel is quite a choice, especially considering it renders the months long Devil faction completely useless.
@reallydude111
@reallydude111 3 күн бұрын
Nah MJF needs to be a heel and stay a heel. Turning him babyface in the first place was the bad decision
@Behaving_Golem
@Behaving_Golem 3 күн бұрын
@@KingGhidorah5464 Up until last night AEW didn't really have much in the way of top heels. MJF thrives as a heel so it's a natural choice. Undisputed Kingdom was D.O.A. It was a product of probably the worst story AEW has ever put together. I'm not sure that anyone really cares that they're now useless because they were never really useful to begin with.
@enemyv
@enemyv 3 күн бұрын
It’s useless anyway.
@nocap4557
@nocap4557 2 күн бұрын
Exactly Undisputed Kingdom stable is a flop.
@ApolloTheLeader
@ApolloTheLeader 3 күн бұрын
I think the problem is the tiger driver and the stormbreaker have the same pedigree position so its difficult to tell which he was going for
@konstantinpobedonotsev5589
@konstantinpobedonotsev5589 3 күн бұрын
Of COURSE Bryan is finding things to bitch about 🙄
@andrewcameron1556
@andrewcameron1556 3 күн бұрын
Meltzer hopes Hook sells being burned. Yeah like Jack Perry who came back and got the winning pinfall 🤣
@Snakeskin94
@Snakeskin94 3 күн бұрын
What AEW needs to keep in mind is, you lose everything faster than you get it back- they just need to improve their story telling, keep it consistent, and people will come back- just like when Sami Zayne joined the Bloodline and that story brought more and more people back over the course of two years. Slow and steady wins the race, basically.
@TrafalgarKiri
@TrafalgarKiri 3 күн бұрын
It‘s not that hard to understand heel/face dynamics in wrestling. Man, the wrestling community sometimes make it look like it’s some kind of unsolved mystery. Hangman is obviously a heel right now. Case closed.
@toniyakovlev4403
@toniyakovlev4403 4 күн бұрын
Too bad they turned him babyface in the first place, wasted an entire year of everybodys time and made him less popular than ever before only to try to rebuild him.
@mohammeddrame2858
@mohammeddrame2858 3 күн бұрын
Him and Adam Cole got injured what were they supposed to do, and maybe that storyline isn’t dead yet because they could bring it back when Cole is fit
@judshuttie70
@judshuttie70 3 күн бұрын
​@@mohammeddrame2858 How does that work with mjf being heal nobody cares cole turned on a heel FFS heel v heel dosnt work
@activephreak
@activephreak 3 күн бұрын
@@mohammeddrame2858the problem is that they never let MJF have a solo babyface run before turning him heel. He should have had a proper fued with the undisputed kingdom to get revenge, but they just decided to throw him in random matches after his comeback. It’s like they turned him heel because they didn’t have any other ideas to make a babyface MJF work with ONLY MJF.
@thesobieski5081
@thesobieski5081 3 күн бұрын
Who was face MJF gonna feud with? The biggest heels are The Elite and the only storyline with them is them vs AEW. Jay White has already been done. A Don Callis family story would be a demotion for him. I guess AEW has a large stash of wrestlers they could pull out at any time but they should focus on guys that actually get tv time and will be around.
@philiphaller1018
@philiphaller1018 3 күн бұрын
​@@mohammeddrame2858I hope they don't bring it back. It went on long enough and failed plain and simple. It's time they just move on from it now
@gulraizbhutta
@gulraizbhutta 3 күн бұрын
AEW Dynamite was Fun, Awesome and Entertainment
@SamuelHereAmI
@SamuelHereAmI 3 күн бұрын
Ospreay Mad King Story could be cooo.. He losing his mind with the Tiger Driver.. black out, madness, Tiger Driver Maybe for a later reign
@djnp9476
@djnp9476 2 күн бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks that Ricochet is joining the Don Callis family?
@jaybee4288
@jaybee4288 3 күн бұрын
It’s his best role and how he should have behaved as champion but something feels a little off. Like it was just done for shock value sake. Yeah it’s course correction but they could have done this as soon as he came back. AEW struggle a lot with telling stories and turning guys.
@Onthedl06
@Onthedl06 3 күн бұрын
Starting a counter for everytime WWE is mentioned on a AEW clip and visa versa. This will be day 1
@Kantoro
@Kantoro 3 күн бұрын
Bryan’s logic is killing me. Does he not get that just cause they’re heels it doesn’t mean they’re all friends? Hangman is 1000000% a heel but doesn’t like the Bucks for using him and suspending him. That’s it. Still not someone to cheer for. His goal is Swerve though, and the Bucks can F off. That’s it.
@TheBrindleBoxer
@TheBrindleBoxer 3 күн бұрын
Why did people like this Dynamite? Was it because it had 7 "banger matches" on the show? Nope. It was because of a Britt vs Mercedes promo segment, a surprise return of a star who has been gone for months, and a show ending angle involving the company's biggest star. It's almost like drama matters in pro wrestling.
@philiphaller1018
@philiphaller1018 3 күн бұрын
Yeah but it also had 3 great matches as well. Wrestling still matters
@TheBrindleBoxer
@TheBrindleBoxer 3 күн бұрын
@@philiphaller1018 , not on its own, though.
@enemyv
@enemyv 3 күн бұрын
Especially on TV. PPVs are gonna be judged more on the wrestling, because big matches are the payoffs, TV is more for the storytelling, for the build
@gagemartin7207
@gagemartin7207 3 күн бұрын
@@philiphaller1018people acting you can’t have great matches and drama on the same episode
@AdrianBeegoatz
@AdrianBeegoatz 3 күн бұрын
Pro wrestling is at its absolute BEST, when it is clear who the Heroes and Villains are. It makes it simpler for the crowd to engage the wrestlers accordingly, and then the storylines/feuds more naturally fall into place. This “situational” nonsense that Meltzer keeps spewing out is one of the BIG reasons why people have been tuning out of AEW. It’s unclear what anybody’s alliances or motivations are on a week to week basis 🤷🏻‍♂️
@FailureByDesignMusic
@FailureByDesignMusic 3 күн бұрын
the tiger driver spot was before the ref bump
@clevelandroxx
@clevelandroxx 3 күн бұрын
Did Dave say Cole was gonna be WITH Roddy’s group? 🤦🏻‍♂️ poor guy
@doomblitz1993
@doomblitz1993 3 күн бұрын
Why does Cole need to come back as a face? Heels can feud with each other.
@Mdowlz
@Mdowlz 3 күн бұрын
Not a bad dynamite. Let’s see if they can build off it.
@Whoo711
@Whoo711 Күн бұрын
SCISSOR ME, M-J-F!
@SteelyPhilbert
@SteelyPhilbert 3 күн бұрын
I don’t think Garcia ever actually accepted the Wembley match though, did he? Will came down and kinda stole the spotlight. Then Garcia was so excited about Will’s offer in that very moment that he immediately lost focus on MJF’s offer and seemingly overlooked it. Then MJF had that “you ungrateful ass motherfucker” look. That’s at least how I remember it, but I usually just have this shit on in the background while getting all my night time errands done…if I’m being honest. I wish I’d have actually paid attention now though because last night was the first genuinely entertaining and must see Dynamite for me in a VERY long time. AEW rarely has a single interesting story in my opinion. Last night there were several to actually get excited about.
@jansapp
@jansapp 3 күн бұрын
Remember when Bryan couldn't figure out that Punk vs Eddie Kingston was a tweener vs tweener feud and was losing his brain over it? Amazing he's been covering wrestling most of his life and he still doesn't have a clue, even when it comes to kayfabe analysis
@jobe616
@jobe616 3 күн бұрын
Bryan is intentionally dense. Hangman is NOT a face
@SoFlyBmOr3
@SoFlyBmOr3 3 күн бұрын
Everytime Dave gives aew any criticism he has to go but but but but but but wwe does the same thing lol
@TheTruth-mv7hm
@TheTruth-mv7hm 3 күн бұрын
Ikr
@MotherHen2012
@MotherHen2012 2 күн бұрын
I was looking for this comment lol.
@leeedwards9068
@leeedwards9068 3 күн бұрын
After this episode…I think they will crack 700K next week, as well. Provided ‘Big Bang Theory’ is the lead-in…
@MartyDickRider
@MartyDickRider 3 күн бұрын
Can someone answer this... Why on earth should anyone care about the continental title?
@philiphaller1018
@philiphaller1018 3 күн бұрын
I feel the same about the International title like I feel it almost cheapens Ospreay etc for competing over it. It has no prestige at all. They should only have one secondary title.
@aaronknautz7364
@aaronknautz7364 3 күн бұрын
It is quite hilarious how everyone has a belt.
@brysoncherry9884
@brysoncherry9884 2 күн бұрын
​@@aaronknautz7364 BBG have 3
@alleneng
@alleneng 3 күн бұрын
He knocked the guy's phone down he also spit on a fan I really hope those guys are plants because if not that's really uncalled for
@MrRyanlennie2005
@MrRyanlennie2005 3 күн бұрын
Great episode of Dynamite.
@IAEMThatIAEM
@IAEMThatIAEM 3 күн бұрын
you arent supposed to like the heels
@a.jherbert5436
@a.jherbert5436 3 күн бұрын
It's sad to think wrestling has such bad, one-dimensional storytelling, it's conditioned fans to think that bad guys all get along and good guys get along. If 2 bad guys don't get along, they get confused, like 5 year olds.
@CopingwithPanels
@CopingwithPanels 3 күн бұрын
I think that’s mainly Alvarez
@mrhy7912
@mrhy7912 3 күн бұрын
I wonder whether these guys actually consume any media outside of wrestling
@mattb6616
@mattb6616 3 күн бұрын
hangman will be tagging with babyfaces against heels next week and you'll be like HES A HEEL I SWEAR HE MAKES A MEAN FACE SO HES A HEEL
@keni95851
@keni95851 3 күн бұрын
With very few exceptions every great story has a main antagonist and a main protagonist. Your just don't know basic fucking storytelling.
@SleepyGrapes
@SleepyGrapes 3 күн бұрын
Ngl the fact that Brian can’t see that hangman is a heel is funny to me the man came out to fucking video game villain music like he’s Dutch in red dead redemption 2 and beat the fuck out of Jeff Jarret who was one of owen harts best friends come on Brian I defend you a lot but this one going right over your head lol
@J10thePerformer
@J10thePerformer 3 күн бұрын
The Callis family can’t even buy a win these days
@Voysh2Voysh69
@Voysh2Voysh69 3 күн бұрын
Hangman’s a heel and he’s going to rejoin the Elite, but he’s only going to do it as THE top dog of the Elite. Hangman will be the World title contender of the Elite, the man who’s front & center and doesn’t take orders from Matt & Nick Jackson. Hangman literally said it to Matt when he grabbed him by his neck. “I’m not a child anymore. I’m not your puppet anymore.” I think Hangman goes on to finally get his long-awaited win over Swerve. Hangman becomes the heel AEW World champion and will be the leader of the Elite, calling the shots just like Omega & Cody used to.
@xShoTime83x
@xShoTime83x 3 күн бұрын
Maybe if Daniel Garcia wasn't a jobber, the dude's last single win on Dynamite before he got a couple squash wins was over a year and a half ago, more people would actually care that MidJF brutalized him. But Tony Khan thinks building a someone up for a few weeks, then only to beat them is storytelling, when it's not.
@Chaz4543
@Chaz4543 3 күн бұрын
Everyone sees that he's a jobber expect for Khan and AEW marks. Its like they wanna ignore what has worked in pro wrestling for over 50 years and made it successful and suddenly change all the rules. Thats not how it works and thats why your company is failing. Just because a guy is a "good worker" doesnt mean he can be a star. Thats how its always been but the marks dont see it that way. They are like "this guy is a good worker and deserves be a star and be on top."
@jorgemartinezjr77
@jorgemartinezjr77 3 күн бұрын
“Does Adam Cole return as a face?” Mr. Meltzer “I don’t Know” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@TheMM1215
@TheMM1215 3 күн бұрын
Plans change...you know. 😅
@royalty843
@royalty843 3 күн бұрын
Would make absolutely no sense
@martaviouspaul7117
@martaviouspaul7117 3 күн бұрын
I enjoyed the show so now storyline wise is MJF just gonna brush aside that Adam Cole and his group turned on him and put him on the shelf
@marksplawn7791
@marksplawn7791 3 күн бұрын
He may actually thank him for reminding him that the old mjf was the best version of himself and he doesn't need friends
@3duardo17
@3duardo17 3 күн бұрын
Hangman's motivation is still ruining swerves life
@423chart
@423chart 3 күн бұрын
I’ve had just about enough of Dave’s “situational” babyface and heel argument.
@HatchbackMF
@HatchbackMF 2 күн бұрын
Bryan is instantly confused when it’s not the cousins community theater bits in uncle paul’s slightly better fed. $15 a month for some great analysis from a once great podcast host & journalist.
@TylerCrossWrestling
@TylerCrossWrestling 3 күн бұрын
So Daniel Garcia gets stretchered for a middle rope tombstone, but 2 months ago Orange Cassidy gets piledriven on the steel steps and slingshot into the steel ring frame and is able to still fend off Trent? Theres no fucking consistency in this company.
@mielyt125
@mielyt125 4 күн бұрын
We might be back
@realrobrose
@realrobrose 3 күн бұрын
This gave me such Ric Flair WCW turns flashbacks.
@pasta1169
@pasta1169 4 күн бұрын
Excellent dynamite this week
@TheMM1215
@TheMM1215 3 күн бұрын
MJF goes from being the AEW Champ and feuding with Samoa Joe to feuding with Rush and now that nobody Garcia. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TribalThief
@TribalThief 3 күн бұрын
Meltzer "look at Chad gable" no dave, how about jungle goof gets set on fire with a flame thrower.........then wins the match 5 minutes later" 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
@OscarRamirez-fr9ii
@OscarRamirez-fr9ii 3 күн бұрын
Dave Amnesia Meltzer
@theSuperviLLain_est
@theSuperviLLain_est 3 күн бұрын
Right before that he said AEW does it all the time. Ppl are such marks to hate Dave they don’t even pay attention 😂
@dngn4774
@dngn4774 3 күн бұрын
@@theSuperviLLain_estThe point was he can’t bring himself to criticize AEW without immediately making an excuse or throwing WWE under the bus. It’s never “this was a bad segment” it’s “this was bad BuT WWe DOes bAD tHiNGs Too!!!” He doesn’t behave that way with NJPW, Stardom, or CMLL. It just reeks of insecurity.
@quesoblanco444
@quesoblanco444 3 күн бұрын
I loved the flamethrower bit. It was awesome. Jack is a swell heel.
@danzane5973
@danzane5973 3 күн бұрын
Now we go back to MJF's 20 minute weekly Triple H light promos
@ShadyDBZ4
@ShadyDBZ4 3 күн бұрын
Look at this salty E-Drone bot 🤖 butt hurt whiner. 😂😅🤣
@quesoblanco444
@quesoblanco444 3 күн бұрын
Oh please, MJF isn't anywhere near the agonizing bloated nothing promos that HHH would dominate WWE tv with.
@Krispen_Wah
@Krispen_Wah 3 күн бұрын
even the best promo Triple H ever cut was no better than a standard promo by MJF completely different dimension and only a true Vincel would do that kind of mental gymnastics
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 3 күн бұрын
@@quesoblanco444 🤣👍
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 3 күн бұрын
@@Krispen_Wah 😆👍
@thomasleffler6721
@thomasleffler6721 3 күн бұрын
So they did the Devil storyline for 6 months, did the blow-off in two minutes and just turned MJF heel anyways. It’s more a symptom of the fans than anything, they want everyone to be a heel that winks and “plays along” with them. And even if all that could be excused, using to “get over” one of the most bland guys on the roster is…certainly a choice
@Andrew-gk6bn
@Andrew-gk6bn 3 күн бұрын
Cole is out and you just want MJF sitting around waiting? Injuries ruined that angle you have to move on.
@andrebdd5818
@andrebdd5818 3 күн бұрын
Bryan: Is hangman a heel or a babyface Dave: who knows It’s that sort of top line reporting that makes Dave who he is
@chrispetrelis5013
@chrispetrelis5013 3 күн бұрын
But who cares. Wrestling fans in the modern era do not care about BABYFACE OR HEEL. Fans cheer for anyone. I am so sick of whose a babyface. It does not mater
@iamdb1990
@iamdb1990 3 күн бұрын
@@chrispetrelis5013 it does if you want to have a successful wrestling company
@TheDarksideRaider78
@TheDarksideRaider78 2 күн бұрын
K​@@chrispetrelis5013
@TheHeatisOn76
@TheHeatisOn76 4 күн бұрын
Dave, jack perry was set on fire and won his watch.
@nd2528
@nd2528 3 күн бұрын
“No but it’s not just Aew that does it, wwe does it too…. Chad gable” He sounds like such an Aew cheerleader. I completely forgot about that ridiculous jack perry fire situation.
@dashingdreww1185
@dashingdreww1185 3 күн бұрын
MJF beats Ospreay at Wembley then a year later Ospreay beats MJF for the AEW title
@zachbrown1988
@zachbrown1988 3 күн бұрын
So copy what wwe did with their biggest baby face
@Andrew-gk6bn
@Andrew-gk6bn 3 күн бұрын
@@zachbrown1988 WWE didn't invent good guy overcomes bad guy lol
@zachbrown1988
@zachbrown1988 3 күн бұрын
@@Andrew-gk6bn having your top face lose at the biggest show of the year to rally and come back a year later and achieve victory after a year long build is what wwe just did with Cody
@kamfisher1714
@kamfisher1714 4 күн бұрын
I thought he was already a heel?
@juniorkhomari1850
@juniorkhomari1850 3 күн бұрын
So uhm, this turn wasn't built to at all. They had a segment last week, MJF basically said he sees himself in Garcia, putting him over essentially. So one week later, he becomes his mentor and turns on him? Did I miss weeks of story? Yes the actual turn was a great angle but wtf? A story that could've been told in about 6 months was done in two weeks. Fucking stupid
@ryanallan3742
@ryanallan3742 Күн бұрын
Is dave really believing his shit talk about having to cancel indi dates in this day and age haha its the opposite way round sososos wel so well well well WWE THOUGH sososos Sooooo the heel bucks kick hangman out the group meaning that page is automatically a face but then act like heel because heel jarret turned init a face because of the owen promo hahaha FN hell that one of the biggest flaws in AEW NO PSYCHOLOGICALLY BUT APPARENTLY ITS JUST SITUATIONAL?!?! WFT
@BePatient888
@BePatient888 3 күн бұрын
If this is what Dynamite is going to be like all the way until All In. It's going to be a great 7 weeks. The show had a good balance of wrestling matches and story building.
@michaelward1996
@michaelward1996 3 күн бұрын
If they have that quality for 7 weeks that's an all timer and would set expectation for the Annual run to All In after Forbidden Door.
@TheMM1215
@TheMM1215 3 күн бұрын
It's going to draw another 500k episode too. 😅
@BePatient888
@BePatient888 3 күн бұрын
@@TheMM1215 Not sure what that matters to us fans, but you might be right. There will be lots of wrestling fans who might miss the awesome quality of this show because of past shows, or Cornette BS, or.. because they watch it on night 2-7, which is why those night 1 ratings are kind of bull sh-t?
@michaelward1996
@michaelward1996 3 күн бұрын
@@BePatient888 Agreed, could NOT care less. I'm running to discuss with fans, not running to check if this hit some number in the ratings. Which is foolish because you're basing it entirely off of assumptions you have of how Warner feels. No one besides those in that circle know entirely what they're expecting.
@eamonwright7488
@eamonwright7488 3 күн бұрын
@@BePatient888Because, if the ratings keep going down, NOBODY will renew their TV deals. No TV deals, no more AEW. That should matter to you fans.
@skill14
@skill14 3 күн бұрын
So no Cole vs MJF now?
@dissconnect5588
@dissconnect5588 3 күн бұрын
you guys sit here and argue about whos a babyface or a heel what about its a human character who makes choices given the situation. not everything is just “oonga boonga, bad guy join other bad guy just cause”
@mattb6616
@mattb6616 3 күн бұрын
thats how mass market storytelling works. its obvious hangman is being booked as a "cool heel" style babyface. its what the nwo wanted to do in wcw, or what every stone cold ripoff tries to do.
@quesoblanco444
@quesoblanco444 3 күн бұрын
Tony said in the very beginning, he was not going to have traditional heel/face characters. But wrestling, and wrestling fans are very basic. They can't watch anything unfold, without labeling it with wrestling lingo and comparing it to another fed.
@Chaz4543
@Chaz4543 3 күн бұрын
@@quesoblanco444 No wonder AEW crowds are so quiet and everyone just sits on their hands. They dont know who to boo and who to cheer for. Thats a huge problem. They have to cheer for the moves and the spots which is really sad.
@quesoblanco444
@quesoblanco444 3 күн бұрын
@@Chaz4543 If you watch AEW, the crowds are not quiet. They boo and cheer for who they like/dislike. Also, it's weird that you think cheering the actual matches is "sad".
@keni95851
@keni95851 3 күн бұрын
Spoken by some mark who never watched a movie or a tv show besides wrestling apparently. Let alone READ a work of fiction
@theSuperviLLain_est
@theSuperviLLain_est 3 күн бұрын
Who said the injury to Brian Keith was a work? He couldn’t just heal over time lol
@chri6393
@chri6393 3 күн бұрын
Remember when Van Vader was a heel 1 week, and a babyface the next? No one does. Cause it's a dumb thing to do. You can have shades of gray, but those should be exceptions
@Chaz4543
@Chaz4543 3 күн бұрын
Why would people who remember that be watching AEW ? They all checked out of wrestling a long time ago.
@gavinwhitby5164
@gavinwhitby5164 4 күн бұрын
Don't you just hate it when a sentence doesn't finish the way you think it testicles?
@deeariisafra4
@deeariisafra4 3 күн бұрын
🤔🫣🫣🤣
@silveredgrunion7196
@silveredgrunion7196 3 күн бұрын
Mjf turding heel is probably the best thing they've done in a while. I don't hate aew but its a tv show without a real main villain. Now things are gonna get on
@danehockam-dunn8193
@danehockam-dunn8193 3 күн бұрын
Two matches in a row with Ospreay end with someone declining a weapon only to immediately lose. That's some quick recycling.
@arcus9590
@arcus9590 3 күн бұрын
Dave making up an argument and going "WWE dose it as well".
@paulevans6076
@paulevans6076 3 күн бұрын
AEWs booking between Ospreay, MJF and Garcia has been interesting. I genuinely thought that with Ospreays 'I don't need the Callis family' spiel they had planted the seeds for Fletcher being the one to turn on Ospreay/screwing him out of the World Title at the PPV. That didn't happen. Then I thought that maybe Fletcher would turn on Ospreay this week instead and cost him the International Title against Garcia. That didn't happen either. They planted seeds for MJF v Garcia at Wembley. Maybe that match will happen there - but then again, it was Ospreay who ran in to make the save (eventually) after Garcias beat down. So maybe its gonna be Ospreay v MJF at Wembley? That's certainly a bigger match on paper than MJF v Garcia. I never expected MJF to go full heel this week against Garcia either. I really can't work out if my expectations are being subverted cleverly by AEW at the moment or if its wild booking. Maybe with All In and All Out so close together we'll get both MJF matches in 1 week? Who knows. I'm here for it though, genuinely not a clue where they're heading and what will happen next week.
@dashingdreww1185
@dashingdreww1185 3 күн бұрын
Yup I can see MJF laughing at Garcia saying if he’s gonna still accept the challenge at Wembley but then Garcia says he not cleared to compete but Ospreay will take his place then we get Ospreay vs MJF at Wembley
@zachbrown1988
@zachbrown1988 3 күн бұрын
If by interesting you mean nonsensical and dumb
@LDavis-uz6xl
@LDavis-uz6xl 3 күн бұрын
You ain't the only one with no clue where AEW is going. Khaaaaaannnn!!!
@sheltoncary
@sheltoncary 3 күн бұрын
Dave with a new camera for the win!
@barry101ish
@barry101ish 4 күн бұрын
Cosplay miz with the worst fake tan i ever seen
@memeteam8274
@memeteam8274 4 күн бұрын
real
@zerozeeros
@zerozeeros 3 күн бұрын
Tony Khan has jumped the shark. I fkn hate his booking
@dragonslayer7327
@dragonslayer7327 3 күн бұрын
We've got The Elite, the Don Callis Family, Jericho's group, the Undisputed Kingdom, now Hangman, Mercedes and MJF, there are way way way too many top heels in this company now.
@masonteague4039
@masonteague4039 3 күн бұрын
MJF sucks!!!!
@robertcrist5747
@robertcrist5747 3 күн бұрын
Sooooooo, Tony spends weeks pushing Garcia collecting "W's" for this big build up? A guy that will never draw a dime in Chinese money. Then, when he not only gets jobbed out to Willie Boy he gets a beat down by MJF for the cherry on top? 😅........Ricky Starks! Be glad you're staying home getting a free check!
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 3 күн бұрын
@@robertcrist5747 Hater brigader spotted Trying poorly to disguise there Haterism as criticism 😆🤦‍♂️
@keni95851
@keni95851 3 күн бұрын
Ope, watch out Robert, don't you dare criticize AEW in F4W land, the marks will come out of the woodwork
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 3 күн бұрын
@@keni95851 2 hater brigades trying to justify there stupidity you still lovingly obsessed with me sad 1 😆😅🤣😂
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 3 күн бұрын
@@keni95851 He.s just ken Somebody's girlfriend in the pen🎶
@keni95851
@keni95851 3 күн бұрын
@Dr_1212 huh durrrr u no like my tv show, u "hater brigader" 🤣🤣🤣 what kind of little bih says stuff like that? Oh yeah the same one who has 50 burners because he has no friends
@AdamSylis-nh5oo
@AdamSylis-nh5oo 3 күн бұрын
Daniel Garcia has absolutely no charisma. James Ellsworth had more charisma and personality than Garcia. Tony always tries to push wrestlers who cannot sell a single ticket. 😬😬
@mattb6616
@mattb6616 3 күн бұрын
garcia rules
@Chaz4543
@Chaz4543 3 күн бұрын
Hes not in the business to sell tickets. He doesnt care. Its just a vanity project.
@mattb6616
@mattb6616 3 күн бұрын
the hangman angle was so immediately bad. first off he's an awful, unconvincing actor, but second it's already obvious he's not meant to really be a heel. putting him against the bucks means hes supposed to be a "cool heel" style babyface. hangman will never be over and i wish they'd stop trying. he's not a badass, he's a big softie. and before anyone responds, you don't get a guy over as a heel by putting him against Jeff Jarrett, one of the most legendary heels in wrestling history who is CURRENTLY ALSO A HEEL. Half the crowd is going to be HAPPY to see him beat up! And they were!
@quesoblanco444
@quesoblanco444 3 күн бұрын
Nope, Hangman is over. The live crowd disagrees with you.
@rj5822
@rj5822 3 күн бұрын
Adam Cole is 🗑️
@yungsantana2491
@yungsantana2491 3 күн бұрын
AEW is so back 😈😈😈🔥🔥😭
@Handle_Needs_3_Or_More_Charact
@Handle_Needs_3_Or_More_Charact 3 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie, i was disappointed in Jarrett losing in the first round. Way to build a feel good story and then completely fumble it.
@nateputerbaugh5709
@nateputerbaugh5709 3 күн бұрын
Daniel Garcia is officially the biggest geek in all of AEW. This is the 4th time they completely dropped the ball. Dead and buried kid. Call Regal when your contract is up this year or enjoy never achieving a thing
@11sdownie
@11sdownie 3 күн бұрын
Two guys who don’t look like wrestlers/stars. This is why AEW will never draw.
@megatinmand5524
@megatinmand5524 3 күн бұрын
You mean two guys you can't pleasure yourself to
@SAM-ru4vx
@SAM-ru4vx 3 күн бұрын
Business about to pick up guys.
@JokersRWildStudios
@JokersRWildStudios 3 күн бұрын
MJF kills Garcia Hangman kills Jeff Jarrett “WhErEs ThE StOrY?!”
@keni95851
@keni95851 3 күн бұрын
How are they Related
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 4 күн бұрын
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