F80 M3 Comp DCT vs Camaro 10AT LT1 vs Challenger 8AT 392 T/A. Drag and Roll Race.

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Sam CarLegion

Sam CarLegion

Жыл бұрын

F80 M3 Comp DCT vs Camaro 10AT LT1 vs Challenger 8AT 392 T/A. Drag and Roll Race.
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@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Hey guys! First of all, I want to apologize to everyone for this video and to the owners of the Challenger and Camaro. Bimmer-Tech has found out that this tune can make the car potentially gain up to 100bhp. I was not aware of such a thing until today. Initially, I was told the car would not gain any power, I confirmed a few times. The tune maker claims now, that the car can gain up to 100bhp with this new map, I was told initially otherwise. I didn’t want the M3 tuned, never planned. So this is unfortunately not a stock M3, again I want to apologize to everyone.
@thatr34monster49
@thatr34monster49 Жыл бұрын
It sucks that they weren’t honest or better informed about the tune. Not sure I would trust them now
@bimmer-tech
@bimmer-tech Жыл бұрын
Hi guys! We would like to apologize for this misunderstanding and clear out some confusion. Our tunes were always designed to provide extra power & torque, but our focus was always also on engine longevity (making it run cooler), and fuel consumption (making it less thirsty). Hence the miscomunication between us and Sam. Cheers guys!
@PapiAndrey
@PapiAndrey Жыл бұрын
😂 Got you good. Damage is done now, enjoy it! Get that crank hub taken care of if you plan on keeping the car long term
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Car has the crankhub replaced already :) and it’s now back in stock. Car was also tuned before my ownership :)
@lsxracing7744
@lsxracing7744 Жыл бұрын
Idk about 100 hp but u did gains some power, good races
@FLBoyCanScrap
@FLBoyCanScrap Жыл бұрын
"Tune doesn't add horsepower" .... "OMG it is so much quicker now" SMH
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
It’s throttle response rather than bhp
@reloadingdontshoot1
@reloadingdontshoot1 Жыл бұрын
As someone who just got a professional tune, it adds BHP. Went from 182whp to over 220whp. Fuel to air ratio, maps and timings make a huge diff. I also have a pedal commander; if I'm stuck with my car for the foreseeable future might as well have fun with it
@armofiron7435
@armofiron7435 Жыл бұрын
You can have a tune for the transmission. It shifts faster and keeps you in the power band longer without adding power.
@patwill0007
@patwill0007 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Am I wrong or quicker throttle response doesn’t change anything anymore once you have your foot down ? Once you’re rolling the car shouldn’t feel “so much faster” ?
@BlackMagicStudio224
@BlackMagicStudio224 Жыл бұрын
Of course it adds horsepower, who is Sam kidding?
@twilightmedia8575
@twilightmedia8575 Жыл бұрын
thats cheating a tuned car vs stock cars
@GoDsSoN770
@GoDsSoN770 Жыл бұрын
The Camaro can be had for under $40,000 USD. That's the real win.
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
No one really cares about camaros, hence why they’re being discontinued.. RIP.
@Superdimensional
@Superdimensional Жыл бұрын
Cus nobody wants it lol
@Wicked_RotF30
@Wicked_RotF30 Жыл бұрын
The real win is a F30/32 BMW N55 that’s not allergic to modifications….that’s real value and the perception it gives❤ FYI, Alpina B3 uses the N55 platform😊
@durin23
@durin23 Жыл бұрын
@@Wicked_RotF30 fun fact alpina b3 comes with 404hp n55 variant higher then any factory produced b58.
@FlowTieGuy
@FlowTieGuy Жыл бұрын
Don't listen to the BMW snobs. There's a reason no one likes them...... They've been butt hurt for years since the Camaro has been slapping BMWs at tracks for years now, while being half the price
@voiceofreason7119
@voiceofreason7119 Жыл бұрын
Lt1 is the winner here at 40k regardless if it lost
@FlowTieGuy
@FlowTieGuy Жыл бұрын
... and will likely last much longer and cheaper to maintain... So double winner
@CPAJayhawk
@CPAJayhawk Жыл бұрын
If only they had a 4 door platform with the LT1 motor for
@99-Zulu
@99-Zulu Жыл бұрын
​@@CPAJayhawk They did 6 years ago. Granted it came with the LS3 instead of the LT1. Chevy did it dirty and didn't advertise it. Essentially fully loaded at $45k
@nathanlopez5667
@nathanlopez5667 Жыл бұрын
The best bang-for-the-buck out there
@CPAJayhawk
@CPAJayhawk Жыл бұрын
@@99-Zulu Yeah and now they are worth more than what they sold for new. They had outdated tech even at the time they were new, and the LS3 was old as well. The rebadging of Holden vehicles has been a huge mistake by GM. They are always way behind in tech, and have a short production run that leaves owners in a bad spot when it comes to replacement parts that are bespoke to the car. I learned my lesson after owning a GTO, i liked the SS, the G8 was ok, but never again. The 6th gen camaro/ATS/CTS platform would be great for a V8 performance 4 door chevy.
@mistersecret88
@mistersecret88 Жыл бұрын
Cmon. That bmw is well over 500hp. New title. Sam the Sandbagger.
@yousefal-assaf2985
@yousefal-assaf2985 Жыл бұрын
The tune definitely adds HP in a sense, because you're sitting at the peak power band for longer times.
@hnic72
@hnic72 Жыл бұрын
It absolutely makes more power. Just cleaning up the afr's, add whp and wtq. A motor that runs more efficiently will net higher numbers, cooler engine temps, better fuel efficiency (partial throttle), faster tip-in etc
@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049
@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 Жыл бұрын
Tune all those and see where you stand
@ruki7602
@ruki7602 Жыл бұрын
​@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 Better dont tune the BMW, thats the easiest way we had to go.
@supersportlt1
@supersportlt1 Жыл бұрын
A tuned twin turbo M3 versus stock v8's 😂😂😂. This piggyback tune on the M3 is equivalent to the Carbahn piggyback. Gives you 30-40 horsepower and torque gain with increased throttle response but keeps the car within limits to not hurt the engine
@f8widescat392
@f8widescat392 Жыл бұрын
He clearly just wanted to show off by beating up less expensive cars lmao
@supersportlt1
@supersportlt1 Жыл бұрын
@@f8widescat392 I agree, not even the cost difference but a tuned twin turbo car versus 2 N/A cars 😂😂😂😂 Ego boost
@f8widescat392
@f8widescat392 Жыл бұрын
@@supersportlt1 A Zl1 or hellcat would make him rethink his purchase lmao.
@supersportlt1
@supersportlt1 Жыл бұрын
@@f8widescat392 He's already rethinking his purchase that's why he got the tune and claimed he had no idea it added power 😂😂😂😂. The stock B58 Supra already out ran him a week ago 😂😂😂
@jimwallace4164
@jimwallace4164 Жыл бұрын
Well done lads! Fun video. Good showing for the M3. Shoutout Staz for another blast down the track in the LT1. I'll miss that car.
@S8ER
@S8ER Жыл бұрын
great races...the M3 is very potent right out of the box so the results shouldn't really surprise too many people. Given the weight of the Challenger I think it did much better than I expected.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Same :)
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Hard to compete with more advanced tech that’s tuned and lighter. Would like to see all these cars tuned to see the difference although it won’t matter because the bmw is turbo and not even tuned for power with extra boost up top for hp and tq gains but rather optimized for the power it is. Looks like bmw has a lot of room for optimizing tune factory. Thanks for the comparison Sam, good video.👍
@user-hs3vc4tw6h
@user-hs3vc4tw6h 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention you jumped with the bimmer everytime
@Parker_Ralston
@Parker_Ralston Жыл бұрын
I don't think this was far at all. You have a tune vs stock cars. I lost interest right away after knowing the M3 was gonna win every race because it was modified. Not a good way to compare cars.
@danaberman6929
@danaberman6929 Жыл бұрын
Now lets compare prices too???
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 Жыл бұрын
you get what you pay for
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын
​@@MikeyG003 ZL1 beats the piss out of BMWs Better chassis with MagnaRide And supercar performance. Stop it
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 Жыл бұрын
@@WindyCity1992 where’s the ZL1 in this video? Lmao ZL1s still get bullied by bmws 😂 go back to driving your keyboard kid.
@MikeyG003
@MikeyG003 Жыл бұрын
@@WindyCity1992 don’t make me pull up fbo zl1 videos getting feelings hurt by just downpipe and tune F8x cars. Let’s not even talk about the g8x. Also, m4csl beat your holy grail zl1 on the Nurburgring. Try again. You can’t afford either anyways
@00CAMAROSSFTW
@00CAMAROSSFTW Жыл бұрын
A tune on force induction cars is such an advantage, even over a tuned NA car. Plus that BMW is unrated from the factory. Great runs
@pimpdaddyjuice9777
@pimpdaddyjuice9777 Жыл бұрын
Lt1 needs to slap shift and let that 10 speed do its thing…
@telliesmith9825
@telliesmith9825 Жыл бұрын
That m4 isn't stock smh
@armofiron7435
@armofiron7435 Жыл бұрын
Before seeing the race, I predict that Sam should change his "Let's roll" to "Let's spin!". lol Unprepped surface, no burnouts allowed. Very interesting match-up for the rolling race!
@itsjustWebbie
@itsjustWebbie Жыл бұрын
Sam needs to understand that if you can see someone's whole car in your mirrors, it's not a close race! 😂😂😂
@dankolicious10
@dankolicious10 Жыл бұрын
Would have been better if he ran a ZL1 and a Hellcat instead of the non boosted versions. Not really an equal or even fair comparison. Not only are they closer to the same price range of the M3, they are also boosted engines like the M3.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
I can do that too 😂
@billnye5183
@billnye5183 Жыл бұрын
He should bring out the M8 :) to keep it fair as well we all know an M8 is gonna destroy both of those
@dapurplert
@dapurplert Жыл бұрын
​@@billnye5183 So M8 vs Hellcat Redye Jailbreak? Or go all out with the Demon 170 for still much less cash for that M8 to trounce in a straight line race? 🤔
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын
​@@billnye5183 The M8 is awd It's literally slow without it.
@AP-go1ks
@AP-go1ks Жыл бұрын
F80 comp is beautiful. I have the F82. What performance.
@donbjorkland1386
@donbjorkland1386 Жыл бұрын
Great reporting for sure.
@altamashkhan3833
@altamashkhan3833 Жыл бұрын
Hi want to see which is fastest bmw m2 , m3 or m4. Even how much faster is m240i than m230i. 😜
@socleanmx6
@socleanmx6 Жыл бұрын
Why didnt you do a 3way race as usual . I love comparing shifts and just watching how it plays out in the power band.
@armofiron7435
@armofiron7435 Жыл бұрын
With the bumpy track that is not very wide, and three powerful cars that are RWD, it was probably safer 2 by 2 races.
@mirshahnawaz1391
@mirshahnawaz1391 7 ай бұрын
Impressive i love it 👍
@AAly-hf5mg
@AAly-hf5mg 7 ай бұрын
Nice job
@dedricfreeman3196
@dedricfreeman3196 23 күн бұрын
Love the Beamer but sometimes I just dont understand Sam. Why did he tune it?
@chrisflorian4308
@chrisflorian4308 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. Please go on with these amazing races. Awesome. I follow now your channel. A new G82 M3 against your F80 M3 Competition with this little software mod should be a close and interesting race !!! Best wishes Chris
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Tx you
@SkepticalVex
@SkepticalVex Жыл бұрын
the new g80 platform is insane, especially the xdrive.
@nallis01
@nallis01 Жыл бұрын
Man said it doesn't add HP then said "Wow! It's so much faster" as he launched like Space X. 😂😂😂😂😂. Anyway, thank you for the entertainment as usual. The bimmer is sick. In the market for a 2018 white convertible one with red interior for my wife as we speak.
@AntChiulli-Chiulli_RS
@AntChiulli-Chiulli_RS 9 ай бұрын
i have a 2023 3LT camaro rs v6 10 speed auto with the npp quad tips from the factory. id love to see it make an appearance on this channel, lots of the cars you race it will either do good against or win honestly i think people would enjoy seeing it beat an rt challenger of any year lol btw i made my camaro happen right when i turned 20! build y’all’s credit scores and save up this can be you!
@07acanoia
@07acanoia Жыл бұрын
The tune adds no HP? Don’t think you know what you’re talking anodyne..😂
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
Sam was cracking me up when he said damn that Camaro is fast as he's putting a monster gap on it😂
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
😬😬😬
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion Happy with the matchup just the same, and really impressed with how well your M3 moves out now!👍
@campbell0162
@campbell0162 9 ай бұрын
Monster gap would be a bit of a stretch.
@husnainkhan5717
@husnainkhan5717 7 ай бұрын
Superb
@vintagetriplex3728
@vintagetriplex3728 Жыл бұрын
The challenger and charger 392s are big boats. Most other cars with the same horsepower range beat them easily. Even the Audi RS3 that only has 401 horsepower easily blow the doors of these boats.
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube Жыл бұрын
True but at least they can serve the week without a mechanic because nothing drains a wallet faster than Germany junk
@justpray365
@justpray365 Жыл бұрын
@@Welcometofacsistube Having owed an Audi, (and know several people with BMW’s and Audi’s), I can testify to the accuracy of your statement. You should either be a mechanic, or have a best friend that works on German cars.
@susanestes418
@susanestes418 Жыл бұрын
You clowns are full of shit. I bitch slap European cars on the reg.
@billnye5183
@billnye5183 Жыл бұрын
@@Welcometofacsistube lmao idk what German junk you’re getting but the vehicles made in Germany don’t break down like this my bmw made in Germany has been rock solid with over 100K miles
@Slime_threezus
@Slime_threezus Жыл бұрын
@@billnye5183probably some old rusted out bmw they had when they were 16
@wilsonguerrero1710
@wilsonguerrero1710 Жыл бұрын
Oooh this should be a juicy race
@avengingeyes4041
@avengingeyes4041 Жыл бұрын
I love how he says that the tune is just Going to make the car shift faster 😆 But you know to really make it fair Since you're putting 1 of the best BMW M3 Competition Which I'm pretty sure doesn't go for 40k You should try one of the best cameras like a tuned Z28 OR ZR1 Camaro And see how that race goes
@GERONIMO326
@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын
Do the same upgrade to the Camaro and its faster. The Camaro is the better performance car specifically the 1LE and its not even close
@corvettezr1ism
@corvettezr1ism 4 ай бұрын
The f80 m3 comp makes about 450whp which is about 517 crank hp. They are underrated from factory. Plus a DCT and it makes sense. The m3 is also 200lbs lighter than the Camaro. Also the Camaro makes 400whp = 460 crank hp. And both cars are doing the exact same 1/4 mile times as stated by each OEM. So this is basically stock vs stock cars. The f80 m3 is pretty damn fast for an old car Either way the m3 would have beaten the Camaro even if it was stock
@AAly-hf5mg
@AAly-hf5mg 7 ай бұрын
Nice video
@josebruno5032
@josebruno5032 Жыл бұрын
Would rather see stock cars just race!! No ECU or anything added just stock!
@KunDragon
@KunDragon Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about F80 vs Hellcat vs ZL1 ? Stock Stock Stock and start from dig please ?
@hexagonosaurus5848
@hexagonosaurus5848 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@Gaptv1320
@Gaptv1320 Жыл бұрын
What exhaust u have on your f80 sam?
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
It’s an M Titanium Exhaust
@manthatspeakstruth5402
@manthatspeakstruth5402 Жыл бұрын
Nice line up..
@berlinsortiz7974
@berlinsortiz7974 Жыл бұрын
This is a good one , hello from midland texas
@Maljey
@Maljey Жыл бұрын
M3 from a dig ost likely, but I'll take the Camaro on a roll. Should be a good race either way!!!
@tizodd6
@tizodd6 Жыл бұрын
I love how the 392 isn't even mentioned😂
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 10 ай бұрын
Sam, the Awaken tune does add about 15% more hp and tq to a M3 Comp. So you are close to 500 hp and 449 tq
@JCorLC
@JCorLC Жыл бұрын
I knew it added horse power as soon as you said, " it so much quicker!" Hahaha
@TheMeanmarine13
@TheMeanmarine13 Жыл бұрын
Curious to see how the new Mustang GT Darkhorse edition would do against similar priced cars. Granted those become available soon.
@Top_g80comp
@Top_g80comp Жыл бұрын
Dark horse ?? 😂😂😂 what a stupid name
@andrewcapone3345
@andrewcapone3345 Жыл бұрын
"So I can do the weaving to bring the tires up to temperature"! "Sport mode all the way and windows up"...LOL
@NismoSupra
@NismoSupra Жыл бұрын
That M is no joke! The S55 is a primal beast.
@joshgessinger4509
@joshgessinger4509 Жыл бұрын
Well ya when u add boost u add HP but still ur BMW is very impressive for sure.
@goldeneye9381
@goldeneye9381 Жыл бұрын
What changes you have made in that M3 ? Waw its amazing to roll so lets roll always with that M3
@captainjinx42
@captainjinx42 11 ай бұрын
Great video… it really leaves me wishing for a bit more of a fair fight like a zl1 vs m3… a10 zl1 still costs almost 10k less. That m3 is great.
@YAsM-bk5kz
@YAsM-bk5kz Жыл бұрын
Sam , we need head to head M3 competition vs G70 (the one deafened Mustang and c43) .. plz favourly do that 🙏
@waltscrossfiresrt6
@waltscrossfiresrt6 Жыл бұрын
Tuned car vs stock cars is a no brainier the tuned car would win
@rockinromanphoto
@rockinromanphoto 4 ай бұрын
Even without the tune, bmw is rated at the wheels while the other two cars are rated at the crank.
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 Жыл бұрын
So basically they did a drive by wire response tune, probably fixed the trans tune and launch control ramping in boost quicker by advancing spark and timing. Which doesn’t translate to upping power but rather makes more power faster giving better times and response.
@dapurplert
@dapurplert Жыл бұрын
Nope, they added HP. Probably 50whp minimum.😂
@tommymanningart8864
@tommymanningart8864 Жыл бұрын
@@dapurplert 50whp? But it runs the exact 1/4 mile and 0-60 as stock? Now how does that make sense? You’re just butthurt the m3 is a faster car
@modernmusclecar1904
@modernmusclecar1904 4 ай бұрын
Roll racing in the Camaro. Use manual mode to keep it up in the revs..once you hit the cone ..punch it and put it into drive and let it shift itself.
@GoGetter-vl2kq
@GoGetter-vl2kq Жыл бұрын
That small tune gave you a big win each time 😂
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Result would have been the same even stock
@sohogen8482
@sohogen8482 Жыл бұрын
no
@392Low
@392Low Жыл бұрын
Stock m3 and m4 is still ridiculously fast
@mattsmith7379
@mattsmith7379 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion it would not have been sam sorry.
@huseynquliyev6944
@huseynquliyev6944 Жыл бұрын
​@@SamCarLegion Dodge Demon vs Shelby GT500 please
@Shafi_jokhio
@Shafi_jokhio 7 ай бұрын
Nice super ❤❤❤
@Duke52DDOJ
@Duke52DDOJ Жыл бұрын
We know the M3 is faster, but the best way to race those scats from a roll is to start in manual mode so you get the right gear, but switch to automatic as soon as the race starts because you can't shift better than the car can automatically.
@tommymanningart8864
@tommymanningart8864 Жыл бұрын
It would end in the same result
@jarrodconnolly954
@jarrodconnolly954 Жыл бұрын
Why did you race cars they weren’t tuned???
@MuhammadUmar-ip6ch
@MuhammadUmar-ip6ch 8 ай бұрын
Love you 🤟😘
@ZimConstantine
@ZimConstantine Жыл бұрын
The bmw m3 doesn't have the best launch in the world but I'd always bet on it to beat those American muscle cars The roll races are when things get interesting
@Hellenkeller777
@Hellenkeller777 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the American muscle cars didn’t have tunes. Not a very fair comparison IMO
@mb-pc3zn
@mb-pc3zn Жыл бұрын
@@Hellenkeller777 I'm a Mopar fan and I still admit that even if the 392 was tuned it would still loose to the M3.I hope that 392 was running on 275s.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын
Camaros aren't muscle cars. Neither are challengers. Both are pony cars. Just saying
@MuhammadUmar-ip6ch
@MuhammadUmar-ip6ch 7 ай бұрын
Feeling good
@1c3sly13
@1c3sly13 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like he's shifting the Camaro early and missing out on some top end.
@mackfar27
@mackfar27 Жыл бұрын
At least the Challenger looked good while losing. 💁🏽‍♂ The BMW though is on another level.
@mayfieldd357
@mayfieldd357 Жыл бұрын
I mean, they're not boosted compared to the m3, also heavier. It was a good video but not a fair race. Get those superchargers in and then we will see
@tommymanningart8864
@tommymanningart8864 Жыл бұрын
@@mayfieldd357 bro the m3 has less than half the displacement of a scat or a hellcat. It’s a German perfected car Vs an American boat muscle car than can barley take a corner. The m3 is a track ready fine tuned weapon. It’s no debate which is the better car
@mayfieldd357
@mayfieldd357 Жыл бұрын
@Tommy Manning Art stop the dick riding. I own an audi a4, so I love German as well. I appreciate and love cars period. The f80 m3 is 3600+lb vs. a challenger, which is pushing almost 4k lbs. One is turbocharged, and the other naturally aspirated. Why is this hard for you to understand ? Oh yeah, dick riding. Like I said, put the supercharger in the challenger and do a real drag.
@mayfieldd357
@mayfieldd357 Жыл бұрын
@Tommy Manning Art Also, you should check your research. These guys know cars, right? The f80 has a 0-60 of 2.8 vs. the challengers 4.2 seconds. F80 has significantly more torque as well, with the twin turbo, which is also an advantage over NA. You just wanted to act like you knew something when you clearly had a biased opinion from the jump. Even if it lost, you'd still dick ride. You're a clown.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын
​@@tommymanningart8864 M3s can't even beat camaros On Track. 99% of yall don't even Go to Track days. All 3 cars have Steering wheels. Grow up already
@TDream-hs1ju
@TDream-hs1ju Жыл бұрын
For those saying that he tuned his car, go watch his previous videos and his 1/4 mile time is pretty much the same. Those m3s are ridiculously fast!! Definitely faster than the good ole muscle cars!! The v8s sound better though 😂!!!💪👊👍
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Someone that pay attention
@josebruno5032
@josebruno5032 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion pays*
@geemanbmw
@geemanbmw Жыл бұрын
Let's Roll 👊🏼
@dogwithkatana485
@dogwithkatana485 Жыл бұрын
You need at least S58 to beat the S55
@jackdaniels2905
@jackdaniels2905 Жыл бұрын
Gotta have those digs.
@raymondkock6036
@raymondkock6036 10 ай бұрын
Was it not better to use the Camaro SS instead of the LT1?
@08turboSS
@08turboSS Ай бұрын
How would a heavier SS be a better choice?
@raymondkock6036
@raymondkock6036 Ай бұрын
@08turboSS the Camaro 2SS is 3696 lbs and the LT1 is like 3685 lbs. Both A10. So the 13 pound extra will make no difference. 2SS has better suspension, brakes, magneride, better wheels and has better balance than the LT1. My 2023 2SS hit the 1/4 mile 11.9 to 12.2 depending on how good the launch is. Completely stock. So the 1/4 mile time is verry similar to the M3 BMW
@doubleaaaron
@doubleaaaron Жыл бұрын
Tune + boost. But nobody ever mentions that. I tuned my turbo daytona and it only got 3 more psi and of course an actual tune and its a different car.
@tommymanningart8864
@tommymanningart8864 Жыл бұрын
The tune didn’t add an extra peak horsepower… it’s a driveline and transmission tune. It allows the car to use its power more effectively basically. It’s marginally faster to stock. Stock m3 comp runs the same 1/4 mile that same got
@danieljessberger1515
@danieljessberger1515 Жыл бұрын
Why the Challanger is behind 😮
@OldsLSSL67
@OldsLSSL67 Жыл бұрын
Too bad you converted back to stock. Would like to see your M3 vs the 2020 M550i.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Sold it
@srt392_ag6
@srt392_ag6 Жыл бұрын
A tuned 6.4 would be taking this the whole way. Seen this in person comp m3 with tune scat tuned scat 0-60 3.6 seconds. M3 4.1 seconds. Glad you got an amazing tuner sir!
@tommymanningart8864
@tommymanningart8864 Жыл бұрын
The m3 quarter mile times where the same before and after the tune. If an m3 gets over 4 second 0-60 it’s due to traction issues or poor driving skills. The scat pack is a far worse car than the m3. You can tune the m3 to vastly more power than the old 6.4 that 3.6 is probably the fastest you’ll ever get with a scat lol and the m3 almost does it stock
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 Жыл бұрын
​@@tommymanningart8864 Literally because of weight. Not rocket science
@Gchang54
@Gchang54 6 ай бұрын
Thats a stretch, hellcats have a hard time with tuned f80 m3s
@08turboSS
@08turboSS Ай бұрын
LOL scat will get scattered. Way to heavy and cant add much of any power on a stock NA vehicle, possibly 10-12 hp more which isnt going to make up a 3-4 car gap 😂
@srt392_ag6
@srt392_ag6 27 күн бұрын
@@08turboSS you literally don't have a single bit of knowledge on this. My 6.4 is 600 at crank with no blower/cam/porting. A procharger would add 100 herspers with ease with 5lb. If you don't know about mopars nor American made muscle, just don't speak.
@ruki7602
@ruki7602 Жыл бұрын
Like to see a power measurement
@mikespano6339
@mikespano6339 Жыл бұрын
It didn’t even look like the challenger was lined up with you and hit it at the same time
@karl662
@karl662 Жыл бұрын
I don't doubt the outcome, but next time have a third person counting out the start. There may be a slight advantage when it's the person racing...even subconsciously. Kind of expected that the M3 would be faster in the 1/4 mile...it's lighter.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
The roll race makes zero difference to be honest. We roll at the same time. The drag race we have a person flagging
@backtodalobbybot2754
@backtodalobbybot2754 Жыл бұрын
i don’t think any owner of a dodge challenger or charger should ever expect to win a race unless it’s a hellcat or above
@gtifury310
@gtifury310 11 ай бұрын
You're kidding yourself if you didn't think the tune added any power lol. Yes, stock for stock the F80 is faster than both those cars, but not by that much.
@mikestuart5119
@mikestuart5119 Жыл бұрын
Standing starts ????
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Yes dont skip
@rohancampbell935
@rohancampbell935 Жыл бұрын
The tuning sounds pretty much exactly like what my pedal commander does for $299… 🤔
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
About the same but better response from engine to transmission
@reloadingdontshoot1
@reloadingdontshoot1 Жыл бұрын
As someone with a pedal commander, AND in the process of getting a proper tune, I cant wait to feel the difference from what just the pedal commander does
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
@@reloadingdontshoot1 it’s not a pedal commander just map tweak to get better engine response and transmission
@08turboSS
@08turboSS Ай бұрын
Peddle Comm adds a little zip off the line and crisp throttle response but wont make the vehicle quicker with adding power. I def wouldnt put one of those on anything either.
@adikarobinson8380
@adikarobinson8380 Жыл бұрын
just watched this video before readings comments and I'm thinking there is no way the M3 walks on both cars w/o the tune adding power. why not have the camaro and challenger run the same race at least once during the session?
@ROBMACDUI
@ROBMACDUI Жыл бұрын
I hope nobody is surprised that a vehicle costing twice as much is faster. Why arent we comparing the cost equivelent such as a Corvette and Hellcat?
@08turboSS
@08turboSS Ай бұрын
Quicker not faster, use the correct word
@Ty-lr1uw
@Ty-lr1uw Жыл бұрын
Mustang vs camaro please sam!
@doggystyledave
@doggystyledave 11 ай бұрын
1. "The goal is fuel efficiency." 2. "It puts out 444 horsepower - the tune doesn't really add any horsepower." 3. " Let's see what this thing does with the tune." 4. " Oh my God this thing is so much faster!" 😅😅😅
@danfriesen4417
@danfriesen4417 Жыл бұрын
If those Challengers didnt weigh as much as a dump truck they'd be quite a bit quicker.
@socleanmx6
@socleanmx6 Жыл бұрын
Sam if you think the dodge makes more power its comical lol....Bmw underrates there cars hp and torque by at minimum 50hp on all there turbo cars
@08turboSS
@08turboSS Ай бұрын
There cars?? where?
@08turboSS
@08turboSS Ай бұрын
Bmws are underrated by about 20-25hp and tq, def not 50 😂.
@dirtsailoroff-road5580
@dirtsailoroff-road5580 Жыл бұрын
I think a hellcat would be a better match for a tuned M3 Competition
@oscarfernandez2223
@oscarfernandez2223 Жыл бұрын
They should go whit the M4 base on the model of the other cars been coupes 😑😏
@khmermafia781
@khmermafia781 21 күн бұрын
BMW M3 POWER!
@Platos-Den
@Platos-Den Жыл бұрын
Sam stick with the 3 car drag format. I dont get it. You had 3 drivers, so why a 2 car race? Like your show.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
A 3 rwd car race tends to be a bit inconsistent, and it wasn’t about 3 cars racing, it was my car racing 2 other cars. Instead of making 2 videos I put them together.
@1pharaohstreams
@1pharaohstreams 11 ай бұрын
I wanna see the Challenger vs the Camaro
@dj1nnie
@dj1nnie Жыл бұрын
Are you selling your M3 @samcarlegion ?
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Yes
@dj1nnie
@dj1nnie Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion sad to see the M3 go 😞 would you stick with a performance car for your new one or it will be like a more family oriented one with much lower monthly payment now that we have Sam Jr ? 😀
@YOSEMITE_Sami
@YOSEMITE_Sami Жыл бұрын
I wish If there was a mustang
@rskundert
@rskundert Жыл бұрын
German ingeneering 20 years ahead of the US.
@yoboytamer3348
@yoboytamer3348 Жыл бұрын
Tune and down pipes on a s55 is not a small tune those cars stock compare to Each other why would you run a stock 392 and SS against its rival but tuned the rival when it’s supposed to run those cars stock
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
I don’t have downpipe?
@dickheadcentral6974
@dickheadcentral6974 Жыл бұрын
Confusing video a tune with no bhp only throttle response.? But you say in the video this is so much faster now..can we just dyni it ti confirm no hp increase 😅
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
Nice youtube name 😂
@dickheadcentral6974
@dickheadcentral6974 Жыл бұрын
@@SamCarLegion come on fare comment.. Is it just a ecu flash for fast throttle response
@Yoomaro
@Yoomaro Жыл бұрын
M3 🔥
@justpray365
@justpray365 Жыл бұрын
That’s not how you shift an 8 speed automatic. You leave it in drive, press the paddle to the desired gear, and floor it and let the computer shift it. You would think “professionals” would know the car’s better.
@jefferysalley8259
@jefferysalley8259 Жыл бұрын
Exactly smh.
@SamCarLegion
@SamCarLegion Жыл бұрын
We did auto and manual shift exactly on both cars. Similar mode for both cars.
@S8ER
@S8ER Жыл бұрын
Thats not true with dodge... you manually drop or auto mode leaves you in the wrong gear. The trick with dodge is to start manual mode and then put it back into automatic as the laggy tach causes you to shift at the wrong rpms or hit the rev limiter.
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