Hey crew what would you name a remake

If only they did something meaningful in that shit reboot.

Oof. Can we get a few Fs in chat for creativity?

So a painless sacrifice. Maybe if he used his robot hand to shoot the whole movie and had to rely on his humanity once more, but he shoots with human hand anyway.

@@lunalegion bruh yall say "shit reboot" like the robocop series wasnt always the corniest shit ever lmfao the fuck you mean

@@haggis0257 Nah mate, Robo uses his robot hand to kill, and his human hand for pleasure. 😏😏

really? damn like the Jedi aren't great at the best of times but stopping someone from learning a healing technique for no good reason is horrible.

@@fairystail1 it's not force heal specifically, there's a vault called the restricted section that's only available to masters. It's filled with prophecies, advanced techniques, and almost everything about sith and the darkside. One of the old EU books mentions that this, along with the temple being built on a sith shrine, is how Palpatine clouded the order's vision and diminished their connection to the force. A monument to their hubris. Hence converting the temple into the imperial palace.

What? WHY WOULD THEY CUT THAT OUT, THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE!!

@@seasnaill2589 they cut out a few hours of film. Mainly for time.

@@fairystail1 Not for no reason. That which can be used for good can also be used for evil. Not everything that can be saved should be saved. It is against the code of the Jedi to interfere with life and death unless completely necessary. Only a master can make the determination as to whether or not something is necessary

I prefer the original as well but I also like the idea of him slowly having his humanity stripped away as the company starts exerting more of their control over him. Idk it’s the difference of a robot thinking it’s a man vs a man who slowly realizes he’s a robot

*Cyborgisation*

Their entire idea is evil and makes them monsters though. Then attempting to make a loophole out of forcing a man to obey their every will in a robo body as an idea is evil.

The fact he heard them say this between periods of consciousness is very dark and savage.

Not including it is like having a slasher film that doesn't kill the couple having sex or doesn't kill the black guy.

They could have used a similar effect to the face in the original for the hand, essentially showing that it's just a facade for (in-universe) PR.

This small rewrite would have made the movie 1000x better. I mean everything else about the movie would still be bad but this is definitely a step in the right direction.

It's even better than that. Saving his right hand is also a set-up for the reveal that *Murphy is left-handed* and his human instinct is to draw and fire his weapon from the *left* side. This means that later on in the movie, Murphy shooting with his right hand is a tell that the machine is in control. My guess is that the symbolism was deemed too confusing for test audiences.

The remake makes murphy undergo the opposite process compared to the original, in the remake he gradually loses his humanity, while in the original he is remade into a machine and his human self slowly awakens during the course of the film.

The Terminator inquires about humans crying in a different scene which has always been in the film

@@Ron_Connor The cut scene is where John and Sara Conor take out the Terminators learning inhibitor chip "WHICH" sets up the later scene where the Terminator explains that he's learned why humans cry. I didn't say that scene was cut. I said the cut scene sets up that later scene which is not cut.

What? That scene wasn’t cut. Unless the dvd release is different from the theater release. Every dvd I’ve ever seen of terminator 2 has that scene in it

@@roughfoxy101 In the theatrical release they cutout the conversation where Sarah asks the Terminator "what's to keep you from going rogue" and the terminator tells her about the inhibitor chip. They just cut straight to Sarah pulling bullets out of the Terminator and John asking if the Terminator feels pain.

@@afrolund80 huh, I feel strange I didn’t know that. I guess dvd’s have just spoiled me lol

Genius idea

They said during the training bits that they intended the computer bits to make it feel like he was making decisions when it was in fact the computer making those decisions. So it was supposed to be a fake hand purely for pr purposes. He's not actually supposed to have any real humanity left. But in regards to free will, instead of organics

yeah. sometimes people read way too much into things.... or too little.

it’s not his real face, his whole head got blown up. they try to recreate it the best they can off of his skull, which is why the mark is there.

No it was made by people who were not allowed to watch the move when they were kids. So experienced it through toy ads.

The sad thing is that they got the perfect director for the remake, and then completely refused to give him creative control.

Infidels, that is sacrelig to the original😡😤

80s were an interesting time. ​@NatsumenoKage

Between all of the courtroom scenes that were added back in, and the removal of the awful love story, it's almost like a completely different movie.

You learn who killed Murphy at the end. It's called the credits.

@@vxicepickxv trick question. Murphy didn't die in the remake.

He absolutely should be called CyboCop. That would be a good title for the knockoff film.

all it took was being high

Been there I had mushrooms and edibles for the last season of stranger things lol

Mushrooms and sitting near the front for The Matrix! Tripped me out.

@@BrickNewton never thought of that 🤔

I think the remake of Total Recall did something similar in changing a fundamental part of the original and it falling apart as a result; they removed the fact there were people with mutations. While it seems like a minor detail that you can surely do without because 'what does it actually add to the original?' it's actually absolutely vital to the plot. The entire reason they go through with the mind wipe thing to make Quaid the most convincing spy possible is because there were rumours the rebel leader had a mutation that let him read minds. Quaid HAD to not know so the rebels couldn't find out from him. The remake did away with the mutant aspect to make it more realistic and, as a result, the whole movie stops making any sense because why do the mind wipe in the first place??

​@@tpbloomfield It also did such a good job making the end in such a way it makes you entirely question if it was real or all the "Blue Skies over Mars" simulation, all by simply ending showing Blue Skies forming over Mars then fading to black.

I would say the fact Murphy didn't die in the reboot makes it a bit more sinister because now he has to question whether or not his actions are his own or someone else controlling him like before. It would be a constant reminder that he isn't really "himself" any more.

@@jovenc4508 A more competent creative team would have ran with this concept and made something special.

@@YEs69th420 I don't know about any of the other scenes, but the unveiling of how much of Alex is left, as Alex sees his entire body dismantled, was really well done. It hit me right in the dread in a scene that, as a tech nerd, would have otherwise made me fascinated. The begging way Alex wants to be put back together nailed it with the horror and quiet despair after the building way the anxious disbelief ratchets up and up. That scene alone tells me that they were _capable_ , it's just that for some reason they somehow didn't connect that, the scene where he's made to run through sims and his thoughts are "adjusted for efficiency", and the whole... rest of the film together. Like if I showed you just the sim training and the reveal of what's left that's human scenes, you'd think it's a great film about psychological horror, body horror, and the concept of free will and brainwashing in service of a corporation-owned privatized police force paramilitary, but... The reboot somehow manages to take the old RoboCop, successfully _inverts_ the premise (rather than the soul and its humanity reawakening from the body's memory, it's the soul's memories reawakening humanity despite the body being missing), and then completely fails nail the REST of the commentary Verhoeven put in it.

I have a recurring fantasy about a film called *_Deleted Scenes,_* which is made up entirely of deleted scenes -- some are actual deleted scenes from films (famous or obscure), some are faked (with CGI or just with actors doing an approximation of the original performers, or faked deleted scenes from animated films done in the original film's style). Some would be things like the CGI-recreated crevasse scene from the 1933 *_King Kong,_* or the CGI recreation of the unfilmed finale to Hitchcock's *_The Birds_* (with the car driving across a Golden Gate Bridge with thousands of birds perching on it) which ought to be filmed. Some would be comedic bits similar to the "alternate ending" to *_It's a Wonderful Life_* shown on *_Saturday Night Live._* Not sure whether it would have a framing sequence of people stumbling upon a hidden stash of deleted footage, or a pair of critics pompously critiquing the scenes, or if they'd just be a bunch of deleted scenes spliced together.

My parents for sure saw it. Still let me have the toy,lol

It is pretty on brand.

It is a fan theory that if I remember correctly had some good evidence but it will never be more than headcanon. I belive that he meant the series snowpiercer which I think is pretty great and it do go places.

Same

I always thought this was the original ending? Maybe it was an international release thing because I'm in OZ

Should have been

I thought the hanging ending was the normal ending

The one I saw first was he just told her off at a childs bday party 🥳 and that somehow magically fixed everything and he's just walking around normal. They just ignore his hemorrhages and made it happy go lucky bs Hanging one is way better. Makes his mom having a bunch of miscarriages before him have weight also

You'd be better off watching the four films after Robocop 3 and the TV show, they're bad but still better than the remake.

​@@scottneil1187 there are 4 MORE films after Robocop 3????

Please explain?!​@@scottneil1187

As an ancient bog lady i have to say: fuck yeah, you youngings are killing it

Original Equalizer was awesome, loved the theme tune.

i was ok with that "the human spirit" thing was what bothered me

I reckon its a missed opertunity to have a hand thats freaky like the OG robocops face.

Dont forget the transformation scene from AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON the entire scene was done using " live effects "

Like seeing him in altered carbon was was amazing

I thought differently. He was lying to his wife, trying to save her the pain of thinking this was her husband. He was telling her it's a fake rubber face, "build to honour him" so that she thinks her husband is dead and can go on with her life. It was Murphy trying to spare his wife with a lie.

They made this to honor him... showed his humanity... he wanted his wife to be at ease. Him saying to her. I DONT KNOW YOU he said so that she was no longer tortured thinking what could be and move on with her life. He also showed humanity... showing comfort to an enemy that had tortured him because he knew he was a dying scared little kid. They really dropped the ball with part 2.. should of been so much better

It doesn't. The one scene where it appears to be on the left side is when his body is disassembled to show the remains of Murphy. That scene is shown to us through a mirror.

I actaully like the scene in the new movie where they show how much organics are left of Murphy. It's terrifying, well acted and the best part of the whole movie imo. The original movies have him get dismembered too, but it's a puppet at that point and you can't really emphasize with his situation in the same manner.

@@jenvas Fair enough. Different eras I guess. Old enough to have seen OG Robocop back in the day. At the time it was quite brutal and the film had that dark, dirty quality/texture of that era. Which admittedly could've dated by now. For me the new one is just too clean and sterile and the hand comes off as just weird/funny. Maybe if he had a bit more bits underneath connecting him🤔 The head and lungs alone would've worked for me, but just this little floaty appendage😆

@@itswilbur3747 I can see that about the hand. First time viewing that scene I was just focussed on the dehumanization and the frailty of the bits that are left of him. The OG movies are of course better about everything (the first two atleast)

​@@jenvas Nah, the scene in 2 where he's in bits still gets me all these years later, I felt nothing for the awful cg mess remake version.

@@scottneil1187 the scene from the remake uses the actual actors face and that's what I my focus was drawn to. The scene from 2 just doesn't work for me with that goofy puppet.