Listening to this video in my parents' oval office with my second pair of Everyday Ear buds Yep seems legit

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No I like head phone’s

piers Doesn’t Count Since He Doesn’t Know TEAM YELL’S Motives. He’s More Of An Antihero.

What about Penny? Isnt she technical the Leader and Founder of Team Star? She wasnt a Villain in the traditional sense, but we had other cases like this in this Video!

Bro joined the 27 club

He said he was emotionally incapable of feeling, or implied ig that he touched a mesprits tails (this is in the canalave library, that touch not its body, for in 3 days all emotion will be gone or something... Anyway I think he was tired of being the only one to understand what it was like to feel that way? Not able to be happy anymore

Maybe it was Sinjoh Village back in his day?

What about the mention of Sinjoh in the ancient texts that existed long before Kamodo arrived?

It fits with the theory that he comes from the Lake of Rage area.

Cogita mentions Sinjoh and speaks of it as a separate area

pokemon masters has manga references so it makes sense that would be allowed to use darker stuff since the manga is gory.

wait if that were to happen meaning the team they used to be could possibly be the mossdeep space center or sea mauville i guess?? Since they both have a model of a ship that hasn't gotten a single dust in their offices

What if that already happened , but Archy used Jirachi to wish that Maxi never met Deoxys!? Back in the good time line with mega evolution.

@@therumjiggler6879 he probably have never seen Deoxys in person but i think he found out about the existence of it and the meteorite and kept it in secret so the other scientists wouldn't know about it. So their former goal was to go to space and investigate the space virus, but Archie refused (assuming he probably feared that Jirachi might be living somewhere in space and die from a Doom Desire something like that) and that's how the beef comes in. It could possibly be and how they parted their ways to help/wipe off humanity. Though this is just how i speculated their pasts or something.

It never dawned on me that Jirachi and Deoxys were a pair of mythicals, but it really makes sense with the whole out space motif they have.

​@@therumjiggler6879that doesn't make any sense at all.

He's spent his entire life wishing he wasn't born so that checks out

I thought Rose was Indian too until I saw his brother

@@BJGvideos Peony absolutely adores his daughter. Laxmi Mittal's brother spent 82 million on his daughter's wedding in Barcelona. It just fits man 😅

@@theindiancop No I was saying that Peony is clearly black. Not that there aren't black Indians but you know what I mean.

They both have that eerie look in their eye too

The originals were villains themselves though. Why not just count them?

@@BJGvideos Um.... Not sure how you see them as full fledge villains but sure i guess? They weren't villains. They were just dedicated to their research. Arven didn't know they died until after we brought him down. He thought they abandoned him instead. Were they the best of parents? No. But that doesn't make them villains. hence why i said "villains" in quotes. They're not the usual type of villain. Just made out to seem like one.

@@Mizumii25You could make that argument with just about any villain in the Pokémon series. Lusamine, for example: you could say that she’s not truly a villain in the sense that she’s dedicated to her ultra beast research to try and get her husband back and neglected her children in the process. In her case, she ends up either becoming so obsessed with ultra beasts she’s willing to destroy Alola to get them, or going off to catch Ultra Necrozma to save Alola, and in the real Sada and Turo’s case, they were willing to sacrifice Paldea’s environment to bring interdimensional pokemon to the present day, stating that their environment abnormalities were “a fact of life.” Here’s another example to throw out there: Colress. In the games at least, he was just a scientist researching the bond between people and Pokémon, and the only reason he’s a part of team plasma is to further said research. He does no actual harm in the games, and actually is a pretty useful ally in alola. I wouldn’t consider him a real villain, but technically speaking he is one in BW2. In conclusion, Sada and Turo may not be intended to be painted as villains, but they’re still the region’s main villains regardless

@@Mizumii25 That's not what makes them the villain. Being willing to destroy Paldea for their research is what makes them villains.

@@BJGvideosI believe a more appropriate term would be to call them antagonists, their actions were the catalyst for most of the plot, but not necessarily evil in the way that constitutes villainy.

Honestly, Hoenn's story could have been so much better if the two teams had started as one, but split off into two. Say, Maxie and Archie worked for an organization that studied the environment, and the organization determined that Kyogre and-or Groudon were starting to wake up, so the organization created two teams, each with the purpose of studying one of the legends, to try to find a way to divert the coming disaster, with Maxie and Archie being selected as team leaders. They aren't introduced as antagonists, but they do become increasingly desperate over the course of your interactions with them, and eventually, one or both of them comes into contact with one of the orbs, Maxie with the Red Orb in Ruby and Emerald, and Archie with the Blue Orb in Sapphire and Emerald. The orbs, physical manifestations of the wills of Kyogre and Groudon respectively, then compelled Maxie and Archie to return the orb to the respective legend. This wouldn't be out of place, as the orbs showed this effect in both the anime and the manga, and it's only in the games where the orbs were treated as inert objects without their own will. In Ruby and Sapphire, the non-afflicted team attempts to figure out what happened to their counterpart and tries to stop them. In Emerald, with both teams being afflicted by an orb, they start to fight each other as a manifestation of the animosity between the two legends. In either case, we, the player, get drawn up into the conflict, and it's only after the Titans are subdued and the orbs are sealed away on Mt. Pyre that those afflicted by them realize what was happening, that they had been used to bring about what it was that they were trying to prevent, and that if they hadn't been so desperate to try to use the orbs, Kyogre and Groudon likely wouldn't have awoken in the first place. That storyline, I think, would have resulted in a more compelling character-driven arc for both teams that went beyond "Imma commit eco terrorism because I like land/water - oh, wait, that's _bad_??? Why did no one tell me!?", and it would have made the regret that Maxie and Archie expressed at the end actually feel justified and more real.

I remember years ago seeing some fanart of Maxie and Archie as Team Rocket members implying that the organization they were in was Team Rocket. I don't know if there's Canon evidence for that or if it's just a theory/headcanon people have come up with.

What if we/they had to kill kyorge/Groupon to stop it waking up? What's a worse crime, allowing the whole world to be destroyed, or destroying 1/2 pokemon?

Pretty sure that would be assault? Is that right beating up another human being 😂

Doesn't Rowan even visit the lake of rage in Diamond and pearl prior to the story starting?

Originally there was slated to be a town there. Maybe they used the fact that it was scrapped as a backstory.

crazy how this man tried to drown people inside a building with water in a form of kyogre

Ah I'll have to read that. I love Cyrus.

I would never have understood this is refrecinging anything as a child

Ikr. Such a sad story there. But I also feel like it may be better that they're not, since this man knew his grandson was suffering but did nothing to help.

Rose is as well

@@BJGvideos Rose is actually implied to be from the past of the same timeline, but not from a different timeline/universe

@@NagKai_G He's from the past pretty explicitly

@@BJGvideos that's just reaffirming what I said

Yeah that's called a brain stroke😬

My late grandfather was actually paralyzed from one side of his body before I was born.

A popular fan theory was he was attacked by his own hydreigon because it has max power frustration which means it really hates him

Another popular theory is that it’s frostbite from failing to catch Kyurem.

@@charziz6693 Nah. I think the Hydreigon theory is more likely.

Yell were at least a public nuisance who tried to annoy people into giving up their dreams of being champion. But yeah they're just sports hooligans. Galaxy was totally antagonistic. Kamado was going to go to war with the local clans if they aided you, and Beni is very heavily implied to have killed on Kamado's orders before. Agreed on the AIs and professors. Idk why so many people don't consider the professors to be villains. Like wtf did you play the game.

I was terrified. But honestly I was mostly concerned for the AI. They were so sweet and didn't deserve what the professor did to them.

I haven't even played the game and I was unnerved...I knew there was something wrong with them...and the master ball?!!

How come giovanni didn't get a master ball before making mewtwo🙄

I KNOW RIGHT?!

He's more of an antihero

Kamado is totally a villain

Volo is the villain, Kamado only made the mistake of casting the player out from the village. Me personally, I would say I would have been angry enough to admass an army of Alpha Lopunny♀️ and burn the village to the ground, but luckily Pokemon Games don't have a morality mechanic.

@@coolguy5133 It had more than one villain. Kamado threatens to go to war with the clans if they help you, and Beni very strongly implied that Kamado has ordered him to kill before and will do so again.

@@BJGvideos he was a man just doing what he thought he must. Kamado and the other founding villagers did supposedly leave Galar because of the Original Darkest Day and possibly lost almost everything. Volo is a real villain because he mad because God never answered his prayers.

In the anime, Jirachi wished up a fake Groudon. In the manga, Jirachi wished up a fake Kyogre.

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Eternatus was more a force of nature, having no control nor moral compass

Heck, when the security system starts talking through the AIs, it's credited to the original professor. This is their words, their actions, their malice, forced through their own double.

The ais aren't responsible, it's those who programmed them to behave that way? Like mind controlled pokemon

True

Your first and it’s a good day

Side game villains need trivia too!

Glad you like them!

Necrozma was more or less doing what it had to to survive

It's a random thing, but I'm glad they fleshed him out a bit

my bros were too powerful for this vid

Lmao

well....they aren't evil at the time, but in the future at least lol

In the manga canon, yes. Since Colress was made a complete, unreformed villain in it, they had to use a disguised characters to make "him" appear in Alola.

There's another surprise related to that. See, you see these paintings on the walls of the Diamond or Pearl clan houses. But both of them have the SAME painting too, of a redheaded man, in a different art style. The assumption is that this is the vaunted Ancient Hero. Go to one of the houses and look at this picture. You'll be quite surprised

@@BJGvideos i just looked! That's super cool!! Thank you for letting me know

Yeah and when the security system, the one that's actually trying to stop you, talks, it's identified as the professor rather than the AI.

oras literally confirmed that they were in the same team cuz it was stated in the video itself

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Ghetsis originally got arrested but escaped.

The original backstory for Mewtwo said it was created in Guyana

That was the past

@@aureliamastergoomba1278 Yeah but it's still there

@@BJGvideos they probably would change that now.

Must be misremembering. There's nothing like that in the game, to my knowledge, and I've gone through everything there is to find in Mauville City and Sea Mauville.

@@wikiuser92 Maybe it was a fan theory or something...if so it was a WHILE ago

@@darkcerabrate Completely possible.

It's not officially stated but that was the distinct impression I got too.

No it wasn't. They didn't implement that until third gen which is when the "his kid has red hair" line appeared

I wonder if they'll ever take this anywhere or if we'll see silver again

He was going to war with the clans if they helped you yes he's a villain

@@BJGvideos but why? Because he thought YOU were harming his people and Pokémon. There's a difference. He's not hatching an evil plot or doing anything out of malice. Jeeez, learn what a villain is. When you fight him, he's on his way to do the thing that you're gonna do.

@@jaybeeme Yes, learn what a villain is. Someone who threatens to go to war with sovereign people if they make their own designs is a villain move.

@@BJGvideos I'm not going to continue to argue with an idiot. I've seen your vids...