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I mean if they end up selling a better product than Apple, why not? Apple is a rip off even if they over-engineer

If they bothered doing that, then they would just sell their own quality product.

​@@gesarts3625But that wouldn't sell, because it doesn't scream: _"LOOK AT ME, I'M AM APPLE PRODUCT!"_ As well as: _"LOOK AT ME, I OWN APPLE PRODUCTS!"_ 😉

@@gesarts3625 They could, but they couldn't sell if for the same price as Apple products, at least not as successfully. But by pretending to be Apple, they can.

...and sometimes the knockoff actually "feels" better. I have several electronic devices where the knockoff is actually a better experience to use than the official one. Of course we have to tear apart our devices to see inside vs having access to expensive equipment and 2 guys to run it.

@@PowerScissor Knockoff products are not counterfeit. Toasted Oats is a generic knockoff of Cheerios, for example. Counterfeit is selling Toasted Oats in a Cheerios box. It's fraud. You might find a generic item that is superior to the product they're knocking off, but you _will not_ find a "better experience" with counterfeit products.

It’s been known for years that the authorities that inspect currency only study the authentic articles. Such as bank notes and cash bills. When a fake gets passed to them they can tell something is out of specification. 💪👍💰

Nor do we have a CT scanner to look inside.

They have legit s/n too. Easiest way is to call either Apple or local authorized repair place, and ask them to check repair history of the serial. If they’re fake, they’ll have warranty claims from all over the world.

I wonder why...

Once again,I wish humans would think lol Completely factoring OUT any possible financial incentive,which would only further the show,and Adam,and the team as whole anyhow,how else does one expect to see what's going in inside of an apple product? Without destroying it? Or,without the option of having Apple themselves provide any information about products,and their inner workings? Honestly.Give me ONE good reason why this is an issue,other than you just wanting to whine about it?

@@jeffdroog And then there's people like you that are self-righteously indignant. You can blame corporate greed for all of this. Corporate greed WANTS to keep wages low so they can further amass wealth. What's the wealthiest company in the world right now? Apple, at about $3,000,000,000,000 in market value. But it doesn't end there, no. Corporate greed and capitalism has pushed the majority of the citizens of the most powerful countries in the world into poverty. Unacceptable wages compared to cost to live are rampant in both the US and China as well as many others. Tell me how this happens in both capitalism and communism based economies. Pure, unchecked and unrestrained greed. Greed that knows the fines are often less than the profitability of illegal acts. This rampant greed pushes the masses into buying the cheapest functional products they can, but we're still vain. Apple is an image brand. If people can look like they use Apple, they get that escapism feeling of not being or appearing poor. if they can get that feeling without spending as much money, they will do it. Because Apple, Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, and all their copycats have raised two generations of narcissism into our societies now. I'll give you a good reason with complete disregard to all the above: Spotlighting Apple like this as "the only" premium brand is an endorsement exclusive to Apple and not others who also make premium products. It's not a fair distinction. If they aren't going to name the counterfeit, then they shouldn't be naming the original either. If they aren't going to present premium alternatives, then they shouldn't be naming Apple. In a nutshell; this is an ad that skirts around officially being an ad which comes off as scummy. "This video is part of a sponsored series with Lumafield, and is not affiliated or sponsored in any way by Apple." rings very hollow with this presentation. That's how it feels to skeptics and cynics.

@XionEternum You can't admit to being a skeptic,and a cynic,and then expect anything you think,or believe,actually carries any weight.

I wish they would compare similarly priced alternatives as well as other cheap products that are not trying to be deceptive; Earbuds that are made to be affordable, what is inside them compared to the fake apple look-a-likes?

It's not novel, but tech for it has improved like GaN, and If you look around you'll find that chargers of different qualities do give different quality of power to the device, from good chargers you get cleaner power without so many spikes as it happens with not so good quality ones, this helps for the overall lifetime of your device

Between this and the freaking cruise ship series that were obviously hidden advertisement, I'm getting very scared for this channel. Never thought I'd see Adam Savage and Tested go down to this level.

This just look like genuine curiosity to me. Besides, who cares if they're sponsored? Adam and tested have the right to take sponsorships and make a profitable channel.

@@Zydros250 mate, just because you don't care about obscured advertising and don't see a problem, doesn't mean there isn't one. This is advertising that is not stated to be advertising. There is nothing wrong with being sponsored, but acting like your comments are genuine or endorsements, without admitting you are being paid is not only morally reprehensible, it is in most cases illegal, because people should know if they are being advertised to.

This is the second Apple like add i have seen. The one about he charging cables was also sus. It didn't even use the same cable type to compair

One of the principals of Lumafield was a significant person at Apple for a while who helped develop the iPod and the iPhone. He hasn’t worked there since 2008 so I don’t think that connection is the source of this, but in my opinion this series and this marketing push feels like a sales pitch to Apple. Like Lumafield tries to be VERY pro-Apple and paint them in the best light, and then approaches them to negotiate outfitting their engineering teams with scanners or even just setting up a sponsored press run in the future or get first looks at their new products. Apple products could also be chosen here because they are so ubiquitous and a lot of people want to see under the hood, but that theory is messed up by the overly positive tone and strange lopsided comparison of the cable video. I’m likely completely wrong about the motivations of this whole thing, but when videos like this feel so strange and one sided you have to wonder what that feeling goes back to.

Hey, you sound just like my neurologist looking at my skull scan ;-)

totally depends on the cheaper charger, especially with the USB-C ports. I've seen some adapters with USB-C and no power negotiation (USB power delivery) , that one put out one voltage that could destroy your hardware. as long as it has the Power Delivery with that cheaper one it should be fine

​@@ShockburnVRI have no problem with counterfeit things if they do what they're functionally supposed to do because at that point you're paying extra for superficial details like if my 3 dollar charge brick charges my hypothetical iPhone and it won't light on fire illl take iiiiiiiiit

A (very)cheap standard USB charger completely killed my previous phone(with a bang in the charger), so yeah don't assume they're all "fine". In my life I'd never had a problem with power adaptors, let alone with what should always just have been a 5V DC output, so I didn't even think about it beforehand. Some are perfectly fine, others aren't.

I would be worried about the isolation in the fake. The wire insulation in the transformer could break down and all of the sudden, you've got 240V AC on your output. Cheap chargers can and have killed people. It may appear to be working fine until you touch your laptop or phone and something grounded at the same time and now you can't let go.

Couldn't agree more, these type of videos really hit the integrity of the channel.

What’s the problem with them comparing real vs fake apple products? Should he do Louis Vuitton instead?

@@billdivine9501 Them making false claims in favor of the Apple products based on pure speculation.

You are the droid we are looking for! Boy up!

I was hoping for some more interesting discussion of either the scanning tech or the counterfeits. I don't really care which, just expected more meat on this bone.

Damn, I'm buying a lanyard right now!

@@itemushmush well it’s only the metal part of the loop that acts as an antenna. Getting a lanyard doesn’t really make a difference for signal lol

@@huntershortrepairs😂

One lanyard= one metre?

@@NullScar only if it’s a metal lanyard 😅

I mean the real issue is it's not clearly presented as an ad , but that's a really big issue.

Yes, this is very disappointing behaviour from Adam and Tested. Hope Adam reads these comments and realises that we aren't drinking his Coolaid.

Half his videos are him reviewing something he got sent for free, all in the hope that we the viewers will buy them. This is no different.

Yes, same here, the OEM brick can barely deliver enough power - given how hot it got from day 1 on - and definitely has less margin than some of the similar bricks from IBM/Lenovo, HP, etc. Apple products might look & feel premium, technically they're definitely not AAA products, I'd take any Taiwan or Korean brand over Apple branded products when it comes to reliability !

Being cooler to the touch on a power supply is not necessarily a good thing. You want the power supply to be efficient which means Les heat is produced overall but you also want for it to dissipate the heat produced as fast as possible and avoid concentrate it on one point, that could cause a lot of problems. Also you want to make it capable of handling a bad current (which definitely will cause more heat) without passing it to your device. You can bet the OEM charger will do this the right way, and there are third party companies that make even better chargers like those with properly applied GaN tech. That a cheap charger is not getting hot is not necessarily a sign that it's working right, it could be just fine but we won't without testing it.

@@walkinmn What a bunch of gibberish. A poor charger will cook itself or melt in short fashion if the heat doesn't dissipate. If a charger stays cool for a long time, that's a sign of an efficient charger.

and you really think taking things apart is the only way to solution? That you cant see the value of being able to see through how small products are constructed without taking them apart which could in the progress damaging the product itself?

@@iforkinglovelemonade Face it, it's a sales pitch and a bad comparison. The fakes might actually perform better for all we know.

Its actually a sales pitch for the CT scanning software they're using.

To expensive . To open an apple would void the warranty.

@@JamieDelour Given that they were able to show missing components just by looking inside, I would say it's pretty conclusive that these are not providing the same level of features as the authentic version. And given the extra potential interference and noise there's no way they would be better.

It's both a question of finding counterfeit electronics, as well as consumer advice. Apple chargers and cables are expensive, so users can easily be tempted into buying similar-looking fakes. Showing the factual differences is important and it's good consumer advice. Apple devices are studied and copied by third parties to a far larger extent than any other brand which also means it's easier do find items to make a video about.

No, and no.

@@tested lies

no they haven't paid him directly. He's throwing his entire career down the toilet for something he isn't even being paid directly to do. Thanks Adam, I was wondering when the next person that I would loose faith in from my childhood would be.

@@3D_foos This was the wrong question. The real question is : is Lumafield affiliated with Apple ? We know that Lumafield sponsors Tested.

I think the inside are potted and solid inside with no air space. You could slice it, but these scans are much better.

@@chiphill4856no someone stepped on my charger before and broke it open. All this is completely visible

Someone forgot to connect it; that’s all. lol

Do end users have multi meters and knowledge of his to use them? You lost me when you said grounding pin....

​@@TheMonkeydood People who do basic repair around their homes likely have multimeters. I've owned a multimeter since I was a kid to check batteries. Checking a ground is as simple as flipping the meter into continuity mode. If it beeps, there is a connection.

I just tested this on my Magsafe 2 charger, and it had no continuity from ground pin to metal on the magnetic connector. I believe it's a real Apple charger (but I will test some of the others I also have laying around, later).

That is fascinating to find out. I'm not sure how Apple would have the MacBook deal safely with static electric sparks if it didn't have the case have a ground to go to. On an old original magsafe connector I get 0.6 ohm resistance. On a magsafe 2 for an air, I get much higher, just under 1k ohms (995 Ω) which typically won't trigger continuity beeps on multimeters. I do note that the anodizing on the outside of the magsafe magnetic head seems to have a high resistance so I check resistance on the flat face that sticks to the macbook body. I haven't had my morning coffee, but it's not clear to me why they'd add the resistance. It is still low enough that it would trigger a GFCI protection circuit which typically fire at 6 mA, so maybe that resistance is some attempt at limiting noise coming in on the ground line or for some reason do a slow discharge of static electricity to ground?@@patrikfloding7985

At least it's an actual bootleg and not a completely distinct class of product

I quite enjoyed the charge cable one!

@@jsollowsphotography lol

@@jsollowsphotography the lumafield is absolutely fascinating! But to a lot of people it felt like there was a bad comparison between the subjects. Those cables weren't even trying to come close to Apple's Thunderbolt 4, so it was disingenuous to call them knockoffs. Sort of like comparing a golf cart to a Rolls Royce and saying the cart is a poor imitation, that's how many viewers took it

And many times, illegal.

I suspect Lumafield is using Apple products simply for the additional, free exposure. They benefit from all that Apple advertising and brand recognition attracting viewers to Adam's video at no expense beyond what they paid Tested.

Their previous cable comparison was so apples to peaches Brand shilling, they should have revoked their engineering degrees.

Don't get me wrong. Adam is one of my heroes. But why would he make content like this if he wasn't affiliated with Apple? Same as with the Starfield series. This is such an obvious step away from much of his older content.

@georgg.5730 And I don't see any if you sending him money for his hard work lol How else is he supposed to get paid,and continue working,if he his "true fans" won't even send him 1$ to watch him build something worth 1000$ You people upset me lol

Came here to report this, so instead I’ll just concur!

back in the day (late 2008) when I bought my first macbook, it came with both the two prong plug, and a 3 prong extension cable as standard provision. Nowdays, many electronics seem to come standard with no charger at all :(

But how do you know it's lenovo? Lots of fake sellers on Aliex...

I've recently got myself Moondrop's Space Travel TWS. Active noise canceling, very good sound quality, all bells and whistles, a very nice design on top. 25$ with shipping. Daaaamn.

@@mrm1885 I don't care, tbh. I bought them because they were cheap and wanted to try this new-fangled wireless technology.

I got some fake airpod pro 2s to try out after always using wired earbuds forever, weird having this video pop up, and the fake airpods have quickly become my main earbuds. They actually sound great and they work exactly how I’d want. The battery life is probably not as good as apples though lol

The point is it doesnt matter if they are GOOD QUALITY, All "Apple" products are made by other companies anyway, their Phones are mostly Samsung components assembled by Foxconn.. The Label really doesnt matter in the end@@mrm1885

Two commercials that aren't disclosed as such, here lies the real issue.

Only because they compared it to the worst and cheapest knockoffs they could find. You can find far superior alternatives for 1/3 to 1/2 the price of these Apple-branded Chinese products.

It's because you aren't purchasing an apple product,as far as owning the thing goes.You're purchasing the agreement to use their product,until they decide they don't want you to use their product.They own everything real,and you own the sense of entitlement lol

I don't need any . @@CaptainHoratioPugwash

@@jeffdroog That's not how European law works.

@@CaptainHoratioPugwash That's because getting a full replacement is cheaper than fixing it; that is fair game.

Because if you or your ‘tech guy’ screws up with replacement of screen it was you to scream all over the world that their products are bad and work like POS. Eliminating third party interference in their products makes product handling way easier

The most important difference is the noise cancelling tech, which is at best primitive in the fake ones.

I mean that’s fine if you’re okay with supporting IP theft. Why buy Adam’s Apron or pouch set when you can buy a just as good knock off?

@@InXLsisDeo Oh no doubt, but we all managed just fine without ANC back then, I personally don't like using it when I'm walking about outside and can't use it when I'm with my son or GF. I tend to use Open Shokz just so I can hear what's going on, so with my Pixel Bud Pros, I only really get to use the ANC by myself just to drown out the sound of the washing machine 😅 But realistically, I spent hundreds on earbuds that I basically don't need, I still have the wired Pixel buds that came with my Pixel 3

@@Michael-pi8ps Yes, why buy Adams apron when any apron will do? Well 1. Adam is an independent and worth supporting, Apple is not worth supporting and IP theft is fine when you're talking about multi billion dollar companies that routinely mark up their tech prices by 300%

@@InXLsisDeo There's something off sounding even with the real ones. I rather hear a little background noise than have the audio distorted.

Don't worry, the fake cheapass iPhone vs the Apple iPhone 13 Pro is coming next !

Buy Sony, Samsung or Sennheiser

@@hiltong524 Only if Tested do any commercials on them!

I suspect most companies are happy to sell (or look the other way when their manufacturer) sells off excess casings for their products as a side deal. Like how Nike allows a certain number of "damaged" shoes into the local economy as a supplement to salaries, knowing the workers can just sew a check onto the shoes they "rejected" and failed to destroy.

@@littlekong7685 Yeah. There's a fairly long history of factory managers doing some undocumented overtime production, skimming off products marked defective or what have you and selling them through back channels. When it's a more modest product, they generally overlook it until such time as something happens that forces them to officially notice it. Luxury products... entirely different story. They don't want poor people walking around with anything that looks like their product, because a whole chunk of their customer base is only buying it for status reasons: they want to show off that they're wealthy, and that doesn't work if the poors are walking around with something that looks the same.

They also probably have a contract that they can't get out of.

@@gownerjones1450 If they valued the respect of their audience they would foot whatever early termination fee they need to to exit the contract.

​@@gownerjones1450then more fool them for entering into a contract that doesn't include a get it clause for bringing the channel into disrepute or harming their reputation.

But then the Lumafield check would have bounced.

And that would completely defeat the purpose of the Lumafield sponsorship.

@@fxm5715 That means it's a bad sponsorship. If I'm gonna sponsor tested to show my technology, I wouldn't have them use it for something it's not useful for.

Cruise ship one was pretty cool. These ones not so much

I feel the opposite. Cruise ships were cringe, these are neat as long as you look past the obsessive Apple fanboying.

Except it did not make use of that grounded pin. The removable connector for the plug does not have any metal in the socket to connect it to the ground pin. Making it just a two-pin ungrounded connection. Such a simple thing to miss out on when going through the rest of the effort making it completely pointless.

@@nous404 but it's not pointless - by being double isolated it doesn't need a 'earth' pin at all. The 'earth' pin, metal or plastic, is only there to open the live / neutral shutters on the plug socket itself.

But the metal macbook is not shielded, i have no idea but does it need to be grounded in the adapter because it is connected to a non shielded item?

@@nous404 this is correct, however oddly the cables that you can attach to the power brick are grounded and do use this pin in the UK. I always prefer this as I can feel the voltage differential on a charging macbook case if only the snub plug is attached.

@@torquilh I haven't seen one, but I expect like most laptop power adaptors the adaptor is double shielded, delivering only 19V DC (or whatever voltage a MacBook uses). Not sure about the US or elsewhere, but if a device (power adapter in this case) in the UK has the symbol of a pair of squares, one inside the other, it indicates it is double shielded and does not need an earth/ground connection. Still needs the pin to open the safety shutters on the socket.

Apple? They have some of the best quality control in the industry.

/me laughs in glued in spicy pillow.

@@jamespeirce2582 I'll let my brother know that after four laptops and seven phones all bloody useless from the get go due to piss poor QC. I called him an idiot after the third round, but he was an Apple "Fan" and couldn't resist...now he knows better.

​@jamespeirce2582 having your new top of the line phone being able to be broken by someone's bare hands when no other major phone has done that before sure is quality

this channel opened my eyes why apple is expensive because of its complex hardware component. and you can tell the difference between the real and fake in this video.

No no no, that would be crazy because it would show that you can get a comparable, or in many cases better product for a lower price. The whole point to this obvious paid advertisement is to prove that Apple makes the best products in the world (when compared to complete pieces of garbage).

@@CarbonatedTurtle on California they aren't aware anyone else makes devices

Have a look around online for teardowns of pixel buds or Samsung ones, they’re nowhere near as polished on the inside as the AirPods, doesn’t make for a great video when they don’t look much better than the fakes

AliExpress

I suspect these are apple aware counterfeits, this video explains a LOT of issues friends have had with Apple care warranty replacements. Like cases that rattle, shorter battery life, lighter cases, worse sound cancelling, etc. Or they make the counterfeits themselves using old processes to saturate the market and keep real counterfeiter companies out.

um… because other brands dont get exact copies like Apple?

Like it or not apple products are associated with quality and frequently faked, which makes them a perfect subject for this series.

@@forrest225 apple products are a scam and always have been lmao They used apple, because apple paid for the video. It's as simple as that. Adam has sold out.

Exactly!

You can't waste money you don't have. Big brain move. :D

I don't think "fake" is an appropriate term. If I buy a pair of Reebok trainers, it's a bit unfair to call them fake if they aren't Nike. It's the same with peripherals. There are plenty of third party peripherals for use with Mac devices that are better than the first party ones that cost less...granted, there's a lot of cheap shit out there...but there's probably just as much good stuff. I've found some amazing "made in china tat" that was built to an incredible standard that looked like cheap knock offs...the thing with Chinese manufacturing is that they stop giving a shit when it comes to how a device looks and feels...but they put the effort in where it counts...for example, audio amplifiers...there are tons of cheap amps out there and they all look like garbage...but there are gems that can be found and sometimes those gems are better than a branded alternative that costs 10x the price. Yeah it'd be great if we could buy things at competitive prices from manufacturers in our own countries, but unfortunately that isn't possible right now with the way the global supply chain works and in a lot of cases, we produce inferior shit for orders of magnitude more cost.

@@Yakuzaka1412 No, I just spend it on not shit products.

@@pipeninja4741 "Fake" is appropriate. They aren't genuine Apple products. I don't need an irrelevant rambling essay.

😂 did ye aye?

To be quite honest, I'm also disappointed about how fast my left earpod got significantly more quiet than the right one in such a short timespan. This is what keeps me from enjoying a set of airpods long term, and is exactly what they want: reoccurring customers.

People spending so much money on headphones make me laugh. I'd rather save for early retirement rather than some expensive earbuds that will break or get lost.

@@FreejackVesaPeople who judge others make me laugh.

@@CT-vm4gf Right? What a stupid statement. I hope they also don't buy anything else expensive then ever, as every penny gotta be put into that early retirement bank-account!

They don't test if it's worth the cost. Probably because they don't want to upset Apple xD

they can't show that as it would show that apple is the real fraud and the payola for undisclosed advertisements would dry up.

@@3D_foos It is undeniable Apple products have exceptional quality of manufacture, you're fooling yourself if you believe otherwise. However the cost of Apple products is at the higher end of the scale, whether you wish to pay is your choice. The pricing model is their choice, clearly they have it right - just look at their sales figures. I'm sick and tired of people moaning about how much they charge, if it is too expensive for you buy a cheaper brand...

And dangerous as shit.

Also (of course) most other countries use 3 wires for their power plugs. In Europe (for example) there are regulations when your power cord needs to have 3 wires.

What issues are you referring to?

@@jeffdroog they compared an apple Thunderbolt cable to a cheap $5 dollar USB-C cable and acted like they were supposed to be the same, that the usbc cable was a cheap "rip off" of the Apple cable, when Thunderbolt and USBC are 2 completely different standards...like literally 99% of the comments were ppl calling that out, but I haven't seen any response from tested.

@@leeward6762 This video is rip-off vs. authentic. The previous one was cheap vs expensive. The USB C one was a question of why the thunderbolt cable cost so much and looking at the tech inside, not making out the cheap one was a "rip-off" and I don't believe that word or "counterfeit" were mentioned at any point in the other video. Both videos are adverts for the CT scanning company, so they grabbed two items that would of course be different inside to compare.

@@ironcxctus Cheap Orange vs Expensive Apple will still show you invalid results because they are different things.

@@ironcxctus The point they're trying to make is that you would never buy a plain USB-C cable to be used as a Thunderbolt cable. The two cables use the same connectors, but they are not the same, so comparing them as if they are interchangeable is disingenuous.

They're not grounding the box, the earth is connected to the output cable (low voltage) side. Y'know those stories you hear where they drop their phone into the bathtub and get electrocuted? Well, that's what the ground is for. Sometime plastic boxes are grounded, they're sprayed with nickel paint and that gets grounded, that's usually for reducing RF interference getting into the box though. While I'd agree that "fewer parts doesn't meant deficient", it would of been nice of the fake to add that grounding wire as they also cheap out of the parts that'll cause the electrocution risk in the first place.

I mean if you want good sound there are plenty of tws earbuds that have good sound and are cheaper than the airpods pro, I don't think anyone would buy counterfeit airpods (knowingly) expecting similar sound quality

You might be surprised. The sound quality on the airpods are actually pretty poor.

It would show huge flaws in the originals.

Perfectly acceptable for third party to design their own earbuds but not to create counterfeits. The consumer can end up with defective products and the manufacturer, in this case Apple, loses a sale.

​@@funtechuit's not

Which no-one would watch. I wonder why they don't make them. Like it or not, Apple gets clicks. For instance, from you.

@@ErwinPommel They'd get me to actually watch the video rather than call them out on their antics if it were something else.

Do you have evidence of this? If so I’ll be disappointed; they should disclose if Apple or anyone sponsored this.

Exactly. It's like he's been paid off

My guess is Apple paid Lumafield, the CT scan company, for a series of ads. Lumifield sponsors Adam Savage's Tested (this is disclosed in the text below the video, but not in the video itself). It will be pretty obvious if there is another Apple product examined against competitors.

​@@InXLsisDeo100% this is what is happening here.

A hit on the integrity this one..

Amazing how some radio stations can't mention brand names, like Samsung when they release superior phones, yet when a new iphone comes out with lower specs, they start talking about it.

I noticed their MOV was too close to the "grounding" pin. Wonder if it would have passes mains electronic spacing requirements.

Yes, and a really bad one at that too ... The fact they didn't even compared it to a TB cable just implies it is indeed ridiculously overpriced and these 'engineers' shilled out ... Which makes them totally unbelievable moving forwards.

@@AntGeezer What's ignorant is that fact that Lumafield sponsored this video and 2 of Lumafields biggest investors (see their website) have close ties to Apple and you choose to be a clueless famboi instead !

That is so true i totally agree, and its so strange

🙄

But, but, I love the Vise of Knowledge!

I mean, Big Clive would probably throw up trying to make anything out in that blurry ass image. I think Big Clive would prefer to take something apart to having to guess whether something is a mosfet or a capacitor. And good luck trying to reverse-engineer any kind of circuit with this garbage, which is what Big Clive does.

@@gownerjones1450 Could be handy showing you where the hidden screws and clips are so disassembly won't be as destructive as it usually is. A week back I pried off a retaining ring that I thought unscrewed, and indeed it did. If I'd have known I just needed a bit more brute force I would not have destroyed all the retaining lugs. Hot glued back on, it'll be fine...

to get an idea of the difference in the actual materials used

Disassembly of these devices would be destructive.

Being able to directly compare how both sample are constructed with the two scans opened side by side? Lessen the chance of damaging the sample which leads to an altered result?

Because Lumafield is paying for these videos. I don't know what these other clowns are smoking, but I've taken apart chargers when I was 7 years old, put them back together and they were fine. It's not destructive, unless you're an idiot. And who cares if it was destructive? These are demonstration devices. I also don't know how you get a better idea of the materials used. The two scans of the chargers look identical. Identically low-resolution, identically blurry and identically too low-detail to even make out what components were used. Lumafield may have its use cases but this is not one. If you want to compare the electronic innards of two devices, you take them apart. And lo and behold, you don't have to guesstimate whether something is a mosfet or a capacitor anymore.

yeah, that's my point... for this kind of educational purpose, taking apart would do a better service to aid identifying and comparing stuff but as I said, the scans are really nice and if it's a marketing it serves the purpose of showing off the capabilities. @@gownerjones1450

Its a Lumafield sponsored video about their scanners. Its literally in the description.

This is a show and tell for what their company does, disassembling it would not really show what they do.

@@brrrserkr fair enough

@@brrrserkr Then this video should not have been a collab with them. I am now less likely to use Lumafield for anything because I saw how useless and borderline idiotic it is to use it for circuit reverse-engineering. This video left a wholly negative impression of their technology because they used it for something it's just not useful for.

​@@gownerjones1450dude, shut up already.

I'm not sure the apple products would (by design) survive disassembly. The fakes would for sure though.