Fall of Doriath and Second Kinslaying - Middle-Earth Lore DOCUMENTARY

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Wizards and Warriors animated fantasy documentary lore video series on the world of Middle-Earth - Lord of the Rings continues with the second video on the First Age. We discuss the creation of the world of Tolkien, its powers and races and we see how and why the Elves became the enemies of the Dark Lord Melkor, who they called Morgoth, after their leader Fëanor cursed him for killing his father Finwë and stealing his prized possession - Silmarils. In this episode we see how the evil first rose in the world of Arda and will talk about Ungoliant and other evils, about the Valar and Maiar, about the Elves and their sub-groups - Vanyar, Ñoldor, Teleri, and Avari ( • Beginning of the Age -... ), while this video will show the continuation of the events. In Middle-Earth, Morgoth attacks the Teleri Elves in Doriath and his allies starting the War of the Jewels with the First Battle of the Beleriand. Meanwhile, in the Valinor, the Noldor Elves of Feanor attack their Teleri relatives in the First Kinslaying. Afterwards, Feanor and his sons travel to the Middle-Earth to fight Morgoth and take the Silmarils, leading to the battles of Dagor-nuin-Giliath and Lammoth and the death of Feanor ( • Feanor Strikes Back - ... ). In the aftermath the Noldor kingdoms rise in the Middle-Earth taking on Morgoth once again, this time at the battle of Dagor Aglareb, where Feanor's sons Fingolfin and Maedhros fought against the Dark Lord, while the humans - the House of Edain ( • Dagor Aglareb - Noldor... ) rose elswhere. The fourth episode will describe the battle of Dagor Bragollach and the rise of the father of Dragons Glaurung ( • Dagor Bragollach - Ris... ). In the aftermath of the defeat the Elves and Men were on the back foot and the evil spread, but from those dark days, an Beren and Lúthien rose to challenge the darkness ( • Beren and Lúthien - Gr... ), and defeated Morgoth ( • How Morgoth Was Defeat... ). Their tragic love story inspired Maedhros to create his Union, which attacked the Dark Lord during the Nirnaeth Arnoediad - the battle of Unnumbered Tears ( • Nirnaeth Arnoediad - B... ). As a result of the battle, many Men and Elf were made hostages, among them Húrin. In the first episode about Children of Húrin, we will talk about Morgoth's curse and the Rise of Húrin's son Túrin ( • Children of Húrin: Ris... ), while the second episode covered the Fall of Nargothrond ( • Fall of Nargothrond - ... ). The third episode is going to set up the biggest tragedy in the world created by Tolkien, as Nienor has exited Dor-Lomin and her meeting with Turin is going to happen soon The third episode is going to set up the biggest tragedy in the world created by Tolkien, as Nienor has exited Dor-Lomin and her meeting with Turin is going to happen soon ( • Biggest Tragedy In the... ). In the fourth and final episode in the mini-series on the Children of Hurin, the tragedy is complete - Turin and Nienor are dead, and so is Glaurung ( • Children of Hurin - Tr... ). After their death, the Dark Lord finally released Hurin. His return would only worsen the situation for the free peoples ( • Fate of Hurin - Curse ... ) and they would continue fighting each other for the Silmarils and power, leading to the Second Kinslaying and the Fall of Doriath.
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@WizardsandWarriors 11 ай бұрын

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@richardthomas9497 11 ай бұрын

I hope one day you can make lore videos based on anime/manga in the future. There are many popular choices to choose from, based in fantasy and science-fiction worlds. For fantasy my top picks are Naruto or Fullmetal Alchemist. For Science-fiction, the GUNDAM One Year War.

@Brianrock72 11 ай бұрын

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@resileaf9501 11 ай бұрын

This series is "Things look bad right now, but believe me, they're gonna get *much* worse" personified.

@samwill7259 11 ай бұрын

The fact that Morgoth had entire centuries or millennia long periods where he had functionally won And yet his fall was still so deeply inevitable Showed something intrinsic about how Tolkien's world functioned

@edeneini839 11 ай бұрын

Insane, Morgoth didn't even need to lift a finger, the free people brought their doom upon themselves...

@lisboah 11 ай бұрын

Well said. Morgoth was incapable of infusing his corruptive influence upon the Silmarills, he never had any interest with the Dwarves, he never met Thingol or entered the latter's realm, he had nothing to do with the Oath of Feanor... This is all on the elves and dwarves...

@shinsenshogun900 11 ай бұрын

When everything eventually does go according to Eru Iluvatar and Melkor’s duet of the primordial ages

@majestic8054 11 ай бұрын

Because the Elves would rather fight over stolen jewels because of some stupid oath & kill their own kinsmen

@lisboah 11 ай бұрын

@@majestic8054 True. They were facing countless legions of the second most powerful being in existence, and yet these guys assumed they had time to kill each other for some jewels.

@randomelite4562 7 ай бұрын

@@lisboahAll of you really are underestimating just how valuable the Silmarils were. Ffs, the Silmarillion was named after them. Morgoth slaying Finwe and stealing the jewels is the entire reason the Noldor set forth from Valinor, exiling themselves to wage war on him. The Silmarils were one of, if not the, greatest mortal creations in the entire Legendarium. In those gems was held the glow of the Two Trees has once lit the entire world. Imagine if our own sun just disappeared, and all that remained of it were three batteries filled with the last remaining sunlight. Entire nations would be destroyed in the conflicts to take ownership of it. The fact that the elves were still able to fight Morgoth in-spite of the Feanorean Oath to take the Silmarils is more a testament to their strength than a show of failure.

@peterandjunko 11 ай бұрын

If you are new to this story - you now can see the source of the antipathy between the elves and dwarves in the Lord of the Rings. As portrayed in the Jackson films, Gimli v Legolas at the Council, Haldir v Gimli at Lothlorien (Celeborn is the grand-nephew of Thingol of Doriath), Thranduil (whose father was of Doriath) not assisting the Dwarves of Erebor after Smaug, and harshly imprisoning Thorin’s Company. The presence of Gandalf was the only reason Thorin’s company were allowed at Rivendell (Dior’s daughter Elwing being Elrond’s mother). It makes the ensuing friendship of Gimli and Legolas that more powerful as the symbol of a final reconciliation between the Elves and Dwarves in Middle Earth.

@lnwolf7563 11 ай бұрын

This is a little detail that tends to slip through the cracks I think. Only those of us who have read Tolkien beyond LOTR and The Hobbit are aware of this. I am glad this channel has taken it upon themselves to tell the story of the First Age, and in doing so remained true to the source material, unlike a certain TV show which will remain unnamed by me. Tolkien crafted such a deep and beautiful world, with such tragedy and hope at the same time. To anyone who hasnt read the books I highly encourage you to do so, the Jackson movies are great, but the books give you so much more detail that the movies do not include.

@visitingforgefather5997 11 ай бұрын

Thing is canonically some things are different. Elrond had no issues or ill feelings towards Dwarves, especially those of the House of Durin and welcomed them into Rivendel as readily as any other. He would have offered them hospitality even without Gandalf. It was thanks to the intervention of the dwarves of Khazad-Dum during the Sacking of Eregion Elrond was able to save survivors from Eregion and was able to found Rivendel and Elrond never forgot this. Thranduil, probably influenced by the animosity, imprisoned Thorin and the rest of the Company as he assumed they sought to do ill to his people (while in reality they had gotten lost, were low of provisions and actually were trying to ask the Elves for help(several times they saw Elves around a campfire feasting and singing yet every time the dwarves approached them the elves immediately assumed they wanted to do them harm, doused their campfire and fled in the ensuing darkness)) and Thorin refused to reveal why they were passing through Mirkwood. (since he rightly guessed Thranduil would have blackmailed him since Thranduil was not free of greed and had a particular weakness for white gems and silver.) Also Haldir was quite hostile towards Gimli (canonically Gimli never insulted him) demanded he would be blindfolded and closely watched before entering Lothlorien, something Legolas spoke in favor off. (For those wondering the way this was resolved Aragorn refused to enter Lothlorien if it meant exclude somebody of the fellowship and so stated that the entire fellowship would go into Lothlorien blindfolded (don't worry they were provided guides), much to Legolas his annoyance and Gimlis amusement.) Interestingly it could also be said that Gimli and Legolas their mistrust for one another had its roots in the events of the Hobbit. As revealed during the council of Elrond, the Elves of Mirkwood seem to have never apologized or sought to make recompense to the Dwarves of Thorins Company for imprisoning them, something Gloin, Gimli's father still held a bit of a grudge over.

@lnwolf7563 11 ай бұрын

@@visitingforgefather5997 The House Of Durin, which the Dwarves of the First age that come into the stories of Beleriand, are not of, were always considered to be faithful. Sauron had dwarves on his side at the Battle of the Last Alliance, but it is clearly stated that the Dwarves of the House of Durin all fought on the side of the Alliance. While there were certainly bad feelings between Dwarves and Elves, in reality the elves had no reason to be hateful to Durin's folk, they did obviously, but there was no need for it. Elrond being who he is, is probably the exclusion not the rule, but Tolkien clearly stated that Elrond was extremely wise and as you said had reason to trust and not despise the dwarves. All that said, like in our own world sadly some folks just hate those who are different than them.

@visitingforgefather5997 11 ай бұрын

@@lnwolf7563 I am aware good sir, during their previous video I pointed out how calling the Dwarves of Nogrod and Belegost as Durins Folk was misleading since those two cities belonged to the Firebeards and Broadbeams. (even got a hearth for that from them but they still made the mistake here.) While it is true there were dwarves on Saurons side their numbers were actually quite low. For those interested. The other Houses had largely succumbed to their greed due to their Rings and so refused to become involved in the war of the Last Alliance. Some among those Houses however chose to join the fight, some fought for the Alliance others for Sauron. However if I remember correctly their combined numbers were given as several hundreds. For context the House of Durin, which was the largest among the Houses, joined the Alliance with an army of around 50000 personally lead by Durin the Fourth. And as accurately stated by Grubnuz none among the House of Durin fought for Sauron since those dwarves still maintained friendship with the Noldor Elves.

@Ishkur23 11 ай бұрын

The dwarves and the Sindar (ie: Telerian elves) did not get along. But Durin's folk and the Noldor seemed to get along just fine, as the elves of Eregion and dwarves of Khazad-dum lived and worked together extensively during the Second Age. They made the rings, after all.

@SamBrockmann 11 ай бұрын

The greatest tragedy of the entire saga, imho, is how the sons of Faenor went from being some of the noblest elves in all the world to being guilty of child murder.

@davidwhitfield6025 11 ай бұрын

"You know Sauron, I'm beginning to think I should have let someone take a Silmaril earlier and then just sat back. These chumps are doing all the work for me!" Morgroth on hearing of the fall of Doriath and the destruction of the Dwarfs of Nogrod. As always a great presentation although I will point out that the great Dwarven cities of Nogrod and Belegost in the Blue Mountains were the homes of the Houses of Broadbeams and Firebeards, not Durin's Folk. They were centred around Kazadum. Always had sympathy for Maedhros but at the end of the day he chose a bad oath over doing the right thing dooming himself and his kin. The three worst brothers all died fighting Dior but changed little for the remaining four.

@Crafty_Spirit 11 ай бұрын

I think you could use the term Durin´s folk to refer to all dwarves in general as he is the senior dwarf amongst the first, but honestly I was also confused when they used it in the video

@mateuszslawinski1990 11 ай бұрын

It's ironic that Morgoth just had to give away one jewel to make his foes accomplish in decades what he was trying to do for hundreds of years - chopping free peoples.

@redashura9255 11 ай бұрын

To be honest Morgoth (Melkor) will refer Sauron as Mairon (his original name)

@majestic8054 10 ай бұрын

Maehdros gave up the throne just to fight his own people😂. He has all that smoke for his own people but not the enemy. The fact the stupid Noldor prioritize the oath more than their survival is just laughable.

@donpula6349 10 ай бұрын

@@majestic8054His brothers took the oath, but the Noldor who followed Fëanor were just his followers till the 3rd/last Kinslaying when they repented of what they have done and they turned to fight their own masters (Sons of Fëanor) till they died as well. Terrible they are, the sons are cursed.

@emerestthisk990 11 ай бұрын

It's interesting in that I think the 'curse' of Glaurung's horde of treasure/Nauglamir was a different type of thing entirely to The One Ring later in the history of Middle-earth. I think the former was just a manifistation of greed and lust itself instead of some actual power to corrupt which the Ring possessed.

@ParleLeVu 11 ай бұрын

I am starting to realize the Tolkien was a pretty poor author at times. To fulfill the quite stupid "curse of Melkor" and the curse of Mandos, he keeps on adding random conflict between Men, Elves and Dwarves to make it so. When Mandos laid a curse, it was fine. He is a semi-godlike being, after all. When Melkor laid a curse, in this lesser form, and more as an enemy than a god, it was already starting to become old. When a god damn PETTY DWARF laid a curse, and seemingly made it alter fate, it got stupid. But here we are again: A no-name smalltime Dwarven leader makes a further curse that alters fate. It seems that anyone can curse anyone upon death and do more damage than they could ever do in their life elsewise. And the Elven king made every mistake possible so the Silmaril ends up "lost" (which is very contrived and overused by Tolkien already at that point), and somehow this makes the Girdle of Melian not work. Why? "Sorrow". What? Oh, and she also goes west so they are leaderless. Oh, and she DOESN'T bring the Silmaril, because , remember, Tolkien needs the Silmarils to become lost, so she leaves it behind. No problem you say, the citizens of Doriath are still freaking ELVES, and the Dwarves of some random backwater station should have no chance against them. 1 dwarf should be equal to 0,40 elves in battle. But nono, the since Melian also made every mistake possible, the Dwarves somehow not only win a battle against the Elves, which should never happen EVER in Tolkien's own lore where elven numbers are more than 1 to 10, but the Elves have seemingly lost 3000 years of military experience and don't use the walls of the city to defend, but go out like idiot Frenchmen and arrogantly fight them in the field. BECAUSE WHY NOT? God, Silmarillion is frustratingly written sometimes.

@richardthomas9497 11 ай бұрын

Another brilliant lore video of the First Age of Middle Earth. I'm looking forward to seeing the next about the City of Gondolin. The Coming of Tuor to Gondolin is my favourite story from "Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth". My favourite section was the descriptions of the unique Seven Gates of Gondolin.

@vectorstrike 11 ай бұрын

Only the Nirnaeth Arnoediad can compare in such sadness to these events

@myriadmediamusings 11 ай бұрын

Thingol was kinda asking for it IMO, but it is pretty damn sad that after all that trouble with Beren and Luthien, most of their immediate offspring would fall in this manner. I'd also like to think that, even with that oath, Maedhros had a chance to be kept on the straight path because of Fingon. It's my belief that whatever chance he had left of being truly clean and untainted died with Fingon at the Battle of Unumbered Tears. Taking part in the first kinslaying by orders of your dad is one thing Maedhros, but this second one at Doriath and what's to come? That's on you, buddy.

@marcusweathers3070 11 ай бұрын

His character was flawed, but the dwarves had no business claiming the Silmaril or the necklace.

@richardthomas9497 11 ай бұрын

When the Oath of Fëanor was made it never meant to be broken. To fail or falter would be call the Everlasting Darkness upon themselves, and were sworn pursue violence against any who would keep a Silmaril from them, no matter whom or the circumstances. Even if Maedhros and the surviving brothers didn't want to commit the Kinslayings, they were bound to their Oath.

@Crafty_Spirit 11 ай бұрын

Once these Dwarves decided to claim the Nauglamír for themselves, there was no way to avoid a fight over it. They could not let get the king away for he would seek vengeance afterwards. I think Thingol anticipated they would attack him before he spoke these words

@AugustusR 11 ай бұрын

There is always repentance... though not quite directly stated though nevertheless a major theme in the works of Tolkien; had any of the seven shown true contrition over their crimes, turned back on their (non repenting) kin and sided with, say, Doraith in this case, it would have broken the power of their oath. It may have well led them to death and therefore to Mandos, but once there they would be free and a path open for them to return to the world of the living and to start a new. Maedhros simply made the wrong choice, out of love for a father that loved him yes, but not quite as much a the work of his hands.

@majestic8054 10 ай бұрын

@@richardthomas9497e could have went after the jewels after defeating Melkor, but no they continued to pursue war with their kin.

@JohnnyElRed 11 ай бұрын

It seems to me they would had done well in throwing that damn thing into the sea.

@jasse85 11 ай бұрын

If even a Valar craved them after setting eyes upon them, what chance do lesser immortal beings have?

@juergen4ever 11 ай бұрын

Spoilers...

@josephshrike3972 11 ай бұрын

I might be wrong, but while 'Durin's folk' might be a catchall for dwarves, during this time I think it might have exclusively applied to the ones in the Misty Mountains/Iron Hills (the Longboards) who weren't really involved in this

@grallonsphere271 11 ай бұрын

I just realized the opening scene from 'The Hobbit', where we see Thror refusing to hand over the necklace to Thranduil, borrowed this bit from Thingol's story.

@juergen4ever 11 ай бұрын

Having read all of Tolkien's legendarium texts at least once, I have to commend Wizards and Warriors on trying to give a fuller picture of the last days of Húrin and the Ruin of Doriath than that on Chapter 22 of the Published Quenta Silmarillion. This was the hardest chapter for Christopher Tolkien to write, since for those specific stories, the ideas that his father had compiled over the decades were the most contradictory and incomplete. Initially he co-wrote the mentioned chapter with Guy Gavriel Kay as a compromise for the 1977 Published Silmarillion, but a deeper analysis of notes an texts would have him write at the end of Part III of History of Middle-Earth XI the following: "This story was not lightly or easily conceived, but was the outcome of long experimentation among alternative conceptions. In this work Guy Kay took a major part, and the chapter that I finally wrote owes much to my discussions with him. It is, and was, obvious that a step was being taken of a different order from any other ‘manipulation’ of my father's own writing in the course of the book: even in the case of the story of The Fall of Gondolin, to which my father had never returned, something could be contrived without introducing radical changes in the narrative. It seemed at that time that there were elements inherent in the story of the Ruin of Doriath as it stood that were radically incompatible with ‘The Silmarillion’ as projected, and that there was here an inescapable choice: either to abandon that conception, or else to alter the story. I think now that this was a mistaken view, and that the undoubted difficulties could have been, and should have been, surmounted without so far overstepping the bounds of the editorial function."

@Crafty_Spirit 11 ай бұрын

You guys should not there wasn´t really a scenario where Thingol would get away once the Dwarves claimed the Nauglamír for themselves. It´s conjecture, but I always read the scene such that Thingol realised even before the Dwarves did that they would have to kill him in order to get away with their loot. It´s also worth pointing out that Thingol at least was spared of the experience to witness the death of his now mortal and all-beloved daugther, as her and Beren outlived the fall of Doriath, the first and longest lasting kingdom of the Elves.

@Enerdhil 11 ай бұрын

Nice observations.😁👍

@Crafty_Spirit 11 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil Hope you are doing just fine, mate :-)

@Enerdhil 11 ай бұрын

@@Crafty_Spirit Things are going okay but slow. How about yourself?

@Crafty_Spirit 11 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil Well I... unexpectedly lost my job two weeks ago 😅😅 I'm still employed until November, but I'll probably switch from the sciences to therapy (with my background in psychology). It turned out that I underperform and am unhappy if I have to sit in front of a computer all day, so I welcome this change and see it as a call to do something more fulfilling and that also helps people more directly. Overall I am fine, scratch my head though at times.

@Enerdhil 11 ай бұрын

@@Crafty_Spirit I am sorry that you were forced to suddenly find a job, but it sounds like you will be able to help a lot of people in your new career. That has to be better than staring at a monitor all day. I am sure you will succeed in this next phase of your life. I will be praying for you and your future success.🙏😁

@captainvalourous6668 11 ай бұрын

Melian: Hold on you know you do realize that by asking that kid to fetch you a Silmaril will get us into trouble with Faenor's manbabies am I right? 🤨 Thingol: Oh please its not like that guy will succeed getting a fancy jewel from a dark lord's head and making it out alive would indirectly lead to possible events that would screw as all in the future am I right honey? 😘 ( Later in Valinor ) Melian: Dont. Tell. Me. I. Didnt. Warned you 😑 Thingol: IT WAS THOSE F@CKIN DWARVES HONEY! THOSE F@CKIN DWARVES! 🤬 😅

@myriadmediamusings 11 ай бұрын

The elves' general jackassery during the FA combined with their immortality and immediate trip to the Halls of Mandos does admittedly conjure up a whole lot of comedic situations with Thingol and Melian being one of the best.

@MrTrakiiski 11 ай бұрын

mirkwood.queen has a hilarous short in kitKot about the fall of Thingol xD

@majestic8054 10 ай бұрын

The elves in the first age were their own enemies & Melkor a quarter the time really didn't have to do much.

@nicolassanchez-oc2md 11 ай бұрын

Such a tragic world. From the moment I read The Children of Hurin, so many years ago, it struck some deep fiber in me, a fiver only reachable by Tolkien's words. When I tell part of the Legendarium's stories to my frends or family, I cant help crying a lot, its such a beatuiful and tragic world.

@Emanon... 9 ай бұрын

I think you'll find many real world tales of tragedy will be too hard on you, if Tolkien's writing has such an effect on you. Better stay clear of any history books.

@nicolassanchez-oc2md 8 ай бұрын

@@Emanon... I hardly think so, the only historic events that cause something similar in me is the aftermath of Alexander the Great's campaingns

@denniscleary7580 11 ай бұрын

Keep ‘em coming wizards 👍😊

@sageofcaledor8188 11 ай бұрын

Great video! Thanks for making it. I have no words to say except how tragic this was. The Oath the Sons swore made them heroes when Morgoth had the jewels but the Oath now is compelling them to act as villains.

@faustograssi7841 8 ай бұрын

If I do not go wrong, the dwarves refused to give up the Nauglamìr not because they thought it beloged to them, but because Tingo refused to pay the decided price, and only then the dwarves decided to keep the necklace as a payment for their work.

@wedgeantillies66 11 ай бұрын

Destruction of Doriath and Gondalin not soon after is a knockdown affect of curses of Morgoth and those of his minions acting upon various key players and rulers of those kingdoms to negative affect and cause the events that would lead directly to the downfall of those cities and kingdoms.

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@Emanon... 9 ай бұрын

In the end, it was about the senseless slaughter we committed along the way.

@00martoneniris86 11 ай бұрын

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@richardthomas9497 11 ай бұрын

8:30 It should noted that Beren was one-handed, having been bitten off by the Werewolf Carcharoth along with the Silmaril. Even given the epithets of Beren Erchamion ("one-handed") and Camlost ("empty handed").

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@haldemarest 11 ай бұрын

I always had a feeling that Celegorm had secretly survived since all it said was that he "fell"

@juergen4ever 11 ай бұрын

"To fell" in this context implies death.

@haldemarest 11 ай бұрын

Or did it???

@Mr.LaughingDuck 11 ай бұрын

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@KaiHung-wv3ul 11 ай бұрын

Probably he's dead, felled has long been used as a synonym for killed in the Legendarium.

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@00martoneniris86 11 ай бұрын

For the next what if series i have some suggestions What if Beren took All the 3 silmarils from morgoths crown 👑 What if the eastern Roman empire won the battle of manzikert What if Greece won the battle of Petra What if the france revolution dident happen What if All of elfs came Tho valinor Or what if All the elfs staid in middle earth What if Anakin Skywalker killed Palpatine in Revenge of the sith What if Darth Vader killed padme snapped her neck with the force in Revenge of the sith What if Finwe father of Fëornor survived What if America the united states' won the war of 1812 W

@emerestthisk990 11 ай бұрын

Great ideas

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@parasf2984 11 ай бұрын

Beautifully explained

@ruaidhrilb9209 10 ай бұрын

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@MrTrakiiski 11 ай бұрын

Simply splendid!

@WhoIsCalli 9 ай бұрын

Great stuff, a part of the First Age I’m not familiar with. So thanks

@venkats9674 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for all your video covering so many fantasies. Could you please cover Star Wars old republic and the powerful sith empire and the great mandalore

@rufusshinra9124 11 ай бұрын

A fantastic video, thank you.

@MuratKeremOzcan 11 ай бұрын

Love it! Thank you! Thank you!

@ianheins650 11 ай бұрын

Nice work dude thanks

@robbabcock_ 11 ай бұрын

Great video!

@Matthew_080 11 ай бұрын

Amazing video!

@KaiHung-wv3ul 11 ай бұрын

I've read this many times before, but dang, this is dark, but I know it'll get worse.

@jeremypaillotin9801 11 ай бұрын

Great stuff

@sourabhmayekar3354 9 ай бұрын

Awesome

@Enerdhil 11 ай бұрын

Elu Thingol and Doriath were victims of Morgoth's curse on Hurin as well as the Oath of Fëanor.

@minatodroger7890 11 ай бұрын

Dior was him

@anyoneattheendoftime4932 2 ай бұрын

Thingol having a heated gaming moment.

@SuperBadadan 11 ай бұрын

MVP of the armies of Morgoth: Sons of Feanor

@user-pb7ch5kl8x 11 ай бұрын

Heh. Guys, this is the third video which has Fall in it!

@1998topornik 11 ай бұрын

Faenor vengeance strikes again!

@matthewmiller9485 10 ай бұрын

If you want to know why dwarves and elves in Middle Earth dislike each other, THIS is why!!!

@3rebornxd 11 ай бұрын

Yes

@00martoneniris86 11 ай бұрын

What if Desmond Miles dident sacrifice himself in ac3

@patjuice8677 11 ай бұрын

Can you do documentary for Legend of the Galactic Heroes

@WarbossR0kt00fSant0s 7 ай бұрын

It was insane that Morgoth didn't need to do anything at this point, he's just sitting in his chair, eating popcorn and drinks made out of Elven bones and blood as he's amused that the free peoples are doing his work for him.

@jozzieokes3422 11 ай бұрын

👍

@AncestorEmpireGaming 11 ай бұрын

0:42 okay Shadow of Mordor/Shadow of War

@Godzilla00X 11 ай бұрын

Would love to see you guys cover primal

@starkilr101 11 ай бұрын

No need for that RPG. Already played the Shadow series

@kanahjohnson509 11 ай бұрын

Has anyone tried the Lotr game in the ad?

@TheRavenLord1 11 ай бұрын

Hail Lord Morgoth.

@sevball9735 11 ай бұрын

ey lads u should do a video on fallout

@Glorfindel_117 11 ай бұрын

I wish these guys didnt go videos on other series (none of which I care about) so that they could post tolkien videos more often than once a month...

@theawesomeman9821 11 ай бұрын

This sounds a lot like Game of Thrones

@vasilistrizis4544 11 ай бұрын

Word to the wise: Please avoid making or using magic gems, rings and swords. In that universe you will almost certainly be killed by an obnoxious pointy-eared tw*t with daddy issues 😂

@KaiHung-wv3ul 11 ай бұрын

Swords are cool so long as they're not evil, jewelery is best to be avoided unless it's given to you by Finrod Felagund.

@Colonelspicyweinr 11 ай бұрын

Day 2 of asking for legend of the galactic heroes

@juergen4ever 11 ай бұрын

Gonna have to agree with my fellow LotGH enjoyer.

@MaxMinstats 11 ай бұрын

Lol trying to sneak it through customs by calling them electronic arts instead of EA

@uriustosh 11 ай бұрын

The music is always too loud on these videos.

@majestic8054 11 ай бұрын

It amazes me how nonsensical the Dwarves & Elves are . They rather take fight over jewels by destroying 2 of the last strongholds in Middle Earth than reorganize and continue the fight against Melkor. Melkor really didn't have to do anything. Gondolin is about to fall anyway due to stupid treachery so Melkor would get his way out of pure Envy & Greed.

@JC-qz3jj 11 ай бұрын

Please, it's Dwarf not Dorf.

@tugbatok9008 10 ай бұрын

i love the production of this channel..but first kings and generals..now wizards and warriors..why no female counterparts? also in your videos i see a male focus. i'm not telling this from an aggressive point of view, but maybe you can also focus great female leaders in both channels