The Enclave had to have a hidden command center where they were controlling the main fighting force in the capital wasteland
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@user-jm8ri8kb4k3 жыл бұрын
President Eden: DO YOU REALLY THINK THIS IS ALL MY TROOPS THAT ARE JUST SO CONVENIENTLY PLACED IN THE BASE YOU DESTROYED? THINK VAULT DWELLER THINK!
@user-jm8ri8kb4k3 жыл бұрын
@@Chosen_Ash well he says think two times in the comics so
@genericghoulnpc40103 жыл бұрын
No he doesnt
@user-jm8ri8kb4k3 жыл бұрын
@@genericghoulnpc4010 yes he does bro don’t make a fool out of yourself cmon
@UnknownOps3 жыл бұрын
It feels too damn convenient, don't you think? Also they're the US Government, with Politicians, Military Generals and Personnel, They could have seen how putting your eggs all in one basket is a dumb idea, it's too damn easy if it meant sending a payload to destroy them that quickly.
@raphhdtv30563 жыл бұрын
@@genericghoulnpc4010 I've recently read the comics and can confirm, he does indeed say it twice
@subdiee3 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the enclave I just want to be able to side with them during the next single player fallout
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
There's still time in 76.
@saulgoodman48713 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative there's still time to make it right I think. They could fix it and go all out with a huge enclave expansion where we members get a strange radio broadcast requesting all enclave to assist the expansion to a new base and prove mount weather is the big base
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@saulgoodman4871 Bethesda's been adding hints to the Enclave for ages now, if that 2022 roadmap doesn't have anything on it I quit.
@Urzhek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy we always get the bad guy card
@saulgoodman48713 жыл бұрын
@@Urzhek I've actually noticed the Brits and other Europeans like us more than our fellow "Americans"
@SATAN99TH3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the Texas Enclave is a thing, Chicago Enclave is confirmed to exist nonetheless. Finally the Enclave could be in space commanded by Colonel Autumn Senior; aka the Autumn we know and loves father.
@dottietyre90623 жыл бұрын
Non canon but a Floridian Enclave exists besides it's not farfetched to believe we got into space
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@dottietyre9062 How do you know there's a Floridian Enclave?
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of a Texas Enclave. As with everything Bethesda could still say Chicago got wiped out or it became a major settlement. Most likely if the Enclave did retreat from D.C they would head to Chicago.
@SATAN99TH3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I hadn’t heard of the supposed “Floridian” Enclave either until today. I’m just a hopeful that’s all. An astute Enclave supporter
@dottietyre90623 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative it's said there's a Floridian brotherhood and Enclave but it's non canon. Also I'm a Floridian myself
@republicradio4313 жыл бұрын
Its so sad when poor writing is our best hope to see the Enclave again
@SATAN99TH3 жыл бұрын
Chicago man, could be a massive fortress of Enclave found within or around those ruins
@republicradio4313 жыл бұрын
@@SATAN99TH but there will never be a fallout in chicago
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@republicradio431 Chicago is like the 3rd largest city in America or something, it's not unheard of that they would do it. NY would be further up the list for most people, but I seem to remember that Fallout 4 was originally going to be set in NY but they changed it to Boston, so I don't see them doing one in NY anytime soon.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Bad writing got us into this mess, it'll get us out.
@SATAN99TH3 жыл бұрын
@@republicradio431 The Enclave have these things called “VB-02” vertibirds, they’re really damned good at relocation, it is one of there greatest strengths. You must recognize this
@yoshibutkagekira78993 жыл бұрын
What if the entire Island of greenland is an enclave command station
@oscarbelmare_223 жыл бұрын
That’d be sick
@lukasvoorhis69643 жыл бұрын
A fallout that takes place in Regions that are near the Arctic circle, such as Alaska, Canada, or Greenland would be cool
@keddrifft3 жыл бұрын
The enclave must have more bases as vertibirds only have a range of about 175 miles (oil rig to navarro) and California to dc is nearly 2000 so they had to refuel somewhere
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
From NV we know they had refueling stations around the country. Still, I have no clue how they would make it to D.C, even with bases everywhere.
@dorag1223 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiativeprobably they were stationed there from the very start
@probsnoodlee56302 ай бұрын
It would be cool if there was a metric ton of enclave troops at Hawaii or something and the way the vertibirds got the coast was landing on the aircraft carrier which I think they had then deployed closer to the coast or something idk I think it would be cool and would make sense why no one has seen them
@tucolucious71283 жыл бұрын
At this point, I've had enough BOS. Bethesda, let us side with the Enclave in the next Fallout game.
@SolusLupi3 жыл бұрын
The Enclave is a faction that could never be really said to be “done and gone” no matter what a single game claims. Just think of all the military sites, bunkers, black sites and various locations across all of the u.s, canada, and post reclamation of anchorage; Alaska territory as well as other offshore facilities and even space assets. Then the question of where all the families that have been raising the core population of all the Enclave military forces we encounter? Soldiers do not just spawn for a highly militarized dogmatic group they would need to be raised in a tight knit community that has standards of living and ideology that would justify viewing the general wastelanders as impure, backwards, lesser peoples.
@ChannelNotFound3 жыл бұрын
Also they have access to all the vaults. and could recoup their losses by going to the control vaults/
@america87062 жыл бұрын
Enclave in space? Fighting the Zetans? Holding back the Zetan invasion singlehandedly? Its more likely than you think. We know the Zetans want to kill or enslave all humans. We also know that pre-war humanity was well aware of their existence and had faked the space race in order to create the technogy to establish contact with the extraterrestrials. We don't know why the Zetans haven't invaded yet. Imagine Enclave super soldiers in space and in Enclave power armor going 40k on some xenos for the past 250 years. The thin black line holding back hundreds if not thousands of Zetan warships and colony ships through sheer tenacity, bravery, ruthlessness, and ingenuity. While messing around on Earth destroying entire factions singlehandedly and reshaping the Wasteland in our image, the player receives a mysterious radio signal that requires a quest to decode. Then the location of the transmission is given along with a message asking for more, you guessed it, Enclave reinforcements. We go there obviously and when we do a loud boom of thunder sounds as four heavily armored and quite frankly huge Enclave soldiers teleport around you holding onto some crazy plasma/laser/zetan combination of weapons. Then another drops in, this one obviously in even more modified power armor, obviously and officer. You go through the talks and if you choose you get teleported to the Enclave moon base. And thus you start the Fallout DLC, Black Steel. That would be the coolest frickin DLC and finally shut up us Enclave fanboys and girls.
@boombirdking21183 жыл бұрын
Apparently, to what I heard, there were multiple divisions of the Enclave that planned to work together after surviving the Great War. However, communications failed and all the groups were left isolated in the post nuclear world. I think they could return since other sects may be laying lower and waiting, rather then be as aggressive as the groups in 2 and 3 were. Maybe there’s some other groups hiding in central U.S. or even Canada
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
That's sound like an exact description of one of my videos, the Enclave will always be at government bunkers.
@themagalanium94916 ай бұрын
there's also evidence that points towards a vault in Canada. which means that the enclave might also have operations there as well
@ironwolf22443 жыл бұрын
*as to the main topic of your video, it's said in the lore that Autumn Sr. is a member of a contingent of the Enclave on a orbital Space station. Therefore he could be assisting in the operations in the Capital wastes.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Where does it say that? I've literally never seen that before.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@ironwolf2244 That page doesn't say anything about him being on a space station.
@ironwolf22443 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative that's true. As to that part it might've been a theory of someones. I can't recall who though..
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@ironwolf2244 That would probably come from this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNSDbJR6s7ywfWw.html It's filled with wild inaccuracies in the lore and presents many theories as fact, I would take everything in the video as theory.
@ironwolf22443 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative ah okay. And thanks btw for the consistent replies. Sometimes you comment on something and you don't get a reply for like a month or something. But your replies are quite quick. That's appreciated.
@davidmarsh79333 жыл бұрын
Here would be an interesting scenario. A previously unknown Vault opens and openly identifies itself as Enclave. Due to 250 years of isolation (give it that extra 50 years from Fallout 3 so the Enclave is out of everyone's mind) Due to 250 years of isolation the Enclave Vault has had massive reforms, but their primary mission to rebuild America is still their primary mission. The Enclave attempts to contact the Rig, Raven Rock, and the Whitesprings bunker, and a few other Enclave Bunkers and safe houses. The first 3 remain silent, but the other locations respond and acknowledge the existence of the Vault. The Vault Enclave begin to build outside their Vault, and erecting safe zones out beyond the Vault. Due to the Vaul's isolation from the rest of the world, They don't know about the Rig or Raven Rock's destruction or why they were destroyed. However this Vault starts recruiting from locals and effectively starts rebuilding. The BOS learn of this faction Enclave of Enclave and immediately declare war, The Enclave and BOS fight an all out war over this new territory and eventually give up fighting because neither side really understands why they hate each other. but rather enter a period of cold war, and espionage against each other.
@Power65633 жыл бұрын
that could be a new setting for a fallout game or dlc
@deadchannelwithbadopinonsi90773 жыл бұрын
Fallout new vegas but instead of NCR and Legion it's the Enclave and BOS, i actually really like this idea tbh
@TERMINATOR39003 жыл бұрын
Doesn't that sort of get rid of the Enclave's identity though? If you just make them a regular group of people trying to rebuild then they're really only Enclave in name only. Basically the same issue people had with the BoS when Fallout 3 came out.
@brycenlanager12163 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. You could make them less racist to mutants (still treating ghouls like second class citizens) but make them extremely authoritarian and expansionist. “They are the rightful American government, dammit, and you’re going to be annexed whether you like it or not!” Highly militarized too. But that comes with benefits like more security and more access to pre war tech and even new tech. Make them like the Legion but better technologically. If you still want to add more moral complexity have them still hate the Brotherhood (being traitors to the rightful government), the NCR (being usurpers) and the Legion (tribals playing at civilization). This makes the players who like these factions feel more leery to the Enclave or maybe like them more if they really hate one of those factions.
@thatnerd93743 жыл бұрын
Ohhh that sounds Cool
@user-lk7xb5ll9e3 жыл бұрын
Bethesda understands that the Enclave is the most popular Faction in Fallout but they dont Do something about it.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Is it? I always thought the Brotherhood was the normie popular faction.
@user-lk7xb5ll9e3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Only because there is a lot of Brotherhood Content If the Enclave had this much Concent it would be way popular.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@user-lk7xb5ll9e Well yes, considering how criminalized the Enclave are by the developers, they are remarkably popular.
@killinspecialist19653 жыл бұрын
@@arkroyal especially considering that Autumns enclave would have been the best incarnation of them in game yet
@Chosen_Ash3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative bro honestly I have no clue the ncr is the most popular then the bos
@g-man99883 жыл бұрын
I've always found it upsetting how Bethesda seems to actively hate on The Enclave nowadays as they've retconned most of the technology they created like the X-01 power armor
@thesovereign2803 жыл бұрын
The X-01 is the pre-war prototype that led to the creation of the advanced power armor.
@g-man99883 жыл бұрын
@@thesovereign280 not in the old fallouts in the old games the X-01 was created by The Enclave because up to that point the most advanced power armor before the Great war was the T-51 but they retconned that so the most advanced was the X-01 and the standard military power armor was the T-60
@robertsmalls22933 жыл бұрын
Luckily Bethesda games aren’t canon.
@g-man99883 жыл бұрын
@@robertsmalls2293 if I was in charge of Bethesda I'd just initiate a full-on reboot and let obsidian make the true Fallout 3 Van Buren and reset the Canon so it makes sense again lol
@Rtry-wd6pj3 жыл бұрын
@@g-man9988 No, in the classic fallouts the x-01 was never mentioned. The advanced power armor was stated to have been created by the Enclave, and that is still true. The advanced power armor is just the enclave's advanced version of the x-01
@0hvist2 жыл бұрын
I feel that The Enclave would have been an interesting faction to explore in-detail, and to showcase why I think it would be, I will pose a question for you viewers: _"What if The Minutemen were actually a part of The Enclave?"_ A good bit of backstory to go by would be the events of the assault on the Jefferson Memorial: where the Brotherhood of Steel launches its assault on The Enclave's base over at Project: Purity in order to reclaim the water purifier. During the assault before heading into the control room the Lone Wanderer and their party runs into Colonel Augustus Autumn, the de-facto leader of the Enclave present in Washington D.C., and there are a few ways to deal with him: one of which most of us did is by just outright killing him. But there is the other options: one of which involves talking with Autumn and learning that their reasons for taking the Water Purifier was to solidify themselves as a political center for the Capital Wasteland and reclaim power and security in the region for the denizens: something that they have been preaching and talking about at length through Enclave Radio and through the posters that the Enclave have been putting up at various locations on Old World Billboards and walls promoting the Enclave. But then, that begs the question: "If the Enclave was being genuine about their motives on completing the Water Purifier for the greater good of the Wasteland, than why is it whenever random Wastelanders are always being attacked by Enclave soldiers when they are just walking past?" It has come to my attention that in all likelihood, The Enclave is divided into two camps in _Fallout 3:_ there are the members who are fiercely loyal to Colonel Autumn, and those who follow the orders of President John Henry Eden. It is likely that the soldiers that we end up fighting against for most of the game including the random Enclave Patrols we run across are actually those who are knowingly or unknowingly following the orders of John Henry Eden (He is a Computer: perhaps to muddy the waters President Eden plays back a recording of Colonel Autumn's voice as though it was him giving them orders over the radio to the Enclave soldiers in the field while simultaneously issuing them with a Gag Order to not share the reports back with the Colonel), and there is also the Plan that President Eden planned to use a modified strain of FEV in order to kill all of the wastelanders in a bid similar to the plan issued by President Dick Richardson back in _Fallout 2,_ a plan that Colonel Autumn did not want any part of or to even entertain doing when bringing it up with him. Presenting with this, he will stand down, realizing that President Eden had destroyed everything that he wanted to accomplish for the Enclave in the Capital Wasteland, tarnishing the message of peace through order and patriotism he was trying to spread to the denizens of the Capital Wasteland, resulting in him and his fellow soldiers to just walk away without any fight. The part where The Minutemen come into play is following the events of this peaceful option with Colonel Autumn: where he and his Enclave Loyalists leave behind the Capital Wasteland. It would be some time later that Colonel Autumn realizes that the Enclaves' philosophy is a self-destructive path for them due to their constant attempts at maintaining purity while time and again they are continuously wiped out by weaker factions that consequently have more numbers to throw at them because they present themselves as enemies to the people one way or another through the incompetence of their Presidents. Colonel Autumn would decide to follow a different path: to trace back to the roots of their government to some time back before the events of the Sino-American War to learn what exactly makes someone an American, and in doing so emulates the styles and trappings of the Colonial Militia back when America comprised of the original 13 Colonies and their daring stand against British Tyranny that had dominated the world for centuries before in a bid to establish their own Independence. Colonel Autumn needed more, he also needed a symbol and an icon for them to rally behind on the battlefield; someone who wasn't a part of the Enclave but was undoubtedly American to the core and had the benefit of viewing the nation not from the perspective of a Politician or a Bureaucrat, but as an everyday citizen who could defend the rights and liberties of its people from the halls of Court or from the frontlines of Battle: which is where the Sole Survivor comes into play at for them, due to Nate and Nora being admitted into Vault 111 and cryogenically frozen for its experiment. It would lend enough credence for The Minutemen to automatically make The Sole Survivor their General; because of their leadership qualities and military history. It would then be through interacting with Preston Garvey, a former staff sergeant of the Enclave now turned into Minutemen soldier that the Sole Survivor would help to rebuild The Enclave by bringing them back to their roots as the protectors of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as The Minutemen. It would serve as a character arc for the Enclave to now be seen as the definitive Good Guys for a change as the disguised officers and soldiers pay attention to our example and rebuild the Commonwealth and reorganize it into a provisional government again. To top it all off, it would also serve as a good character comparison where The Enclave is fighting against The Institute: a faction that followed the same ideologies and beliefs that The Enclave once held back in _Fallout 2,_ a way to show exactly how far the Enclave came as an organization since then under our command.
@livinglie55983 жыл бұрын
In my playthrough of FO3 I spared colonel autumn to stand down. I'm hoping to see him again someday.
@RealAugustusAutumn3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would, but they've backed themselves into a corner. The Enclave were supposed to be a one-off enemy in the original games, and they had to bring them back for F3 to give older players a nostalgic enemy. Lore-wise, the Enclave was eradicated in Fallout 1 and 2, and then eradicated again in Fallout 3. They can't really resurrect them a third time. The only way they could is if they set a new game in Texas or Mexico, but they won't. They'll keep milking the "its been 200 years and nobody has rebuilt anything" theme, instead of actually giving the survivors a history. Realistically, the Enclave would have spent 200 years rebuilding, not just chilling on an oil rig and in Raven Rock
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the Enclave wouldn't have had a real presence in the following Black Isle games. However, I don't believe they were completely gone either. It's obviously unknown at this point as Black Isle didn't even finish their third game, but it's entirely possible they could have brought the Enclave back in a later game. In an early version of Van Buren, the Enclave would have nuked San Francisco. Then there's the Fallout bible entry of the Enclave having scattered around the world before the war. There's also the references to them in Van Buren such as the rocket and the lost patrol. Bethesda Fallout almost certainly gave the Enclave more time in the spotlight, but they weren't gone in Black Isle's Fallout. With people already settling well in Appalachia in 2103, Bethesda might as well go the whole way and add the Enclave at Mount Weather to start rebuilding Appalachia even more. Then have Appalachia as an advanced area by 2287, compared to other places like Boston which are complete shitholes.
@RealAugustusAutumn3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative That would be a pretty nice touch - to have a super advanced Enclave society in the mountains above the rest of the shit wastes
@randomtommy56063 жыл бұрын
Miami, Mexico and Likely the Decently Sized pockets around The U.S
@eznove32553 жыл бұрын
There’s one state the enclave completely control I think it’s around Detroit somewhere around there
@klidthelid83613 жыл бұрын
You say they wouldn’t bring back the enclave for a third time, but the BOS magic wand’s its way into every game in the series, no matter the timeframe or location
@backintheblues45903 жыл бұрын
The Enclave has been my favorite faction in the entire Fallout series, it's good to know they may not be entirely in shambles.
@George-real3 жыл бұрын
Next fallout game should have you raised in the enclave instead of a vault and give you the option to side with them, side with the brotherhood and betray them, same thing with some new faction, or overthrow the leadership crush all the other factions and declare yourself president for life and begin the reconquest of America
@msbunnyg13 жыл бұрын
Hey Omega Initiative I just wanna say I think your contents great and deserves way more credit. You are my favorite fallout theorist over Oxhorn and violet puma gaming. Keep up the good work you always give me hope that the Enclave has a chance in the future to return. Keep uploading and keep being you!
@bfmtrooper54543 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind seeing a more reformed enclave at some point so it isn't simply "the enclave is evil" or "the enclave is good" it has good and bad characteristics. I mean, even now you can debate good in the enclave..It's just overshadowed by bad.
@8vantor83 жыл бұрын
agreed, they should be like a more moral(based on modern standards) Legion, or a more competent NCR. but there has to be reasons not to join them, other then the fact they are the Enclave.
@TonyTheTostone3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found this video. I love learning about the Enclave they are such and intriguing faction. What I really like about them is they are not this huge army faction with 1,000,000 soldiers (that we know of) but they are just a technologically superior and resourceful faction. I mean it never crossed my mind to ever use something like an outfitted oil rig in the ocean as a base. But it makes sense as no one is going to use a whole nuke to take out individual oil rigs. Heck i wouldn’t be surprised if they are using more than one rigs and that’s just where more of their personnel are in hiding and in preparation. Even using a mobile launch platform as a mobile base. Like I said they got all the secrets to hidden bases and they know how to utilize even old technology to benefit them.
@bobawett24583 жыл бұрын
The US has 7 fleets stationed around the world I figured the Enclave has to be in contact with atleast 1
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@bobawett2458 I'll get to that.
@davidmarsh79333 жыл бұрын
most importantly, they understand how to make new technology
@davidmarsh79333 жыл бұрын
@@arkroyal in the grand scheme of it. the BoS are technophiles
@222oree3 жыл бұрын
Enclave had a space station that crash landed in fallout 1 or 2
@SES77 Жыл бұрын
I already knew this for sometime, but we already knew there were other Enclave outposts in the wasteland (Raven Rock was one orignally), but also Chicago and (🙄) Appalachia. But also during the battle of Adam's Airforce base we find a holotape in which Enclave High Command (whose members we never encounter, leaving Colonel Autumn the highest ranking officer we see or meet) ordering the use of artillery strikes in order to drive the BoS back. Likewise, we also learn that the Enclave has numerous Sigma Squads yet for their "last stand" only one is deployed to guard the Mobile Base Crawler. If this was truley the Enclave's last stand, we would see all of them deployed at Adams to hold off the BoS. And this is just the evidence we see in Broken Steel (not including the outposts). Strongly suggesting that we are only encountering a small detachment of the Enclave, and not their main forces.
@VampyricDoge142 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that Raven Rock is in Pennsylvania. They weren't even that close to the capital, as you have to cross the longest north/south section of Maryland. I love how much the world shrinks in those games.
@siamihari87173 жыл бұрын
Oh i cant wait for the Old World Blues mod for Hoi4 to be finished it will be epic
@jacobpugh95313 жыл бұрын
The enclave really needs a anti-hero branch that holds those that honestly care about restoring America and her people. Recruiting her fallen sons and removing the mutant threat. A force for honest good in the wasteland. A ember of what once was and could be again. Something a person could take pride in helping. I'm tired of them being written as nothing more than mad men bent on extermination. I would like to see a joinable faction in the next game. One that has been written well.
@fort8093 жыл бұрын
That sounds like Fo4’s brotherhood but without the tech hoarding. Technologically advanced army faction that shoots anyone with a cancer tumor for being a mutant
@jacobpugh95313 жыл бұрын
@@fort809 The brotherhood was nothing more than a cult dedicated to hoarding tech. Founded by former soldiers. I'm talking about the remnants of the government finally doing what they're supposed to do. And begin bringing America back one village at a time. Taking the time to bring g.e.c.k.s and other methods to the wastes. Opening vaults and guiding those people in the reconstruction of America. Recruiting , training, and equipping a wasteland militia to protect her people. To bring law and order to the wastes . To build schools to begin restoring the light of innovation to her lands. With the enclave standing ready to strike down the barbarism of the wastes and finally protect the decedents of the people! Rather than being genocidal maniacs hell bent on the extermination of everyone not them.
@mirage_goodmen22593 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think f4s story is just all in his or her head
@imjusthere90063 жыл бұрын
It was all bad dream
@Angel_4232 жыл бұрын
They haven't woken up from cryo stasis yet vault tec are still waiting for the enclave to arrive and pick up the untainted human specimen
@gangstergastino40943 жыл бұрын
I know people do not believe in bethesda's competence any longer especially after fallout 76 (some never believed in them) but i really hope Enclave will comeback in fallout 5 or whatever the next game is gonna be called.
@yomanh3 жыл бұрын
The enclave live on through the members of radposting on facebook
@the_gaming_rabbit80173 жыл бұрын
DC has one advantage. If the Enclave could've pushed out the Brotherhood the Enclave would've had Liberty Prime assuming the Brotherhood didn't try and destroy it or take it with them.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the Enclave knew about Liberty Prime.
@the_gaming_rabbit80173 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative perhaps they didn't, but I would find that a bit odd. Sure it's main purpose was to drive China out of Alaska but surely there had to have been some documentation somewhere about the largest, most heavily armed, and one of the most advanced robots in the world. Maybe the D.C forces weren't completely aware but it's just odd especially since it was put in the Pentagon aka the former headquarters for the Join Chiefs and the rest of the U.S military high command outside the President
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@the_gaming_rabbit8017 They most likely had it in some old document somewhere, but I doubt it was present information in the minds of the Enclave.
@8vantor83 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative my guess is that they knew it was there, but they thought it couldn't work. Liberty Prime was never deployed prewar because it had power problems, so the enclave never retrieved it because they thought it would be a waste of resources.
@kobra66603 жыл бұрын
The enclave have to be somewhere in the gulf states since theyve been abandoned since resources went dry and were a major oil industry as a major hub perfect place to lay low in secret
@drskull.3 жыл бұрын
My head cannon is that theres an enclave base for every pre war sector of the USA, so if we went to the midwest or Texas we'd find them again
@theadeptuscustodes3 жыл бұрын
That's it. I'm going to the last place uncorrupted my communism: *SPACE*
@Angel_4232 жыл бұрын
Not to mars though because that's a RED planet
@lukaszeckenbauer16957 ай бұрын
Im quite late but you do know that the first guy in space was a cosmonaut?
@bobawett24583 жыл бұрын
America has a gigantic Navy, that Navy is spread throughout the world in Oceans that wouldn’t be targeted. I believe the Enclave probably has atleast 1 of the 7 US Fleets
@pierceplaysstudios2453 жыл бұрын
Let's hope your right. But if Bethesda doesn't do that there is still Chicago
@JohnTrustworthy3 жыл бұрын
The way I explain it to myself is that the oil rig was the central hub of command for an otherwise decentralized nation, much like the Senate was to the U.S. whose principles they base themselves is. However with it's destruction and the death of their higher command staff and leader, the Enclave split itself into a plethora of factions each trying to unite the rest under it's own command and the one at the capital wasteland saw the opportunity to do so by purifying the old capital of the U.S. and turning it into a rallying banner from where to command all the rest of the Enclave.
@charliekahn420511 ай бұрын
Enclave communication is way too robust and thorough for the destruction of the capitol to deal that much damage. Most likely they just had a designated survivor at Navarro or similar, who appointed a new cabinet. The actual president (not Eden) is probably at high command, wherever that is, and Eden is probably just an experimental emergency measure.
@RandomnessCreates3 жыл бұрын
Wish they went more Josh Sawyer in terms of the Post Post-Apocalypse with city sized settlements rather than rotting Old World infrastructure still being used. Plus the abundance of mutated flora that could've grown over everything.
@robingrube3495 Жыл бұрын
Here's an idea, what if the enclave has a gigantic underground city moon base, and that the oil rig and all other enclave bases/vault-tec vaults were a front for the real moon project? Maybe during the great war, a massive rocket filled to the brim with enclave personnel left the Earth's atmosphere, after a century of construction they began scheming to retake the US by any means necessary, be it directly or indirectly. Sort of like an evil twisted fallout version of the Apollo 11 moon landing. But what do you think about this idea? 🤔
@ColonelBragg2 жыл бұрын
Not unbelievable that it was just a smaller force considering Autumn was just a Colonel and not a General
@franzwolf80823 жыл бұрын
I only played very little of fallout 3 and made a few endings on fallout nv, and funny thing is that i always assumed that the enclave of fallout 3 and the one mentioned in nv were different branches of, but not the entire organization. I thought they were something like the "chapters" of the brotherhood but perhaps with a central command organizing them, since i had the impression that each brotherhood chapter was kinda independent from each other.
@klidthelid83613 жыл бұрын
Honestly i think the main reason why we can never side with them in any of the games isn’t a moral reason, but because they are just too powerful. All other factors are much less significant so it allows for player choice of faction without any drastic changes for future games and removing a need for a “cannon ending”. Fallout factions are either mostly region dependent or just don’t do much (hence the BOS, since they never try to form any type of government). If the enclave won in a future fallout game, they would undoubtedly expand their control over much of the wasteland affecting other games, and thus would force the need for a “cannon ending” of them either winning or losing
@ironwolf22443 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm a firm Brotherhood of Steel member.. I should point out that the Enclave had a good chance of winning in Fallout 3. If they'd used proper tactics (instead of how Bethesda wrote them), it would have gone down like this: - the Capital contingent of the Enclaves vertibird forces fly in, straight into the Citadel since they have no AA defenses. Hellfire troopers are sent in to quickly liquidate high ranking BoS soldiers and the leadership. Any troops of the BoS not able to be taken out in that blitzkrieg sweep would be finished off by supplementary infantry forces of the Enclave, these being the Mk2 soldiers. [Situation in which the BoS manage to get Liberty Prime in the field before the Enclave assault on the Citadel] - the Brotherhood preparing for an assault of large magnitude, preemptively activate Liberty Prime. As it makes it's way to the bridge outside the Citadel perimeter, the Enclave send three vertibirds to intercept it. As Liberty Prime detects their approach, it uses it's sensor beam to annihilate the leading vertibirds, but the other two open fire. As they distract the colossus, the Enclave operations base initiates it's orbital systems, and eliminate Liberty Prime. The great metal automaton falls low as it's defeat is realized. The Brotherhood give a valiant fight, but they are soon routed by the infantry of the Enclave. (Now I should also point out that in such a situation, the Brotherhood could still win. They have tactics they themselves could use. Not to mention I'd redesign the Citadel abit and give them AA defenses, because other lesser governmental buildings have them, and you're telling me the Pentagons defenses wouldn't last? That's simply ridiculous.. Also, I'd redesign Liberty Prime itself, it isn't the most effective design. Which is abit sad for a few reasons, one being House is a genius, yet he helped design such a tincan. If I redesigned it, it would look like this): [Liberty Prime] - no nuclear backpack (who seriously thought this would work?) - plasma caster for anti-vehicle purposes - missile launcher systems for anti-bunker, fortifications and de-mining purposes - flamethrower or laser gatling for anti-infantry purposes (all weapons mentioned upsized of course).
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
There is so many way the Enclave could have easily won over the Brotherhood, but Bethesda wanted them to be the bad guys, even though they literally want the same thing as the Brotherhood. And yeah, liberty prime is dumb, his main weapon is just him throwing mini nukes.
@ironwolf22443 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative in terms of getting the Purifier operational and wanting to aid the wastes,I agree they are of like mind(in Autumns case, Eden of course is a genocidal machine). Though they differ in methodology. The Enclave want to rebuild the wastes into a Second America. This would give the wastelanders security, ease of access to resources and the like. And the Enclave would ensure the reintroduction of Old World American values. - but then you have the Brotherhood of Steels mindset. They seek to aide the wastes, but not by making the wastes into a version of what they once were in a bygone time, but by preventing such circumstances that lead to the Great War/Resource Wars (or Sino-American War as it is sometimes called). They believe that by regulating the spread of advanced tech(particularly military grade tech of Fallouts universe, these being energy weapons, power armor, military vehicles in some cases, and of course weaponized nuclear technology), that the human species will not be able to threaten its own existence once again. Now this isn't to say the BoS believe wars will stop, that skirmishes wouldn't occur, such is human nature. But the total annihilation of humankind, the complete decimation of us.. this is what cannot pass. The Brotherhood don't seek to rebuild America as it was because they see the Old world as corrupt, and blind to it's own power. They seek to protect humanity from itself, and to be the vanguard of a new path for humanity. Now I can see some points for each side, I might be a brother of Steel, but one must never be dogmatic, for if one doesn't adapt, then one dies. Which is one reason why I have friends who also support the Enclave, NCR, Institute, Followers of the Apocalypse, and one even for Caesar's Legion. We argue about many subjects, but we have respect for each other, and can come to common ground enough of times. So I never was for the decision Bethesda made for Fallout 3. It's writing was far too simplistic, and didn't have nuance. Nor branching paths, such as what could have been done with Autumn. Imagine if an Enclave civil war had been available, one, Eden. Intent on cleansing the wastes of all divergent life from pure humans. The other, Autumn. Who seeks to reestablish a new America, and to heal the wastes in his own way. In such a game, you'd have had four sides to choose from. Outcasts, Lyons Pride Brotherhood, Edens chosen, and Autumns Enclave. It could have been much more than what we got..
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@ironwolf2244 I don't know if you've seen my video on Fallout 4's factions but, f the Institute, I have yet to hear an argument that justifies not killing them all on sight.
@ironwolf22443 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I have not seen that actually. I'll look into it.
@chriskopp13613 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, why wouldn't the enclave just blow the bridge and drop prime into the Potomac.
@sotheofdaein3 ай бұрын
I have an idea of a fallout game set in texas where the three factions are caesars legion, the enclave, and a faction called OLYMPUS led by one of the master’s former lieutenants who wants to create a super mutant empire based in austin. Basically the super mutants are becoming more technologically advanced and organized and the enclave want to wipe them out before they conquer america
@VorynDagoth4 ай бұрын
The enclave are alive and making dogmeat clones for the next fallout games
@enclavesoldier69283 жыл бұрын
Yay more people like me will not get murdered by the Brotherhood of steel
@markmagician24713 жыл бұрын
Ad victoriam
@fugg85293 жыл бұрын
Yay
@starwarsknowledge20173 жыл бұрын
Could you cover the us army post war and what happend to it.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Sure, there's obviously many different factions that it devolved into though.
@1Loftwing13 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I can't wait to see that video
@starwarsknowledge20173 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative thats the thing you could show how it split upp into the Bos, enclave and ghouls that might have joined more open faction's like the ncr. The knowledge to use artilery and military dicipline must have come from somewhere.
@lazwardazure7163 жыл бұрын
@@starwarsknowledge2017 the Gunners as well most likely (in Boston at least)
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
@@lazwardazure716 Yeah probably.
@mysickmemepagebro32713 жыл бұрын
I just want to know what happened to the Chicago enclave from the EDE logs
@HeartWood-rsx7m3 жыл бұрын
I think DC enclave is a rogue group or smaller group (not the main group focus, so a bigger group can come with new tech and wipe of BoS) and or a distraction for brotherhood. something is happening for the enclave that's hidden in the dark. maybe enclave thought the smaller group would last longer but enclave can still use super mutants or mercs to mess with BoS. enclave is just hiding in the dark, build up or controlling the wasteland in the shadows. I have so many theories
@HeartWood-rsx7m3 жыл бұрын
but that's just a game theory, but do like enclave, I want more of that good old red, white and badass in wasteland again
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
The Enclave in D.C may have been the bulk of the Enclave force, that's why the Enclave hasn't struck back at the Brotherhood yet.
@HeartWood-rsx7m3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I really want the enclave to be controlling fallout world in the shadows, but that was probably the bulk of the forces.
@enclaveboogalo37752 жыл бұрын
PMZ valdez made think the enclave has a navy force. I imagine a division of enclave travelling all throughout the world to conduct experiments and gather resources. Places where America colonized during the great war and is weak against forces like the enclave. Place like philippine. Something like that.
@konradgranqvist81313 жыл бұрын
I think a good idea would be for an Enclave in maybe Louisiana or something, that got nearly defeated in a war against the BoS that they had to recruit outsiders in order to fill their ranks. But an internal civil war is happening between hardcore Enclave fanatics that want to kill all outsiders and the more tolorant, open minded part of the Enclave.
@gavinlinville96912 жыл бұрын
TEXAS ENCLAVE YET STANDS !!!
@rekomstopa1914 Жыл бұрын
Top 4 Places for an Enclave High Command to Secretly be (because we don't know much on the area's) Florida. Interesting new take on Fallout's scenery there. Alaska: After all the fighting there i don't doubt this would make the Enclave a Force to be reckoned with if they have acess to all the weapons/power armor/tech from the battle of Anchorage. Midwest ish area. Illinois Minnasota or Wisconsin Would be good for the Great Lakes to play a part in the game (makes a map border easy on Bethesdas part) And Finally Somewhere by Mexico/Texas. Would be similar to fallout 1 2 and new vegases region but with new spice and NCR could be involved.
@deathgripskaraoke93512 жыл бұрын
when you search "cope" this video is the first result
@-Cheif3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always hoped we’ll see Colonel Autumn again. Is a good guy
@karimhachem7517 Жыл бұрын
He's very nice I've meet him already
@-Cheif Жыл бұрын
@@karimhachem7517 sweet! I hope he’s doing well
@karimhachem7517 Жыл бұрын
@Cheif yeah he is doing well glad to know master cheif is one of us
@gunargundarson16262 жыл бұрын
I love how Brotherhood of Steel and the Enclave basically came from the same bunker in the ground. Yet, their doctrine and mission was vastly different.
@rileykortemusic3 жыл бұрын
It’s easy, the institute is secretly their pawn, developing synths to create a grand army, they were just hiding in space until it’s time to strike. But the institute secretly broke ties with the enclave after they lost in fallout 3, leaving the institute to their own devices and the enclave retreating to a space station
@klidthelid83613 жыл бұрын
They retreated from space… back to space?
@rileykortemusic3 жыл бұрын
@@klidthelid8361 yes 🤣
@MediumRareOpinions3 жыл бұрын
I figured they might be the mysterious benefactors behind the gunners, topping them up with ammunition. Who else could supply a fighting force with that much plasma ammunition? (Since they've given plasma weapons specialised cartridges now instead of generic Energy cells)
@rileykortemusic3 жыл бұрын
@@MediumRareOpinions I like that theory
@MediumRareOpinions3 жыл бұрын
@@rileykortemusic I'm partial to anything that makes the gunners more interesting, they're one of the missed opportunities of Fallout 4. They act like generic but better equipped raiders more than a fleshed out faction and I found that disappointing after being spoiled by New Vegas with its minor factions and reputation systems
@corruptedmember2568 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it would make much sense that the enclave is much bigger then those what we see on screen. They wouldnt wait nearly 200 years on the oil rig and do nothing, same they wouldnt just sit in Raven Rock and doing 30 years nothing either. If the oil rig had only 1000 residents, many of them elderly or children, only few surived etc. the washington outpost wouldnt even have a few hundred members at all. The enclave must have any kind of footholt in the mainland and also huge programms to higher up the birthrates. Same as you say in the video why the hell there is only a Colonel, but not any Generals. So far, so good; But there is a huge Problem, which makes the whole Enclave Lore more or less broken: The Enclave would have acess to nuclear weaponry, pre-war satellites, etc. but never take advantage of? Not against the NCR, not against the BOS... Never? Espacially in Fallout 3, they got attacked by the Brotherhood, but no one come on the idea to use the satellite bombing against the Citadel, literally just wiping out the most of Brotherhood with no efforts? And if there is a backing foothold, why no one comes into the idea to help the Washington chapter and destroy the big thread called BOS together? Many things makes literally no sense.
@Joseph_stevenson18642 жыл бұрын
I’d imagine after the rig was destroyed the higher rankings would have went into hiding somewhere in Canada which was under US control before the Great War
@looweestew27333 жыл бұрын
I hate to break it to you, but I highly doubt that Bethesda actually thought about as hard as you did
@xenodroid Жыл бұрын
Considering they don't even let you join the Enclave, yah you're probably right. They just thought "Well the big bad guys at the end of the last game were the Enclave and you couldn't join them in that game so let's just copy paste that."
@Zrtaylor_FoxyАй бұрын
So like other people said they could be holding up in Chicago or southern cities since we haven’t seen the American south yet. But also since America annexed Canada in Fallout there could tons of Enclave bases and soldiers there. Since Canada is so empty the Chinese might not have nuked it that much leaving the Enclave stronger there
@takeofftales Жыл бұрын
That, and supposidly the Enclave has a navy that we've never seen yet. Which we assume from Fallout 2.
@LB-py9ig2 жыл бұрын
Fallout 2 has a map showing potentially dozens of Enclave bases world wide. Not in the US, *world wide.*
@petpen4537 Жыл бұрын
Vid Idea: What if the chosen one didn't lose an expensive piece of army-issue equipment?
@dillonklasse49803 жыл бұрын
Still think it’d be cool if in the next game we find out that enclave remnants have covertly infiltrated the brotherhood via new recruits and have been manipulating their greatest enemy and corrupting them for decades with extremist ideology, effectively destroying them and reforming their own faction at the same time.
@The-Enclave3 жыл бұрын
It would be naive to think our army consists of only few thourdsants of personel. God bless America. God bless the Enclave.
@sydryi30863 жыл бұрын
God bless the enclave
@Chosen_Ash3 жыл бұрын
Bro what group you from cause your flag garbage
@The-Enclave3 жыл бұрын
@@Chosen_Ash Real Enclave, goverment of United states. We are not bunch of radiation and FEV obsessed lunatics but our goal is restoration of American glory.
@Chosen_Ash3 жыл бұрын
@@The-Enclave so neither of us are with president eden very good then your flag is acceptable and my division isn’t about that we are here to restore America
@The-Enclave3 жыл бұрын
@@Chosen_Ash Great to hear that. God bless you soldier!
@Bludgeta90015 ай бұрын
God bless the Enclave! God bless the 🇺🇸
@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 Жыл бұрын
Since the events of fallout 3 the brotherhood grew stronger yet the enclave grew weaker, they are on an even playing field now
@sydryi30863 жыл бұрын
The signals came from white springs as they could communicate with raven rock and Adams Air Force base
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Whitesprings seemed to be only connected to the oil rig and Raven Rock through land lines, and they were most likely cut, it's not impossible, but it is less likely than somewhere else.
@dottietyre90623 жыл бұрын
Oh so true (RP wise) yes I'm in an RP group on Xbox
@Drew_Thompson2 жыл бұрын
what kind of invasion force brings their non combatant super computer leader with them.
@TranscendentalAirwaves2 жыл бұрын
I hope so, they make great bad guys. They need to make the Brotherhood a bit more fleshed out as well. Both factions feel a bit flat and it'd be nice to see some depth or a choice to be made between them instead of just bad vs good and lots of set pieces to look impressive. It'd be nice to see them in a new fallout, feels a bit lacking without them stomping around like post nuclear nazis. lol
@jacobdicks7784 Жыл бұрын
You make some very valid points throughout the video but I have my own personal theory. One of your biggest points especially towards the start is about the enclave having no reason for being in DC. you do mention how Raven Rock can manufacture buy can’t make humans. I don’t think that mattered much to the Enclave at the time. After losing the oil rig they need a new bug base of operations and a place to rebuild all the tech they lost and gain new recruits. Raven Rock can at least fill two of those. Their only issue would be getting recruits but maybe they focus on that later once they rebuild the rest of their faction. Then later on when project purity happens they want control to become the wastelands saviors. That becomes how they could get more recruits. Obviously that didn’t work and then Adams Air Force bass happened and they’re supposedly gone. But I agree that they are still out there. I especially think the outposts at Chicago will have something to do with the return of the enclave in a future fallout game, perhaps even a game taking place in Chicago sometime in the near or not so near future
@TheOmegaInitiative Жыл бұрын
Yes but there's still no reason to be in D.C., Raven Rock isn't in D.C. it's quite far away. The Enclave could expand in any direction away from D.C. because it's a city and it's been completely destroyed. They could expand all throughout the rural areas that wouldn't have been bombed as much, and take over that area much faster.
@woddlyoatsАй бұрын
New Vegas suggests an enclave base in Chicago or near Chicago. I think that would be interesting especially if tactics is no longer canon
@ArroDime_3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I always wondered why the enclave had so many soldiers in fallout 3. I mean it’s not like they were engaging in cloning right? Wait. Enclave clone soldiers? Woah.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
It's not impossible, just highly improbable.
@Aussiest2 жыл бұрын
200,000 units are ready, with a million more well on the way
@RumGum3 Жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative I think it's more likely espically if we count the Fallout 4 Nuka World DLC because of the machine that cloned the Gatorclaws using DNA may have been shared with the US because of Project Cobalt. I still feel like it's unlikely but it may be worth remembering.
@alexshinra67222 ай бұрын
Not canon now but vualt 0 they where wiped out due to budget cuts. But its implaied a heavy amount of the top folk where there, but yeah there small hints there should be a vualt city for breeding.
@theDoctorwitTardis3 жыл бұрын
I love that even in the fictional post-apocalyptic sci-fi universe the tune is still *"Da government's lying to ya!"* Great video btw.
@stevenwebb34753 жыл бұрын
Always thought because we now know they recruit outsiders they were originally planning to recruit from DC and also recover the lost tech. Possible use GECKs to terraform the region. However for some reason they were delayed and the Brotherhood took one of the best locations to build a base.
@AgentStone52 жыл бұрын
do not let them know where we are hiding
@laurenf.79223 жыл бұрын
I would disagree, chances are they are spread out in small groups in places like Alaska or larger pockets in the less populated regions that is the center of our current nation, or a major underground facility that is used for situations like this. All I can say is that it is very likely that the enclave is gone. Their mission to DC was likely initially done to see if they could save info stored in the Pentagon as well as recover Important artifacts such as the painting of George Washington in the white house, see the damage and if they could actually rebuild the capital.
@J4Koro2 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF the enclave we know is it's the first and second research and development & recon and security wave of units that were tasks to monitor and secure objectives needed for the third and final wave of Enclave main force which was forgoten (waking up process sabotaged) waiting to be woke up from their cryogenic chambers in order to take the secured high value land (agricultural & industrial areas), to insure the massive Enclave high class and top brass could resettled with minimum risk of atrition.
@invaderjoshua62802 жыл бұрын
Irritating to me they weren’t in fallout 4. Fallout 4 needed more good factions, since the Minutemen and Railroad were more side factions. Basically you have a fully fleshed out Brotherhood of Steel, but a half finished Institute that clearly could have been so much more.
@isaiahwolftail8673 жыл бұрын
On FO76 im a secret enclave member. if you have an urban scout armour mask then your automatic enclave by right of this gift.
@hermantorres-saucedo27473 жыл бұрын
I just want to join the enclave for once I’m sick of the brotherhood of steel
@kerruo26313 жыл бұрын
What about the outcasts and Elder Maxon's division? I think they're pretty cool.
@redneckcowboy47313 жыл бұрын
The fallout 3 brotherhood of steel was cool, they actually wanted to help people. The fallout 4 brotherhood are a bunch of assholes who are like “ Give us crops or you will die” or like “ You have tech, it’s now ours”. Also I heard that Maxon’s brotherhood destroyed rivet city for parts.
@Doombringer_r3 жыл бұрын
@@redneckcowboy4731 Maxson's Brotherhood is how the BoS SHOULD be, that's how they acted in Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, BoS (lol) and New Vegas. The BOS were never the 'good guy' faction, there shouldn't BE a good guy faction.
@flamesofchaos133 жыл бұрын
@@Doombringer_r Correction: There should never be a flawlessly perfect boy scout "good guy" faction. However factions can be "good guys" can intend benevolence and seeking to rebuild or preserve instead of destroying everything...Just NOT perfect or without sacrifice. Problem with Bethesda is they can't get moral nuance right with the Brotherhood and Enclave...They cast them both as extremes. In Fallout 3 BOS Good and Enclave Bad...Despite the BOS soldiers actively shooting at civilians (Ghouls and Desparate Megaton Settlers), lying to superiors, a civil war between Xenophobic Hardliners and the Idealist yet Impractical Reformists occurring. While the HUMAN Enclave leader doesn't seek genocide only stability and control to build a prosperous nation-state. Then in Fallout 4 the BOS are now Bad because the Good Guys are the Minutemen and Railroad...Despite them being useless with a history of corruption and failure and helping Synths become Raiders/Mercs. While the Brotherhood is sticking with it's founding ideals it's always had with the sole exception of destroying the Institute which they should've occupied not nuked (So close but not quite there). Like they do understand neither of these factions are black and white both having pros and cons...But they don't allow the player to actually choose for themselves which is the lesser evil they always force it on us. Can't join one of them, Can't reform or influence either, Can't be neutral. Someone's gotta take the role of villian to destory and another hero to defend against injustice. Despite all logic dictating none of these factions are filled with heroes or villians just people...Perhaps flawed and stupid but not inherently malevolent deserving eradication (except certain members for each).
@Doombringer_r3 жыл бұрын
@@flamesofchaos13 tldr please
@probsnoodlee56302 ай бұрын
I really hope there’s a much larger force i feel like what we’ve seen in the games doesn’t seem realistic there’s no way they had that little amount of force while it wasn’t small I still feel like there should be a massive base out there somewhere i really hope so
@Drfuntimes-fd9pq3 жыл бұрын
What I will say as this from a military prospective where is his XO and his other officers why is their only him and other lieutenant he should have at least a Lt.Col or major as his XO and captains and lieutenant helping run this operation if it was the full force I believe this is probably a skeleton crew with decent amount security.
@ee-hp6qm2 жыл бұрын
Bethesda absolutely hates the enclave and wants nearly nothing to do with it.
@Writing.....2 жыл бұрын
The enclave Reside on the dark of the moon 🌙
@Bjorn3083 жыл бұрын
The lore basically confirms that the Enclave are done and dusted dude. They were given major defeats at the oil rig, Raven Rock and Adams AFB. By the time of Fallout 3 they don't tend to recruit from the outside thus they'll suffer from a lack of genetic diversity sooner rather than later. It's safe to assume that the remaining survivors either went their separate ways after the realization that they'll never accomplish the Enclave's main goals or just deciding to live out the rest of their lives together in peace somewhere remote where no potential hostile factions would even know what their power armor or emblem looked like. Seems the most logical choice for self-preservation in the long term. Unless we get a retcon, their basically gone now. Sad really, I liked them as antagonists more than generic Raider types or people trying to emulate what came before... plus their power armor was the coolest looking, LOL.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
The Enclave's best defence has always been there secrecy, by all accounts they should have been eradicated in Fallout 2, yet they weren't, they were going to return in Van Buren and eventually did return in Fallout 3 because they can, because that's what the organization does.
@arcanegamer2723 Жыл бұрын
you know i had a theory that after the oil rig the enclave has completely fractured that would explain why they would make terrible tactical decisions and why we dont see anymore of the organization in fallout 4 they ether have fallen dormant all together or have started a schism of some sort also maybe some of the sects have given up the genocidal missions of they might still view themselves as better than the averge wastelander but might not actually be planning on using a genocide virus or something.
@colonelautumn92232 жыл бұрын
Oh believe me we have hundreds of bases bigger than raven rock
@robertknight66762 жыл бұрын
God bless the Enclave and no one else
@EA_SP0RTCENTER2 жыл бұрын
This is kinda backed by the fact that autumn has a southern accent.
@thecommandant28312 жыл бұрын
If the Enclave from Fallout 3 was only sent to give the men a morale boost and to capture and control Raven Rock for the weapons that possibly means other divisions are capturing places such as Philidelphia. If the Enclave also send men out to capture military bases one way to gain a foothold in the American south is the base like Fort Bragg in North Carolina. If the Brotherhood didn't raid it already than it could still hold Verti birds and possibly a few intact armored vehicles. Personally, I don't think Autumn was the highest-ranking member of the entire Enclave's army. So this video actual shows the points I have made with others while playing this.
@BaconMinion Жыл бұрын
The Enclave are clearly just biding their time in Canada, building their forces up, both gear wise and body wise.
@Otterdisappointment2 жыл бұрын
The enclave lost comms and most of their bases to Chinese sabotage and the war and the enclave wanted the capital for legitimacy, Raven Rock, the pentagon and Liberty Prime. As far as anyone is concerned the enclave no longer exists.
@duplicarus3 жыл бұрын
All I want is a game I can really just fully immerse myself in the Enclave. I guess I can to an extent in 76 (and I am making an exclusively Enclave character), but I would like a single player fallout to join the ultimate Faction. And it just be a power trip like the brotherhood in FO4
@wizardgoblin132 жыл бұрын
With obsidian and Bethesda now being Microsoft property I hope we see a game with NV writing and fallout 4 production Like imagine your decisions actually matter like in NV and there is actually an endgame Maybe there we will place to an enclave we could be part of
@Thedukeofpugs2 жыл бұрын
I originally got intrested in the enclave cuz I thought x01 power armor looked cool now I cant get enough of this awsome faction!
@jacktomsky68122 жыл бұрын
Also Eddie from new Vegas gives vague himts
@burntbacn3 жыл бұрын
2 things I hope for in terms of new fallout games, is one set somewhere in Europe, showing how they've handled the war. As well as one where you actually play as a member of the Enclave, possibly trying to find any remnants after ending up alone.
@TheOmegaInitiative3 жыл бұрын
Just wait 5 years until Fallout London releases.
@burntbacn3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOmegaInitiative Is that a mod in development? I'll have to check it out. Wonder if nuclear war will actually make London better than it is now.
@redriddler12312 жыл бұрын
God Bless The Enclave
@NightSpark11569 Жыл бұрын
So, saying that colonel autumn was the highest ranking person is correct but also not correct because technically, the highest ranking person is the president in our chain of command.