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lol dude if you use them right they sharpen themselves and eventually get so thin they chip and break and need replaced ... says a lot that you think it is the other way round.

​@@kevint1910 if you are taking a new blunt edged shovel to attack a lot of roots you will save time by giving it an edge before you start digging. In general they should stay sharp with general use, but a quick look if you've been hitting rocks won't hurt. Roots are springy enough with a sharp edge.

@@joytotheworld9109 I spent 30+ years in construction roughly 25% of it involving ditching and shovels , never once was any of the things you mention an issue and as your foreman I would have fired you on the spot for wasting time and metal grinding an edge onto a digging implement of any kind...and not simply for the aforementioned time embezzlement but more for being that stupid in the first place.

For revenge?

Exactly, why on earth would you use the smaller shovel (sometimes called a 'master spade') to dig a wide trench if you don't need a wide trench? I used one to trench for electrical conduit. The building inspector said he had never seen such a narrow trench.

I used the trenching shovel in the video for 4” drain pipe. Worked like a charm.

@@professorg8383 The depth varied, the deepest section was about 24” below grade. I used an older type of narrow trenching shovel as well to loosen and break up the clay soil in the deeper sections and the type used in this video to clean the trench out

@@professorg8383 I dug a trench from the back of my house, around the five foot wide side yard, under the AC condenser pad, under a fence, past the gas meter, the water line and meter and fiber optic cable (which I accidentally cut), to within ten feet of the sidewalk in front of our house. I think it was 120 feet, with a one inch drop every four feet. Installed a four inch trench drain along the back patio and four inch pvc drain pipe from there to the sidewalk. S.E.Louisiana, hard rains used to flood the patio, it was brutal work but worth it!

In trench digging school they showed how this video is misguided because he is trying to dig a trench more than twice as wide as the common shovel. Northern clay is great for a trenching shovel because it's harder material than sand in florida Much more material to move. What is going in? Electrical conduit? Don't use a 4 inch trench shovel for a driveway culvert get a backhoe.😮 work smart not hard and don't ever try cutting your own hair gee whiz.

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I'm in down south Florida, I have no idea where this guy has this nice of dirt. My backyards dirt is just all roots and horrible to dig through.

Hallelujah, you wouldn’t believe the rock filled soil we have here in New England! And not small rocks only, big rocks too. But same digging principles as shown in the video apply. Thanks for posting.

You're a weather pattern? 😂😂😂

Only when I’m yelling or flatulent. Sometimes they coincide & really blow!

At the beginning of the video, it shows a mattock among the tools. But apparently he never had to use it. Where I am, the mattock comes out whenever the shovel does.....

"The point is to dig a 5" wide trench so that you move significantly less dirt"

Ummm no, move less dirt is less work overall 100%. Narrow trench is less work to dig and less disruption to customers gardens and landscaping. A drain spade has a much longer blade (and much less "lift" angle) than the shovel he's using and you go straight down 18" plus and break out the dirt with every bite. I also use an sds max drill with clay spade or chipping bit to bust up rocks/concrete flush with the edges of my trench and remove the rubble instead of digging out entire stones which the power trencher can't really deal with. Where I'm usually trenching you're either hand digging or getting a mini-ex don't see many trenchers here in my part of the world for good reason. I agree the trenching shovel he's using is only good for cleaning out after a mechanical trencher but if you look up drain spade you'll see what I'm talking about, once you get the hole to your depth you just keep taking 3-4" bites out of the dirt moving backwards and each bite is the full depth of a typical electrical trench. You're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want about the subterranean arts, I've dug plenty of trenches in poor conditions. I've dug ground plates in the middle of Canadian winter going down through frozen dirt so I will respectfully disagree with you based on the weight of ample personal experience.

This is actually why I don’t regret the 60’ trench I did today with a 4” trench shovel. Easy on the back and not fatiguing. This applies elsewhere too: get 50 lb bags of concrete instead of 80. I’m strong but why stress anything?

God I get them holes build your character. Maybe you'll find a suitcase

I’d be happy to

@@appledrains 😅

Interesting

Thanks Stacy This a great DIY project

How did your crawl space come out?

I have not had to learn that trick yet...in snow! Stay warm up there.

So you’re the guy that bury the cable 1/2 inch deep making all contractors cut the cable???????????

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Nice work 👍

Thanks for sharing

No thank you. Seriously. I love your approach sir. And we have learned so much from your content. Our family thanks you. 😊

You can do it!!

@@appledrains I did it, it was brutal but finished up yesterday. Drains r in and work great. Big storm coming today for real world test. Love the vids you put out. Upbeat, and great knowledge sharing. You inspire and help us DIYers, thank you!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts