I believe Tamla was in fact murdered. I appreciate your opinion, but in 2019 my son was clearly murdered in Forsyth County Georgia. His place was ransacked. He had more injuries than I could count. His throat had been cut by what looked like barbed wire. He had multiple stab wounds and abrasions. The Forsyth County Police ( the same group that was at Tamla Horsford's death scene was at my son Kenny Brown's, including the same county Coroner Keith M Bowen) When I requested an autopsy I was told no, that I was welcome to have an autopsy done on my own if I could afford one but I would also have to be able to hire someone to transport his body because they were not going to do it. And when I kept going back to the sheriff's office I was told the case was closed and it would not be reopened. I was also told that my son associated himself with a few bad people and when you do that bad things can happen to you. Then they labeled my son's murder a suicide, and lied on the police reports. So yes I can easily see how this could have been a murder and not a tragic accident. I believe in both cases they were murdered.

I live in Georgia near where this happened and the city that this happened in is very much a sundown town. I don't even feel comfortable driving there at night in fear that my car may break down or I will be stopped. The distrust is warranted for this area. I just wish those who moved to GA would do more research on the areas they move to

Why didn’t ANYONE on scene call her husband immediately after her body was discovered??? I wish she had called her husband to pick her up when she was ready to go home. So many questions. So sad.

You should research the independent autopsy. She had a dislocated spine and wrist. They also only took 5 pictures of her deceased body. And didn’t analyze the cellphones of the party goers until 2 years later, after two people changed phones and others deleted the photos that were taken that day. She also didn’t have dirt under her fingernails. “If” she fell she would have dirt under her nails as a defense wound. There’s so much more I can say. This was clearly a murder and a cover up

This breaks my heart. If I was ever that drunk, my friends would put me to bed and made sure I stayed there or given me a ride home and made sure I got in bed, either way. I would do the same for them. These people weren't her friends. This is why I don't drink in front of people I don't know or trust. I still have a feeling there is more to the story.

The person accessing her case, is most suspicious. I'm not buying the accident theory.

The 911 call by the homeowner and her "parole officer boyfriend "....the one that got fired for accessing her incident report, was very , very sketchy. They were immediately spinning a yarn of what "probably happened". It literally took 5 minutes into the call before they finally mentioned the dead woman in their yard. I'm really disappointed you didn't discuss that. You could have done an entire episode on the call alone.

I was told by a person that was born and raised in GA that they can tell the person is not from GA base on their decision to live in certain areas as a Blk person!

There is sooo much more to the case that you have skipped over.

I wonder why none of the women leaving gave Tamla a ride home. Being a stay at home mom is not an easy thing, let alone to 5 kids. Every day is the similar, there’s no breaks, no socializing with adults, and you have no money of your own. Tamla was probably excited and ready to let loose this night when she had no responsibilities. It’s horrible that it ended up like this. Idk what happened but it’s all very suspect. Regardless, my heart breaks for her family and her children.

Dr. Grande, I usually love your content, but it seems you missed several key points here. Her husband has an interview here on KZfaq that I implore you to watch. There, he talks about the injuries that weren't reported in mass media. I also ask you to go back and listen to the 911 call. Please give this case another chance. I respect you and your work, I just wish you'd analyze this case again with ALL of the evidence.

In 35 years as emergency physician I have seen people falling from 45 ft. being almost uninjured and others from 6 ft.being dead. To break ones neck a force of 40 kg (100 Lb) is necessary. That is clearly possible in deceleration trauma falling straight down on your head from a level of 15ft above ground..

According to her Husband,She had misgivings about attending this Adult Sleep over. It all sounds very off. Wish She had listened to her gut feeling and stayed with her family . The FBI needs to look into this and I really hope the Home Owner is Sued. Her live in Boyfriend needs to be looked into. Never in my life have I ever heard of an adult sleeper. Too many questions.

Tamla’s husband said that when her body was released for her funeral, someone had covered her face in shoe polish. Which is horrific.

So the consensus seems to be that she fell off the balcony or deck, but the back door was left open all night. None of this is making sense because they did something to her. “It was the alcohol” is too easy. And why did she request to leave? She brought a bag to stay, so what spooked her? Why didn’t they help her or drive her home safely since she requested to leave?!! She was made part of that bizarre game that they were playing and someone harmed her. She also barely knew those people. Such a shame. Cautionary tail.

Doc, you REALLY should have analized the 911 call. It's extremely suspicious. This would have changed your conclusions IMO.

DOC YOU MISSED THE CLEAR AND OBVIOUS SIGNS WITH THIS CASE… borderline gross negligence.

ALOT of facts were never mentioned in this video. One that always has made me wonder, why the garage door was opened several times into the early morning hours…this was no accident. I believe Mr Barrera knows exactly what happened…..

His final take on this doesn’t account for the “strange” details surrounding the investigation of her death. Race aside, it’s a VERY strange case indeed. Had she landed on concrete, ide think different. But the investigation, it’s just all kinda (TOO WIERD TO BE TRUE??)

My brother fell out of a second story window and only ended up with a few bruises and a sprained ankle. All the injuries don't click with me.

The homeowner actually sued Tamla’s best friend because she kept accusing them of murder. What does the homeowner expect? Her boyfriend was fired for accessing confidential files on the Tamla case even though HE WAS A WITNESS AND FOUND HER BODY AND CALLED 911. The girlfriend and homeowner was the woman that Tamla was hugging in that living room picture (if you look at the pic it’s the girl to the left of Tamla). Also not to mention that the homeowner also tried to give out freaking gift cards to the police as an attempt to bribe them.

What about the bruises all over her body, her broken neck, and ruptured aorta.. falling about 12ft does not equate all those injuries. It's like jumping off the roof of your home or from your garage. 😫🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

Not sure you mentioned the potential of her being given a spiked drink even just a glass of water with the Xanax.. mixed with alcohol that can be very debilitating and I believe even potentially fatal depending on the amount of each item. If she was incapacitated by a drug she never intended to use they could have been able to easily overpower her with no injuries to themselves. The police really messed up by not collecting evidence such as drinking glasses and checking medicine cabinets and purses and all of that. If a crime had been committed, gathering evidence that night would have been crucial.

And she didn't have a history of alcohol and drug abuse 😯...so it's very odd for her to have all of that in her system

Are we going to ignore the elephant in the room 👀 the possibility that the “friends” maybe murdered her and staged the fall.. the whole case and people involved was just weird and suspicious. I don’t believe anything about her fall was a accident.

Here’s what happened: Tamla never went upstairs She smoked her cigarette outside while the other guests left after her bowl of gumbo (one last cigarette) Once the guests left barrera approached her and made advances at her. (Door left open, known as a swinger) Once denied he sexually abused her (no sex kit, no fingernail dna taken, defensive abrasions on her arms and legs) He also most likely dragged her to where he took advantage of her (no one heard anything, Tamla did have a good friend at the party, also scratches and abrasions) He the choked her and struck her with something to finish her off (blunt force trauma to the head, broken neck) Barrera made a few mistakes: He laid out what may have happened to her on the 911 call (common when covering up a story) He said he took the cigarette and lighter from the balcony (she didn’t make it upstairs) why would he touch that He moved her arm “to check her” (covers up the fact that his prints or dna may be on her) He moved her arm into a common Hollywood “look I just fell position” which is not how people land when falling Why: guilty conscious - Barrera accessed the reports which is common for people worried about something coming back to bite them in the future. Why: too much of the evidence was concealed in the beginning, which is common during a cover up Why: let’s say horsford was 5’5” that would give her 1’5” clearance over the balcony - I want you to go to your car open the window and try to fall in. It is simply not possible with a 4’ balcony wall - there was no damage to the balcony and no evidence that she was ever up there. Why: the responding officer was sending message pertaining to the case to girls he was trying to impress. He knows this is a racist town. It was almost as if he was saying look at this, look what I did. He saw it as a trophy Ultimately I think this was a crime of passion and one of a mans ego getting checked and him responding with violence

Thank you Dr. Grande for talking about the trouble that alcohol consumption can cause. Everyone is concerned with opioid overdoses but alcohol consumption has been hurting and destroying lives too.

Being stumbling drunk and walking alone causes a lot of cuts, scrapes, and bruises

They killed that woman. Blame it on the alcohol is just a convenient excuse . Black folks need to exercise extreme caution always especially when you are the only black person in the group . Very sad those boys dont have a mother and will never know who killed their parent. They will know why she was murdered.

Sad. I like the idea of a slumber party for grown up women with the possibility of staying overnight, everything seemed to be planned so well, excellent idea, is it going any safer? And then t h i s happens?? 😧 Sometimes this world makes me speechless. 🥀

Why did 2 husbands decide to stay at all womens sleepover?🤔

People jump into swimming pools not realising that they are maybe five feet or so deep and snap their necks,fifteen foot is a big height to fall

People really need to understand that alcohol is a drug. From the woman who gives the "Let me explain" apology to the guy who hits his wife...stop taking drugs and expecting them to not affect your cognition. Ffs. Alcohol changes your brain function. Just because it's liquid does not make it harmless.

Three times the legal limit drunk, high off weed, and a Xanax and still able to stand up? Geesh.

On the topic of alcohol, you're preaching to the choir, Dr. Grande. I am married to an alcoholic. The trail of fire he has left behind him in his life would be unbelievable, and possibly worthy of your show. My husband is currently sitting in a prison 7 states away, because of it. I hate alcohol. It's the worst drug ever to be invented, and it's legally sold on every street corner. It creates hell on earth.

Agree - alcohol is poison. Research it and get the truth, not glamorous tv ads!

Had a cousin who fell off a ladder cleaning his gutters and died. He wasn't even 10 feet up. Shit happens. Life lesson don't get stupid drunk and don't allow people to get drunk at your house because you're legally liable for them.

Who doesn’t go try to help their friend when they see them laying there! First thing I’d do is run down there and see if she was okay, breathing, pulse, and do compressions and mouth to mouth and tell someone else to call for help! Did they not even try to help her? They could have saved her life if she really did fall. That’s the craziest part of the story!

Bringing awareness to this case, Doctor.

Trying to be funny, the Doc missed the mark on this one. This was biased and lacked full spectrum analysis. He overlooked key facts pointing to foul play, shoddy police investigation ,and substandard autopsy work that should have been discussed . Unless someone comes forward this case will remain a mystery.

I hate that there are ppl dumb enough to think this was an accident. No one has ever died from falling 14 feet onto grass! 🤦

Dr. Grande you be preaching on law enforcement! They brought the distrust on themselves. Just calling it like it is

This video made me reconsider how much I like to go to bar and have fun with friends. Doctor Grande's opinion about alcohol is very strong but I'm sure he has seen planty of things in his practice that drive him on that conclusion.

A girl I grew up with fell 10 feet from a balcony at a party, with her friend. They both were extremely drunk and horseplaying around. My friend broke her neck, and her arm and died. The other girl just had a few bumps and bruises. Something similar could have happened here with her like what happened to my friend.

For the life of me, I can't envision a 14 foot fall that breaks your neck, lacerates a heart valve, dislocates a wrist, scratches and bruises arms and legs, and slices a wrist.

The BEST drinking game (imho) is Cards Against Humanity. But damn! This poor lady...what a horrific end to her fun (seemingly) evening. Thanks for your always informative analysis, Dr Grande!

The back door was left open all night, the boyfriend was illegally looking into her case, and it’s a sundown town. THIS WAS NO FREAKING ACCIDENT

Just an observation, but I have noticed a trend in your video analysis when it comes to racial topics. Your analysis typically minimizes and/or largely falls on the side of folks who think race is overblown. Very interesting. Anyway, working in forensics, I can objectively say the injuries authorities reported on are clearly not consistent with a 20 foot fall. Not by a long shot. Strong disagree with your conclusion here.

As a blk person I feel (feelings don't matter but anyway tho) a kind of sadness that whenever a blk person gets mentioned or gets attention it's mostly about our race with racism. Only focusing on one tiny aspect so much, when the real focus should be incompetent/sloppy/lazy/non-passionful work in general. From watching many of these recent (recent like last 25yrs or so) true crime cases the common thread seems to be inadequate investigative work. At least that's what the family, friends, commentators, keyboard warriors and amateur sleuths think. idk I'm surprised the Dr., on this one, seems to be feeding into things. Maybe or maybe not.

Crappy police work once again causes a case to forever be shrouded in conspiracies. I hope if there was foul play that someone spills the beans. Poor lady. She just wanted friends and to fit in.

“The perpetrator was alcohol.” Thanks for the honesty.

She had too many lacerations, bruises and blunt force trauma for a accident from that height .

I vaguely recall pictures of the lot and the deck. The lot was sloped. Most likely, when Tamla hit the ground, she rolled a bit. Which explains the "mystery" abrasions.

The same GBI that barely got anything done with the Tara Grinstead case until a podcast basically broke the case open for them

Thank you SO MUCH for covering this. This case is bizarre to me. It really could have been an accident but the surrounding circumstances are so strange that it’s suspicious. My heart goes out to her family.

The problem with excessive alcohol use is that it takes people far from their core being, or who they are. I know that sometimes that is the point of drinking, but people with this in mind think they can do this while still being "in control." It often doesn't work that way. I speak from my own experience. I believe she fell off the deck on her own. It's sad that a beautiful person like her died this way. I quit drinking in March, attend AA zoom meetings, got a sponsor, and don't want to go back to that world, that horrible abyss, of drinking alcohol. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for yet another informed and well-balanced video.

I had a friend fall off a 9th floor balcony and he lived. He broke bones and had internal bleeding and stuff but he seemed to have a lot less injuries. I wonder if she was trying to jump over but then caught her foot or ankle on the balcony and flipped over and landed on her head or face with some momentum. Still, it was just grass.... I agree, they should have investigated this properly from the start. It could be possible that the only one that did a crime was the cop. Ironic

40 yr olds at a slumber party, full bottle of tequila, weed, cigs, xanax....RX for possibility of bad things. Thanks Dr G😊💙💙

I strongly believe that there was foul play. Her friend who is white, stated the same thing, and said that when she'd expressed that. She was threatened. And then there is the cop who got fired for illegally getting access to the files. I think that the party dynamic changed once the men came into the picture. Two possibilities. She'd got comfortable and something was said from that particular cop, possibly a racist joke, she'd didn't like it and they had words back and forth that got heated and that lead to a fight where he beat her to death. Or. He'd tried to sexually come on to her, she resisted and ended up killing her. This reeks of a cover up.

I'm on my way to the liquor store dr. Grande how was this supposed to help me feel better? Growl

I was 100% sober and fell down the stairs and hit the back of my head so hard, thought I was gonna die. I can just about imagine what the outcome would’ve been if I was super drunk. Especially, since I was home alone. 😳

The real problem here was the fact that she mixed Xanax with all that alcohol. If you've ever been around anyone that uses both substances regularly, you would know that Xanax makes the negative effects of alcohol twice as bad so if she had drank enough alcohol to lose coordination, the Xanax could have doubled the impact of that

Everything about this is case is so shady. I hope her family gets justice for her.

Dr. G, your analysis on the mass serial killer - alcohol - is spot on. 🥃💀

As a teen a good friend in my crew was in his dad’s wedding. He was obviously full of mixed emotions as he pounded slow gin fizz’s non stop all afternoon. We ended up taking him home and took turns watching him sleep as a few of our rock heroes had choked on their own vomit. We don’t hang out very often anymore but there were numerous times we looked out for each other. It would’ve been better had we slowed down but we were able to keep watch on each other .

For the people who don't understand her injuries, a fall of 15-20 feet can create severe injuries that can result in death. Some of the minor injuries to her hands could have been as a result of her scrambling to catch herself as she lost her balance.

What the hell kinda party was this??!

As someone who has lost their entire immediate family (father, mother, and sister) to the ravages of alcoholism either directly or indirectly, I really appreciate how you point out how alcohol can truly be the villain in a tragic or deadly situation, yet people would rather place blame on far more unlikely causes and conspiracy theories rather than believing that alcohol is to blame. I detest the way our society romanticizes alcohol and makes it seem like one just HAS to drink to deal with almost ANY situation (I.e. “wine mom” shirts 🙄🤬). Thanks for another great video and keep up the good work!

Hi Dr. Grande! Have a great beginning of the week! ❤️

Great video. Appreciate your parting words about ETOH. As someone who drank WAY too much in my youth, I look back at my many bad decisions while under it’s influence and wish I’d gotten help sooner to examine the reasons I was abusing it. 😜😒 Fast forward to older me: It truly does help me stay on a non-drinking path when I hear you condemn alcohol and it’s effects rather than shaming the person that over-imbibes. Thank you 💕💖💕👍🏼

You right about the alcohol.. But I totally disagree with you this lady was murdered.. Maybe your video should have been more about if she wasn't drinking alcohol she probably wouldn't have a good chance to Survive from the people that killed her..

You blame the alcohol for alot but it was because she was drinking tequila on Xanax. The Xanax component is was huge in the scenario that led to her demise. Especially because she wasn’t prescribed and there for you could argue she had low tolerance to benzodiazepines.

I wonder if because of her injuries and the lack of injuries on anyone else at the party if maybe someone walking by or from the neighborhood tried to get at her or something. Idk this case is so senseless and I wish we had answers! Her poor loved ones 😔

Thank you for your remarks on the danger of alcohol. All true. Somehow, because it's socially acceptable, people don't realize it's destructiveness physically.

Y’all keep saying she was super drunk and the alcohol was to blame and her husband made it very clear that they were from the islands where you start drinking at an early age, alcohol is apart of the culture. He further stated that she could easily take back a half a bottle of tequila and be fine. He also said she could have driven home and gotten there safely because they can hold their liquor. This wasn’t anything new to her. Everyone kept saying she was fine the whole night; no one said anything about her being sloppy drunk or all over the place because that wasn’t her. She bought a bottle of Mexican Tequila; this lady was not sloppy drunk. How did she have xanax in her system but no one knows how she got it even though it was one women who walked around with it around her neck passing them out like candy. Excuses to cover up foul play.

You can break your neck falling from 0 feet. People have tripped and broken their necks. I don't know why all these people in the comments are finding that hard to believe.

Words of wisdom from the doc: Dinosaurs and alcohol are not something one should interact with✅😂Agreed Dr Grande. . . agreed. 😆Thank you for your analysis! ❤❤❤

the 911 call makes me think it was not an accident.

Another thing with the murder theory is that the interviews conducted with one of the women (I think the girlfriend of the cop) was really suspect and weird. They did it at her house, she answers were all over the place, not consistent. So thats why I think there was some foul play of some sort, but Im not beyond believing she could have fallen off the deck.

She was beaten. One, or both of the men offed her, bu no one will be charged. They will all stay on code. She was there for their amusement. She was nothing to them, an outsider. The aunt described her as "your friend from the Islands." Their word is the only 'truth.' Very few are questioning them. Poor Tamla. Her desperation for friends over rode any alarm bells .

Tequila and Zanax?! 😮 This pent-up housewife was REALLY trying to let her hair down! That Jurassic Park analogy demonstrates just how much Doc Grande loves that movie; the single most unrelated tie-in I've ever witnessed! 😂

Of course you ruled it an accident. Smh.

Doc I think this is the first time I disagree with you. This woman was kill by someone. They did a real bad investigation.

Maybe the boyfriend, being a 'brother in blue' was given a pass. He probably had access to the alarm system, Xanax, and could have spiked her drink at some point hoping to get her alone later, but she fought back. He then threw her over the railing. It doesn't say what sort of neck injuries she had, but landing wrong after a trip can easily break a neck or cause brain injuries. His interest in the case is another red flag.

I believe someone at that party or multiple people assaulted her resulting in her death not alcohol. Alcohol makes it easier for someone to assault you because you are impaired. They are sticking to their story but I am willing to bet time will tell and someone with a guilty conscience is eventually going to spill the beans.

I remember this case very well. That woman was beat up at the sleep over and it was never investigated properly. It sounds like lots of excuses are being made here.

Thank God I am giving up drinking, it has been two months of no alcohol. I always felt dizzy and nausea after 2 glasses of wine of one beer! I shall stick to green Tea and alcohol free Heineken🤩🤩. RIP TAMLA. Sending love to her boys!

Sloppy police work!!!!

Ooooh snap! You find all the good ones Dr. Grande! Thanks for covering this case. I don’t think it got nearly the amount of attention it deserved. Her “friends” were sketch af 😑

This is a sad case. 5 kids lost a mom. Great video Dr Grande!!!

This proves that even Doctors are not smart.

But the last person to see her Alive said she was eating a bowl of gumbo and planned to smoke a cigarette afterwards then head to bed. Let’s say she accidentally fell over, how do you explain the scratches on her? The people at the party said she seemed fine at the party, not drunk and out of control. The guy who talked to the dispatcher already had a conclusion that she was drunk and must’ve fell over. He was also the same guy who got fired for accessing files to the case.. Idk what happened, but I think some people at that party do know what happened!

I stopped drinking, one of the best things I ever did. I had the perfect excuse to avoid all kinds of bad companies, saved money, my stomach felt better and more.

What a weird flex at the end. Laying blame on the party host for drinking at her party and then claiming that most people shouldn't interact with alcohol. Strange

Okay, fine, doc! I'll quit my dinosaur habit!

This was not an accident!!! The 911 call, the door alarms print out none of it adds up.

I really cannot understand why people want to get "slaughtered" by alcohol. Who the devil drinks an entire bottle of tequila? Surely people can have a great night, getting a bit merry without getting drop-dead drunk. Our A&E's are jammed every weekend with drunks, puking and collapsing and needing attention due to fights. What a shame for this woman and her family. If only she had drunk less . Perhaps she passed out before she fell so was unable to grab on to anything.

You left out that they didn't report her body until a couple hours after they found it...

How come they let the other woman go home but stopped the victim from going home when she expressed her desire to leave the party? Or were they planning to do something to her? Why did the victim feel like not attending the party? She told her husband she didn't feel like going. Who was the last person to see the victim? Why did everyone have a sleeping partner but not the victim? Why did they lie to the victim that it was an all-girls sleepover? When there were man at the party? Maybe she would of invite her husband, if she knew there was man attending the party. Why did that woman leave her phone down stairs next to the victims phone? It makes no sense of their ”phones sleeping together”? If she was so concerned why didn't she invite the victims to sleep with them upstairs? Was she using her phone for something else? The husband said his wife could handle her drink so why did she seem to drunk? Did someone maybe spike her drink? So many questions not answered. This case is very suspicious!

Did he ever got over why the never refer to her by her name.”you’re friend from the islands”. “This funeral” that, them, etc.