FATALLY FLAWED 😬 Wilbon has NO solution for Phoenix's roster + Lakers' HC search | NBA Today
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Күн бұрынAdrian Wojnarowski, Michael Wilbon and Kendrick Perkins join Malika Andrews on NBA Today to discuss where Kevin Durant and the Phoenix Suns go from here after the firing of Frank Vogel before speaking on the Los Angeles Lakers' head coaching search.
0:00 Suns fire Frank Vogel, eye Mike Budenholzer
3:26 Perk: KD lacks leadership
6:52 Lakers' coaching search
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@instantlife 12 күн бұрын
Imagine working one year for a five year salary, and $31 million at that. Not a bad gig.
@undisputedtruth4954 12 күн бұрын
No post presence, no point guard, no coach, and Beal was a horrific trade when you could've signed numerous players who'd actually contribute.
@johnathanguimaraes327 12 күн бұрын
they werent patient and just let chris paul contract expire
@donovanwalkerjr 12 күн бұрын
@@johnathanguimaraes327Chris Paul NBA career is expired…
@rla8713 12 күн бұрын
Beal is horrible
@ivanperez6266 12 күн бұрын
Knows basketball. need to trade Beal and get an elite point guard. Idk if Beal has that value tied to his name tho.
@jimmyconway6080 11 күн бұрын
Devin Booker has the highest trade value on the team and since no one is taking Beal off their hands Booker is the obvious piece that needs to be moved.
@blackmistajack4701 12 күн бұрын
Why Wilbon didn't give the Suns the same energy he had about the Lakers with the Suns no accountability there I see.
@ike.o6944 12 күн бұрын
Facts💯
@edgewoodaldridge 12 күн бұрын
We all know why lol
@phatch5444 10 күн бұрын
Wilson is a clown, and certified Lebron hater.
@lovenotes6493 12 күн бұрын
Wilson is CLEARLY showing his love and allegiance for MJ, he’s been trashing the Lakers all year to tear down Bron, but Durant is now on his 7th coach in 6 seasons and he says nothing. Media is sad with their agendas
@user-uv9oy1qp5m 11 күн бұрын
No one says Kd is the goat
@Valorant_Dem0n97 12 күн бұрын
How are you suppose to improve as a team when you're constantly changing rosters and coaches?
@I.am_Groot 12 күн бұрын
The new owner thinks he is gonna cheat code his way by having big names without an actual bench
@SacramentoAthletics1989 12 күн бұрын
I know this sounds Cray Cray but they were better off running it back with CP3 and Ayton. This ain't a good look for the suns regardless.
@retrosoul8770 12 күн бұрын
Doesnt sound crazy to me, I loved the team before with Mikal Bridges, Cameron Payne, Cam Johnson, solid squad etc. this super team nonsense aint it.
@khojomorrison5493 12 күн бұрын
That team was way better than this
@retrosoul8770 12 күн бұрын
@@khojomorrison5493 yep, wayy better. More complete.
@jyanharris7957 12 күн бұрын
The one coach that would fix these laps in defense and attention to detail is Mark Jackson but NO body wants to hire him!! Crazy! He also would be a better coach for Milwaukee!
@retrosoul8770 12 күн бұрын
@@jyanharris7957 why doesn't anyone want to hire him ?
@str8duval 12 күн бұрын
Why doesn't Mike wilbon have the same energy for the Suns players as he did for the Lakers for their coach getting fired?? Then he says the Suns don't have the talent, but that's exactly what the Lakers problem is also
@CRIMSONROULETTE 12 күн бұрын
Exactly
@focuz4899 12 күн бұрын
He's a biased clown man.
@vulcanraven9701 12 күн бұрын
no the lakers do have the talent. imagine having lebron and Anthony davis on same team and needing more help. lolol
@bakedape5867 12 күн бұрын
@@vulcanraven9701imagine having kevin durant, devin booker and bradley beal and complaining about talent
@focuz4899 12 күн бұрын
@@vulcanraven9701 Imagine having KD, Book, and Beal and needing more help. That's 3 top scorers.
@josiahmitchell8594 12 күн бұрын
A big 3 can work if one is a leader, and one of them has to run the offense, someone to score, someone to defend, or at least score differently then the other scorer. Suns got 3 of the same players with no floor general and no leader and no defensive presence.
@I.am_Groot 12 күн бұрын
Pretty much this is an ownership issue you can't just pluck max contract guys and say 'go win me something'
@damiantreat7929 12 күн бұрын
Someone also has to be able to downplay their role and still be effective. It cant be 3 guys all trying to go out and lead the team in scoring every game. Getting 3 isolation scorers who are most effective when theyre the centerpiece of the offense was moronic.
@goodymob9638 12 күн бұрын
Phoenix traded away so many assets, they don't have much to work with. This wasn't the coach's fault, this is strictly on the owner. I would not take that job, you'll be set up for failure.
@deronr7560 12 күн бұрын
For 50 million you would take that job
@goodymob9638 12 күн бұрын
@@deronr7560 I actually live by "all money ain't good money", why would I want the embarrassment of dealing with that dysfunctional organization. The owner thinks he knows better than the people he has under him.
@AdamMS1384 12 күн бұрын
Bucks are dealing with the same issue in the East. Their assets are completely gone, and the roster is aging. Fortunately, they got a title in 21 but yeah I’ve noticed the parallels with the Suns and Bucks.
@goodymob9638 12 күн бұрын
@@AdamMS1384 Yep, but Giannas put the pressure on ownership and management to make this bad moves. And he's been hurt the last 2 playoffs, it's the crazy part.
@jakereinhardt7312 12 күн бұрын
JJ Redick coaching LeBron would be absolutely hilarious
@user-rn9co7jc4t 12 күн бұрын
If I’m Budenholzer, I’m taking advantage of Ishbia’s desperation and his pockets and making sure that retrenchment package is airtight and overflowing with dollars 💰💰💰💰
@flex2timez 12 күн бұрын
He really should’ve waited for a better job to open up. The sun roster is terrible and they can’t make many moves
@bighawaii 12 күн бұрын
Player payroll and staff payroll are too different things.
@QRobNYC 12 күн бұрын
If I’m Budenholzer I’m staying far away from this job. It’s a setup and if he doesn’t get to a Western conference finals at the minimum he’ll be gone just like Monty Williams and Vogel. If I’m Budenholzer I’ll try and wait for the Celtics job. If Mazzulla doesn’t win it all with this team he could be gone as well.
@leetraviusmckay314 12 күн бұрын
Stephen A "Bradley Beal ended up looking like a Washington Wizard" 😂
@goodymob9638 12 күн бұрын
If you look at Beals numbers when available, he has great numbers. He's not a PG, he's better off ball.
@jvtopflight796 12 күн бұрын
@@goodymob9638saw him in the playoffs.. You got to be joking
@goodymob9638 12 күн бұрын
@@jvtopflight796 Go look at his numbers though, I can gaf What you thought you saw. He averaged 18-4-5, 51% fg, only 22% usage, and 44% in 3s.... you're a casual bruh.
@nikeguy2 12 күн бұрын
@@goodymob9638”go look at his numbers” Go look at the games, that dude sucks. He was a great player on a bad team, on a good team…. He’s slightly above average when available.
@cfill4982 12 күн бұрын
😂😂 another classic
@focuz4899 12 күн бұрын
Mike Wilbon was on Lebron and AD's head but he's giving KD and Book an all access pass. He's a clown.
@vulcanraven9701 12 күн бұрын
Because lebron and AD are both first ballot hall of famers. Nooker isnt. also KD isnt much w.o steph
@KingKofi01 12 күн бұрын
A lot of that had to do with the GOAT conversation. Wilbon and SAS feel like they have to protect MJ's legacy as if fans don't already know how great MJ was.
@darylmartin8436 12 күн бұрын
@Kingfish-You hit the nail on the head. That's all Wilson's rant was all about. Trying to protect MJ goat debate
@derek4101 12 күн бұрын
Your clueless if you can’t see that this situation is different than what’s going on in LA.
@kl2389 12 күн бұрын
@@vulcanraven9701 KD isn't much? He's a first ballot hall of famer before he arrived in Golden State.
@T.A.K49 12 күн бұрын
Each team needs a leader & locker room energy guy. They got neither.
@Warriors49ers 12 күн бұрын
Perk throwing shade at KD's professionalism lmao
@jordynsmith24 12 күн бұрын
Perk still mad about that day KD blasted him on twitter with the womping 5 points a game.
@vin8754 12 күн бұрын
@@jordynsmith24 hes still right though even if he was a bad player. This is KDs second failed superteam
@KMM5821 12 күн бұрын
@@vin8754it's not a super team
@DonjayX 12 күн бұрын
Woban super salty on behalf of his friend Ham. They shouldn’t let him contribute on these Lakers coach discussions because of that connection. Clearly not neutral
@desordenpublico 12 күн бұрын
They constructed a horrible roster and then needed a scapegoat in case it failed….enter Frank Vogel
@user-mz6tj8po5v 12 күн бұрын
Sometimes too much talent doesn't work it's all about chemistry.
@SmoochChess 12 күн бұрын
6 yrs 6 coaches... Lol
@andrewkang2697 12 күн бұрын
I honestly don't understand why they had to blow up the Suns team after they got beaten by the Mavs two years ago. They were the number 1 team in the Western Conference, had a ton of depth, and more options for the future. Now they have two aging stars, no draft picks, and no depth.
@I.am_Groot 12 күн бұрын
Facts. Pairing KD and Booker nice move. Gutting the asset chest and hinging their winning on Beal... Not so much
@bye692001 12 күн бұрын
Coach Bud and Vogel have similar résumé, both have 1 ring, coach of the year with Bucks and Pacers respectively. So what can Bud do with the Suns, my guess is Suns will fail next season as well.
@Bearedd 12 күн бұрын
Exactly. Surely one of the “big 3” will complain about something in the season and once again the coach will be the scapegoat because of it. Smh.
@s7654r 12 күн бұрын
Superteams are in trouble. Great for the NBA.
@ChiTownMade 12 күн бұрын
The suns need to trade nurkic and get great role players. They should also trade Beal to get ethier a different 3rd star or great role players to build a better team around booker and KD. Get them an actual point guard to lead and facilitate. They should also start Bol Bol at the power forward or center.
@aboogeytheboss5043 12 күн бұрын
WHY CANT THE MAVS GET A SEGMENT ALL THIS CANT WAIT TILL AFTER THE PLAYOFFS ‼️
@Bigal_Nowitzki 12 күн бұрын
MFFL
@h.j.victory6103 12 күн бұрын
Should have kept CP3
@angelatanurdzic7508 12 күн бұрын
Great show.
@Megaledon77 12 күн бұрын
Coach bud should have never left the bucks. Giannis and dame should really consider bringing him back. Enough with the Doc Rivers nonsense.
@knell7900 12 күн бұрын
Wilbon getting the hate bron check. He didn’t use championship coach frank against kd after one year but agree to rookie coaches constantly. Who have the better roster Kd suns or lakers ??
@matthewdigiacomo2580 10 күн бұрын
They are both crap, and it is the fault of their two biggest stars. The Lakers roster is as it is because they went and got rid of guys LeBron didn't like and brough in guys he wanted. The Suns got rid of some players KD did not want to play with and brought in Beal because he wanted to play with him. That left both teams with very little help in the supporting cast. That is on the two stars and the GMs who bent over backwards for them ... not the coaches (though I really don't think Ham waould have been much better with a better roster).
@blackmason4373 12 күн бұрын
Why do they keep referring to Perkins
@BucketMaster96 12 күн бұрын
Thumbnail pic of Kevin hair line is mad disrespectful lol
@collider12 12 күн бұрын
COACH BUD LMAO cmon
@glend5990 12 күн бұрын
There are 30 teams in the NBA every team can't be on top.. The Suns are done unless they trade Booker
@lawrenceterrell8471 12 күн бұрын
The worst trade the sun's made was getting Beal and the massive trade they made for KD, they haven't yet recovered and this looks like it can be a very long rebuild in Phoenix, KD production isn't what it use to be and Booker production was slacking and factor in Beal stayed injured. The GM gotta figure out this roster fast and quick
@davidcooper5774 12 күн бұрын
The coach matters but this isnt the issue. There's no player who is the look-to leader when it matters. Book, KD and Beal all are deferential in that way. Great ballers but no leadership.
@marcomcdowell8861 12 күн бұрын
We're in the second round of the playoffs. Wolves cooking the the Nuggets, Knicks cheating, Dallas-OKC, Cleveland-Boston are 1-1, and they're talking about the bummy Suns and Lakers still.
@KingGazaRadio823 12 күн бұрын
They need to trade Beal ASAP.
@ronniesandiego1893 12 күн бұрын
No trade clause
@blablablaa14 12 күн бұрын
They can't no one will want his deal. No one wanted it before. They can only trade KD/Book
@KingGazaRadio823 12 күн бұрын
@@ronniesandiego1893 yeah this video reminded me lol
@KingGazaRadio823 12 күн бұрын
@@blablablaa14 well then KD and Book both need to leave, Suns are done 🤣
@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381 12 күн бұрын
Not happening
@ivanviera4773 12 күн бұрын
The issue with Mike Budenholzer its his lack of adjustments in the playoffs he did not made any against Jimmy Butler and the Heat he was outcoached by Spoelstra.
@SSJRome 12 күн бұрын
A new coach isn’t gonna fix the fact that the suns need a table setter and a leader
@querrythis 10 күн бұрын
It's not the coach's fault. Remember it was KD who said he "does not need a coach" when he was with the Nets.
@mr.entertainer9193 12 күн бұрын
What’s the point of giving someone a five years contract when yu knew you probably gone fire him
@leekautz2926 12 күн бұрын
Has Mark Jackson been blackballed or what?
@willthomas6503 12 күн бұрын
Obviously
@alvaroalfaro9478 11 күн бұрын
Lakers should recruit Chris Quinn. 10 plus yrs under Spoelstra and Riley. Excellent at players development . Maybe more ideal for a rebuild but he's got alot of battle experience in deep playoff runs last 10yrs.
@wirmandisugriatw8715 12 күн бұрын
will buldenhozer brings darvin ham and adrian griffin as assistant ?
@haywood0457 12 күн бұрын
CP3 took em to the Finals with Book and Ayton. Now they got swept with KD Book and Beal. 😂
@d.anthony4363 12 күн бұрын
Darvin Ham is available 😂
@pauljoseph3081 12 күн бұрын
Suns & Lakers HC will tarnish any coaches resume.
@juliomaldonado56 12 күн бұрын
How does it work when you get fired on a 5 year contract? Anyone know if they pay him for the full contract or just a year?
@d4rkwest40 11 күн бұрын
They keep paying them as if they were still coaching I believe
@courtneysmith1352 11 күн бұрын
I hate when teams make players play out of their primary position
@PrinceMalachi7 12 күн бұрын
Exactly what I been saying. The roster is flawed. Frank Vogel should not have been fired
@BeatByMars 12 күн бұрын
Patience is a thing of the past. This team had issues regardless of coaching. Frank didn’t have the players nor the time. One season is crazy
@AGJunyah 12 күн бұрын
It's crazy how they're not mention Mark Jackson 🤦🏾♂️ I really hate that he's blackballed..
@noiisserpmii 12 күн бұрын
The era of just throwing superstars together is over. U need chemistry & good role players. Vs just throwing top whatever stars together & expecting a win
@gamble510 11 күн бұрын
In the most organic way all teams are being forced to develop from the inside out. No more bought and paid for championships because the bag's been compromised which creates a lane for potentially new dynasties we never would've expected. The order of the day for franchises will likely be hiring superior player development and conditioning personnel, etc. "You gotta love the players your with... love the players your with!" 😅
@MichaelHarris-sv3zi 12 күн бұрын
They got what they deserve, gave team away for one man, now look at them don't have a clue what to do with the team.sad😢😢
@BigKlassic 12 күн бұрын
Grumpy Wilbon is GREAT 😂👏🏾
@Dramafilled 12 күн бұрын
And they need mark Jackson or Jeff van gun if he's available
@Wegotnext777 12 күн бұрын
If Bron needs to retire isn’t it fair KD should too🤔
@DesignerBass 11 күн бұрын
lol Wilbon is about blaming players not coaches. The Suns have enough to not get swept or lose 4th leads. Frank is a defensive coach.
@AnthonyTaylorJr210 12 күн бұрын
“A little different” “Best out of AD” You mean like Coach K??
@andrewlauchengco7923 10 күн бұрын
6:04 Wasn't SGA traded TO Oklahoma FOR Paul George?
@jeremy6862 12 күн бұрын
Budenholzer would have to be insane to go that dumpster fire
@xander0901 12 күн бұрын
The Suns didn’t “fire” Frank Vogel. They let Frank Vogel go free. Hope the man enjoys every dollar the Suns owe him.
@EnriqueJesusBriceno 12 күн бұрын
It's what happens when the players are building the rosters
@Z38citnxidoei25hh 12 күн бұрын
Laker GM is the major problem with team basketball decision.
@Big7wardnola 12 күн бұрын
Is it me....or does anybody else think these sports shows is getting ridiculous
@willthomas6503 12 күн бұрын
Must be nice drawing a salary spewing hindsight opinion. Woj is one of very few with credibility IMO.
@meks90 12 күн бұрын
The Suns are making a good choice in Budenholzer. He will craft a system that will get them a top-4 seed in the West. KD better become the playoff adjustments because that's what he can't offer.
@dasher920 12 күн бұрын
Who says any of those guys other than JJ wants to be their coach????
@timothy280 12 күн бұрын
Bud is not tactically one of the best coaches as Woj said, his issues were not making adjustments in playoffs. He’s a great regular season coach.
@aaronace720 12 күн бұрын
why i think woj would be so much cuter if he took dem glasses off
@kaysheye7784 12 күн бұрын
you meant to tell me that Mike Budenholzer won't immediately fix the Suns? 😵
@khancrz6993 12 күн бұрын
ESPN using emojis in their descriptions is so immature to me …im JS
@kevinhagberg1648 12 күн бұрын
I don't understand. Frank Vogel won the toughtest NBA title in history with the Lakers and now he can't keep a job.
@Gary-ux9yo 12 күн бұрын
They don't need another super player they need power forward point guard role players
@QRobNYC 12 күн бұрын
They should’ve never traded for Beal, brought back CP3 and filled out the rest of the roster specifically a solid bench
@kennethhenson8240 9 күн бұрын
The coach ain’t the problem the roster is the problem they don’t have a point guard for starters
@LysergiCoyotl 12 күн бұрын
Suns are basically screwed unless they break up one of those big 3 into a number of more solid role players
@cosmic-10r61 12 күн бұрын
Sure... Jeanie and Rob totally have this.. their history shows great decision making 😅
@GarbageMan144 10 күн бұрын
4:21 perk an absolute liar lol, KD never said he didn't want CP
@thetruth7089 12 күн бұрын
They should’ve hired him last year before Vogel but they don’t know why they talking about
@LysergiCoyotl 12 күн бұрын
Imagine paying $50 million a year for Kevin Durant right now when you could pay $35 mil for Ant Edwards 😅
@freezhollywood 12 күн бұрын
Perk right. Super teams are dated. You can’t be too heavy anymore. No more gimmick offenses. You need a big again and you need a PG with vision.
@tevincastle 12 күн бұрын
They should have kept Monty Williams... Especially if they got rid Ayton anyway
@romello4913 12 күн бұрын
At this point all you can do is hire a new coach and hopes he makes it work
@funkslave9425 11 күн бұрын
I thought Book would be the leader. He needs to step up, he’s the face of the Suns, has to lead them out of the doldrums.
@junkdawg2740 12 күн бұрын
Don’t they got point guards? Why tf they can’t get them men up to speed???
@ericzoo6342 12 күн бұрын
Mark Jackson as Lakers new coach
@jaygreen2726 12 күн бұрын
Lakers need a new GM I don’t like how our team is being managed
@ryanswihart1448 12 күн бұрын
Did Perk just imply that KD orchestrated CP3’s exit cause he didn’t want to be held accountable by him…? 😳😳😳
@genxtasy9914 12 күн бұрын
He signed a 5 year for god knows how much. If he makes it to the 3rd ill be surprised
@Binja017 11 күн бұрын
They should not have traded CP3 for Beal.
@DavyBoy81 12 күн бұрын
Where will KD go next?
@Jgift_9x 12 күн бұрын
GREat for the SUNS!!!!!!!
@dmitryowens 12 күн бұрын
The Suns are cursed for unfairly taking the team away from Robert Sarver and running him out of the league for basically no reason.
@asburycollins7328 11 күн бұрын
Lakers' experiments concerning their BIZ and labels are priorities always forefront
@user-fd1mv8dl9q 12 күн бұрын
So you look to Wilbon for solutions?
@D.Nosie001 11 күн бұрын
Media has no patience for Phoenix. Therefore Phoenix front office has no patience either! Okc, Timberwolves, Denver, and even the warriors. All were patient and it paid off. Phoenix makes moves like the front office is on meth.
@jeffcann9159 12 күн бұрын
Durant is 36 and clearly declining when you watch the games ( not look at his stats). He just isn’t as dominant on both ends of the floor.
@jvtopflight796 12 күн бұрын
They should give him the ball more.. Book has the ball way too much.. Wolves made him look real bad.. Book looked lost out there
@windridermach 12 күн бұрын
jj really working hard on leroids knob for that job 😂😂😂
@BrotherKellerman 12 күн бұрын
If you can’t win with devin Booker, Kevin Durant, and Bradley Beal, idek what to tell you lol
@FunnyBaseballStadium-cc5dk 12 күн бұрын
If you think Beal is still a good player, you should watch another sport lol
@BrotherKellerman 12 күн бұрын
@@FunnyBaseballStadium-cc5dk you’re missing the point. It’s the COMBINATION OF ALL 3, that’s what’s so crazy
@FunnyBaseballStadium-cc5dk 12 күн бұрын
@@BrotherKellerman Means nothing. You can't add garbage to two studs and expect them to be great collectively lol
@cyrussencila8879 12 күн бұрын
i'm glad my goat steph curry don't have all these dramas coach situation
@smoove2432 12 күн бұрын
Not necessarily flawed. Just need a point guard and move Nurk for a Defensive alley threat that can rebound and rim protect. Slide KD up to the 4. Book to the 3 and keep Beal at the 2. Then Perk gone say KD didn't want CP cause he was gonna hold him accountable 😏. Stop it CP was making 35-40 million hust to get hurt at the wrong time. Stop it
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