Are you going to make other character analysis videos of other series such as Re:Zero for example?

Thomas Fernandez Yep! My entire channel is full of character analysis videos. FMAB, HxH, Monster, Fate/Zero, Gurren Lagann, Death Note, Berserk, some MHA, and more. Regarding Re:Zero, I made a 40-minute video on it a couple of years ago where I talked about the characters. I don't have anything to add to that.

I like you

Aleczandxr can you comment on steins gate 0?

Pedro Spegiorin I've commented on it at great length on my Twitter. I won't be making a video on it though.

Good shit

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Jimmy Ichigo Jimmy Ichigo With a final line that cryptic, there’s no such thing. It’s laced with irony. The dwarf in the flask only has one eye. Yet Truth says ‘eyes’ plural. So it can refer both to his human-form, which signifies that his human body should have enabled him to appreciate humanity itself-why else would he have taken that form unless it’s what he wanted to look like? And it can also refer to the fact that every part of himself that saw humanity’s valuable qualities clearly with their own eyes before dying (all the homunculi) were separate from him upon his death. Most notably Greed, who Father tries to absorb into himself to get hold of a philosopher’s stone. Greed acts selflessly for the first time to save Ling, then gets bitten in half by Father and is unable to be consumed. Right when Greed realizes that what he’s always longed for is friends, he disappears into nothingness-and the last thing to disintegrate are his eyes. Father ends the story stripped of all human sins and is thus completely incapable of understanding the value of living a human life. It’s why Ed’s answer of not needing alchemy when he has people in his life he cares about is deemed correct by Truth. If Father had been consumed by Greed, he, ironically enough, would’ve understood the essential lesson that Truth wanted to instill in him: other people have inherent value.

UltimateKyuubiFox I think the irony of father was that he was trying to obtain the impossible which was to be the perfect being someone superior to god Truth knew this and laughed at his attempts as he knew that there is no such thing as perfection. As for his quest for knowledge as Truth said he stole his power and knowledge from others meaning he learned nothing on his own even in the end he didn’t know where he went wrong in his quest for all knowledge like bro said father was selfish

Seven and a half pairs

Greed😢

Mehh.. Sloth and Gluttony aren't that great.

Lmao

@@justmyopinion79 true

But Bradley was spectacular

All is one and one is all.

2003 just did it better

Tatsuhiro Satou nah

@@tatsuhirosatou5513 2003 just invented all, it is filler.

@@stevebisset1522 No, they invented a character named Dante.

I am glad that you mentioned that. I think it's also important to remember that once he reconsumed Greed, he momentarily was able to showed that genuine interest in Ed and Al. But because it was of course only a small fraction of himself, he was still very much incomplete of his original self.

Xanhus Like I’ve mentioned before, I elaborate on them in separate videos. They’re still individuals and I treat them as such for these videos. I’ve covered two of them in longer videos already (and may do more) and I touched on them easily enough to communicate my point here. Anything more would have been peripheral and unfocused.

Linking with Father as their origin and analyse at there will be more prominent i should say...

Yes he cared about Hohenheim but when he still had emotions. Pride was one of the reasons he actually shared the philosopher stone with Hohenheim, something he later regretted. If he wasn't soo emotional back then we wouldn't have Hohenheim, so no Ed and Al, no reverse circle. Quite ironic that emotions are what destroyed him in the end. And yes I believe there were still pieces of emotions left in him, Gluttony, Pride and Sloth being the most obvious ones, that seriously fucked him up.

Hohenhiem even notices Father's personality is rather bland without his 7 desires in his soul. He also never got an answer out of him when asked why he created the homonculi and have them address him as "Father" when he had previously mocked him on the idea of having and fathering children of his own.

It's pretty befitting.

Well he just told the truth and the truth hurts lol

The true Truth tells the false Truth (Father) with the sentence which he is also used to blame humans by the nature of Truth they seek for lol

Lol

Yeah. In the beginning, he was scary(not as much as Gluttony, but scary nonetheless.), In his later appearances, he comes off as superior, then Greed weakens him, he loses control of The Truth, then it's rather disgusting to see how weak he is when Edward beats the crap out of him. Then you pity him when he says his last lines: "I only wanted the freedom...to know." Father is many things, but if I had to pick one word to describe him, it would be "hollow." He is nothing but a leather bag, and The Truth knew it.

I mean, nobody asks to be born. It's like children who are sexually abused and go on to become paedophiles themselves. You feel bad for them, I mean, they were victims. They didn't ask to become like this. That doesn't mean you can just forget about the children they've abused. Nobody is inherently evil. We all have good sides and bad sides, even the most morally reprehensible people that come to mind. This is why we can't let sympathy interfere with justice.

@@jammer523691aj I completely agree with not letting sympathy get in the way of justice. You're 100% right there. I just question the idea of an eternal truth, an absolute justice truth at all times. But that's more my philosophical critique of fma that literally no one cares about XD

"I didn't ask to be born, DADS."

"In life, every player has to play with whatever cards life deals them, but once the cards are in hand ONLY they can decide how to play them to win the game." - Frankie Sinatra. It's easy to give into the idea of pitying father when you see him thrown crying into the void, buy you must remember: When he saw the cards life dealt him, rather than playing them wisely and trying to win fairly he threw all of his cards away and tried to eat the dealer. It's not anybody else's fault if that gets him tossed out of the casino.

@@souffrantdepine3762 That's a pretty funny analogy XD. I may use it someday. Tho to play devils advocate, I don't think life could be called a fair dealer in that case

The homunculus were literally created from father shedding his human traits.

That's an interesting perspective, how a dimensional villain can actually take away from a story. Do you have any examples of that happening?

Yeah I feel the same way he's serviceable to the narrative, but not that interesting when all is said and done.

Father is far more interesting than Ozai. And I disagree that Ozai "is not very interesting on his own". (This is a bit silly anyway, you can't see a character out of their story.) I was pretty interested in his familial life, and kinda wanted to know more. Like, what was his relation with his wife ? What was his relation with Iroh before ? Was he always that powerhungry ? That episode where the Gaang hide in their old vacation villa was interesting for both Azula and Zuko. He wasn't explored because it wasn't that necessary for the story. Especially when we do that already with other character like Zuko, Iroh and Azula ? Anywya, in the end, it's more that he didn't have much screentime, than that he isn't a good villain.

@@Baamthe25th has it right. What it comes down to is that Sozin's ambition to unite the four nations in solidarity even greater than the sum of its parts was tainted by the idea that the other nations had to be conquered to do it. He wanted to do this so he would be acknowledged by history. It was a sentiment tinged by arrogance and insecurity: the notion that the Fire Nation was superior to its peers and the fear that the other nations couldn't be persuaded into a single civilization, so the Fire Nation had to *dominate* them. Despite his good intentions, Sozin's attitude was poisoned from the beginning, corrupting not only his heirs, who became more twisted with each passing generation, but the entire society he led, eventually warping it into a fascist state. Everything that Ozai and Azula do is tinged with a sense of arrogance, fear, a desire to be acknowledged, and an inability to properly relate to those around them, almost as though they embody Sozin's ambition - and why wouldn't they? They've been shaped by its consequences their entire lives. In them, the need to conquer which tainted Sozin's initial goal has blossomed into an obsession with power which supersedes the original point of uplifting all people. Ozai and Azula project utter confidence in their superiority - the power they cling to - while never sincerely trusting anyone around them. They can't relate to other people and so they have no faith in them, which makes them paranoid. They must dominate others, because in their mind fear is the only way to make certain of other's loyalty, and if they don't have that certainty, they can't feel secure. This is to the degree that when Azula discovers that fear can't be relied upon, _her entire conception of reality ceases to be reliable._ But Azula only _really_ breaks after her father denies her the honor of being at his side during the Sozin's Comet Earth Kingdom invasion. She takes this as rejection, an expression of shame in her, and says she doesn't want to be treated like Zuko... because just like Zuko, she craves Ozai's acknowledgment - he's the one person she looks up to, the one person she doesn't need to hold power over or make afraid of her. At a very basic level, he's her dad before anything else. And Ozai looks bizarrely bemused and even annoyed at her reaction. He just doesn't get why this is so important to her, except in terms of how much power she has. He is _so bad_ at interpersonal relationships that he can't even properly relate to the child that takes more after him than anyone. He basically tries to bribe her by giving her the title of Fire Lord, all while he appoints himself to the even greater station of "Phoenix King" - because just like Sozin and Azula, he wants to be acknowledged, and he's going to do it by being remembered for all time as the scary powerful dude who burned the shit out of everyone who opposed him. In that moment, Ozai is trying to satisfy Azula while keeping her below him. He wants to placate her, but he's obviously not going to cede authority over her - that'd be absurd, he can't be certain of her loyalty otherwise! It just doesn't process for him that their relationship is more than its power dynamic - after all, when it came down to it, he was willing to have _his_ father poisoned (by his wife!) to get what he wanted, so when Azula comes storming up to him demanding (begging for) his recognition, what's at the forefront of his mind isn't joy at her filial piety, it's _paranoia._ Ozai was Ozai, the leader of the Fire Nation. Everything the Fire Nation had become by the time Aang reawakened was a reflection of Ozai and how he looked at the world, and Ozai himself was the distorted echo of Sozin's once high-minded ambition. He didn't have as much screentime as he could've, but taken as a whole he's actually pretty well-realized.

My god, I’m so happy someone feels this way. I’ve been scrolling the comments in curiosity, to see if anyone else could see the near identical similarities of Ozai and father. Both villains appear bland and narrow minded but that is the point. They both bring out the best out of all the characters they have made suffer and this ultimately leads to their own downfall, as all the people around them have grown so much from the suffering caused. And they both just make so much sense in the series they are put in. And to be honest. Sometimes in the real world some people are just plain evil and malice and theirs no explanation for it.

Hohenheim even points out that by gaining a human body and stripping himself of his seven sins, he's basically back to where he started, only that his vessel is bigger

Only to be cast in a cage for the remainder of time in the end

Pancakes On Rage As in... Daddy’s hurting?

Fuck me that Bayonetta reference.

"I've bathed in it myself. Now its your turn Daddy!" - Greed

NO

"I wanna see Truth too Daddy."

Admittedly, that was probably his intent from the beginning as part of his plan to drag down God.

Keep in mind that the entire reason Amestrian alchemy is that way is because they were all taught by Father.

Heartless Alchemists with the watchdog status would I guess...

perhaps in regard to the pursuit of knowledge or truth. Riza's father stated he effectively died when he completed Flame Alchemy and became satisfied, having nothing else to learn. However, alchemists also live by the credo of "Alchemist, be thou for the people", and we see some Alchemists, like Izumi, use their abilities to assist others.

More reason I have more pity than hate toward Shou Tucker. Of course, as somebody else said in the comments on this video, any sympathy shouldn't get in the way of justice. And what Shou did to his family of choice while throwing away any sense of remorse about it was definitely a lot to answer for.

How did the Dwarf/Father end up in the flask originally Was a part of him able to escape hell on his own or did he have help

Thanks so much for the kind words and for sharing your thoughts. I agree, there are a startling number of character parallels and "pseudo-foils" - it really shows some fantastic story structure and planning.

Thanks. I'm not particularly interested in covering individual characters from 03. If I do ever make a video about it (and I'm not sure that I will, because I'm quite a bit less passionate about it than I am about Brotherhood) it'll be about broader themes and concepts rather than individual characters.

Aleczandxr Cool, I just thought the Homunculi and Dante were the best parts of the 2003 version because of how different they are from the manga, keep up the good work

I think the moral is more about wisdom comes from accepting your limitations. To make this reasoning short consider the last interactions with the truth between dwarf in the flask and edward. The truth doesn't chastise the Dwarf because of his persuits, but more that the origin of his persuit come from pure arrogance, which was why he had no tree of wisdom. Edward is praised though for reasoning that he is only human, and believing that he could defy the universe through alchemy was just arrogance, thus why he gives up his gate of truth.

Hypocrisy is only a big crime when it has long term consequences, in the short term, Hypocricy is not even at the mid-low tier list of Crimes.

@@basilofgoodwishes4138 Father's hypocrisy, and everything that stems from it, literally ended up killing at least one kingdom, and caused unparalleled death and destruction spanning centuries, if not millennia. So yeah, I'd say his hypocrisy is probably not just a big crime, but *the ultimate crime.*

@@FirstLast-cg2nk I was reffering to Kimblee you know.

@Yuri Markov I like Kimblee and he remains as one of my favorite characters

He didn't care,he was the reason Pride was defeated.

There's something playfully sinister about that idea.

There's no God or Godhood. There's only someone idiotic enough to create and trap by the Godlike.

@@kliop00023 what?

Well, the one thing we know about FMA universe is the law of equivalent exchange, you can get anything for nothing. So, I don't think it's a joke simply integrated to the story, it's the very basis of it.

ieshi akerman another one is “the perfume” by Patrick Süßkind

Cheers.

That's how great mangas are made.Those whom make you debate and have discussions years after it's release.

There's no God or Godhood. There's only someone who is idiotic enough to create and trap by Godlike.

@@kliop00023 Careful, your ego is showing

Thx Know/talk too much is not good lol

@@kliop00023 Lol I can relate

Thank you! And oh for sure, he was completely clueless most of the way through the story. He had intelligence but a lack of general logical sense. And he is something of a mix of greed, envy, gluttony and sloth incarnate, which renders most of his purging completely useless.

HE IS NOT BLENDABLE!

Die-hard fan cracked: For his name, he directly names himself as Homunculus when Slave 23 asks him. Dwarf in the Flask is what Hohenheim (aka Slave 23) calling him. Father is what he wants his 'chlidren' calling him. How complicated lol

AnimeWolf7 He's a clear plot device but one that I argue is well woven into the overall narrative and message of the series. Hence, why I love him. I find that Arakawa is in love with the idea of irony. I forget who posted this(major credit to them), but all the Hommculi die ironic deaths related to their vices.

@@Avarn388 yeah although isn't every death of a villain ironic? Like say the Disney films?

Thomas Fernandez Yeah, almost every single villain death is full of irony. It's narrative design.

Ending is more important that Father lol

I'm very sorry to hear that.. I know it doesn't help, but I wish you all the best.

You are facing real sh*t bro, take care :)

Hope you will feel better later. Take care.

been 3 months, hope youre better now man :)

it gets better

Fair.

Papasito?

BATYA

Eh, it's pops for me.

daddy

Thank you! Nice to hear that you agree and relate to this way of thinking.

I prefer to call him "The Homunculus"

You serious? I loved the name "father" because it fits with his god complex really well and his image being that of a stereotypical god image of a old man in white robes with a white beard and hair. It's All perfect thematic story telling for him in his god complex.

I agree. While people say Dante is a more better main antagonist than Father is, and while that may be true, but I still find a interesting villain who is smart but flawed.

Well said

Well Love Live isn't very good so

I did , I feel you haha

True.I love his stuff.

He wanted to swallow the entire world and god itself. I’d say he was full of greed.

@@Aleczandxr Pride too for even thinking he could do such a thing

Aleczandxr hence why Greed has one of the most powerful abilities, but his personality holds him back. I personally think the Ultimate shield is the most powerful Homunculus Ability. The Eye is another contender but it’s only good thanks to Bradley’s skill meets it half way. Greed and Pride are his most powerful fates, and are the most powerful Homunculi

It's literally stated in the english dub at least. Father ripped out all of his sins, so he's nothing more than an empty husk at this point.

Much appreciated, glad it was useful.

I have to admit this was great analysis.

Is that serious?

Memeing.

Father IS NOT BLEND!

Hello, fellow stoner!

Thanks! I won't ever do a video on Shinji though, sorry.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed them.

they are essential for humanity.

Thanks for watching!

Thanks very much.

You’ve misunderstood the crux of my point there, I think. I’m aware of everything you said and I actually talked about a decent amount of that in the video. My point is not that Father is bland. My point is that he would have been bland without the (subtle, as you say) context that makes him interesting. This comment isn’t a disagreement, to clarify.

He was the endgame villain, or the final boss.

WTF is this "ah dub" statement? What?! Piss off with that statement. This English dub is fantastic and so have most English dub have been for the longest for over 20 years now. That statement is so bad it's pain to hear. This isn't the 90s anymore to be thinking with any of that nonsense.

Thanks!

That’s terrific to hear, thanks so much.

I'm not particularly interested in covering individual characters from 03. If I do ever make a video about it (and I'm not sure that I will, because I'm quite a bit less passionate about it than I am about Brotherhood) it'll be about broader themes and concepts rather than individual characters.

Eternally grateful for your time ;)

Awesome to hear that, thank you for watching as always!

That isn’t much different from my opinion at all. Like I said, he’s extremely well-written, just not in a traditional way.

Vicious was great, get this slander out of here

What makes vicious great?

Who’s Vicious?

@@joestriker8518 The main antagonist in Cowboy Bebop.

Yeah, I never gave a damn about Vicious or even really found him intimidating/entertaining.

My pleasure!

Cried tears of joy

*raises hand*

@@aidanforero5601 lol

I can't say I cried but watching Roy just fuck him up is one of the most memorable parts of the show for me

+Jimmy Ichigo Sir I must argue with you. His last fight with Mustang was Arakawa's biggest mistake as he should've put up more of a fight. But, may I remind you that he almost killed Ed AND Ling in a 2 on 1 fight. When he lost to Marcoh he was outnumbered 6 to 1 and one of those 6 was Scar, a very powerful character. Also, he could have killed Marcoh in that fight if he didn't need him alive. Envy was relatively a pretty powerful character so I would show more respect if I were you.

Cheers, nice to hear that.

I still say Father is kinda impressive as he is may not be a impressive individual, but I do admire some of his cunning & patience.

Thomas Fernandez Oh I liked his plans and would never call him a bad villain I just didn't enjoy him as mucb as Dante.

Original seen here so still hard to decide on which one... :P

It's a sheinein lmao

Its characters act on emotion like seinen but the action and powers are shounen.

I was.. joking. Hence the inb4. It's clearly shonen.

Mitch Hardw So absolutely no characters in shonen "act on their emotions?" Right...

@@contemptman3646No both have emotions but Seinen usualy focuses on more emotional and adult themes.

Nazgul PL I enjoy Dante but I can see what you mean. Bradley is awesome. One of my favorite characters in the entire series. Also, RIP Ed Blaylock. He was awesome in the role.

@@Avarn388 Ed Baylock will be remembered as a great & recognizable voice actors.

He is all the villains and not a villain at the same time I guess as the villains are originated from him and he is crystal-cleared when he separates from them alchemically...

How the 2003 series is a filler O_o

:(

How this posted 5 minutes ago and it currently shows less likes _and_ less views

Thanks!

Well I'm delighted you found me! Thanks for the kind words.

Glad you enjoy them, thanks very much for the support!