Really liked the new 3D graphics used to explain visually about the subject - great work on the video 😎
@rick-hm3ji5 жыл бұрын
Extremely clear and articulate speaker. Excellent video!
@AUTOVICEMKII5 жыл бұрын
Super informative! I've purchased a few things from FCP Euro now and can't recommend them enough. Getting these educational videos are such a nice bonus. Thanks guys!
@JacobHalfman4 ай бұрын
Kinda interesting that you added reverb after the noise cancellation pass to make the voice sound more natural. Nice touch.
@SpatialDragon5 жыл бұрын
Okay, my thing is that with a sequential you push forward to downshift and pull back to upshift, using the G forces of the car to help you shift. See at 5:00 into video, he is backwards. It COULD be done that way but during braking your body is moving forward making pulling the lever back harder than pushing it forward.
@fcpeuro5 жыл бұрын
Good call @SpatialDragon , a bit of an oversight on our end! Nate's gotten too used to paddle shifters I guess ;) - Ben
@ViceVersace2 жыл бұрын
@@fcpeuro Give him the sack
@johnmcgovern38063 жыл бұрын
Torque steer is nothing to do with shaft length by itself, its the difference in cv joint angle because of the different shaft length
@fcpeuro5 жыл бұрын
Read More Here: blog.fcpeuro.com/sequential-dsg-transmissions-differences-explained And blog.fcpeuro.com/the-definitive-guide-to-the-dsg-transmission
@A5M5developrof3 жыл бұрын
As a career technology education, automotive technology teacher at a high school; this is a valuable article and outstanding educational video. FCP euro is on the suggested sites for all my students professional education. Congratulations to team FCP and thank you.
@thooke2225 жыл бұрын
Great video; I learned some things that I had always kind of wondered about...
@eugenepokotilo71083 жыл бұрын
Wow! Such a great explanation. enjoyed straight cut gear noise btw!))
@Squirrelmobile745 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Great explanation and the use of graphics made it easy to understand.
@steffenweyers91284 жыл бұрын
Shot for this super informative and rare look into TCR cars. Really loved this video.
@fcpeuro4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steffen! Glad you love the video!
@NoahSachs15 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, yes please I would like to see more about racing gear boxes!
@terrancetyrell67975 жыл бұрын
I'd LOVE a sequential for my '96 850!
@wezzla5 жыл бұрын
Big thumb up from Prague, Czech Republic
@silver928s45 жыл бұрын
great explanation and video. I have a dsg in my audi tt and love it. I was not aware of the difference between it and a sequential gearbox.
@mattnsac5 жыл бұрын
Left out one other down side to straight cuts, theyre weaker. They have less tooth engagment than a helical, but they also dont side load the gears and bearings which cost you power but also a lot of heat that you have to deal with. Straight cuts do sound awesome, just wear earplugs.
@darcos75352 жыл бұрын
Wow. Really impressive, concise explanation. One of the best I've seen yet.
@rawin48512 жыл бұрын
Great video Nate. Awesome presentation and content 👍🏾
@KJ_Tron5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, that was really useful explaination.
@MicrosoftPowerBoost5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good luck with the new toy 🍀
@ld71d965 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, Thanks! LD71😁
@pedrocacao50815 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these technical explanations FCP EURO :)
@jdankowski27433 жыл бұрын
great clip, good job
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@p3t3san3 жыл бұрын
Great video, really liked the entire explanation.
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, Pedro!
@thesunofodin5 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot of things from this video. Thank you very much!
@fcpeuro5 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to take away some helpful info from the video!
@kdudutse5 жыл бұрын
really clear and simple explanation
@lazydog2744 жыл бұрын
That was a great detailed explanation of transmissions..... yes you got to do retakes and edit But the end result was A Great explenation of 2 great transmisions Thanks
@fcpeuro4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked the video!
@TuEIite5 жыл бұрын
Well explained, thanks.
@garagetube28304 жыл бұрын
@8:47 i didn't get you here! , Do you think that the reason for a quicker engagement is the size? or pneumatic pressure ?? because these clutches are heavy and i think mainly they reduce size to save weight, please correct me if i am wrong
@Erik-rp1hi3 жыл бұрын
My 2010 M5 has the SMG. Use in manual mode with the fastest gear change and drive the car hard and it is a dream. Even has rev. matching but if you time the shifts right it is not needed. I very happy with it.
@fcpeuro3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, Erik!
@fadidan842 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Cool topic explained very very well.
@Thomas..Anderson5 жыл бұрын
Good and informative. Much better than a lot of wannabe talkalots out there. Liked.
@fcpeuro5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, more videos like this to come!
@vasilisgreen3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand a few things. I, and lots of others, ride a motorcycle. Almost all, if not all, use straight cut sequential dog boxes. All of them last the lifetime of the bike. All of them shift smoothly and all of them shift without having to use the clutch. All of them also shift easily, with a feather touch of the shift lever, like a hot knife through warm butter. And finally, I have personally never heard that gearbox whine that people complain about unless i really try to focus on hearing it, it's literally impossible to hear. Now, i see your 3D presentation and one thing i notice is how tight the dog teeth are shown to be. They are not that tightly packed, on the contrary, they're quite loose. You can mesh one with the other and they can spin one inside the other before the teeth interlock and that's why you can shift without the clutch, and it's not even forcefully jammed. Also, it's important to note that you can't really shift without the clutch unless you have a way to cut the power momentarily so that the teeth disengage. If you are actually accelerating, not even Thor himself could be able to disengage the shift fork from the gear it's attached to. In the motorcycle world we call it a quickshifter and it's a device that cuts the ignition the moment you shift so the transmission is unloaded and you can shift. It shifts in the single digit millisecond range. We can do this with just rolling off the throttle just a bit at the right time and then rolling on again. I will assume the ECU does this automatically in the car when you pull back the paddle shifter or the lever. That huge gap between each dog tooth and the speed at which they are rotating means that it won't jam onto another tooth but instead fall in between them and at the same time it won't have enough time to decelerate much so that it will hit the tooth with a lot of force. The shifts, on the motorcycle at least, are quite smooth and not at all abrupt like people are making it out to be. Note that the motorcycle gearbox is the simplest form of the sequential because it needs to be lightweight and compact, for obvious reasons. So, what makes your gearbox rough and noisy? I honestly want to know, i can't fathom it. Is it the size? Is it the weight? It's definitely not the engine speed, even race cars don't rev as high as superbikes... So, what is it?
@andywilko992 Жыл бұрын
Ones £6000 and ones ££1500 I'd still prefer dsg all day long sequential looks lovely tho great video too 👍
@tylerm.94085 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@fcpeuro5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Teddy!
@OverlandTT5 жыл бұрын
Why would anybody want a dsg on a daily driver? This great video explains the differences the really highlight the disadvantages outside of track use.
@davebalfour52295 жыл бұрын
Saving all that clutch in and out malarkey when your sat in rush hour traffic. All so they are a nice 'box to drive with.
@danlearned61995 жыл бұрын
Hey, quick question?? I've worked with older Hewland race trans with normal style shift lever but wonder in the newer paddle shifter cars if the ignition is momentarily 'killed' to reduce the shock load for the incredibly fast shifts they are known for??
@natevincent5 жыл бұрын
Dan Learned yes ignition cut for upshift and throttle blip for down. Still is very violent.
@user-rg1lx8yt6g5 жыл бұрын
That Dsg looks like my 2006 Volvo XC90 v8 trans would of love to know what to do if they go bad why and where it all began. But overall great video and well detailed as well!
@luckyguy195 жыл бұрын
The Sequential transmission is a larger motorcycle transmission. I kinda surprised the dogs wear out so quickly. Granted the loads are much higher than any motorcycle.
@craiglist76425 жыл бұрын
I believe it is because it is being shifted under load without using the clutch. Anyone know if these cars cut the ignition like a quick-shifter on a bike?
@kirkaugustin22325 жыл бұрын
No, motorcycles use synchros and not just dogs. Synchros also use dogs, but have rollers or cones to help. A dog only system is just like the dogs in a synchro transmission, but without the rollers or cones. Dogs have to wear out without cones of rollers to help synchronize. It is essentially a non-synchro transmission, and you have to double clutch. You do not double clutch on a motor cycle. All motorcycles use synchro rollers or cones to aid the dogs. None have just dogs.
@kirkaugustin22325 жыл бұрын
A motorcycle always uses a standard sequential transmission with synchros and clutch. The only reason there is a paddle-like pedal shifter instead of a more complex shift pattern of a car, on a motorcycle, is that the foot pedal is connected to a rotating shaft with rotating ramps that push the standard gear selector forks back and forth. Otherwise motorcycles use the same standard transmission with synchros that all standard trans cars used before the DSG. In a standard car trans, the complex shift pattern reduces to just back and forth fork motions as well. There is no real internal difference. The paddle-like pedal motion on a motorcycle is just an external linkage adaptation.
@luckyguy195 жыл бұрын
@@kirkaugustin2232 This is simply not true. I've actually rebuilt dirt bike transmissions. They do not have synchros.
@natevincent5 жыл бұрын
craig list this has a ignition cut on upshifts and a throttle blip on down shifts.
@craigetimmins753 Жыл бұрын
If you do an edit, could you put the computer sim of the DSG changing gears in? It was very clear seeing how the Sequential worked, but there’s nothing (visually) to compare it to… I would love to see the Animation of the DSG working. Great detail otherwise. 👍🏽👍🏽
@markashdown49412 жыл бұрын
Great Video. What would be really useful is for someone to put together a compatibility guide / reference detailing what DSG Varients are compatible with what engine types starting with mounting points to engine / chassis. Also any coding needed. I have an 2011 EA888 CCBZ gen 2 and looking for replacement DSG but would like know what opions I have other than a straigh DQ250 02E CYZ ? repacement. Really what to get a DQ500 but dont have the above info ? If you can help let me know & I will get intouch.
@636theofthebeast83 жыл бұрын
I love the sequential gearbox in my motorcycle!
@NirajMundra Жыл бұрын
Wow. Thanks a ton.
@xdragosx4 жыл бұрын
great work!
@fcpeuro4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dragos!
@nschulz56985 жыл бұрын
Had a sequential gearbox on my M5. Liked it but shifts were not smooth at fastest shift setting. I believe the Pagani Huayra also has a sequential.
@dennyskerb4992 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍👍
@ATLRIOT5 жыл бұрын
Man wish we could afford one for our RX8 project..
@Kevin_MK7RSR4 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation, thank you! Will we ever see a consumer sequential? Kind of like a sequential DSG hybrid for the street.
@ViceVersace2 жыл бұрын
Why would you want that? There’s no need for such a thing on the streets. Straight cut gears would give you a headache after 10 minutes of driving, maintenance would be too expensive, and DSG’s are already so good. The downshifts being a little delayed when you’re driving aggressively are happening for longevity, a more aggressive tune to the mechatronics is what you need and you’ve got yourself a blast every time you want to have fun.
@satajettube5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid .....
@lilde665 жыл бұрын
Hi I have dq250 on my Passat B6 VR6 3.2L. How can I upgrade the engine ,the 4motion and the DSG?
@fattonalili22214 жыл бұрын
For example it is possible to make a car from Manual to DSG? Should be Different engine or not?
@kipkleimenhagen84342 жыл бұрын
Why don't you need to use the clutch outside of first on a sequential? Does the transmission just brute force itself into gear, even with power coming from the engine?
@user-sc8sx6pb3i2 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert in the topic but here's what I know. Yes the transmission brute forces itself in gear, even though usually the driver lifts of the throttle briefly while shifting or there is a quickshifter which does the same thing automatically when shifting.
@alexbright58734 жыл бұрын
So I’m no expert and he may have mentioned it in the video but can you put straight cut gears in a trans that’s like, let’s say a regular manual, a dsg, or anything other than that specific sequential. And if so, will it be reliable?
@fcpeuro4 жыл бұрын
You can put a straight cut gearset in a regular transmission, however, it is not recommended or really necessary for a street driven car. Straight cut gears are extremely noisy and due to the tighter tolerances, they tend to wear faster than normal helical cut gears.
@michaeldavis25314 жыл бұрын
Dude, 100 lbs. is an insane amount of weight saving!
@fcpeuro4 жыл бұрын
It really is! Not to mention the drivetrain power loss is less through the Sequential vs DSG.
@Yellowtofu845 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, but isn't it push up to downshift pull to upshift @4:59?
@slowpoke96Z282 жыл бұрын
Idk if you mean this one specifically, but overall, it just depends on how the shift drum is machined and how the shifter attaches to it.
@philologusopin47us573 жыл бұрын
You just explained why sequential gearboxes are a bad idea for street cars (quick wear, forceful unsmooth shifts etc). But if thats the case, why are they used in regular street motorcycles? And if they were able deal whith the drawbacks of sequential gearboxes there, why doesnt it work for street cars?
@parmasterls15 жыл бұрын
Can you skip gears in the DSG/DCT? If not, doesn't that make it sequential too?
@kirkaugustin22325 жыл бұрын
All transmission were and are sequential to a degree, but what makes a DSG different is that you are essentially not just selecting the gear you want to go into, but the next one up as well. Its really like 2 transmissions, and you are pre-synchronizing the next gear, for faster engagement. Thus the added complexity and extra shaft and clutch. When you shift, then actually you are just switching clutches between two pre-engaged gears. Vastly superior. It may not always help much if the pre-selected gear is not useful, but it can be very useful in ideal situations.
@michaeldavis25314 жыл бұрын
What about the Audi R-Tronic automated transmission?
@fcpeuro4 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, the R-Tronic is an automated single-clutch gearbox, not nearly as smooth as a dual-clutch gearbox.
@potatochobit5 жыл бұрын
how do I put this in my volvo c30?
@SpaceraverDK5 жыл бұрын
Sequential.. Motorcycle gearbox essentially.. All I have to do is redline and apply pressure to my gear pedal, every time it hits the rev limiter it shifts..
@FederalNetwork5 жыл бұрын
In race cars, push forward to go down, push backwards to go up
@b.snoodleman58645 жыл бұрын
Why would VW care if someone changed anything inside the DSG box? Its not like its going to void the warranty because it never had one.
@natevincent5 жыл бұрын
B.S Noodleman the reason the are tagged is because this is from a homologated TCR race car. Street car variants are not tagged.
@snmthecloser4 жыл бұрын
Why does anyone who ever makes a video always start out with “hey guys?"
@Mohapi_Tau3 жыл бұрын
"you have to build the transmission every 5000km"? My motorcycle has over 50000km & still going strong, has never needed a rebuild.
@ravismaximus79725 жыл бұрын
I don't what front wheel drive car hes driving but they still get torque steer with the bracket there will always be more twist on something longer from flex
@matejburger59415 жыл бұрын
First: when you push forward you downshift Second: sequential gearbox don't always has dog engagment..
@snev25 жыл бұрын
Ironic t-shirt
@GavrielRomero5 жыл бұрын
Standard street car gearbox, has no point of comparison with a real race car gearbox, they're from two different worlds
@MatthewTaylor35 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with the DSG
@watchere9 ай бұрын
every 5000 km jesus
@fcpeuro8 ай бұрын
😅
@thesingularman5 жыл бұрын
I've had motorbikes all my life and never had gearbox problems and yes they have dog gears. Take a look at motoGP bikes with 300 hp .. they only use the clutch to take off .. same for modern road bikes with the same tech. So it seems that cars need to catch up .. only by the information you give. I have also driven semi-trailers with 18 speed gearboxes and yes with dog gears .. once one learns how to synchronize the gears with the revs .. easy going up harder going down .. again you don't need to use the clutch. That design of gearbox is virtually indestructible. Great for trucks weighing 42 tonne all up. So DSG is a waste of time and money
@fastboatster5 жыл бұрын
so basically this is an enlarged motorcycle transmission.
@slowpoke96Z282 жыл бұрын
So its basically a motorcycle transmission lol.
@fcpeuro2 жыл бұрын
In a nutshell, yes 😂
@ltdasilva935 жыл бұрын
or.......buy a manual
@stevyd63495 жыл бұрын
Stay away from the DSG transmissions. Expensive to repair. Over $1000 for the mechatronic unit....no thank you. Same goes for the OB5 transmissions. Poor.
@patthonsirilim5739 Жыл бұрын
One is a real race transmission one is playing pretend.
@kirkaugustin22325 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but completely wrong. Sequential is the OLD style of standard transmission, and DSG is the modern RACING transmission. The fact you can also see some racing people going with a beefed up OLD style standard transmission is just a weight consideration, but there no new, better, or faster aspect to it. Clearly the DSG is the newer, better, and faster technology. The video is also wrong about the gear engagement dogs and straight cut spur gears. Those are not newer, but older, and are reverting back to the old nonsynchro transmissions of the 1930s and 40s. Esssentially gear synchros are also dogs as well, but just have a built in roller or cone to help. What the video is calling a syquential transmission is just without the synchro aids, and is the oldest and most primitive transmission I have seen in over half a century. In addition, while getting rid of over all weight car weight, reducing rotational weight is NOT an advantage. You WANT additional rotational weight because it stores energy like a battery. While in theory the engine/trans can rev more quickly with less rotational weight, the goal is to accelerate the vehicle, not rev the engine/trans, so removing rotational weight actually is usually counter productive. And straight cut spur gears are awful. They have so much less surface area, that they have to be much thicker gears, and that makes them have to weigh much more. The only good thing about straight cut gears is that you no longer have to worry about shaft end play or bearing preload, making the trans easier to rebuild. Again, if you look at a 1930s transmission, it will look almost identical to this sequential transmission.
@Dylanvdongen5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use this gearbox on a vw golf mk5 r32 awd system?
@fcpeuro5 жыл бұрын
There may be something similar out there, but this exact one is not compatible with a mk5 r32. It's specific to our MK7 GTI.