Felling a Peg in a Tight Spot with Mechanical Advantage

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TreeMuggs

TreeMuggs

4 жыл бұрын

Topics covered in this video:
- Mechanical Advantage (Runner Tackle 2:1)
- Importance of clear rope paths
- Zeppelin Bend to lengthen ropes
- Basics of Felling - aiming, cutting a face, using the axe, using wedges, back cut, hinge wood, adjusting the aim, pulling with a truck
Climb High, Work Smart, Read More.
- Patrick

Пікірлер: 111
@jameshecker8493
@jameshecker8493 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Patrick! The voice-over format, with graphics, made everything crystal clear. I am sooooo glad you introduced your fellow workers to the zeppelin bend--it was the perfect knot for that application. Please continue with these high quality videos.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, really appreciate it... - Patrick
@neild7971
@neild7971 4 жыл бұрын
I always try to remember to open my face cut right up on a peg, i’ve had/seen a couple kick off to the side when the hinge closes too soon. And if it’s a peg chances are you’ve dismantled it because it is close to structures, not the spot for one to creak over 20degrees off the lay. I know you took other precautions, side cuts and thin hinge, but a wide open face is my choice. thanks for all the vids! Great job
@timberb1601
@timberb1601 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! I just got done telling my more experienced pallet workers to watch out for the inexperienced...they’ll make all kinds of mistakes out the gate being in the hurry and they just don’t see it...can’t speak against these fellas for lack of initiative though! Good job for noticing and for teaching, and them for hearing you out. I think y’all made a fine team today!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, appreciate it! - Patrick
@neightjay
@neightjay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick. I’m really enjoying the new format. Keep them coming please. 🇨🇦👍🏼
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Yessir! - Patrick
@Joshman5000
@Joshman5000 4 жыл бұрын
The zeppelin bend is my favorite for joining 2 ropes. I have noticed however, different diameter ropes can make it more difficult to untie after heavy pulls with vehicles. Also I used to have issues with joining 2 3/4in stable braid ropes together, one very old and worn and the other almost new. The old rope would almost weld itself to the other and would be a bear to undo but we're talking about pulling with vehicles. Still my go to for joining ropes. The other option I use is a bowline on a bite on each rope and 2 clevis shackles (bend radius) to join them. Love this channel Patrik I have learned quite a lot, keep up the good work sir!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks brother, definitely agree that it works better when both ropes are same diameter.... - Patrick
@doncarlos4548
@doncarlos4548 4 жыл бұрын
Zepplin bend - WTF! Dude, you are my new hero! I stumbled on your channel looking for truckers hitch instructions for a friend. This channel ROCKS!!!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the support brother, really appreciate it! - Patrick
@doncarlos4548
@doncarlos4548 4 жыл бұрын
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM Keep it up, man! You're an inspiration. I sat with my wife to discuss the amazing time we live in, despite many current events. How you go to work with your cameras, organize, film and inform. You really opened up YOUR world to THE WORLD. I took a rappelling class in the army. I love ropes, knots and survival but the application of it all to your field has been really amazing. Don't think I'll be culling any trees but, yes sir, I am impressed! Peace
@firedtradesman
@firedtradesman 3 жыл бұрын
I miss this style of content. Hope to see more sometime. Thanks as always; very valuable.
@333Paradigm333
@333Paradigm333 4 жыл бұрын
The new commentary format is such a great help for us learners. Tree work is very methodical and warrants the attention to detail that you provide. Many thanks, and be safe.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! - Patrick
@BF-rn3oz
@BF-rn3oz 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! Thanks for sharing your techniques! I appreciate the detail.
@Chevron.Muskoka
@Chevron.Muskoka 4 жыл бұрын
Ill give it to ya for patience. That man sounds like he keeps busy knowing it all and just cannot handle someone elses opinions. Good luck on that deal man. Springtime is comin
@truthlies9708
@truthlies9708 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@proxy7863
@proxy7863 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. This is how I teach in this scenario too. Spot on.
@ernstjamesroessel152
@ernstjamesroessel152 4 жыл бұрын
Good Work!!
@PoplarMechanic
@PoplarMechanic 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! - Patrick
@bobwiese6128
@bobwiese6128 Жыл бұрын
Wow... way cool
@mooserider1
@mooserider1 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I cut my first tree 45 years ago I'm learning some great tips from your videos! I find myself pausing a lot to really understand what you are doing. Like cutting the angle cut first, in this video. Matching up the angle cut to a flat cut can be really tricky, I agree! Also, I already watched your side cut video and it made perfect sense, can't wait to try it on a big guy! I'm a new subscriber and I'm so glad I found your channel!
@turtlezed
@turtlezed 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job Patrick....result.
@staceyhill8074
@staceyhill8074 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, very clear instruction and really appreciate all the work you put into these.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, really appreciate it! - Patrick
@smartrate
@smartrate 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Good strategy plus structured method plus careful application equals a safe and successful outcome. Really informative. Thanks for sharing.
@freedomle4022
@freedomle4022 4 жыл бұрын
Watching u work makes me want to change my profession.
@samuelluria4744
@samuelluria4744 4 жыл бұрын
Freedom Le - To leave tree work, or to take up tree work?
@freedomle4022
@freedomle4022 4 жыл бұрын
Take up tree work.
@samuelluria4744
@samuelluria4744 4 жыл бұрын
Freedom Le - Cool! 👍
@youngbaeoh7417
@youngbaeoh7417 4 жыл бұрын
수고하셨어요. 잘보았습니다. 최고입니다. 화이팅
@adamlupenette807
@adamlupenette807 4 жыл бұрын
Wicked job man as always!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers - Patrick
@paulmorin2582
@paulmorin2582 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@hosocat1410
@hosocat1410 4 жыл бұрын
Zeppelin bend...Thanks! Just practiced it a couple dozen times so I'll remember how to tie it when needed.
@johngiannetti.
@johngiannetti. 4 жыл бұрын
Great one, Patrick. I look forward to the side-cut video. I've definitely used it on tops when side-peeling could be a danger by potentially pulling on my lanyard and/or choked-off climb line, but this is actually the first time hearing about potential for influencing the direction of the piece. I'd never considered that before.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy, the lack of side cuts can totally turn a top sideways, or even an entire tree in rare situations...... - Patrick
@geekay4703
@geekay4703 4 жыл бұрын
Zepplin Bend...Yes! I was just gonna type that suggestion then you used it. Well done!
@slaxxx
@slaxxx 4 жыл бұрын
Keep these up please!! Very very helpful
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Yessir! - Patrick
@chadspadeace420
@chadspadeace420 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing it is much appreciated from me great job!
@dwaynemadsen964
@dwaynemadsen964 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. Love the video. Stay safe!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! - Patrick
@3scotto
@3scotto 4 жыл бұрын
Good save on that knot! My boss would have torn me a new one. Started my apprenticeship last year, and your vids have been a lot of help. Keep em comin.
@justinrutan1795
@justinrutan1795 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, Zeppelin bend! Can’t wait to use that one!
@pauld.1256
@pauld.1256 4 жыл бұрын
Name well deserved!!! “Educated” you sir are a pleasure to watch.. I’ve yet seen a video in which l haven’t enjoyed and learned something from.. THANK YOU!!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks man. I don't call myself "educated", that's the name of the movement! Appreciate it.. - Patrick
@johnhildebrand1991
@johnhildebrand1991 4 жыл бұрын
Heck yea I appreciate the tips I learned a few things I love how much detail you put in the vidioe
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
thanks bro, appreciate it! - Patrick
@TreeBoi4Life
@TreeBoi4Life 4 жыл бұрын
Great Fell! Great stuff as always. Keep up the good work!
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, really appreciate it! Hey, my apprentice James was into your stuff a while back, you still pumping out the vids? - Patrick
@thelastdetail1
@thelastdetail1 4 жыл бұрын
Great training video with great tips and a new knot for me to practice. Always learning from you. Thanks man.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, appreciate it... - Patrick
@keithcramer3844
@keithcramer3844 4 жыл бұрын
Great job I like that zeppelin knot. As always Cut it deep
@treeculture9249
@treeculture9249 4 жыл бұрын
Great man. Sweeet video. Well done. ThanksEd. Climber
@troytreeguy
@troytreeguy 4 жыл бұрын
Love it Patrick, nice work. If I can teach guys one knot its the bowline and often i will tie ropes together with two bowlines. Strong as the termination and simple! Be Well
@woodman9624
@woodman9624 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, Patrick ! I’ll use that knot some day. Thanks. The Tallahassee Canuck, Woody.
@nelsbackstrom4493
@nelsbackstrom4493 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. You can always use your ring sling with your pulley. Just pass the tail through the ring to choke and tie an appropriate attachment.
@nelsbackstrom4493
@nelsbackstrom4493 4 жыл бұрын
It may be better not to have your expensive block riding down on the stem unless your in a crotch or bend in stem that offers some protection
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Nels, that never occurred to me, that would have worked perfect in this situation. Thanks for sharing that brother! - Patrick
@TheToolnut
@TheToolnut 4 жыл бұрын
Mighty stuff Pat, 👍 Strange the way sub contract work differs in Canada. Here we bring all our own gear and I definitely prefer it that way. I know my saws are tuned properly, are maintained and have sharp chains. One of my pet hates is people milling around the butt of a tree when I'm in the middle of falling it. I prefer to have one knowledgeable groundsman who knows what he's about rather than a shower of 'know it alls'. Don't be afraid to scribe your back cuts, it saves time and makes one more accurate.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
I bring all of my own climbing gear, *most of my own rigging gear (not all of it), as well as my climbing saw (MS200T) and at least one larger saw, usually a Husqy 575XP with a 20" bar . I end up using stuff that I need, including ropes and saws from the contractor, depending on the situation... I definitely wouldn't say it's a Canada/U.S. difference thing... just the way I roll nowadays... for a long time I travelled with my ground guy and a few extra saws... thanks for watching brother, I really appreciate it! - Patrick
@batmantiss
@batmantiss 4 жыл бұрын
I bring all my own stuff too. I'll be damned if i trust a stranger's climb line. And the quality of my equipment justifies my higher rate of pay.
@TheToolnut
@TheToolnut 4 жыл бұрын
@@batmantiss Agreed Sir, 👍🌲🇮🇪
@vincentbourassa9128
@vincentbourassa9128 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the way you explain, good for a beginner like me! 😉
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother, appreciate it! - Patrick
@neild7971
@neild7971 4 жыл бұрын
If I could offer some advice in this scenario, before getting excited about dropping a huge log, consider wether there may be pipes or other underground services. Particularly if the log is not smooth. The satisfaction of an accurate fell is quickly deflated when a huge puddle suddenly appears
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
That is excellent advice, and so true. Thanks brother. - Patrick
@Chevron.Muskoka
@Chevron.Muskoka 4 жыл бұрын
That low jet needle needs an 1/8 turn out too, erratic idle and the poor throttle response are indicators for a lean condition if it bugs ya and you have to run it much.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I will tell him. Do you do saw adjustment videos? 'Cause that would be awesome......... just sayin' .......... - Patrick
@Chevron.Muskoka
@Chevron.Muskoka 4 жыл бұрын
Working on it. Just got the paid version of filmora for editing.
@jasonfeazel3806
@jasonfeazel3806 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job Brother! Loved the video I learned from it.👍 zeppelin bend is good stuff. 👍 Keep em coming and climb safe Brother. GOD Bless. 🙏😇
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, really appreciate it... - Patrick
@tedjohn441
@tedjohn441 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the great video's and information. I like how you connect the ring with the daisy hitch and when rigging you use that know as well. I will have to watch a little more closely and see how you do that. Seems alot faster to untie than a Bow line.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
I have a video of it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbZlgLaE16izhIk.html
@dustinflores2367
@dustinflores2367 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome knot man, I’ve never heard of the zeplin knot, thanks for showing that I’ve wondered before what is actually the best knot for big pulls with a lot of weight I’ve never had to join rope on a big pull, thanks for the info man
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
All the best... - Patrick
@EricJemAndes
@EricJemAndes 4 жыл бұрын
Good info man. I worked with a guy, that every time he saw me cut the angle cut (of a notch) first, would give me a lecture. I always thought that cutting the angle cut first was more precise. It just intuitively made more since to me. LOL
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, no school like the old school. I definitely see it being far easier to match up to a diagonal cut with a flat cut, than the other way around. Seeing guys make a diagonal that perfectly matches up with a flat cut always impresses me so much, my old boss certainly could never do it! - Patrick
@EricJemAndes
@EricJemAndes 4 жыл бұрын
@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM "no school like the old school"... Yeah, right. Im definitely impressed with guys who can match an angled cut to a flat cut as well. I'm definitely not that guy. lol! Maybe 1of every 5-6 match pretty well. That's it though.
@gregorynelson9682
@gregorynelson9682 4 жыл бұрын
I like to put a wedge that’s square in my face cut to point direction. Then walk out and check from the Front. Hope that makes sense. Anything square will work.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, great point, I have used a wedge before as well. Thanks brother... - Patrick
@nicholasthompson6682
@nicholasthompson6682 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know keep the video coming what that a 661 with rape around bar NICE 😎 keep climbing and be safe
@v3124
@v3124 4 жыл бұрын
I try to stay away from those rape bars lol
@douggibson9084
@douggibson9084 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. huge weight to that trunk. Great ideas and knots 69 zeppelin, nice.
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro... - Patrick
@thecode3fc
@thecode3fc 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Format is definitely bringing more and better information to the presentation. All you need now is a full time camera truck and crew. Lol. Seriously though very good stuff! Very good! Time to develop a learning series?
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, really appreciate it! - Patrick
@ianturner4093
@ianturner4093 4 жыл бұрын
Love your work and and videos! they help a lot with understanding concepts like this. Just wondering your thoughts to using this method vs a single rope with a alpine butterfly or something as a 3-1? Or a block and tackle 5-1 setup?
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
On a big spar like this, I wouldn't trust a 3:1 or a 5:1 to get the job done, it would have to be something more significant, like a skid steer or a truck... The 2:1 advantage in this case was as much about the angle as it was about the increase in pull.... Thanks for watching brother! - Patrick
@ocrun6765
@ocrun6765 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious why the load rope goes through the ring pulley instead of securing it through the ring and running the pull rope around the outside? Is the friction still the same?
@brodyowens4620
@brodyowens4620 4 жыл бұрын
I have always used two stationary Bowline knots never have noticed a problem course I couldn’t remember how to to tie the Zepplin
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried the 2 bowlines bend before, just prefer the zeppelin.... plus I love the name...... - Patrick
@theteacher6404
@theteacher6404 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! I'm a retiree with a new profession. Do you have any starter videos?
@jeffadams492
@jeffadams492 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid thanks I appreciate all the content it must be tough trying to make a buck and put out videos to
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
You're damn right it is bro, but it's a labor of love!....... Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it...... - Patrick
@eucalyptusleemcconnell8314
@eucalyptusleemcconnell8314 4 жыл бұрын
That's just how I do it too we must be good hay mate
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, all the best, friend... - Patrick
@yjjeeper90
@yjjeeper90 4 жыл бұрын
Do you worry about smashing your ring/block when the peg hits the ground, when using this technique?
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely, glad you brought it up. On this one, the top portion had a backlean so I knew the ring wouldn't hit, but normally on a straight peg, I would have laid out a piece of trunk wood to cushion the fall, which would also keep the block from hitting the ground directly. Hope that makes sense, thanks for watching... - Patrick
@yjjeeper90
@yjjeeper90 4 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense, thanks! I could tell this one had the back lean, and wasn't sure if you just planned your rigging point around finding one of them all of the time, or had a technique like you just described.
@scottbrewer2617
@scottbrewer2617 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t you run the risk of smashing your $$$pulley/block when the tree hits the ground???
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you would, that's a good point. Maybe a good reason to use a ring instead of a pulley......... - Patrick
@cormacmccarthy1559
@cormacmccarthy1559 2 жыл бұрын
Man. What's wrong with a sheet bend?
@samuelluria4744
@samuelluria4744 4 жыл бұрын
"Tight spot". 🤐
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM
@TreeMuggs_PatrickM 4 жыл бұрын
damn right! - Patrick
@MartinMorales-un8li
@MartinMorales-un8li 4 жыл бұрын
All rope is doing is pulling tree over, what gives you direccion is your face notch,.
@neild7971
@neild7971 4 жыл бұрын
Martin! If you had ever failed to find a winching anchor directly in line with the desired lay of a dead tree, you would have seen the rope can have more effect than the hinge in some cases. (speaking from experience :D )
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