$100,000 truck and a $400,000 tractor both having DEF issues. Would drive me insane.

At this point, i think you should look for one older tractor without adblue for winter snow push. Just a bit stonger then Erny :)

Amazing technology they came up with saving the environment one service call at a time!

Outrageous that a fairly new expensive tractor won't start when you want it to, you've got the patience of a Saint Mike, personally I'd have lost my sh*t long ago. 🤬🤬🤬

I see a mint John Deere 7810 in your future!

Mike, you need to send this video to your legislation representatives, show them proof why DEF is not working in cold conditions and should at least have a bypass to work around the problem in cold conditions. Just a thought.

I used to move snow with a JD 4430 and loader. Plugged it in for 2hrs with a blend of #1 and #2 diesel and never had any problems in the extreme cold. It had an AM FM radio to boot. New technology is not always better.

Hey Mike, throw those cheap jumper cables away and make a custom set out of welding leads. They will be much more flexible on the frozen planet of Hoth. I love mine.

One would think Fendt would be so proud watching your videos!

Make up a loop hydraulic hose for your svc! So you can circulate your hydraulic fluid so I can warm up faster.

My heart goes out to you fighting the cold, I live in Minnesota

I sense a 724 being sold soon.

I was on a engine and exhaustsystem Training where we had to check on the def system of an fendt 724 and got told the def freezes at around -10°c so to keep the def pump and injector save a valve would change the flow of the def and the injector would open to get all the def out of the def lines and pump after shutting of the tractor . So if the def was then frozen in the tank there is an heating module right next to the intake in the tank wich would be melting the def ice if you started the tractor. After ten minutes of heating the def the pump would turn on to feed the def injector. Sadly because corona i wasn't allowed to play around with the def system but if i remember correctly the def heater should be running the engine coolant so it might have been okay with the warmth of the webasco but then when it was idling it could have cooled of to much so the def froze again. That's what I suspect being the error but at the deere dealership i work at we haven't had a def issue since im working there so i don't know to much about def systems Fixing the issue of refreezeing def should be engine grill covers so the fan won't suck in to much cold air wich would allow the tractor to warm up propperly

Something we found really helpful up north was war surplus parachutes over the machine at minus 50

You need some jumper cables with bigger wire in them.

South Sask Farmers new Mccormick starts well with temperatures down to - 45c and it doesn't have DEF issues.... Time to look at a different make of tractor I think.

Gosh, with all of the alarms, it sounds like there is a core breach imminent....

This might be the first time Mike ended the video on the first try he was MADDD

To get hydraulic warmed up try what the South Sask Farmer does. Put a hose on one circuit to warm up the oil.

Nothing like a good old Massey with no electronics.

Your a patient man mike lol I now appreciate my 2000 case IH mx much more after watching your struggles. Some things just aren’t built for winter

I live just over the border from you mike… northern most Montana… farm n ranch… we run a 2020 6155m deere tractor to feed cows from November to April.. we have very little def issues! Parked outside all the time and just plug in the tractor everyday after use! We get cold here too …

We did a DEF delete on our duramax dually, but it was out of warranty so we had that option. Tooooo many D's in that sentence

You must be fendt up with that tractor by now😆

Just so many issues in cold temps and def! I agree need a overrides!!!

Hey Mike. Switch on the pto. It will help to warm up the hydraulic oil.

In your cold climate def is not good, I would think of getting a pre def tractor and out fit it for winter!

Living in Australia I cannot comprehend cold like you have.

Def saving the world one plastic jug at a time.

Omg working at those temps must be hard without these problems. You are in a good place on social media to campaign for a change in the rules. Wobasco working well now but need a glow plug override in the Software. Have you seen the tents that make you a building between two shipping containers, don’t know if they would stand up to your harsh weather but would at least give you some where to work out if the cold wind! Soldier on spring is on the way 👍

I had a jcb that didn't like cold morning starting. Then I fitted a geared starter and it never fails. The gearing gives it far more torque. They should leave the batteries that you can remove them in a couple off minutes max. Therefore you can take them home with you in the evening to keep them warm.

watching your videos makes me happy i bought a gasser. 36,000 miles so far no problems but mileage really sucks under heavy pulling

need to put a fish tank heater in the DEF Tank

Mike, this would make me absolutely crazy. I think I might go in the back room with the dealer and figure something out. We all know that the manufacturer isn't going to do anything until there is a financial reason to do so.

Mike I think you better find yourself a 7220 like you had with a loader to keep up there to push snow and run an auger

Three years ago my Challenger derated as I started across railroad tracks. Thankfully no train was coming and I was able to coast across. Many of us know how you feel. I hate DEF.

I've said it before, if the manufacturer and dealer say it should work in those conditions tell them to come out when the tractor is cold not just started 2 hours before and try it. Tell them if they can't start it in 20 mins without extra tools (block heater power allowed) to load it on a lowboy and give you your money back since it isn't working clearly. Maybe even lemon laws to cover it if it's noew enough?

I know the feeling Mike. We just purchased one of the smart chargers for our farm . We all highly dislike it. What it refuses to charge we put the old reliable charger on and it works every time lol. Thanks for the videos.

this is the reason ive decided to buy new tractor with everything mechanical. from reverser to hidraulic. im in vegstibles and i dont need 300 + hp tractor. but i cant afford my tractor not working when i need it. and hell. in some part ur videos have helped me to decide what rly want and need. and heck. i bet one of my 40 years old tractor would run just fine in ur climate. tractors are evolving. just backvards.

Your patience is remarkable! I'd have set fire to it by now

Hi Mike, next time you have trouble starting the 724, can you try connecting the jumper cables directly to the starter motor. if that helps then you have a problem with the wiring from the battery to the starter. the engine oil doesn't get warm enough at idle at these temperatures. it helps to put a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator so that no air can get through. like the truckers do on their semi trucks or people with their diesel trucks. and if you want to do it right you would have to wrap the engine and put some fiberglass wool on the bottom of the oil pan (that doesn't start to burn quickly) so that the heat stays in the engine. yes that sucks but honestly I would do that because it is better for the engine and you don't have to spend 3 hours starting the tractor. and to bring the hydraulic oil quickly to temperature, you can make a valve between hydraulic hoses that you just plug into a SCV and close the valve a little. until you hear the oil rush. then you get very quickly temperature in the Hy oil. I'm in british columbia right now where it doesn't get cold enough otherwise I would start the 724 that is here. the 514 is at -15C° plugged in overnight just started as if there were nothing. unfortunately I have not tried at the time the 724. and it is very unlikely to be so cold again here. sorry for my English, German is my native language. PS: we don't have problems with the DEF system on our 2 724's here because the tractors are pretty busy and DEF systems need temperature to work properly. if the tractor doesn't have to work hard enough then it doesn't get warm enough and the problems start. Yes the cold also plays a role, DEF starts to freeze at -11C°.

i'm a fendt mechanic in germany, i think if you start working and driving the tractor immediately after starting it, there's a greater chance that all the oils and the cooling water will heat up and then the def tank will also thaw and you won't get an error message

I have used a Lincoln portable welder unit mounted on the back my service truck to start the service truck when it's 2 batteries failed from age and neglect and left me stranded on the side of a freeway .. I tell ya 16volts and 90amps from that welder sure made that 1985 Ford 6.9 power stroke diesel truck starter sing !! ;-} PS this was back in the early 1990's before cell phone use became common and rescues / help took hours or days ..

Engaging the pto when its that cold helps warm the hydraulic oil when its cold

Thanks for the video Mike. I will keep my old 1977 I H 986 with a 8 ft Leon dozer on the front of it. Hard to believe that the new tractors are so unreliable when it’s cold out.

3:28, hear that...CRISPY, lol, cheers!

Great video Mike

I’m thankful for heated equipment sheds 😬

I fixed my DEF problem on my diesel pickup…I ordered a new F250 7.3 gasser with 4:30 gears…no more expensive oil changes…no more injector trouble…no more stinky diesel smell…no more waiting forever for cab heat in the winter and no more DEF!!!

Mike, make your own battery cables out of welding cable, much better than commercial cables. You can also set up your pickup with a forklift electrical plug, you hook it directly to your battery with a foot or so of the welding cable and you have the other plug on one end of your jumper cables going to the tractor. Quick and easy hookup that way.

Put the heater really close and drive away. Lol

If the tractors are out of warranty you can get them re-mapped to get rid of the def. Illegal but effective. Def is not used in many other countries.

Beautiful here in Queensland Australia we don't have those problems cheers mate

I feel for you when dealing with cold start issues. I would seriously recommend you pay Princess Auto a visit and pick up a canvas tarp so you can wrap the engine area and place a tiger torch inside a piece of heavy wall steel pipe with a 90 Degree bend on the end and in a very short period of time the engine block will be toasty warm and the equipment will start very easily. Only need propane thus don't have to worry whether generator will start.

Mike, this is why Canadians go to Florida in the winter. Get with the program buddy! 😂😂😂

This tractor engine needs stronger starter and bigger battery ! Nice video ;)

Congrats. I just read where the Sask Government decided to do the right thing.

There are after market devices that help you override the def system when needed. Illegal, but does the trick

think its time to go back a few years and buy them older trackers. 2010-2015 or before def was even installed... START Hunting for that

I have a 1970 JD 4020. I pluG it in about an hour and it can't wait to start. If it's cold out I turn on the PTO on and warm it up 20 minutes and I am ready to go

Mike, I have another question. Would it be better to buy tractors that are 2009 or earlier, totally rebuild them, in order to remove the DEF issues?

Next year, make sure you park your tractors indoors, use the JD's 4840, 4640 you have on your farm.. Simple & reliable as always. I know you have a rush on new equipment, but see the results - A whole morning goes on starting a simle tractor!! Think about it, young man.

I had the same issue with My T-ruck and it was the Emission Control Valve Sensor

Lots of the DEF issues I've run across are caused by operating the tractors like this. With DEF systems you have to get in them and start operating it easy to warm it up rather than firing it up and going for lunch like on a pre emission tractor. With no load in cold temperatures the engine doesn't create enough heat to thaw the DEF tank out in the alloted time causing it to error out.

I know with some construction equipment if you cycle the master you can "soft reset" the code and get a few mins of full power

Mike, I've said it before. But you should look at putting your conex's together to make an L shape or get a 3rd one and make a U shape. Then look at putting a quonset hut over the top. It wont be a heated shop, but will help keep the wind and snow off when parted in the yard.

Damn. I can feel the pain from my home couch

I'd try to get them to buy that pile back, for the price of it you shouldn't have to spend half the day trying to just get it started.

Good luck with your def issues in your tractor and truck Mike

I think you need to build a cheap small shed to prevent this kind of problems :)

And we’re supposed to be going all electric within our life time ? 😂 I thought my jcb backhoe hated the cold , love the videos Mike , im from southern Ontario been watching for a while bought a 20 year old duramax in. Alvaro last may an drove it home stopped in swift current for a coffee on the way and found a fuel receipt in the cabin air filter from swift current in 2011 always wondered if it belonged to someone you knew

Here is my suggestion having several preheats myself . Add a heat coil to the transmission . That will solve the problem . I feel so sorry for 'Homesteaders" like yourself. . Back in 06 the first homesteaders built shops out of sod blocks for their fendts

I know it doesn't matter what I think but I totally agree with you about 'DEF' or 'AD-BLUE'. I don't see the purpose. It only seems to be a pain in the posterior. US, Canada, UK, Ireland. It's just stupid. There needs to be an override of some sort. You're right. QUESTION. Would it help to put a windbreak up and park the tractors in the opposite side from the prevailing wind?

Next time you buy a $400k tractors make sure it come with a manual cranking handle as standard 😁

Put solar power at that site. Put in sea-cans to form walls of a building, get a vinyl roof to go across the enclosure you made using sea-cans and you can have a 40' wide and deep shop. 6 sea-cans stacked 2 high and you have a 40' by 80' enclosed area to put your equipment in.

Mike, I'm really wondering about your patience!!!!!! In the meantime I'm really looking forward to see a new cabaret with the Fendt as a main caracter....LOL!!

You need a big machinery barn to keep them out of the harsh winter weather.

over half a meter of snow here in estonia also. 2-3 days ago 12 tons heavy forestry trailer almost went over the bridge because of a snow. luckily hydraulically adjustable drawbar and 4wd on a trailer got us out.

at this poit it would be less dramatic to just get an old Ford 8340 turbo, 1996-7with an loander. I'm telling you, that model is a beast in the cold

You can solve the truck problem by trading for GM hd with the 6.6 gasser. Giver a Cummins powered Versatile a try.

Time to get a handful of no def tractors for the winter maybe two c cans with a roof between them with some heat

New doesn’t mean better. This why some will rebuild tractors because they will work when needed 😂🤣😎

That fendt seems like one gigantic piece of “stuff”. I’ve also heard here in the USA that they are releasing basically delete codes for motors to dealers because they can’t get the parts to fix the def systems for at least a year.

I've got a Ford diesel pickup and a Kubota M7 152, no def issues with either one, I do have to run the Kubota at about 1600 rpms or higher when it's -30 plus to heat the def tank though.

Once warranty comes off put a delete kit in it

I have a few case pumas and live in NY... its been about 0 to negative 15 degrees Fahrenheit....with 2-3 preheat cycles with the key (30 seconds) it start very easily

Mike can you put a loop on one of the hydraulic services into the case drain and have that running to warm up the hydraulics quicker

Your one calm man Mike that your not seating around a fendt tractor up in flames.

I think Mike. its stay home with the Family till March first. Enjoy the winter

Other things with that Webasto, bad circulation rute, in army days, tank Webasto would heat whole engine and transmission in few min from minus tem to 60c engine....

I was unfortunately correct. I remember commenting on your video when you first bought your Chevy and saying we had all sorts of problems with our L5P, idling, injector, fuel pump and DEF issues. Glad we’re not the only ones to have that problem lol. Good luck 🍀

Mike you need to get grill covers to help keep heat in the engine and stop fan dragging cold air it will also stop your def errors

I've heard people using a heat wrap like you use on pipes wrapped around def tank use splitter at engine block plug to run both at same time

if your starter is accessible, you can put a jumper right to the starter. That helps if your starter cable is too small, which I think might be an issue.

Have 2003 dodge 35oo love it runs no def put trans fluid to keep it lubicratit works great.

Bring a Bert up to the north farm then you will have a tractor that starts!!

Don't let these new emissions tractors idle very long or they will give problems. If you leave them for more than 5 minutes Rev it up to 13-1400. Keeps the engine warm and oil pressure up.

Mike, I struggle at times in cold temps with batteries in Nebraska, USA let alone what you deal with. I'm surprised you have the luck you do.

Fendt needs to update their starter/batteries/cables. It should crank faster than that

Thanks Ralph Nader