I say top 3

NyRangersfan1357 But mackinnon is getting up there in age. He's 23 and that speaks a lot about the economics of football.

Anyone but matthews but your right

@@TylerSmith-lu3tr Mackinnon is the better cheaper player

Matthews hasn’t even scored 70 ur on drugs if you think he’s better than Mac. And mac is only like 3 years older

Before I went to this, I thought to myself that I'll probably pick Marner most of the time comparing to other wingers. But both Pastrnak and Rants gave me pause and I decided against Marner on both times.

@@mysticsaxophone4181 ha. Its leafs tv. They only picked a couple. Maily east. How about mention these guys also on tsn and not biased and see. Marner is on a team with high end pp and scoring and didnt reach a 100 points. kucherov128, draisaitl105, kane110, gaudreau99, point92, huberdeau92, aho83, seguin80, stone73. Put any 1 of these guys in marners spot and they would all have better numbers except maybe draisaitl and kucherov cause there playing with better players. Marner is good tho. he deserves 10mill. Hes more valuable then matthews imo. Hes a winner an always has been. But tsn is to biased so it ends like this....fuck the leafs

If he wants to compare his asking price to center then lets compare him. I didn't see Marner playing 3rd line C when we needed it... Nylander and Marner are closer in value just because Nylander has C experience

@@waleah4855 if you listened they said these are just the close ones and they hadnt done the west yet. In the full segment before Ferraro they said Kuch etc etc and picked Kuch, those are obvious ones hence they didnt need Ferraro to settle the vote. So how about fuck you and you're non comprehending ass. And only 2 players since 1990 have a better goal per game rate in their first 3 years. Kariya and OV. Ones a hall of famer the other is arguably the NHLs best ever pure goal scorer. There is no way Marner is more valuable than Matthews. Marner had JT Matthews had what this year? A guy who had 1 primary assist in his career in Kap and a rookie or old man Marleau and he STILL beat marner in 5v5 points per minute. Change your name man you cant talk sports.

@David Marner 94 points Pasternak 81 points Conclusion: Pasternak is levels above Marner. Levels above.

@1212jj Ray is the best part of the World Jr coverage. His bean has a boatload of hockey knowledge. I'm surprised he's not a coach or GM

Who did the hosts sleep with to get to where they are???

Loui! So he can keep the player bench warm

Loui Eriksson ur 🚮🚮🚮

Loui Eriksson loui

Marner

This question is offensive to Mitch Marner

I’d take Marner over Matthews, so yeah

AOB LOL Good thing you aren’t a GM

@@ChadFosterExplores Marner has been healthier, produced more points per game, and by all accounts has been a better leader than Matthews, but yeah, LOL!

Matthews is a great player. But he’s not a player you build your team around he’s an amazing compliment player. Similar to a malkin. Matthews won’t be in Toronto for more then 3 more years. He’s not a guy that wants to lead a team or deal with the media like he has to in Toronto. Marner is the guy that would stay for his whole career.

AOB lol not true. Marner is .92 ppg and Mathews is .97 ppg. Goals marner .27 gpg Mathews .52. Even with Matthews injuries he has 111 goals, Marner has 67. I get why you love Marner I do too, he’s just not as good as Matthews sorry dude.

Gene Krobel i say give marner what hes looking for, unless hes just looking to move, which i doubt... then trade nylander... won't happen overnight but it doesn't have to, i don't he think he cares enough, think they are going to regret that deal!

If Marner accepts an offer sheet over $11m then the Leafs should let him walk, take all the 1st rd picks, and use cap space to strengthen the defence. Or maybe sign Kapanen or Johnsson.

Lol maybe if you said leafs have been so starved for quality D, ppl think Reilly is more than he is, your comment wouldn't be so laughable

@@reyhaze5044 Yeah your right Marner has been great the last few playoffs. Just cause you print lol does not make you smart dummy.

Leafs are stacked at forward, your low IQ comment makes no sense

Marner has had an outstanding playoff and a mediocre playoff over the last 2. Nothing you say makes any sense because you're an unintelligent waste of life

when the fuck did larkin score 94 points? marner was drafted fourth overall in a draft with mcdavid and eichal before him. ur on good drugs

And it’s just getting started every year in Toronto there’s a word that is in every article it was Nylander now it’s marner lol

Dan Schaal Dude I'm a jets fan and I think hayes is a great player, but not worth that much. However hayes did get the most points out of any player acquired at the trade deadline. I hope he plays like he's worth 5 million for your guys sake.

You must not pay attention they tried and were told by Marner's agent we aren't talking until the season is over it was well reported.

That was Lou. He should have signed him at 7 mil and Nylander at 6 mil but he wanted to wait cause he thought their value would drop. He's the one who signed Marleau at 6.25 mil too. He left Dubas with a shit show to deal with.

The thing is he’s a fuckin star in Toronto, do you see how many commercials he does, playing in this market will make up for a million or two that he could get else where

There isn't a team in the league that will pay anything close to what the leafs are offering. All this talk about offer sheets is fake news by talking heads to have Toronto fans tuning in to there shows. What organization would make an offer sheet of 11+ for Marner? How many teams are willing to pay Marner 11 million and give up 4 firsts for the privilege. What would that do to their salary structure? Just because leafs are willing to overpay doesn't mean other teams will. He was eleventh in scoring, in what universe is he worth more than all the players ahead of him other than McDavid?.

I don’t think he’s even the second best forward on his team

Mathews already got paid, the fact Mathews is better has been established. That’s why they aren’t talking about it.

For sure

@@DeathWish1974 I second, for sure that!

Top 5 winger maybe... But you really think he will be top 5 in the league... ahead of McDavid, Matthews, McKinnon, Eichel, Dahlin... Hughes, Pasta, Point, Petterson. He's arguably less value than Barzal, Larkin, Aho. Werenski, Chabot, The only players he should get paid like is Rantanen and Laine. 9m value in this market.

Mike 17 u wack

Marner makes everybody else better!

Wowtepentepz Wow so he’s only a million dollars a year better than Kevin Hayes?

@@mikemontana1990 hey its not the leafs fault philly was dumb enough to give hayes 7 mill a year...

Wowtepentepz Wow you’re right it’s not the leafs fault. But trust me, it will Be their problem.

Youd put up 10 goals playing with Sid

Chris Rowsell facts

Guentzel is not that good imo. Not in the Marner, Rantanen, Pastrnak level.

mothefucker was a leafs fan growing up. how can you not take a discount grrrr

Jvdubz jvdubz Eichels hit or miss though, depends how he develops. Marners proved what he can do.

@@hockeyislife4122 idk, I feel like you have to consider who he's around too. If Eichel had JT, Matthews, Nylander, Kapenen etc.... theres a reason like 70 of Marners points are assists

Jvdubz jvdubz I'm not toronto fan so I'm not trying to sound bias, and I agree that marner plays with better players. But if you watch highlights marner is ALWAYS the one driving the play on his line and creating the chances, the fact he has finishers definitely helps.

@@hockeyislife4122 very true, its definitely not to say that hes not great, I just wonder if hes worth THAT kind of money when compared to players making a great deal less but still putting up good numbers, will be interesting to see where this goes!

Eichel isn’t hit or miss, the guy has put up 201 in his last 203 and always faces the best shutdown players, eichels never had a linemate get over 63 Pts!! Eichel is Better it’s not close

That would be a stupid ass move

I think he said PK

Gotta wait a few years to see

I think Pettersson has a higher ceiling, but Marner right now

Pettersson.

Petterson

Pettersson

I wouldn't, Kucherov is a great player but as we saw in this playoffs he has that Kadri mentality. Fuck the team, we're going to lose anyway kinda thing.

Dylan Jones What did Marner do in playoffs this year? Kucherov has had a bunch of outstanding playoffs. 31 playoff goals in 65 games

Josh Kramer and he only signed for 9.5 million while Marner who had a poor playoffs wants 11-12

@@charlieb308 I can't deny that Kuch has a proven track record but it's clear that when his team faces adversity, he mails it in. Marner's line was against Bergeron's and they chose a more defensive style for that line. With that type of talent, yes I agree they should have been able to put up points. The problem is, that Bergeron line was experienced and just that damn good.

marner only 21

I love Marner, but he's asking way too much.

DjVanHeb He has every right! Wtf!

@@danh4435 he can ask, sure but he's dilusional if he thinks he is in the same tier as Matthews and JT. Both are elite goal scoring centres which is way more valuable than a playmaking winger. I love Mitch but JT did his thing before Marner and he could do it without him again. Marner cannot put up 90+ without a JT.

Yeah it's way too much but that's what happens when you overpay JT and mathews by so much

ParadingWolves wtf u talking about. Marner makes everyone good around him. Marner had close to 30 goals. Boston said it themselves only player we worried about was marner. This guy is underrated because he wasn't first overall. Mathews misses 30 games a season lol. Marner shouldn't take a discount he should get what he deserves. The man had most points two consecutive years as a leaf. Highest points. That doesn't just happen. We won't find another like marner but we can find another like Mathews easily.

he would be the comparable...but marner was the way better player in junior....

@@jacobbrown1690 and Point is the way better pro 😁

Praise be to The Phil.

Depends on what you need.

Marner

Not really close is it though ...

I would personally rather have Tkachuk. 77pts in 80 games last year is nothing to sneeze at. Just my opinion

I predict he will be 75 points next year

Tavares won nothing and never made it past the 1st round.

Leafs still got Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Kadri, Rielly. Offense will be fine. Use money to strengthen defence. Pay for Marner's taxi to the airport

@@ldaws-3912 LMAO, I think they should've never signed Nylander tbh.

@@UBSDREAMZz Nylander is why this is happening. And Dubas was a bonehead for resigning him

how bout now?

@@bofadeese2715 no different, he got 10 less points in 15 fewer games. Not his fault the D and harter collapsed. Next year will be better

Matthews bc position matters and elite goal scoring is more rare/more valuable, and Matthews is scoring at the 5th best rate in the history of the nhl throughout a players first 3 seasons (era adjusted). Plus bc throughout their first 3 seasons he lead the team in points per 60 in all of them.

Matthews is also injury prone.... Marner is like a pinball he bounces off of everywhere.... if these guys don't win a cup with this current roster in the next 5 years.... then they never will again. That Ballard ruined it all for this franchise. MLse is already rich anyway

Matthews

Showtimedave What makes you go for Matthews?

@@jjodoin05 Better goal scorer and he's a centre.

Marner

Interesting cause numbers wise its very close, but the deciding factor could simply be age. Also you could say Marner does have better talent around him were as Johnny carries Calgary offensively.

marner is almost four inches taller and just as fast and shifty. marner is also better defensively.

Close but I'm taking Marner

spitballing season

Its interesting

Nylander is not overpaid. He signed for market value. And when he scores 75 points next year no one will say a PEEP. Signing Tavares was what changed everything for the leafs. Not to say it was a bad signing, but it really put a wrench in the 5 year plan the leafs had.

@@Gobblerster I really think the yardstick for salary should include if you've won or excelled at your position. So this means most NHL players are overpaid.

@@Gobblerster Lou started to build Leafs after nobody wanted to play for Toronto. Marlou, Matthew, Tavares. Losing Lou, Marlou and Marner would put Leafs back for 15 years.

Nylander is not over paid. Kevin hayes is over paid, eberle is over paid, Nelson is overpaid, skinner is overpaid.

I really don't know why people say Dubas overpaid and caved in got Nylander. Remember his comparables are in the $6-7 range while Nylander camp was seeking Drasaitl money (8.5 per season). Ultimately Nylander signed much closer to his comparables and what the Leafs were initially offering than what he was asking for.

I would take Meier personally just because of size and strength.

@@thejoel3210 I'm with you about to Timo Meier

meier before marner are you drunk ? marner 94 points and can play on short handed . you are dumb

marner out played timo in the memorial cup game and timo tried to cheap shot him all game. marner also won MVP...

Marner easily

Larkin for sure.

Marner for me, Larkin is very underrated though.

Larkin, no question. It wouldn't be fair to marner if they're comparing contracts too, bc then it's not just Larkin, its larkin + a 50+60 point player to 1 mitch marner contract.

Yeah but he trades for new york rangers then they get who devils dont pick i say rangers would do it

nope...no garrantee kakko or huges become 94 point players at 21

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You're funny

@@awineguy4715 looks like the jokes on you :)

@@JaneNayes how so ?? please give me your wisdom oh great one on how the wonder of EP exceeds Marner. I wait in great anticipation because there are no wiser hockey sages than those who cheer for the Canucks, Please, teach me.

@@awineguy4715 lol?

MacKinnon over Marner isnt even close

Lol always one moron in the comments 🤣

I would take Marner over all of them except for Rantanen

Agreed. Marner is over-rated and soon to be over-paid. Leafs fans are all high from sniffing their own farts.

@@cal8362 point and aho are first line centers, worth way more. Educate yourself.

@@brenden9758 i dont care what their position is, they are not as good. That is like saying Turris is better than Ovi because he is a center, dumbass

Brian Jones marner. Leafs don’t need any goal scorers. Would be Interesting tho

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

just remember 94 points . DUMMY

@Joe M barzal 62 points MINUS 6 . HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA Marner 94 points + 22 ! i hope you are drunk bro ! just fucking use BRAIN

@@JasonBlackburn_02 That's cuz the isles are defensive minded team, and barzal basically had to carry the team. If you watched the islanders at all you'd see barzal basically dominated TOP and just in general when he was on the ice. Barzal aint a primma donna like marner

condescendingsmile just cause Barzal never passed the puck doesn’t mean he’s a good possession player LOL

marner and mcdavid lol....tear up the league

Woooosh

so hes less than skinner..... right....

he's worth 9.5, not 7.

FE4R x DEMoN maybe so. I can see 8 or even 8.5. But anything over 9 is too much IMO. He’s not a center and has a career high of 26 goals in a season. The obsession just doesn’t add up.

Would love to see your team as a GM when u offer that low on players worth alot more.

Not his fault his team can't get past the first round, you shouldn't put that on Marner it's a team sport. Not one player can carry his team to a championship. He's an elite player and will be for year's to come. As a Leafs fan he has definitely carried the offence through stretches like the 18 season when Matthews got hurt. He was our best forward in the 2018 playoffs. He was arguably the leafs best player this season. And he deserves way more than 7 million especially when you see lesser players like Hayes and Skinner get a big payday. He deserves 8-9.5 mill overral.

I'm a Toronto fan and tbh I don't mind if he gets offer sheeted. Saves us 11mil plus it gives us 4 extra first round picks. That 11mil can go towards better defensemen. Our offense is pretty set.

Eichel is not franchise. End of story

Franchise player if you never want to make the playoffs!

all 3 of them are

Andrew Shaw... 😂😂😂😂 He's a goon.

Alzner over Reilly amirite?

if the leafs pay Marner any more 9 million $ pre year. there all a bunch of rejected retards . trade for first round picks . i do like Marner . but not enough to han-cuff the leafs for years . this will tell how smart, or stupid . Shany and Dabus are .

i think barkov is a bit better, tho both are so good that they are so close to each other.

@@Alexandros.Mograine Barkov is very smooth and controls the puck well, very Mario/Malkin like. I still have to give the edge to McKinnon as he's the only player I've seen since Sid that can play like him.

William Stewart sure, i just dont agree

mostly all centers there, as far as wingers only mackinnon and kuch and kane stand out as better

forgot a few more, Kane, Barkov, Boston's top line, Mackinnon, Malkin, Eichel, Drai, Giroux, and scheifele

Let’s wait one more Year of EP

I feel the same, the rumour I heard was an offer sheet for 11m from the islanders. 4 unprotected firsts from a team that is not at all guaranteed to make the playoffs is definitely worth it in my opinion

u will never get another like marner....he will come back and haunt the leafs

marner is actually the best player between matthews, nylander and himself. he plays with heart, sacrifices his body, kills penalties, and gives you over 1 ppg and dubas completely fucked himself up with matthews and nylander contracts, both with less heart and doesn't know how to play in their own zone. marner thinks he is just as worthy as matthews and i don't blame him. he's the type of player who helps you win in the playoffs.

Skinner is 27 bud

Camping Jason skinner has never scored more than 63 points in a season

Skinners leaf comparable is Nylander. if you go by point in their entry level contact they are the exact same, and Skinners career high is only 2 more than Nylanders.

Lmfao same age 😂😂 how is 28 and 21 the same? Guy is high as fuck

whoever is willing to be more affordable. So probably Point

Point and it's not even close

wtf

Its not that simple. Marner has Tavares on his line. That accounts for a decent amount of his huge points gain this year. Matthews was injured. Matthews puts up more goals.

Matthew's has a .97 ppg and marner is .93. Matthew's puts up more points and is a top line center. Marner is a winger and should not be the highest paid one in the league.

rsx123 he was doing it before Tavares arrived. Tavares also had a career year for goals so I would argue Marner made him better

daniel larkin I’m not saying he should be the highest paid in the league. Also that proves my point more, who cares about PPG all that proves is Matthews plays less games. How is less games played better

@@AL-31 Matthews has had some injury trouble but if he plays a full season and maintains his ppg, he is the better player and should be paid more. Marner wants more than 10.5 million a year whcih means he would be the highest paid winger in the league.

Trippin Out ya ok man 😂

SMOKE ANOTHER DUBIE IDIOT.

Agreed. Marner is over-rated and soon to be over-paid. Leafs fans are all high from sniffing their own farts.

Tripping out you're an idiot plain and simple if you think petersson is a better player than auston Matthews

Pasta every time.

As a Leafs fan I always saw Pasta as a good player with great line mates, am I wrong?

@@KDzTrIcKzz Pasta would score 30-40 goals with any linemates if also given power play time. He's still underrated and under paid.

@@KDzTrIcKzz I love Pasta, but I view him as the third best player on his line whereas everytime I watch good ole Tronnah play, it seems Marner drives the play whenever he's on the ice, over Tavares, Matthews, etc. I haven't seen him enough to make any concrete judgement, but the only two players that made me hold my breath seemingly every time they had the puck last year against the B's were MArner and Mikko Rantannen

Just like he took It too seriously you’re taking his comment too seriously man

How is he to blame?

really bob, you are an absolute idiot!!!! i would hope that mitchy gets an offer sheet at 11,000,000 and leafs walk away and receive 4 1st rounders. with the savings we can get that YOUNG STUD RHD

so don't listen

@@awineguy4715 i wont. I will laugh as i did this year when they lost in the first round. I am just saying there are 30 other teams they could report on.

Another individual whining about TSN reporting on one of the biggest clubs from one of the biggest markets. How original. There is nothing more tiresome than the brainless hordes of "look at me, I'm so cool because I hate the Leafs" crowd that flock to videos like this like flies to cow feces. And I'm Stars fan btw, but the Marner situation is a pretty big deal at the moment.

As a swede I agree