that's Atari management for you.

@@Goddot Atari moment💀

He covers that in the video. No ring outs. Instead, the person pushed to the edge is electrocuted.

Honestly its amazing how despite how much the marketing campaign built up how powerful the Jaguar was it was woefully under-powered in almost every aspect.

@@tinkerer3399 Electrocution is way cooler than just "ah oh no I fell off the ring!" Even if one could argue that its maybe a tad too dark having the fighter just convulsing there while the winner is just posing, just make it where they get zapped and then blasted back onto the ring with a normal knockout animation and its still better than just falling.

@@plasmaoctopus1728 The rumor I heard is Atari got the unfinished version of the game because they refused to pay the devs who worked on it.

It was amazing how good Tekken 2 came out considering the first game was very average. But then they set the bar with the sequel. Edit: or was that Tekken 3? I can't remember now...

Not even close to the same, but your statement reminds me of how I defended Jedi Power Battles to the death. Going back and playing it as an adult made my mind palace crumble to the ground

We played WarGods on N64. We weren't proud of it but we played it, gosh darn it.

@@rna151 there's a blast from the past. Think I had it on PC. It was... Yeah it was something.

It is amazing how good Tekken 2 is. 2, 3, and tag is like the greatest streak of fighting games for one series. Then uh…it’s been more misses than hits.

Yeah, I thought for sure Sonic would be a bit later, lol. It was only by like a day or something. :p

@@MattMcMuscles Shadow War of Succession is the worst

Peak character design

Mmmmmmmmmm...........Pringles

That's to achieve maximum chip damage

A Jaguar mini would be nice, maybe even with homebrew support and sd slots

It does show that Bertrand did work in framing and camera work for Virtua Fighters.

I’ll take a look, if it’s really good looking, then that’s probably the exception that proves the rule.

I always thought the issue was design as much as anything, even if there was power, Atari didn't have the resources to polish anything, no major studio was still doing 1-person dev teams at the time except Atari. Some of the issues like the general slowness, were design choice by Bertrand, not Jaguar limitations.

And sometimes you get nostalgic for things you don't even like...

speaking of, i LOVED stunt race FX even though it was jank as hell.

Yup, you just made me remember that game too. Still better than FFL.

Yeah, same. A fun fact about FX Fighter is that here in Germany, a magazine accidentally put *the full version* on its cover disc instead of the demo, lol. That's the reason why it was my 2nd-most played PC-exclusive fighter back in the day (#1 being the legitimately good OMF 2097, of course.) It was actually my very first introduction to 3D fighters, since all my friends and I only got 3D capable consoles later, and because arcades were basically illegal here (well, restricted to ages 18 and up). I really hope Matt covers that game, eventually.

​@@gouravchakraborty9801 Nah, it was actually made by Argonaut software, the French company who developed both the original Star Fox and the Super FX chip (and also Stunt Race FX). FX fighter was supposed to be the 3rd official "FX"-title for the SNES, but delays and technical issues lead to them switching to the PC as a lead platform - and as unimpressive as the game is today, it was definitely *way* beyond the SNES's capabilities (the graphics were actually kinda decent for its time, tho the gameplay was... not.) The company actually has a really interesting history - their original claim to fame was developing Starglider for the Atari ST in 1986, which had genuinely impressive and smooth 3D graphics for its time (especially when compared to Elite, which came out 2 years earlier and was pretty much the gold standard for 3D graphics back then). Unfortunately, after their Super FX era, they pretty much only released stinkers - except for Croc (an ok 3D platformer for the PS1), and the first two PS1 Harry Potter games; which I've never played, but are apparently surprisingly good. But they had been acquired by EA by at this time, and after developing a few more flops, were shut down. A tale as old as time, sigh.

Out of curiosity, do flashcarts peform the same as the real deal, ir there are some differences like in emulation?

@@XxRipperRooXx same as cart version of game, not emu, it plays rom

I loved AVGN's review on that "Console". Especially the wrestling game. "I like pie! I like to have pie every day!"

Wouldn't it dethrone criticom and all the other current grandmasters of trash due to the load times alone? Especially considering for a console game in 2006 and not on something where everything loaded slow like the Commodore.

@@mr.awesome6011 Eh, they just didn't want it to collect dust.

Remembering what else was out in arcades in 1987, SF was fine. Is it good by modern standards, mechanics-wise? No. Compared to other games from back then, however... well, there was a reason I pumped a lot of quarters in the SF cab by my house, as 12 year old me liked it.

Back in the day me and my brother really got into Heavy Nova. It's a hard game to like but once you grasp the weird mechanics it begins to become playable in 2 player. Don't bother playing as the pink blobot though called Trol. It is shit...

DEAR GOD I saw a friend of my play that game and it looked AWFUL. The sound, the looks, the mechanics...I just...can't help but wonder what happened.

First fighting game I played where I wondered if I just sucked or if the game was that bad. It's a shame because it looked good for a pre-SF2 game and the soundtrack was alright. Should've known better than to expect anything good from Micronet.

I tried Heavy Nova for the Genesis and while overall it's a game where there isn't a lot of depth in terms of abilities, I found it rich in that regard compared to the rubbish in Rise Of The Robots. (Even the robot's thrusters have unlimited energy and become comfortable to control compared to other games with mechanics like Ranger X and ESWAT, this is a personal complaint) The Side-scroll sections are frustrating but it is something that can be tolerated, in combat it has the problems of another similar game, Cyborg Justice, where the animations predominate over the dynamism of the game. But now add what I said about thrusters and things will get better. Even so, the game is below any "fighting game" of the time. (Too bad, I think the rest of the problems already know everything)

Tempest 2000 was on PC, PS1, and Saturn I believe. I think the ps1 version was called Tempest X3

That is the story that I also heard.

Do you have a source for that? Or is it just rumors? Here is an interview with the head developer from 2019, and his version is, "we had to cut things and rush the game, if we didn't, it wouldn't have been released at all." www.arcadeattack.co.uk/francois-bertrand/

@@MattMcMuscles I read it on forum boards in the early 2000s. If he came out and said it wasn't true, then I don't have any reason to not believe him.

@@MattMcMuscles Larry Bundy Jr and Hardcore Gaming 101 both mention it.

@@tinkerer3399 You are correct that they are not direct sources. They are where the idea that the developer was not paid for the final product has been propagated, Bundy Jr. in my opinion being the more visible of the two.

Wait didn't he play that when he cameod in a Stop Skeletons video.... actually wait no I conveniently forgot too.. guess another video will have to be made 🤷

Thank god someone else noticed that. We're just skipping past brazenly ripped Linda Hamilton? In several senses of the word "ripped?" If it wasn't just made-up by the GameFAQs author, that is the most shameless T2 reference in any video game... which is saying something.

UV I remember, not because of anything in the game itself, but because Tips & Tricks magazine ran a short blurb on how to do a secret Fatality in that game. Well, it wasn't a *Fatality*

@@universalperson it might have been a "poopality". That is a secret move in Ultra Vortek.

Yep. I covered that last year.

I searched your channel after commenting on it and found it. Glad you liked the giant Skull move too 💀 it was pretty awesome. Growing up on Killer Instinct I immediately picked him before playing as Batch. As an adult I know it says "beat you ahp!" But as a kid I thought it was foreign or something. Reeshu Wrath is what I thought it said 🤣