Every pilot's worst nightmare: Guided missile with unlimited fuel

"I guess if they ran out of flares, the WSO could've armed his seat, jumped out, and been his own flare." - Mover. LOL

“If it’s behind you, it’s gonna hit you...” unless you’re in an SR-71

The scene showing the intricacies of the ejection process was a really cool piece of film-work.

I've got to say, I'm becoming a big fan of Mover Ruins Movies! Do keep doing them!

I was on the Vinson when this movie was filmed. We were doing flight ops off the coast of Mexico for this. We got to stay at sea for two extra weeks to shoot the movie, not a lot of happy campers for that. There are only a couple of spots on the carrier footage that are real, they had some made up rooms that are not on the carrier. First off, safety wise and hate to ruin it, but no one would ever be allowed to hold the football for the rabbit to hit. Got to meet some of the actors which was cool. We did get to watch the movie on a big make shift screen on the island, while we we at sea...that was exciting.

I was stationed onboard the Carl Vinson when they shot the movie. Owen Wilson never gave back my shop's mickey mouse ears from when he went onto vultures row to watch flight ops. My Divo actually made it into the movie. She is the one that walks up to Gene Hackman on the flight deck and says he is needed in the SCIF.

Admiral Gene Hackman was having flashbacks to when he ejected and was trapped behind enemy lines in the film " Bat-21 ".

My very close friend who was a WSO in the Navy in F/A-18s went through full flight school. He later became a test pilot for F/A-18s too.

That comment " the back seater should eject and become a flare" hilarious and shows what some pilots really think about WSOs lol

“Laces out!! Finkle is Einhorn” I bout died 😂😂😂

Ditching multiple SAMs until he was just overwhelmed would have been way more exciting.

That Viper HUD footage was insane! I can only imagine the adrenaline that guy must have had. It had me on the edge if my seat lol.

Review Iron Eagle next! Is it possible to single-handedly take out a nation’s Air Force and oil supply in one F-16 while listening to Queen?

"Back in the day" it was not unusual for a pilot to get stuck in a WSO or GIB seat. (which you can guess how the GIB felt). Usually it was a temporary situation because of Vietnam manning and training requirements. I saw an O-3 pilot with low F4 time, sitting behind an experienced high time first lieutenant. It didn't last long, but it was a SH flight lead and the capt. had just arrived from phantom training. The O3 was driving within 3 weeks.

I always had the feeling that the main character from GTA IV was made after the bad guy on this movie...Both are way too similar to be a coincidence

Damn that F16 footage is intense - anyone else tense up a little watching it?

Would be cool to get a break down of that F-16 getting fired upon or the F-14 engaging those MiG-23s in 1989.

And Owen yelling out no when the pilot is shot in the head would be a huge NO-NO totally alerted bad guys to his presence

I've seen that F16 video before...watched it probably 50 times by now, lol. Loving this MRM thing you've been doing, keep up the awesome work!

Do F14's vs Zero's from The Final Countdown. Jolly Rogers.

Even though I'm an army guy (served 11 yrs as an officer in the US army 2000-2011), I really enjoy your channel! I remember during my tour in Iraq an F-14 (before they were retired) was coming back from a bombing mission I guess and had seen our little FOB on his flight in and on his flight back he he decided to give us a little show. He came down really low and gave us a big boom!!! It was aways but scared the shit out of some of the guys because they didn't know what was going on. I was a always a HUGE fan of attack helicopters, especially the Apache because I have seen them in action in real combat. I those bastards will fuck you up and you won't even know they are circling over your head lol. I'm a fan of the movie Fire Birds lol.

Your channel was in my recommendations. Don’t know why, I’ve watched 4 of your videos. I’m now subscribed.

I watched this movie with my best friend when I was young, we were huge into fighter jets as young boys often are, and I loved it. Now, this might be a bit of nostalgia blinding me, even though I can see the flaws of it more now, I still like it. Especially the chase scene, which I watched again entirely just now, and even with the knowledge that the missiles have infinite fuel, it's 1000% riveting. Because they had a real jet flying through a real valley, it doesn't matter how fake the missiles are, it feels visceral. At the end of the day, it's a movie, not a training video on what to do if you get targeted in a fighter jet by a SAM site, so I can forgive a lot of those flaws.

I saw Mover Ruins Movies and clicked so fast my finger was moving at Mach 1.4 when it hit the mouse button...

Loving the "Mover Ruins Movies" reviews. I'll throw another vote in for Iron Eagle reaction. Looked around an F-16B intercom and couldn't find the 1/8th inch audio input for my cassette player. ;)

They were conducting an no fly zone over Bosnia, same route every day.

Seriously just found your channel today when I watched your video on the movie Flight and I instantly subscribed when you said "giggity" about max speed turbulent penetration.....But the "Laces out!" comment....Dude you are seriously becoming one of my heros!

They could have changed his role from a pilot to a wiso in the last moment. But what I think is more likely, is that the film makers don't have a clue, and think that wisos are full fledged pilots who take the wiso role as needed.

“But you became a WSO” 🤔 😂

Just stumbled across this , you got a new sub and fan !! Currently binge watching your playlist rn

I only found out about Mover this morning and working my way through all his Ruins Movies. I'm finding them fascinating. Thanks C.W. 👍🏽 From the UK.

This was a really good movie. Gene Hackman is always great. His role in Crimson Tide is better, but this was was pretty close.

Flight of the Intruder would be a good one.

The ace Ventura quote made me laugh way more than it should 😂 love your videos man! Keep em coming 👍🏻

"and obviously you wouldn't be dogfighting the missile." You. Don't. Know. Me. LOL

Love this new series! I think Behind Enemy Lines is very entertaining. The beginning of the movie, what you covered here, is the best part of the movie. Nothing will ever take the place of the Tomcat in my heart, but this movie puts the Hornet up there close. I know your expertise probably doesn't cover dogfighting UFOs, but please do Independence Day!😁

U gotta do those "Iron Eagle" movies

I was on the Vinson when they filmed it. Actually I'm in one of the scenes, but literally just for a few seconds. Have some friends that were in some longer shots. The Super Hornet flying footage was cool. It was fun to be part of the making of it, but I never liked this movie. They used real USMC Huey's when they did the shots on the boat and then switched to a mix of other Huey variants for the scenes on land. I always think it's lame when movies makers think no one will notice the aircraft switch. CVNs don't normally have Huey's onboard, so I enjoyed working with them. I guess no one cares except the people that care about that stuff, lol.

Your videos are awesome!!!! Grew up as a navy brat who's dad was on a carrier. I always looked at stuff and been like " that wouldn't happen " it is so funny to watch you react!!!!

I just hit the like button on your videos before even watching them anymore cause I already know they're gonna be good lol. Seriously, great video man! Thx

I was was talking to a young man who wanted to be a fighter pilot but has less than perfect vision and so assumed he wasn't qualified. I got to use your motto: "Make them tell you no" and encouraged him to apply and gave him your channel.

First of, I love the channel. Being someone who knows very little about planes and what they and their pilots can do, your channel is a goldmine. I also realise how much of the stuff in movies, has got nothing to do with reality. 😂. BUT this is very informative and interesting. Good work C.W. Keep it up.

I love this scene...glad i found your channel!!

When Owen Wilson is getting dressed down, I thought I was watching a remake of Top Gun. Love "Mover Ruins Movies." Subscribed!

Additionally, thank you for explaining the Ejection process to put it in a good perspective. Not many people understand just how intense it is. One last thing I forgot to critique: the black box is part of the aircraft, not the seat, so the whole plot twist for the end of the movie is BS. Love, A friendly neighborhood Rocket Chair Repairman.

I enjoyed watching the RFMDS footage at Nellis AFB, Red Flag back in the 80's. Saw some interesting safety videos. An F-4 merging with an F-16 and they clipped wings. The F-16 lost its right wing, pilot ejected and was ok. The F-4 Flew back to Nellis with slight damage. Also the Engagement tapes from the SAM/AAA sites was amazing. Especially explaining to an A-6 pilot how he got toasted by a AAA with the cross hairs locked onto his helmet for 4 seconds as the gun was firing.

Excellent!! Excellent!! Thank you very much for your analysis of this movie, my favorite to this day! Great your analysis and explanation of the missiles. I'll keep waiting for your videos! Cheers

Yeah, I enjoyed this movie too. Incidentally, the production was sued be Scott O'Grady for using story elements without his permission. But, yeah, I remember the scene with the missiles and thinking "what kind of missiles are those that pull all of those maneuvers?" Former SAM operator here and remember how our missiles pretty much ended their boost phase within a few seconds and would coast in a ballistic trajectory after that. Although they did have guidance, but we were told that they had at most one turn in them.

The real F16 footage was actually more thrilling than the scene from the movie. I could feel the pilot's anxiety whoa.

Really good video! Your channel rocks! Keep up the good work!

I was a Marine on the USS Kearsarge when Scott O'Grady was rescued. That was a good day.

It's interesting to read about how awards were given during the Vietnam war. I had a brief correspondence with the son of Captain Henry Halleland who was my uncle's XO and then CO of the VF-114. He received multiple awards of the DFC primarily for dodging the SA-2 while flying for the VF-114. When I was reading about Robin Olds, he described dodging the SA-2 as very easy and Business As Usual / all in a day's work.

The "behind enemy lines" scenes were shot in Zadiel/Haj, Slovakia! Nice region, with many MTB trails.😉✈

SUPERB REACTION! VERY INFORMATIVE AND SO DETAILED ON MILTARY TERMS, NOT SURPRISED THOUGHT CAUSE IT'S COMING FROM A SEASONED AND WELL EXPERIENCED FIGHTER PILOT ! KEEP IT UP SIR !

Solid review, thanks dude!

Lack of realism aside, Behind Enemy Lines is one of my favorite films.

Would be cool if you could break down that F-16 video, comms/maneuvers and such

Really enjoyed your breakdown. Would like to see you do more movie reviews like this.

US Navy ATC here, love your breakdowns. Great video!

I loved this movie, I do remember in the theater thinking to myself "those are some damn efficient missiles" Cant go wrong with real jet footage and Gene Hackman is always fun to watch

1:50 Remember, always trim full right rudder and override fcs to fix flaps for landing before taking off from a carrier

Good recap, this came out right after I got my wings as a WSO/EWO, where’s the love? Spot on for the SAM engagement, laughed like crazy about how that missile engagement lasted that long.

I'm not a pilot, but USAF GCI controller and a Weapons School grad. We do this with EVERY military movie we watch. Just can't help it. I loved this video. Great commentary!

Your videos are great and we learn alot from you. It really tells that the job of a fighter pilot and the threats he faces in real world are far more greater than what we see in movies. But what I learnt from your videos that WSO does not have much work in the jets then why they are used? I mean single seater jets are better this way.

Good afternoon from a Britain free of Europe 😂🇬🇧

That Desert Storm video always gives me chills.

I instantly got chills when you played that real life footage....damn.

Man that real SAM movie was kind of nerv wracking. You could hear the fear in the pilots voice :O

Stackhouse survived the head shot because he became a lawyer in NYC. Suits told me so😂

I must have watched this epic sequence a million times now. It never get's old and is yet to be bettered. Screw the realism.

The HUD footage at the end "everyone wants to be a fighter pilot until you gotta do fighter pilot sxxx" you can tell the pucker factor was high there because the guys voice was getting high pitched. I used to see F-16 and A-10 landing at Ramstein AB from Spanghlem AB to get bombed up and head for KOSOVO. Former USAF aerospace ground support equipment tech here.

I actually love this movie lmao and the cinematography was sick!

MASTER ARM on the catapult... seems legit. 👍🤣

EOD here. I remember watching this during an ORE at Hill and we were cracking up at the world’s slowest SAMs and the little APERS mines that couldn’t. Great movie though!

Very cool. My uncle was on the USS Carl Vinson decades back when I was a kid. I remember him having photos of that ship all over his house.

Ive never flown any fighter but flipping the master arm switch when you’re about to go from 0-150 knots off the end of a boat doesn’t sound like a great idea, especially with all that carrier crew around.

Mover ruins movies needs to do "Into the Sun". Lots of F-16 and Mirage scenes.

That footage of the F-16 dodging all the SAMs still stresses me the hell out.

GREAT movie! And really shows the manouverabiilty of the Super F-18. Thank you C.W. Lemoine for your review!

Pilots treat wso like a office boss treats his secretary, pretty disgusting.

I've always loved that Iraq footage - maybe you could break that down? That'd be interesting.

Great video, shipmate! I worked the flight deck as a blue shirt and then red when I went DC.

Thanks for MST300ing it. I think the scene that stands out in my mind was when he stops the pickup truck and meets Elvis. I enjoyed the movie.

Le Chevalier Du Ciel please! Would love to see your take on that one. Or even Stealth, hahahaha!

I’d like to get your analysis on JAG. There’s lots of material there.

Loved the movie, I rewatch it every few years. Also happy you pointed out how overly dramatic the missile scene was.

Awesome, watches this movie over a dozen times over the years. Always thought to myself those missiles had way to much fuel to just keep on rolling lol! Keep up these reviews. Love them!

For some reason, I thought carrier qualifications went hand in hand with flying the Hornet. What is required to move on to carrier qualifications and why didn't you pursue it?

God, this movie suffers *hard* from '90s editing. That entire opening where we get the actor credit roll and all that is just nothing but FAST CUT FAST CUT RAPID PAN RAPID PAN It's a real product of its era and I think it's just dumb enough for me to love it

the build up was cool and the music playing when the superhornet gets done in was awesome

Interestingly the movie showed the camera that's normally mounted on the F/A 18 Hornet. That camera is made by Zeiss Optikal, Germany using 70mm roll film...not digital. Digital technology for that camera wasn't available at the time it was invented. I worked the final four years of the project (KS153B), 1996-2000. I worked directly for/under the Executive Vice President of Special Projects and he was the liaison between Zeiss and the US Navy. My job as Senior CADD engineer was translating the hundreds of blueprints from German into English. (I don't speak a word of German)! The resolution of that camera was so high it could read a license plate from a 12-mile slant angle...an amazing piece of optical equipment! Thank you for reviewing the movie...it gave me something to brag about. ::grinning::

can you please do a video on that clip of the guy dodging sams in real life and just break it down as much as you can

LOL "be his own flare"

It has been too long since I have seen it, so this gives me reason to see it again (thanks). I still have the DVD :-)

I really enjoyed it when i saw it 1st ages ago. Especially while the memory of what happened in the Balkan in the 90ths was still fresh.

“Nothing good can come from Thailand”... As an internet citizen, true, especially about the ladyboys. As a tourist who’s been, I disagree. But, y’know what, it’s content, it’s humorous, I love the content and the channel. Rock on man, keep doing whatcha do🤘🏽

When a missile misses,does it simply explode or just fall out of the sky and land as a dud?

I worked at a movie theater when Behind Enemy Lines came out. Absolutely loved it and own it on DVD. Wondering if you ever heard of a video game company from the 90's called Jane's Combat Simulations? I initially had US Navy Fighters '97, but then later got Fighters Anthology which includes US Navy Fighters '97 (where you could only fly Naval aircraft) and Advanced Tactical Fighters, where you could fly USAF aircraft as well as foreign aircraft. These included MiGs and Sukhois among others. It had a bunch of different game modes that were all really fun, too. I loved it.

In navy ROTC they played this movie to us pretty much on a constant loop.