First time? This is PART 8 of 8. Watch the full playlist here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iq6Voq6bu9Kqg6s.html Before you get triggered and say iT'S JuSt a MoViE or wHy dO yOu hAtE it.... relax, we know. this is Mover RUINS Movies. It's a fun breakdown/commentary/analysis with sarcasm, humor, and real world stories. We both loved the movie.

Hangman was the Ace Combat protagonist, equipped with a million rockets and bombs to basically fight the whole war by himself.

Hangman was late to the party because he ran the battery down while listening in on comms and needed a jumpstart.

"If everyone else fails, we'll just send Hangman to do the whole mission himself."

Best Mover line in this vid (5:06): “What was he the spare to, the whole war?!” Awesome.

Great to see Val Kilmer do his cameo appearance when he is in bad health. The scenes with Tom and Val in the movie was just what was needed and was the embrace of brothers.

It doesn't get mentioned but while Hangman now has two kills, Rooster has three. As part of a dual crewed aircraft, he shares the SU-57 victories with Maverick plus he shot down the helicopter.

Gonky has to be a permanent guest on your channel lol. You two are a great pairing and that's rare to find

Yeah, Hangman didn't need a character arc. He was never a bad guy, he's just way overconfident and had a habit of leaving the plane he was watching to go after the kill. In this case he was the perfect guy to fly protection for them because he's almost as good as Maverick in a dogfight situation and it's all 1 v 1 in this situation. He got the kill, saved the 2 guys he felt were his rivals, and got bragging rights. That's exactly how he'd act in that situation with what we know about him from the movie.

M: "He got cocky (...) He wanted the gun kill" G: "Wouldnt you?" M: (instantly) "yes, of course"

One of the most advanced fighter jet but the SU-57 fails to detect a lock from Hangman's missile.

I love when the Su-57 comes around behind them using thrust vectoring. It’s so smooth, but so unnaturally fast.

02:48 - They did indeed not arm the seats. There is a camera shot where you can see the safety still in place on Roosters seat ^^

Mover = "Do you think Maverick is an A&P?" Gonky = "Do you think he cares?" The commentary was Gold throughout this series..... im going to go back and rewatch the whole thing. 👍

A proper ending to that carrier landing, since Mover mentioned 'Hot Shots', would be for Rooster's ejection seat to finally fire, sending him up and over the deck, into the water. Good series, you guys. A little snark is always good for an action movie. Shows an actual respect for the show.

"What was he the spare to, the whole war??" One of your best comments, then you go "What, did he go to AA and find Jesus?" 2 for 2 there, I'm still laughing!

The P-51 at the end is actually owned by Tom Cruise, that was actually him flying it with Jennifer Connelly in the back seat.

7:04 - He reloaded / restocked his AMRAAM's instantaneously in mid-air, like in Ace Combat! Ive really enjoyed this series - thanks Mover & Gonky!

One of my biggest disappointments in the script was the ending on deck, hugged it out. “Thank you for saving my life”, why didn’t they have him reply “Bulls*hit thank you for saving mine”? As for the P51, idk why everyone is getting up in arms over it being an airforce plane in a navy movie. In terms of screen presence it’s definitely more iconic to the general public than a corsair. The cost for those are more unrealistic than him flying one, i’m going with Mav having restored or built a kit version (still pretty expensive tho). Still i think you have to compare the two endings to the two themes of the movies. In the original Mav is going off to continue his career flying with the best. In this sequel he’s basically now retired and he finally gets the family that he avoided when he was flying for the navy. Just like the first movie it’s showing the next step in his life, flying off into the sunset. I think it makes perfect sense, even music wise. In a sense he’s no longer Maverick, he’s become just Pete Mitchell again…

Hangman is actually also carrying 105mm Howitzer for ground support, you just didn't see it

Spare to the whole war had me dying 😂😂

I watched Clint Eastwood in “Firefox” the other day. The whole time I wondered what Mover & Gonky would have to say about that one! It is a fictional plane, but could still be interesting.

I like how the last thing on Gonky’s mind is plugging his channel. He just wants to fly jets and listen to danger zone 😂

Thanks for doing this guys…. Felt like we were right there with you, and you didn’t ruin it, we all know it’s a movie and hearing you guys bang around about it was fun. Excellent work 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Great move and great comments guys. Maybe the Darkstar didn't need to be in it, but dang! that is a beautiful fuselage. Some shots were too close, but in the old days, non-active duty friends would sometimes slip in an unauthorized maneuver or two like giving their F-105 leader a surprise "Hot Nose" rejoin. Lead calls for a straight-ahead join off the range and is head down busy getting the clearance while his wingman, at 550K, would come under him and pull up while lighting the hard light afterburner so lead would have a face full of jet and a hard light afterburner explosion. It would shake the canopy and knock your feet off the rudder peddles. What a thrill! A training rule might have been bent but I think the only danger was giving the leader a heart attack. There was no chapter in the rule book about doing or not doing a Hot Nose Rejoin. I can't find any demonstrations on the internet so it will just have to be a memory. It was not uncommon to get the wing rock to join the flight of four into fingertip during RTB from the range and do barrel roll descents from cruise altitude down to initial. My first time flying this I was four and a brown bar, I was so excited and laughed so hard throughout the rolls. I couldn't believe we were doing it, but it was safe, just upside down. I tried it with a flight of two while on active duty and the wingman had a fit. We sometimes did a low-level to the range and did a popup to HADB in the F-16. I was surprised that it was almost like Maverick's attack sans the mountains. It surprised the range officer. Under certain circumstances, it might be a viable tactic. One of the founders of air combat said, "Flexibility is the key to Air Power." After we retired, my SQ/CC said in his day it was not uncommon to fly under bridges in his F-84. I bet there are plenty of stories out there where the pilots have done some pretty exciting things like in the movie or very close to it. There were lots of flybys done over girlfriend's or family member's houses. Some didn't turn out so well, unfortunately. None of it is permitted these days. None of it was "permitted" in those days either. They weren't very tactical, but they sure were fun and it did teach you to think so in a way they were tactical. I am about to watch my copy of Maverick for the seventh time. It does keep getting better. We all wish we could do it again. I have heard some stories from the old days by Navy pilots about landing from the back side of a loop or Immelmen. I had never seen it before, but it sure sounded interesting. I don't know the copyright rules and I never notice links on KZfaq and I can't read the copyright so the credit to them. If you search for this subject. INCREDIBLE Landing Maneuver With The Rafale! There is a good chance you will find a very short video of a Rafale flying an Immelman to a landing, a beautiful stunt. It would be a typical Maverick maneuver. Maybe it will show up in TOPGUN 3. Maybe you two guys will get a chance for another fini flight and you could end it this way and in fingertip.

Great series Mover! I really appreciate all the aggravation you went through to get these out. Keep up the great work! And Gonky, it was good to see ya again!

Thank you Mover and Gonky for taking the time to give us some great insight on the movies. I for one appreciate getting insight on some of the things that we all think are cool or possible but are actually have different outcomes than what the movies would should. Can't wait to see your next video that you do.

Really do appreciate listening to you and Gonky's takes on this sort of thing. hope to see more of it

Mover & Gonky: all I can say is thank you for this series. It’s one of the best series on KZfaq!

Still the most awesome film released in almost two decades.

Thanks for this awesome little series Mover and Gonky. Loved every minute of hearing you guys talk about this.

These breakdowns were great to see the differences b/w the film and real life. Really cool what you guys do

When you binge most of the series, but then discover the last episode isn't out

The entire series was HIGHLY entertaining and makes me enjoy the movie even more. Kudos.

Thanks for the breakdown and the reactions guys. It was a fun ride.

Thank you Mover and Gonky for the awesome series of videos!

It broke me when Mover said, "What was he the spare to? The whole war?!" 🤣🤣🤣

After the talk about the AMRAAMs there was a shot showing the cheek rail with one missing. Great attention to detail!

I loved the whole running commentary. Thanks for making this. I always wanted to know what actual fighter jet pilots thought of it.

thank you for putting these videos togethervand educating us! fun to see real fighter pilot comments!

Salute to mav and hangman for destroying the only 3 operational su 57’s

When you guys were talking about Maverick's home/hanger, I could almost hear Chris Farley saying, "the next thing you know, you are living in a hanger down at the airport!"

Thanks guys for an excellent review. I watched the movie mostly for entertainment and thoroughly enjoyed it. At the same time, I also enjoyed watching you and Gonky discuss the movie so I could learn more about what they got right and what was, let's say a bit of a stretch. Thanks for the commentary. Thoroughly enjoyed it!

Thank you, guys. Watched your whole series, and enjoyed all of your input.

Loved watching your critique. Thanks for sharing your expertise and humor. I would really like to see you interview the technical advisors on the film. It would be very entertaining to hear the internal give and take between the director/screenwriter and the technical advisors. The sad part is a lot of what you pointed out would be easy to fix without much effort or impact to the plot.

Absolutely loved this series, I'm with everyone else asking for more vids with Gonky if you're both interested!

Just watched the whole series and I enjoyed it immensely. I learned alot but mostly I enjoyed your humor and honesty! Thanks for a enjoyable evening!

Thoroughly enjoyed hearing from you guys on this. Well done.

I have been watch your channel for years now and really enjoy it especially with "Gonky". You two have live what every young boy and most men and yes some women dream about. You two went the miles, did the hard work never giving up to fly for the military. Mover, you being in a bad place makes me sad with all that you have a done. I'm sitting here with CHF (search the medical meaning) a Bovine aortic valve and wires attached in my heart . I'm never in a bad place, just happy to be here watching videos like yours that I truly enjoy. Keep up your videos with Gonky, bringing to people like me to enjoy and maybe your videos will reach some younger views to follow your path. God bless you and yours Gonky and his family

Gonky’s right! If you pause at 7:47 you’ll see that one of the AMRAAM’s on the fuselage is missing!

Gonky, Mover, you guys are awesome and I'm so glad I found this, it's really great to get your perspective on these films!! God bless you, thank you for your service!!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

great series of videos guys. thoroughly enjoyed both your take on the film and its details. nice one!

I don't really understand the complaints about the Mustang not being a Navy aircraft. Would a retired Navy pilot really turn up their nose at any WWII aircraft that wasn't Navy? Besides, privately owned F4U Corsairs and F6F Hellcats are far more rare than P-51s, and are probably even more expensive to buy.

As the mission went more and more wrong, they just kept adding weapons to Hangman’s jet.

Absolutely love seeing how this review playlist, honestly makes me want to rewatch that movie all over again.

Anyone else notice the sun in different positions during Mav’s landing? When it shows Rooster it’s behind, when is Mav’s POV it’s in front - behind the superstructure, when they touch it’s to the the left of the tomcat, when they finally grind to a halt, it’s behind again… Side note, loved these video. Thanks Mover and Gonky!

I’ve noticed that in everything where there’s a character named “Admiral Cain” the person has been a total tool, psycho or somehow an antagonist. But the one that takes the cake for me is Admiral Helena Cain from BSG played by Michelle Forbes, Ed Harris takes a very close #2 spot behind her IMO 😂

Like you said people just need to look at this movie as entertainment. It's not supposed to be a documentary so they can do whatever they want to the plot. As a summer fun movie, I think they did an excellent job to dumb it down enough for the regular people to follow the technical stuff without making us feel stupid. I would like to see another one soon instead of waiting all my life (born in May of 86).

Wonderful, thank you for this series!

Loved the whole series ! Great commentary :)

7:45 Looks like Gonky actually was right about the cheek mount- there's an AMRAAM on the right intake but missing on the left. So yes, we are meant to believe that they scrambled Hangman off the deck to go fight in a Rhino with three bags, two Paveways, two Sidewinders, six AMRAAMs, and an invisible ATFLIR. Yeehaw cowboy.

🤣 Rooster knows how to expertly and quickly start a huffer, preflight the F-14, and knows how to get into a jet which was probably retired before he joined the Navy (last flight 2006) but forgets to pull the pins and arm his ejection seat. FAIL Lol. 😂 the P-51 tax break comment was epic! Love you guys! Keep roasting movies ~ WAK

I love how Gonky just smile and prepare whenever Mover paused the clip 😂. LOVING IT HAHA

A lot of fun and ofc learning, listening to these real-life professionals. Thank you for uploading guys.

Man, that was a fun series. Thanks guys. I personally like the beginning and especially the end. But that's just personal taste. Most entertaining movie I've seen in at least 10 years. Probably since Captain America: Winter Soldier. And I think the crew of the ship hated H_ngm_n so much they overloaded him hoping he'd go into the drink on take off. 🤣

A mix of awesome review and absolute roast of the “realism” in this dogfight is going to be so entertaining! I loved the final dogfight and it will probably go down as one of Tom Cruise’s best action scenes. It’s just not that realistic sadly.

1:01 We (the UK) had a female Apache pilot whose nickname was "Winchester". She was an absolute fucking Terminator who'd have a go at anything that moved if she had so much as a single round left. If she came to my house, the fish'd stop swimming. The amount of times she came back from ops with that word floating over the airwaves....

Great conclusion to the series gentlemen. Thank you!

cant wait!

2:13 Mover: he got cocky, wanted the gun kill to tell his little buddies" Gonky: Wouldn't you?!?! Mover: (without hesitation) Yes of course. 🤣🤣🤣

Guys , you both haven't ruined the movie but made it even better with all your knowledges put onto the table and made it so smoothly, so casually, so professionally . Nothing else but pure respect and your chemistry is outstanding. Thank you for the videos and they are definitely gold. Prolly the best movie analysis I've watched in recent years. Cheers for TOMCATS !

I had so much fun watching this series. It's the nuts.. I was a TomCat fan as a kid and a navy brat (still have some trinkets and patches from the Kitty Hawk from VFA-213 and my tiger cruise) . Variable geometry apparently was in my future when I enlisted in the AF (yes dad approved) and became an F-111 maintainer and then AF ATC after they retired the airframe. It brings me back to the days of watching movies in the dayroom or with my dad, pointing out the finer details that were "conjecture" for the sake of good entertainment. But at the end of the day was entertaining. Cheers to you two for sharing.. Cleared off, monitor guard and report back up. JV - JohnnyVector

There's a front profile shot of Hangman's jet with the gear down for like 1 second. The left fuselage pylon 7 is actually missing an AMRAMM.

Yeah, Hangman's character development was something TGM brushed over, though I'm sure people can connect the dots based on what the movie showed.

Thank you, Guys! I really enjoyed this MRM TGM saga and the takes.

I finally saw the dang movie and it allowed me to watch this series on your channel. I am not sure what was more exciting, the movie or the reaction of stuff I will never get to do. Well done. Now I need to buy a Tamiya P-51 kit to build.

Paramount blocks Mover video but leaves up the hordes of videos literally showing the entire scene 🤦🏾‍♂️

Always great to hear experts let us know what the film makers got right and what they got wrong, and still enjoy the movie. Next time, do Hotshots ;)

I really enjoyed the videos. You guys are really great to listen to. Thanks for making them.

FINALLY thank you, Mover and Gronky.

They really should have put Anthony Edwards in the credits. I realize there's probably some rule why they couldn't. Also I totally did not say "TOMCATS!" (quietly) in the theater.

"Did they not arm the seat?!" This seems most likely to me.

Good to watch as always . Good stuff Mover an Gonky

Loved the reaction with you two

So the reason why Hangman's Hornet in this looks so weird is because apparently they used a legacy Hornet for that shot and photoshopped a Superhornet on it. Did you guys notice how the two fuel tanks looked like they were mounted on the cheek stations and weren't even held by pylons. They were just part of the wing and the engine air intake at the same time

What comes first TG3 or Gonky's next youtube video?

Ur videos are super amazing man, I love it, and funny too

gotta love these real pilots reaction. gave us a bit of what the real deal would have been. thank you !

MFW... when the DVD commentary with people who weren't even in the movie is better than the movie... Great series Moover, if only paramount had the sense to consult with you guys during the editing phase of production...and stayed out of your hair while you promoted it for free in the aviation enthusiast community! keep making em we'll keep watching em.

I consider the movie “Stealth” a sequel to Maveric. His worst nightmare came true…..unmanned fighter jets. And the pilots were from the navy too 😂 “EDI is the whole idea!”

As a filmmaker, always thanks to all people working on the real field, especially who point out many 'real' and 'unreal' things to us. Sometimes we sacrifice some things to make it more narrative, but we will not forget anything because basically we want to make things 'realistic'.

Best MRM yet; Thanks Mover/Gonky!

The part that annoys me the most is that the movie implies Pete and Penny have had "on and off" flings before. Penny makes a point of this, and tells Pete not to even try this time. Then we get character development, they inevitably get back together, and Pete promises Penny he will *never leave her again*. Their relationship blossoms. The finale happens, Pete goes to visit Penny after the mission. She's gone sailing. So he sticks around until she gets back, right? It's only a day or so... Haha, nope! Ain't no one got time for that, that Mustang won't fix itself. He just abandons her again without saying a word and heads back to the desert. Only reason we got a happy ending is because Penny went after him

My take on Hangman (FWIW) I didn’t really pick up on this until the third or 4th time watching. With an air to air kill, he’s a true air to air combat vet. So he suffers no fools, especially over egoed hot shots that did well in training, maybe dropped bombs but probably haven’t seen SAMs or enemy air threat. So they haven’t seen the monster like him. He wants to be team lead because he freaking wants to come home. Of course there are reindeer games and posturing and some cringe dialogue, but at the base is that Hangman has zero confidence in his teammates because they have no idea what they are into. That’s why he can be so bold to a kooky old has been O6 with a 4 star buddy. He knows lives are on the line for real and DGAF. Blood >career. but three key events: complete his arc. 1. Mav does the practice bomb run mission. Hangman is like - ok this guy is for real, and still has IT. 2. He meets up with rooster just before launch and says “give ‘em hell” .? Acknowledging We aren’t in the locker room anymore, we are on the same field, same team. He is totally thrilled when they hit the target. Reminds me of Similar scene in Glory between two rival units when the one pulled the tough job of leading the assault. We go at each other in training, but when the bullets fly, I am your 6. 3. He launches and smokes the Felon, and while he has fun with it, he doesn’t rub it in. Am I projecting onto him a bit as a combat vet, probably. But When the training calendar is replaced by a two way live fire, bullshit walks. I learned this as a cherry 2LT trying to lead a platoon of returning Mogadishu vets, and I saw it as an O4 with time in country taking new arrivals on adventures in Iraq, including an O6. Bottom line, hangman earned the right to be a dick but when shit got real, he was the best pilot and teammate you could hope for. I really liked that character.

Hey Mover, Gonky. My 7 year old son Owen knows and talks about the 2 of you and loves your videos, we enjoyed this very much, thank you

"See, he got cocky. He wanted the guns kill, wanted to tell his little buddies when he got back..." "Well wouldn't you?" "...yes..." Love you both so much for the back and forth.

I agree with mover, they should have had two Hornets flying off into the sunset as the ending.

7 days. Release it now damitt.

Thank you Gonk for holding the horns up hight 🤘

Thanks for the insight. Added a different dimension to the movie; just watched it a few days ago. Was 16 when Top Gun came out, and the movie, the soundtrack, so 80's. TBH the movie that stuck with me all these years, being a sci-fi fan was The Final Countdown with Kirk Douglas and Martin Sheen... was 10 when that came out and the scene with the F14's playing with the WWII Zeros really stuck with me.