Fathers were thrown out of the family hierarchy. I'm 60 and saw my mother disrespecting my father's authority. In many ways he just ceded it. You can't go to war over everything. She took to all the most extreme imagined injuries feminism had invented like a duck takes to water. Then in the late 1980s or early 1990s I noticed that everything had changed in my extended family. The women had taken total control and there was no more fun or playfulness. It was all about being hurt or offended. Eventually about a decade after the youngest child moved out dad packed up all his stuff and left. To my complete amazement he went from being the worlds biggest hard ass to being a really good guy. He had lots of friends and girlfriends and was elected to town council. He was the only one that voted against paying 96 cents a kwh at 20 year contracts for wind generated electricity (electricity was 5 cents a kwh at the time). He died about 16 years ago but he'd be rolling in his grave if he saw the world today. Covid never would have happened if it weren't for 96% of the population making a cynical calculation to take the easy route and side with the moronic majority. Married men are ruled by their wives today. I have nothing to do with either of my long term married brothers. A lot of what feminism and DEI and all the rest of it wanted is completely reasonable. We kind of brought it on ourselves by making insensitive jokes all the time or at the other extreme, being extremely physically abusive. The stories you hear about alcoholic husbands in the 1950s will set your hair on fire. I don't see how we'll ever work our way back to being a viable society. I give it 30 years before the power goes out and never comes back on again. Then it will be like The Road. The end of civilization.

That’s absolutely embarrassing!

Parents teaching ethics, including a work ethic has been abdicate to the “educational industrial complex” which doesn’t care to do something they find discriminatory.

Would this be contributed to Gen Z not having the initiative to hunt and chase a job for themselves, and leaving it up to the parents? Can Gen Z deal with the rejection of an unsuccessful application? As for the parents? What parents? The system has incentivized and rewarded single mothers, while fathers are either financially bled dry by the courts, or aren't granted the necessary opportunity to be a parent. 80% of all divorces are initiated by women, as there is more than one safety net for them. So not all the blame can be placed squarely on the shoulders of parents. What we are seeing is the fruit born from a society which has taken the hunting and chasing instinct of a male influence out of the equation.

@@bunsw2070 60, so born roughly 1960. " The stories you hear about alcoholic husbands in the 1950s will set your hair on fire." "Then in the late 1980s or early 1990s I noticed that everything had changed in my extended family" Can you see the cause and effect in play here? How "The women had taken total control and there was no more fun or playfulness." stems directly from "We kind of brought it on ourselves by making insensitive jokes all the time or at the other extreme, being extremely physically abusive" ? A lot of people aren't happy with their lives, but doomsaying and blaming half the population is not the correct move. You need to stop operating at surface level. Introspect, understand your prejudices, and maybe you can go " from being the worlds biggest hard ass to being a really good guy."

Totally. People who are generally, respectful and competent can rise up quickly. Especially if you are a non white male

"you already have an advantage over 80% of the people your age" Spreading this mentality is why it's more difficult than it shoudl be and people will keep saying " I think it's always been like that."

My experience with Gen Z workers is that they generally fall into two categories: 1. Wonderful 2. Awful. We don't hear enough about the wonderful ones!

I remember that being a double edged sword when I started out 30 years ago. If 80% of the people were not terribly hard workers and not terribly reliable, and you were, then suddenly you were responsible for getting things done. You were crucial. Did you get paid more? No. You just had to work your ass off until you found something better, and hope you'd get a recommendation for your next job (instead of a current employer who was pissed you were leaving and reluctant to tell the truth about your work ethic and dependability, and since most job seekers weren't hard workers or dependable, prospective new employers would pick up on the reluctance and take a pass; often you had to rely on solid interviewing skills to overcome that).

@@samuraichicken2315exactly. I hate being a Gen Z adult because people will always indirectly say “all Gen Z kids are the same negative stereotype.” It’s nice to hear someone who doesn’t prejudge me for my generation.

well said and very on the mark....

Gen Z ? The man of today: a face mask and a cellphone. Gen Z aren't doing anything. I see them all the time looking down at their cellphone as if they are doing something. I don't have conversations with these people. Because, how do speak to someone who is already engaged with a cellphone ?

Yes, no older generation has ever before complained that a younger generation is lost, or pointed out their faults. The ones before yours definitely never said it about your generation, they praised you and were certain you were going to make the world a better place. They were right too, because you are definitely not an ignorant old fool doing exactly what every generation has done since Adam and Eve.

@@philsurtees No generation in history has been impacted by something like social media before. Studies are showing mental illness are up as well as narcist traits. While all generations complain backward, I suspect at times in history including now they might of be correct.

They spoke about interns, I bet that's a non-paid position now is it not? You get exactly what you pay for then. Why would anyone younger than 40 still fall for that bushtit scam? Bunch of fucking boomers thinking young people should by default give a shit about their offers just because things were even worse during their times. That's some proper entitlement. Thinking interns owe you anything. You either hire employees, or you can go hire people who don't need the money, which are rich kids....and then they complain they are too entitled. Hilarious

They'll just stand out all the more among their peers

They will push through and look like genius someday.

It's very true. I used to work at a Lego store and they don't pay by merit. Everyone was paid the same. I was twice the age of a Gen Z employee who would abandon his tasks when feeling overwhelmed. He wouldn't tell anyone, he would just leave. When I stopped working at the Lego store, other employees were upset that I would no longer be working with them. They knew that I got along with other employees and did the work.

True

It is even worse than you say. The last two companies I worked for had such strong DEI requirements that Most males and especially white males eventually quit as they realized that they could never get a promotion no matter what, However they were expected to do the work for and pick up the slack for the affirmative action people who were promoted over them with no experience.

While you are in a job, do your job well. Even if you will quit tomorrow.

I agree, companies can steal your pensions and benefits. Workers have no protection. I can't blame Gen-Z for having no loyalty. My mindset has changed, I take more vacation days now and I do my job but I don't go the extra mile and I don't want overtime anymore. No point in driving yourself into the ground for a job.

Yups, society is so screwed with this generation..god help us.

There you go.

I’m a little older but similar experience. When I graduated with a PhD in chemistry no one would even look at my application it felt like. I was willing to work for minimum wage or even below it just to get my foot in the door.

It's a kind of self-feeding vicious cycle. Gen Z are written off as lazy and idle and sheltered, but compared to what? 20, 30 years ago? For a lot of them, the work and the jobs simply aren't there any more. The workplace is shrinking. There are fewer jobs, rate of pay can't come close to keeping up with the cost of living, honestly sometimes I don't even blame these kids for their screwed mindsets, there's no future for a lot of them.

Here's a tip from GenXer to you: if your application does not get a responce they are not interested/found someone/the position was not real in the first place

@@ninjagirl226if you outshine the people recruiting you many won’t interview you. I think probably less then 20% of people can actually do their jobs well so if your CV, experience and qualifications are exceptional then it might be tough if you’re going for a mid level job. Crazy as it sounds it is sometimes better to dumb down.

@@ninjagirl226The key for PhD graduates is to build network before you graduate so you have a job even before that.

It's the Gen X and the late Boomers, and maybe some early Millenials (40-70) who are holding the country together.

I think over 40 is a little bit of a stretch. 35 is probably more accurate , but I agree with your point. Gen Z live in a fictional world. Older millennials and beyond are the ones keeping things afloat. Gen Z thinks they’re pioneers, they’re just making more work for everyone else.

​@@1Gr8Editrixah yes the sell out generations who allowed Government to be what it is today

like other Gen X'ers, I raised myself. Can trust myself.

@@TKFKU Was a latch key kid when I was in first grade. When I was in 4th or 5th grade one of my Christmas presents was an alarm clock so I could get myself ready for school everyday. About the same time I started doing all my laundry. Man times have changed.

Next time this happens, Boss: "I feel like firing you today."

The problem is that the boss is now left one worker short, and has to scramble to find a replacement worker on very short notice. All because a Gen Z'er wasn't "feeling it" that day.

employees ; I dont feel like working fro free , I dont feel like working today since you own me money , I dont feel like coming in right now because am entitled BY LAW of a 8 hours rest period , GenZ got a bad wrap for sure but dont be bootlickers assuming that all employers are themselves ; one time , respectful and especially reliable and that follow threw with what they promise

@@sum1337 I agree completely. I've worked in places where the entire workplace culture was toxic and as an inexperienced worker I felt I had no choice but to take it. But the difference now is that the students coming out of education have been pandered to their entire lives and expect their employers to do the same.

The mental health thing is people not being in a good mood. It used to be called 'being human'. Now it's a mental health crisis.

Do you mean hired ? Or adopted ?

@@AverageJoe483yes.

You know what the problem is. It isn't just Gen Z It is a white woman problem no matter what the age I stopped talking to my 40-year-old cousin because I made a joke and she sent me a big lecture about how she was triggered and she has to set boundaries and all that BS. We flipping grew up together. If anything, I'm more mellow and less offensive today than I ever was. She said we can't talk if that's how I'm going to be and I told her I don't want to f****** talk to her because I thought she was an adult

@@LN-LiferGood for you. Honestly. That sorta behavior is simply unacceptable. They don’t have the authority to talk to someone like that, especially if they’re so sensitive themselves. As far as “setting boundaries” goes, you’re doing it right.

Easier to parent when you don't punish, but use reward-tactics. Or promises (sometimes kept). Or even bribe with money. That way, the parent can be lazy while still having offspring.

Jodie is actually right

I starting to think every generation gets hated on. I felt the same as a millennial who was embarrassed by the majority.

​@@nicoleackerman205this is worse..

Very true

@@darianstarfrog LOADS WORSE. Stupidity is unbiased but all generations have assholes, criminals, traitors. REGARDLESS OF THE SUPERFICIAL SHIT.

OMG not answering your gd text is horrible and rude. I know your phone is in your hand bc i just text you. Who tf do you think you are ?

Most American based corporations have horrific levels of disrespect and even antipathy for their employees and will try to thin them out except for the ones they need for their DEI quotas.

I'm 37yo. Yeah, similar, common problem: the lack of leadership and follow-through of older people. I've had so many bosses not follow through on promises, nor display any leadership towards important directions. More problematic still: they unknowingly lie. They say stuff will get done, instead of just being real: "this will never get any better". In my experience, half the burn out comes from raising expectations to the level of the eventually-broken-promise. Having had that from my personal experience, I think another problem is outside the employer's direct control -> god awful family life. Dating is catastrophic for many people currently, so don't expect a young man to be in perfect working condition, if he's seeing the bleakness of life overall. When I was in my early 20s, more than half the girls in my circle were wh*rish, and I was lost just wanting a meaningful job and a good girlfriend. But the lack of proper women in my surrounding sent me spiraling down at work. If my own experience isn't a lottery-ticket kind of outlier, then hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of gen-Z men are undergoing similar situations. I'd bet stable workers tend to be stable as a result of at-home responsibility and duty.

I agree on your statement about not knowing the difference between reasonable expectations and being taken advantage of.

Exactly, I wish that I had my dream job, but I don't like most people. I take vacation time every year and I'm not going to drive myself into the ground for a job. Also, workers have no protection, companies can steal your benefits and pension away.

Sounds like Genz bullshit right there. Once your parents kick you, Life is gonna eat your Bohemian attitude up, honey

The previous generations usually asked because they wanted to know the reason behind something. The past couple ask because they want to know if there's any reason they can't do it however the heck they want to do it - or to get out of it entirely. It's not the act of asking questions. It's the obvious motives behind them.

They question everything but their indoctrination and own assumptions.

At my last job I was showing up 15-20 minutes early. I was told to start coming in much later because I was costing the company too much money.

I'm not Gen-Z and I'm not coming in early. I don't agree with laziness, but workers have been getting f@@@ed and we have no protection.

If I’m not early, I’m late. And just because you show up on time and then spend half an hour, drinking coffee and chatting with your buddies doesn’t mean you’re on time either

Exactly, I find it funny how all these middle-aged people in the comment section are trying to rewrite history and pretend like they were working 18 hours a day with no water or food. I didn't take work seriously at 22 and would call out to go to concert or a game.

@@EddieHenderson92 yeah me too. I was giving minimum effort to my minimum wage job, just like most people in their twenties.

@@Mr_Case_Time Budget for the minimum, so that when employers fire you they have nothing to threaten you with. That is how I manage my life. The never ending line of shit employers have nothing to threaten me with, so I don't have to go along with any unethical bullshit threat pieces of shit try as intimidation.

We can see why it took you so long to get that degree, rtd.

I had always gotten to work at least 30 minutes early. That way I could have a coffee, relax, read the paper, check my emails, and ease into work without ever being late. Two new people in charge of management put a stop to that. One was a Boomer. The other was a Gen Z. It was obvious that one stopped caring, and the other didn't want to care. I found out from other employees that they thought I was making them look bad. I could never understand how sitting on my ass, drinking coffee and reading the paper and to be ready at the drop of a hat could make them look bad?

@@PhantomFilmAustralia - Exactly the reasons I go in that early also, to ease into beginning the day. Unfortunately this isn't the first time I've heard a story about management thinking that they're being made to look bad because someone else is coming in earlier than them and putting or trying to put a stop to it, and that's a reflection of those managers own insecurities which shows their weakness.

Everyone who's ever told me this has always been late 😂

I remember my parents always getting me to band practices late when in high school. So I adjusted and always told them I needed to be somewhere 30 to 60 minutes beforehand. To this day, I can't stand it when people have no concept of timeliness.

unpaid labor time is thief , so on time is on time not 15 min before ! 15 min x 5 = 1h15 of wage thief per week x 52 weeks = quite an hefty sum of money per year

Thats such bs. On time is on time. Time outside of work hours is my time, anyone's personal time. I don't owe my life and time to a faceless corporation that doesn't give a wit about me and could lay me off at the drop of a hat.

Minimum wage, minimum effort.

Look. You're not gonna make the same as someone who's been in the industry for 2 decades. You gotta start from the bottom and work up

She works hard, turns out great work, isn't obnoxious or annoying, and doesn't crop dust her politics. She deserves the A list more than most of her peers, IMO.

I love her because she focuses on her craft, not on attention seeking.

@@hummingbirdofgumption3263I wish True Detective 4 had been better. I had higher expectations. It's entirely possible that she's kind of horrible at choosing her projects. She's certainly not alone in that. After all, how much bigger do we think someone like Idris Elba should be right now? Not that TD4 was a bad one in and of itself. She can only do what she can do, given what she's handed.

Get on your knees, swallow every drop he gives you, and ask daddy for more. Bet your dad didn't have a gag reflex left after 60 years.

I never worked at a video store, but it was my babysitter when I was a kid. My mother would call the store and ask the clerk to send me home for dinner. 😂😂😂

@@PhantomFilmAustralia We had many of you guys. My video store had a game store inside it and we definitely had the regular neighborhood kids frequently there, they were just playing the free to demo consoles all day long or stopping by to watch the movies we had on during the shifts. Hahaha So much smash bros and street fighter was played during this time period.

@@PolecatsRock There weren't any games at the store that looked after me, though I did recommend movies to family and friends on what was good. so, the store actually made a profit from my freeloading! 😂

@@PhantomFilmAustralia haha that is amazing, yeah our store probably didn’t benefit from a free marketing campaign. 😂😂😂

Yeah, jobs that involve the general public are usually a pain. A large percentage of people are just imbeciles.

How many of those people that you just mentioned take their parents to their job interview?

@@THOMMGB No idea but taking a small amount of behavior from any generation to label them all is unfair. It would be like me saying every man in the 1950's beat his wife if she didn't have dinner on the table on time.

@@THOMMGB Actually, it's the PARENTS taking the kids to the job interviews. Probably rousting them out of bed, "Kaighden, Kaighden, it's time for workiepoo!"

Somehow, I doubt that their misinformed opinions are going to do anything but make things worse,- though nfn, - there is no shortage of fools of all ages.

There are always exceptions, and maybe you just got lucky twice.Or maybe you manage to foster a rare environment particular to the field or practice.Too small a sample to make much of a case either way. But I've done okay over a lifetime of finding such exceptions; some seem better at attracting them than most.

You need to clone them.

Yes apparently some suffer from "Time Blindness". I get that people with ADHD have this to an extent but there are multiple coping mechanisms called alarms and clocks to keep you on track.

Your generation raised Gen Z. Nuff said.

@@spookrockcityI disagree. It’s the school system that tells them can be victims. My daughter is Gen Z and apparently I’m cruel for installing good values in her.

well those jobs now in days are given to illegal aliens so its hard to find decent work, try having a little empathy.

@@spookrockcityMostly older millennials. GenX ends in 1980 so the majority of GenX already had kids in the 90s

@@di3486 That is false, Do the math, Gen-Z is 1997-2012, most of them have Gen-X parents and Gen-Alpha has millennial parents.

Fast forward and now we have generations that really just aren't into the work thing.

Old people complaining about younger people. What a novelty concept now is it not?

You ain’t first, you’re last. Ricky Bobby

@skaetur1 the same as you aren't dumb, but you are smart? Lmao