Filtamp Module 1006 Review - Behringer 2500 series

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3 жыл бұрын

Getting to grips with the Behringer Filtamp 1006 based upon the ARP 2500 module and designed by Rob Keeble of AMSynths. I'll take you through the features and give you a load of sound examples so you can judge for yourself if it sounds authentic. Please forgive the reverb overdose.
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@vinylarchaeologist 3 жыл бұрын

Very lovely demo. Tasteful amount of reverb, nice one!

@mauriciomandara5946 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely sequences/tones...great job !

@acefstripe 2 жыл бұрын

Great demo of both modules.. definitely helping me wrap my head around the possibilities.

@cosmicdrone5270 Жыл бұрын

That filter/vca with that envelope sounds lovely! Gotta give Behringer props for the pricing and making it available for everyone to get into modular. Awesome job Molten Music on the music and presentation!

@buyukberber 3 жыл бұрын

Great opening "pitch"! I do appreciate the detailed thought you seem to have put into that. I still don't feel I have the stomach to pay the B brand. I do respect Rob a lot for sure though. Thanks for the vid!

@madmikedynamite6083 3 жыл бұрын

Gee this is such a nice sounding filter :) Thanks for this video. Not much out about these modules yet.

@ogasi1798 3 жыл бұрын

#behringer killed it with these, and what amazing value - such a sweet setup

@wildaudiosociety 3 жыл бұрын

Pairs well with a MI plaits, both outputs into the filter, then feed key tacking a complex lfo. FAB! I luv this filter, at any price it is my favourite, atm.

@ogasi1798 3 жыл бұрын

the range is wicked i think :-) nice one #behringer

@peteroloffransson1370 3 жыл бұрын

Have a few 55 modules in my system. Can be used in combination with other stuff as well without the S-trig dilemma, just as these modules. Anyway... Great in depth review again, as always! Much appreciated. And one can recon the sounds shown here from early Kraftwerk (ARP Odyssey though), but also the Faust sound from the early 70's, as they used the ARP 2500.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Of course they can. I think my point is more along the lines that these aren't just clones of modules converted to Eurorack but designed to take advantage of the Eurorack format - at least that's my take on it :D

@jacobbrown1690 3 жыл бұрын

sounds great i am buying one now

@soundunitz 5 ай бұрын

Just started getting a few from this series. Multi mode filter is cool.

@IanWaugh 3 жыл бұрын

I bought one of these a few weeks ago to make up the cost of something esle to get free delivery :-) It was cheap and looks cool. Didn't know how to get the best from it so many thanks for the vid. and super-useful info.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one!

@keythinwatford7153 3 жыл бұрын

And just when I thought I would go to bed, this appears.

@Cpt.PlunderPants 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@saren6538 3 жыл бұрын

same

@wvo2m 3 жыл бұрын

Same!

@Stremklad 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice review. I saw you holding the 1016 module early in the review. Wondered if you gave it a try. Pink noise has some odd behaviour while ajusting it's tune pot.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

I haven’t plugged it in yet

@richardtrussell8220 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely sounding filter. I like the reverb OD. Looking to buy a good ER reverb, what do you use please?

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Erica Pico DSP - not very flashy 😁

@richardtrussell8220 3 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech Sounds good though. Thanks. Your shirts though are flashy 😉

@ogasi1798 3 жыл бұрын

gorgeous

@joythief 3 жыл бұрын

What should I use to rub off the Behringer logo from my modules?

@isweartofuckinggod 3 жыл бұрын

You could get custom panels.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

I used Strypit paint and varnish stripper - but be careful around the patch sockets as it will quickly dissolve the rubber ring around them.

@toysfromthedeep8724 3 жыл бұрын

You can rub it off but it still is a behringer. If you hate that don't buy it

@joythief 3 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech Thanks!

@joythief 3 жыл бұрын

@@toysfromthedeep8724 I could care less what Behringer does as a company. I just hate the way their logo looks.

@NuisanceMan Жыл бұрын

Great shirt!

@moogboy010 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks' for the excellent review!Been debating between this one and the '1047',which sounds' great,also!I have the B- Moog,filter.Have not had a chance to hear it,as I am getting my 'Eurorack' system together.Will mainly be using the B- moog-modules',as well as the B-2500 series'.Best of both worlds',I hope? : )

@lilkiller20 3 жыл бұрын

What did you decide on?

@moogboy010 3 жыл бұрын

@@lilkiller20 I got the 'Filtamp',the 'Modamp' and the '1003 and '1033',Envelope-Generators'! I would get more modules',but they are not available in the States',at this time?Still want the ('1047'-Filter). I also purchased the(#112-Oscillator),as 'Behringer' has not 'remade' the 'original','2500,dual-Oscillator',which I wish they would do a 're-pop' of;If your listening 'Uli'?: )

@livelooper Жыл бұрын

Way the feedback turns into noise at 12:10 is pretty impressive.

@tommyk88888 2 жыл бұрын

How do you think this filter compares to the 1047 multimode filter in terms of sound?

@MoltenMusicTech 2 жыл бұрын

They’re different, I did a video review of both to show you how they sound.

@TimRichardson1984 2 жыл бұрын

What oscillator are you using in these demos? Do you find the filter looses a lot of bass with high resonance?

@MoltenMusicTech 2 жыл бұрын

I'm using an ONA oscillator from Nano and a Make Noise ST0. And yes it's normal to get the signal drop as you increase the resonance. Some filters have compensation for this - the 1006 doesnt.

@TimRichardson1984 2 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech Can you recommend any filter which does not lose bass with resonance?

@MoltenMusicTech 2 жыл бұрын

Well it depends on the sort of filter you're after because they all have their flavour. A 24dB slope will lose more bass than a 12dB filter. So if you look at 2-pole filters like a Moog ladder type then they will reduce the bass less than more aggressive filters. But that drop is part of the nature of filters because you're sucking in more of the frequencies at the edge of the cutoff as you push resonance up and it's all about finding that balance. However, I can recommend the Wavefonix 2140 which has compensation on a switch www.wavefonix.com/product-page/2140-low-pass-filter Or the Grit from British Electronics which doesn't have a compensation switch as such but when you pile on the distortion that bass doesn't go anywhere.

@HalfGodHalfBeast 3 жыл бұрын

gate in is for regular adsr, trig in turns it into ar envelope bypassing decay and sustain, unless a gate is also present in which case it just retrigers the envelope from the start.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

No, it doesn’t do that. It triggers the full envelope when the gate is high and only retriggers once the previous envelope has finished. At least that’s what it’s doing for me.

@HalfGodHalfBeast 3 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech different than the arp2600 then, I assumed they would work the same, my bad, sorry.

@blackrabbitgeorge5845 3 жыл бұрын

just wondering what the orangey case you're using is?

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Reverb - CaseFromLake

@blackrabbitgeorge5845 3 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech cheers-1!

@michaelgmoser7845 2 жыл бұрын

Witch oscillaor you use ? I have the 112

@MoltenMusicTech 2 жыл бұрын

In this video I'm using the nano ONA

@jeanbonnefoy1377 3 жыл бұрын

28:33 Deckard's temptation!🤗👍

@HalfGodHalfBeast 3 жыл бұрын

sounds amost cs-80 like at 28:30 also could definitely hear a close encounters vibe just prior to that.

@seansnyder7744 3 жыл бұрын

I think it was more so the melody as apposed to the tone, but you definitely caught it! good ear

@Cpt.PlunderPants 3 жыл бұрын

I saw this and decided to watch it instead of sleep

@keythinwatford7153 3 жыл бұрын

thats because sleep is so overrated.

@NuisanceMan Жыл бұрын

@@keythinwatford7153 No, being awake is overrated.

@pheotus 3 жыл бұрын

Have been building a clone of the model 15 app from the iPad using Behringer modules. Sadly I need 2 more to have it finished. Sounds amazing tho. Wish Behringer included some kind of instructions.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I find their whole approach to modular quite baffling - why not sell them as systems with patch guides and tutorials?

@pheotus 3 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech at least tho you can get them. Found out yesterday that Behringer has no US distribution. I have had the same modules on order for almost a year.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

I think they've just signed a big deal with Sweetwater who will become the sole US distributer for Behringer so you'll only be able to get them from there.

@pheotus 3 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech do you have an Instagram account?

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

yes, robinv00

@electrichartstrings6706 3 жыл бұрын

Robin, it looks like you found the missing aluminum knob top?

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Nope - that's on the 1003

@electrichartstrings6706 3 жыл бұрын

Ah, I see now, I asked before I got to the end of the review.

@seansnyder7744 2 жыл бұрын

It probably boils down to my lack of imagination and novice status as a modular noodler, but I can't fully understand the envelope modules having only one gate input, but two separate envelopes. Besides maybe having a differences between your amp and filter envelopes, it just seems like a missed opportunity. The series 100 dual envelope has separate gates if I'm not mistaken.

@christophervincent77 2 жыл бұрын

I don't get it either...

@petegleadall5785 3 жыл бұрын

Rob Kemble (not Keeble) @moltenmusictechnology btw. Great sounding filter/vca, great price.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

To quote the AMSynths website "AMSynths is an innovative synthesizer manufacturing company, owned and design led by Rob Keeble." :D

@seanhayes2998 3 жыл бұрын

At 25:00 you sound like it’s going to launch into Led Zeppelin’s no quarter! My order is in...

@synthesizerhome2041 3 жыл бұрын

44:03 there is a scratch protecting foil, which you have to pull off :-) actually it's impossible to make scratches on it

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought I was taking off when I scratched it the first time but no, there’s no film as far as I can tell

@synthesizerhome2041 3 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMusicTech At least on my 1006 I took the foil off from the big knobs, no scratches possible now.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

well, ill check that out

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Ahh once i took a craft knife to it (which seems a little extreme) i was able to get the film off - that is better, thanks.

@cnfuzz 3 жыл бұрын

So a drawback is filter and vca is serial only with one output , would have made more sense if these had their own output

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

So you could bypass the VCA into what... a different VCA?

@johnrichardson3297 3 жыл бұрын

Molten Music Technology.... Skirted the filter sweep copyright ;)

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

So far so good

@HalfGodHalfBeast 3 жыл бұрын

I can't handle the colour coding of the knobs - I'd have to change them around: the blue for kbd in, red cv1 for fltr & amp, yellow for cv2 fltr & amp, and the two green for input lvl 1&2 else they make no sense, but maybe that's only an issue for my ocd.

@HalfGodHalfBeast 3 жыл бұрын

it does sound nice though and knobs can be switched: I swapppeed some around on my neutron to make it more ergonomic.

@Cpt.PlunderPants 3 жыл бұрын

Hello there

@isweartofuckinggod 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I didn't know about Kirn. Completely ruins all Behringer products for me. I don't really care too much about the copying (I know how to vote with my dollar), it's the 1984-esque large scale bullying that makes me want to curl up and cry.

@MoltenMusicTech 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@Andor. 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can’t understand anyone who defends them suing people reporting on them just because “well they make cheep synths!” as if it’s worth limiting freedom of press for a few cheaper synths.

@isweartofuckinggod 3 жыл бұрын

@@Andor. They trademarked his fucking name. That's what I find the most terrifying. That's a level of messed up I didn't even know was possible.

@BlackMan614 3 жыл бұрын

Read Tony Algood's posts on AH on his 'Moog modular clone' teardown where he takes the modules apart to look at the design and components. I won't go into details - I don't want the corporate police coming after me.