But as a tradeoff it became more functional: it is a now a rocket booster, laser cannon, and beam blaster all at once. And don't forget the second set of wings is now an array of homing laser launcher. That thing is ARMED.

@@ajwatcher Don't forget about the arm blades it pulls out.

'm waiting for the emerald and ruby weapon next time

The Third Strains of Bahamut. Bahamut ZERO

Surely Part 3 will be called Reunion, right?

Let's not forget Typhon and Hades. And i do mean ff7 Hades, not the disney Hades

I am really wanted there will be new bahamut ver. With zettaflare hehe

For Bahamut Zero we had an idea of what it could be in Crisis Core FF7 Reunion, with Bahamut Fury and the Hexaflare. Was really epic!

KOTR summon is the most awesome summon in the OG FF7. But the most painful one to loot since I need to breed a golden chocobo. LMAO I'm just wondering how would they let us loot that KOTR materia in part 3. HAHA

KotR probably will be not much different than its version from FF14 maybe better assets but if you curious you got your KotR there

Agreed my favorite summmon of all time . Stunning design and animation . Wish it was more like the original

Agreed

Agreed, the new neo bahamut is very generic. It used to be memorable

You said it!

We all loved Neo’s old intro

its technecially not, but a new variant

@@Ubu90it is literally Neo bahamut, they just changed the name for English

Looks around and remembers ffx14 Alexander o_o

​@@seyumaiayami3536LOL yeah. Those raids when they were new though ouf. Memories.

​@seyumaiayami3536 they are never as big or powerful when on your team don't forget.

The "best" Alexander still was in ff9.

@@TheBall12 he was awesome in that.

Well said.

Me too, but i expected more. I expected the opponent being taken up instead, and the sky open.

@@agung4944It was already long enough on the PS1, but do you realize how long it would’ve taken to put that shit on the PS5?!

@@GlitchanBlack yes, and would be the most satisfiying time in the game

Apparently they dont like it because its not like the original or something, but I personally felt the grit in its power.

The complaints that i see is that he doesn’t pick up a chunk of the map with the enemies on top of it, and then destroys the chunk of land and the enemies on it. Of course that would be extremely difficult to do in this game as here they couldn’t ignore stuff like summoning indoors or in a cave.

Guess they don't know what a "Remake" is.

​@@N..Oyeah it would look silly in remake. people are just whining. it looks great in rebirth

Elevator ride? Dude literally sliced the clouds open just to vaporize the platform they were on. We've seen grenades and super lasers before. Barret's 2nd limit break is just a super laser. The new Bahamut just took the edge out of the attack.

and odin has just one eye

I thought it only had 6?

@@arronbruce5713 in the og ff7, it had 6, but in mythology, odin's horse had 8

​@@Chuckles_the_Jesterwhy so many legs

@@VietPho ask norway

It only would've been perfect it lifted the enemy is the sky

I think the reason they didn’t is due to some technical issues that would arrive trying to do that especially agaisnt certain enemies or on certain terrains.

@@razorblade6219 yup plus it would take more effort and time. I hope when they bring back Bahamut zero to remove his swordfish nose....

@@NerdGeekTalk ???

Yes he is! All 3 of us are! And those guys over there are too!@@NerdGeekTalk

​@@NerdGeekTalk its an op summon, of course we want it

*Yall are falling for the bait* 💀

Gungnir for no sure kill summon attack

He used to😢😢😢😢

does he have rebirth? saw the lance though

​@@Blackheaven1984 I think it's just a 2ATB attack while he is summoned now

Has*

Finally someone said what I was thinking. That high pitch scream and wave can never be forgotten.

Have you seen what's been going on in FFXIV over the course of the last 10 years? If not, I recommend you to check out both of the Leviathan boss fights (The Whorleater and Heritor of The Whorl) and especially the boss fight against Cagnazzo.

@@GrahamChapman Just started it. Ain’t made it that far yet.

​@@acephas3 Ah. I'm really, really sorry for spoiling the existence of those bosses. v__v

Yes that one was always my favorite. Would have looked bad ass maybe leviathan gives the party a boat and goes up the tidal wave and then camera cuts from behind the enemy and all you see is a giant snake screaming with a huge wall of water coming at you.

His old one was like yo come over get on this elevator, I have a gift for you then shoots them to oblivion lmao

Me too

Mee too

same, but at least they took special care to include some elements of the old version, like the sparks of lightning and the ground being shredded

i wish some ppl would quit complaining so damn much... but it looks like no one gets their way :/

EVERYTHING about the original is better

It's not just you. The original has better entrances

@@hotcoldman77 that's just objectively wrong

​@@hotcoldman77 nostalgia blindness is one hell of a disease.

@@Alejojandro Why is it wrong? Can you imagine if the original had Rebirth's graphics? It won't even be a debate. Original clears and it's not even close. Don't be blinded by the shiny new toy

Kinda feel like they all do. I kinda get why they didn't do the way they used to, Maybe it would be too hard to pull a chunk out of the floor and teleport you to a sky environment out of nowhere on modern hardware, but Bahamut Neo was a lot more impactful on OG even if he did have 3 different breath attacks. Calling it now, There is no way in hell that Bahamut Zero will fire a laser at the planet from space in part 3.

@@tatecheddar I think their issue is more the gameplay impact. It wasn't really a problem in the original since it was essentially turn based, but completely taking you out of the battle for a minute in the action combat of the remakes would throw people out of their flow.

wondering what they'll do with knights@@tatecheddar

Tried disaster was disappointing. Especially after being a basic spell in FFXIV.

Auto correct. Tri-Disaster haha.

Wait he doesn’t have it?! I coulda swore I’d seen it. But I gave the summon to Cait Sith & I don’t use cait that much💀

​@FTOSkaze- He plays so differently than everyone else. And by the time he joins you're already so used to the others.

Seems they tried to compromise by adding accessories and ornaments to his horns, back leg heels but I agree the nose ring is like textbook bovinae fashion.

and they change it from Tetra Disaster to Tri-Disaster. They cut off 2 of his disasters....

I remember needing hades to kill desert weapon.

@@Tyrel777 Oh yea, the weapons are going to be in the next game. Can't wait to see their remastered designs lmao

I'm still amazed that Disney's lawyers didn't leap down Square's throats for that Black Cauldron reference. xD

@@GrahamChapman I hope Disney goes bankrupt lmao, they deserve it

how else will we beat emerald weapon :p

It's all about the numbers, comrade. All about the numbers. 😆

I suspect we'll get a few surprise additions too. Maybe a Fenrir for example.

Yeah I was very disappointed by it in honesty. I think people should prepare for disappointment for Bahamut ZERO, KOTR and Supernova too. It's a shame because some of the other less spectacular summons were improved

Mee too

When we summon neo bahamut, he summon he opponent instead.

I mean even if they chose not to do this for every time the summon is called, at least make it a set piece in the battle against the summon (ideally not in VR). Both the Bahamut battle in FF16 and the old Neo and ZERO versions make this look weak

Ikr that’s always been a huge draw to final fantasy for me

It won't be

​@@Invertedzerowhy?

@@andrewboyer7544 All summon sequences have been cut short so far

@Invertedzero cut short? They are not comparable. The og summons were a green materia with a long cinematic. The new ones are an ally that stays and fights for a couple minutes. They finish the fight with a cutscene that's in general fairly short but you interact with them now. It's apples and oranges.

Too bad i wasnt alive when ff7 came out

賛成です。

I mean is over 1/4 of a century ain't that short.

Buhamut zero weaker than neo hahamut? 😅

Now he only revives/heals the party member who summoned him

Gives me Bozja flashbacks...the Hunt for Red Choctober will never leave me.

He is not. He's a Bamf. That final sequence on a good TV and sound system goes so hard. Lifting into the sky was awesome but it doesn't really work in the new combat system.

How many Bahamuts are there?

⁠@@amuroray9115 Well it depends on the series and whether Bahamut is an individual or a species. In the Original FF7 Hojo classed the different Bahamuts as Strains and Rebirth classes them as variants. Bahamut (original) Neo Bahamut (strain) Bahamut Arisen (Variant) Bahamut Fury (Crisis core strain/Variant) Bahamut zero (strain) Bahamut Sin (likely strain from Advent Children)

I should add that Neo Bahamut & Bahamut Arisen are one and the same but could be considered as separate entities and the same applies to Bahamut Zero & Bahamut Fury, they were basically the same summon but with radically different designs to the point where Bahamut Fury seems mechanical in nature and incorporated the moon into his Exa-Flare attack whereas Bahamut Zero seems purely Organic in nature and used Terra Flare

@wind1574 Traditionally speaking, a summon would pull target into its own pocket dimension before utilising its attack to avoid damaging the real world environment, that one detail seems to be the difference between the original and Remake/Rebirth summons… Although I wonder if these Remake/Rebirth summons can be considered the same as their Original counterparts as they were artificially created by Chadley in VR.

@@ravensark17 thanks for the info. 👍

Always gotta be someone Nitpicking

@@NeroCrucible Always gotta be someone shilling.

​@@wind1574 always gotta be someone who's upset others are having fun

@@wind1574 I'm sincerely sick of it. I wish they would find a personality. It's a video that compares artistry/choreography of the Original to the remake... and this loser is mad someone has an opinion. Which he clearly doesn't understand it's something people can have.

@@NeroCrucible Why is it nitpicking? To some people these were elements of the original game they valued and wanted to see emulated or improved on in Remake/Rebirth, and comparing them, I would agree some don't have the same impact or attention to care for the attack sequence. It can clear be done because 1/ The OG did it 2/ The Remake already improved on a few of the OG summons, so why make others less great. 3/ FF16 showcased how epic in scale Summon fights and attacks could become 4/ The constraints confining the move to short time limit is a bad and unnecessary one, that loses the spectacle and ridiculousness of the original sequences (Like Neo raising them up into the air). Could have opted for a FF9 approach of having an initial long sequence then option to use the short form after that. 5/ The argument against them having OTT cinematograph and it needing to being realistic is a weak one given the levels of dramatic attacks and choreography seen in FF16 (arguably a more mature and 'realisitic' setting)

Ruby weapon was a beast. Took me months to kill it.

It's one of the boss themes in the game. (OG theme is still in the game too).

Pretty sure it’s phase 3 of midgardsomr rebirth

@@leoryzap thanks!